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I haven't looked at him at all, but I don't like the idea of another Bush or Clinton in the White House.
But given how wide open the field is, he just might be competitive.
FEBRUARY 7, 2011 4:00 A.M.
Bush 2012
Jeb Bush should run now, for at least eight reasons.
John J. Miller has a cover story in the new issue of National Review that’s a compelling portrait of the accomplishments of Jeb Bush. Four years after leaving the Florida governor’s mansion, he remains one of the most impressive Republican politicians in the country, a formidable policy mind with the political chops to drive conservative reforms even out of office. So why isn’t he running for president? Bush told Miller what he’s said to others, too — he won’t run in 2012, but he’ll consider 2016. This is a mistake. Bush should run now for at least eight reasons:
1) It’s a wide-open field for a nomination that’s worth having. Rarely do you get such a convergence of a beatable incumbent president with a wide-open field to challenge him. Obama is slightly below 50 percent in the polls, with a real weakness in the middle of the country, and he’s saddled with a recovery that has yet to produce substantial job growth. Yet there is no true frontrunner in the race to challenge him. It’s hard to imagine an environment better suited for a heavyweight like Jeb to make a run.
2) 2016 is too late I. By 2016, Jeb will have been out of office ten years. No doubt he will have made many contributions to the cause in the interim, but by then his main credential — his governorship and its accomplishments — will seem like yesterday’s news. Right now he has the feel of an elder statesman of the party while his time in office is still fresh.
3) 2016 is too late II. By 2016, a bumper crop of Republican talent will be poised to storm the national stage. Marco Rubio not only will be the hot new thing out of Florida, he’ll be seasoned. Chris Christie will be ready. A host of senators and governors — freshly minted in the 2010 elections, so it’s too soon for them to run now — will be ready to go. Jeb will not be such a predominant figure in such a robust field. The crop of prospective GOP candidates this time reflects the downdraft in Republican fortunes in 2006 and 2008. Jeb would loom all the larger for it.
4) The Bush rehabilitation has begun. George W. Bush is not exactly popular, but two years of Obama have taken the edge off W.-hatred, and he’s risen from the depths of his unpopularity near the end of his presidency. Gallup had a poll in December that had Bush’s approval rating very slightly above President Obama’s. Bush’s book, Decision Points, and the accompanying media tour were successes. In 2008, Jeb’s association with his brother would have been an absolute killer. That’s not true anymore. The controversies that made the Bush years so venomous have faded, and — partly through the miracle of the accelerated news cycle — 2000–2008 already feels somewhat distant.
5) Jeb will still be a Bush in 2016. There’s no doubt that it will always be awkward for Jeb to be the third Bush; it will always have a dynastic feel about it. But that will remain as true in 2016. If Jeb runs in four years, after Obama presumably wins a second term in 2012, he will still be vying to be the third Republican president in a row who’s a Bush. Waiting until 2016 won’t make that fact any less odd.
6) He’s not just another Bush. Jeb is different from his patrician dad and different from his thoroughly Texan brother. As soon as people see him on the national stage, they’ll realize he’s his own person and has to be taken on his own terms.
7) Jeb can unite the party. Jeb probably has a better chance to unite the establishment and Tea Party wings of the GOP than anyone else, certainly a better chance than Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney would seem to have at this juncture. The establishment would presumably flock to Jeb, while he’d have a record of solid conservative accomplishment to sell to the conservative base. Some tea partiers will have zero interest in another Bush, and Jeb will take his lumps on immigration (at NR, we’ll look forward to administering some of them, and trying to change his mind). It’s a very volatile environment, and were he to run, much would obviously depend on how he actually campaigned. But he would stand a good chance of avoiding a damaging division in the party.
8) Waiting is almost always a mistake. It’s an axiom of presidential politics that you have to run when you have the opening, even if it seems “too soon.” This is why Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were elected president and Mario Cuomo never was. Jeb’s opening is now — “too soon” after his brother’s presidency, “too soon” into his life as an ex-governor — and it will probably never quite be there again.
In short, if Jeb feels a call to run for president, it has to be 2012, not 2016.
— Rich Lowry is editor of National Review.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/print/259099
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Hell no!
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No more Bushes, no more Clintons!
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Jeb would probably whip the shit out of every other 2012 potential.
And he would defeat obama too.
He is extremely smart, well connected, he has insane experience, he knows his shit, he has plenty of resources...
He would win in a cakewalk. People don't hate bush anymore.
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Jeb would probably whip the shit out of every other 2012 potential.
And he would defeat obama too.
He is extremely smart, well connected, he has insane experience, he knows his shit, he has plenty of resources...
He would win in a cakewalk. People don't hate bush anymore.
Doubt it. People still hate Bush and a great deal of Obamas campaign was linking McCain to Bush claiming more of the same. I think it would be the exact same thing with Jeb - no matter how hard he tried to differentiate himself.
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jeb doesn't have to win the general election first, he has to win the primary.
jeb will look like a college professor scolding children against that GOP group.
And the repub base was that asinine 29% that still loved Bush.
In the general, he's slightly more electable than palin, but still...
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jeb doesn't have to win the general election first, he has to win the primary.
jeb will look like a college professor scolding children against that GOP group.
And the repub base was that asinine 29% that still loved Bush.
In the general, he's slightly more electable than palin, but still...
If you're talking about first, then his best bet is the caucus, not a primary. He'd want a good showing in the Ames Straw Poll, then moving on to win Iowa. Maybe, I just don't see it happening.
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I'm sick of the damn bushes.
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In the general, he's slightly more electable than palin, but still...
That ain't saying much.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK OFF, NO JEB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no more fucking bushs.
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll take Palin, whatever, just don't give us another Bush, please please please for the love of fuck please don't...
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no no no no
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no no no
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no no
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jeb is no different than GWB.
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What the fuck are you thinking 240, don't promote Jeb here man... We don't want another fucking Bush. I'm so happy he's your boy from florida... NOT... I'll take Bachmann or Palin or whoever else but if you step up with Bush, get ready for a war you won't want.
Another Bush=FUCK OH HELL NO OVER MY......
PS... he's not even from Florida so don't get all loyal.
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What the fuck are you thinking 240, don't promote Jeb here man... We don't want another fucking Bush. I'll take Bachmann or Palin or whoever else but if you step up with Bush, get ready for a war you won't want.
Another Bush=FUCK OH HELL NO OVER MY......
240 always pushes those squishy "moderates" like christ, jeb, etc.
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you have to be some kind of serious Triple A Asshole at this point to promote or suggest a Bush for the next President. We so fucking clearly need Ron Paul... the only thing you should be doing is starting or joining a movement to draft Ron Paul for 2012.
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240 always pushes those squishy "moderates" like christ, jeb, etc.
yes, being the co-author for PNAC was the #1 sign that Jeb was just a squishy moderate.
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yes, being the co-author for PNAC was the #1 sign that Jeb was just a squishy moderate.
Ok, so you've identified him as being in bed with the hardcore neocons.... Something nobody wants to see again.... Why were you talking about Jeb again? lol....
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Ok, so you've identified him as being in bed with the hardcore neocons.... Something nobody wants to see again.... Why were you talking about Jeb again? lol....
actually..... if we get another neocon in there, then we'll have to hear all the tea party types (who were silent on borrowing trillions during the bush years) finally STFu about the debt :)
They only get pissed off at govt spending when it's a dem doing it. When bush wanted to blow another trillion in Iran, they couldn't hoot and holler loud enough. Let's give em what they wanted.
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Jeb would probably whip the shit out of every other 2012 potential.
And he would defeat obama too.
He is extremely smart, well connected, he has insane experience, he knows his shit, he has plenty of resources...
He would win in a cakewalk. People don't hate bush anymore.
Jeb was GREAT when he was governor of my home state of Florida. He's stated in the past that he doesn't plan to run. But, if he does, he has my vote.
My only issue with him is that he shot down Florida's attempt to to add the marriage amendment to our Constitution, claiming that Florida's current law was sufficient enough.
Outside of that, Jeb is the man. But for our Supreme Court, more school vouchers would have been available for our needy children.
I wish he would run. He'd tear Obama APART!!
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he would tear apart obama, i dont doubt that.
and sure, he'd be more neocon than tea party.
i'd like to see it just for the entertainment value. All the tea party types would have to suddenly support wars in iran, egypt, syria, whatever cause jeb/FOX are crying about it again. Ah, the good old days!
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Doubt it. People still hate Bush and a great deal of Obamas campaign was linking McCain to Bush claiming more of the same. I think it would be the exact same thing with Jeb - no matter how hard he tried to differentiate himself.
That dog don't hunt no more. NOW Obama has to run on his own record. He's got 10% unemployment and ObamaCare, hanging around his neck. He's got $3+/gallon gas and bungling foreign policy issues, as well.
Blaming Bush for everything from male-pattern baldness to erectile dysfunction ain't going to cut it, this time.
And it ain't a pretty one. Besides, Obama wanted to run against "Bush". Now, he may (unlikely, though) get the chance.
Jeb has his record in Florida to hold up high. Obama
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actually..... if we get another neocon in there, then we'll have to hear all the tea party types (who were silent on borrowing trillions during the bush years) finally STFu about the debt :)
They only get pissed off at govt spending when it's a dem doing it. When bush wanted to blow another trillion in Iran, they couldn't hoot and holler loud enough. Let's give em what they wanted.
who said they were silent during the bush years? They were formed largely in part because of the Bush years. They were labled paleo conservatives during the Bush years and relegated to nothing. It doesn't mean they didn't say anything or want to say anything because they did as loud as they could. If you read some of the stuff written by Pat Buchanan in the Bush years, that shit is awesome and of course Ron Paul. Several years ago, even before the political board was around, I was on here trying to talk people like BB into reading Pat's shit but nobody gave a shit. If you go back and read Buchanan's writings from the Bush years, oh yea, it's dead on and contrary to what you've just stated.
Point being that the tea party wasn't silent back then, they were just not known as the tea party. They were alive and well and it was those years that pissed them off and got them going full steam.
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240 is playing willfully blind again.
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That dog don't hunt no more. NOW Obama has to run on his own record. He's got 10% unemployment and ObamaCare, hanging around his neck. He's got $3+/gallon gas and bungling foreign policy issues, as well.
Blaming Bush for everything from male-pattern baldness to erectile dysfunction ain't going to cut it, this time.
And it ain't a pretty one. Besides, Obama wanted to run against "Bush". Now, he may (unlikely, though) get the chance.
Jeb has his record in Florida to hold up high. Obama
Maybe, but I think the campaign will be structured that way.
240 is playing willfully blind again.
Blaming the one brother for the sins of the other? Not really fair. But, I think that would def. be Obama's tactic.
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Several years ago, even before the political board was around, I was on here trying to talk people like BB into reading Pat's shit but nobody gave a shit. If you go back and read Buchanan's writings from the Bush years, oh yea, it's dead on and contrary to what you've just stated.
I disagree. I remember you posting links from Buchanan and I remember reading them.
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Obama would beat Jeb Bush big, says poll
By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Washington (CNN) - Some Republicans continue to hope Jeb Bush will get off the sidelines this presidential election, but a new poll out Monday indicates that President Obama would soundly defeat the former Florida governor.
According to the new survey from Fox News, Obama outpaces Bush by a 54-34 percent margin in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup. That's a significant uptick for the president from a September poll that indicated that Obama would only beat the younger brother of former President George W. Bush by a spread of eight points.
The release of the poll comes two weeks after Bush was featured on the cover of conservative magazine The National Review along with a story that hailed the former governor as a "can-do conservative reformer." In an interview with the magazine, Bush emphatically closed the door to a run in 2012, though left open the possibility of a White House bid in the future.
But National Review editor Rich Lowry later wrote he thinks this is the most favorable election cycle Bush is likely to face, given he has already been out of the governor's office for five years and is by-and-large removed from the public eye.
"No doubt he will have made many contributions to the cause in the interim, but by then his main credential – his governorship and its accomplishments – will seem like yesterday's news. Right now he has the feel of an elder statesman of the party while his time in office is still fresh," wrote Lowry.
The Fox News poll surveyed 911 registered voters nationwide by telephone between February 7-9. It carries a sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/14/obama-would-beat-jeb-bush-big-says-poll/
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No more damn bushes.
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The Perfect GOP Ticket In 2012 Would Have Jeb Bush and Rob Portman's Names On It
By Juan Williams
Published June 21, 2011
FoxNews.com
A Wall Street Journal/NBC poll reported last week that 45 percent of GOP voters are not satisfied with the candidates running for their party’s presidential nomination.
While the exact same percentage said they are content with the field, the current split is a long way from the same point in 2008 when 72 percent of Republicans said they were pleased with candidates running for the nomination.
The poll comes as the 2012 presidential field is pretty much set.
Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman formally enter the race Tuesday. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann made her entry official at the beginning of last week’s debate in New Hampshire. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani continue to flirt with running. Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels have opted against running and so has New Jersey’s brash Gov. Chris Christie. (Christie remains a favorite with the party grassroots. One poll shows him leading the existing field the minute he gets into the race.) No matter how you mix them up, the stubborn fact is that none of the Republican candidates — in or out of the race — shows the power to beat President Obama in the 2012 general election.
This chaotic scene in the Republican primary is enough to prompt early summer fantasies for the GOP faithful. Who would be on the 2012 Republican presidential ticket if a political genius dreamed up the perfect one-two punch to knock Obama out of the White House?
The answer I’m hearing around Washington is former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Ohio Sen. Rob Portman. Bush has said flatly he is not running. Let’s ignore that for now. He would bring in big money from the Republican establishment loyal to his father and his brother, the last two Republican presidents. He and Portman would be a great bet to carry the 47 electoral votes from Florida and Ohio, so creating a huge problem for Obama’s effort to win the 270 electoral votes it takes to claim the presidency.
Candidate Obama won both states in 2008 after George W. Bush captured them in 2004 and 2000. And any backlash against the idea of a third President Bush is not going to be big enough to turn any red state into a blue state. On the other hand, Bush’s brand name, intellect and stable personality could win back some key states for the GOP such as Virginia, North Carolina and Indiana. Obama won those states in 2008 but they traditionally vote Republican in presidential races.
Bush’s appeal also helps with the growing power of Hispanic voters. He is one of the few people in his party who supports comprehensive immigration reform and a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers currently in the country. With Bush at the top of the ticket, the Republicans may be able to undo the damage the hardliners have done to their brand by opposing immigration reforms like the DREAM Act and the 2007 McCain-Kennedy package. Bush’s appeal to Latinos could make the GOP competitive in states with large Hispanic populations like Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico.
Obama and the Democrats know how important Florida is to their strategy. This is why they selected Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz to serve as chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee last month. In an April poll conducted by the St. Petersburg Times, Bush trounces Obama 57-38 percent in a head-to-head matchup in the Sunshine State. Ever since Barbour and Daniels announced they would not seek the nomination, the GOP establishment has not coalesced around a candidate. Bush fills that void.
The perfect running partner for Bush is Portman. With unemployment hovering around 9 percent, jobs and the economy will be Obama’s biggest vulnerability. To be successful, the Republican campaign will have to make a plausible case that it could do a better job managing the economy. Portman, the former U.S. Trade Representative and President George W. Bush’s budget director can seriously campaign as Mr. Fix-It for the economy.
Bush and Portman can’t be marginalized as Tea Party extremists but they can spout enough hot rhetoric to stir the base. They are also perfectly acceptable to the social, economic and foreign policy conservatives in the Republican camp. The Bush-Portman ticket would satisfy the William F. Buckley rule for Republican Primary voters — pick the most conservative candidate who can win.
But is the perfect GOP ticket strong enough to beat the incumbent? The money among inside political strategists is still on Obama. Maybe that is why Jeb Bush is not running.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/06/21/perfect-gop-ticket-in-2012-would-have-jeb-bush-and-rob-portmans-names-on-it/
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Hell no!
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I love Bush.....
ba doop pshhhhh
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The Perfect GOP Ticket In 2012 Would Have Jeb Bush and Rob Portman's Names On It
By Juan Williams
Published June 21, 2011
FoxNews.com
A Wall Street Journal/NBC poll reported last week that 45 percent of GOP voters are not satisfied with the candidates running for their party’s presidential nomination.
While the exact same percentage said they are content with the field, the current split is a long way from the same point in 2008 when 72 percent of Republicans said they were pleased with candidates running for the nomination.
The poll comes as the 2012 presidential field is pretty much set.
Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman formally enter the race Tuesday. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann made her entry official at the beginning of last week’s debate in New Hampshire. Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani continue to flirt with running. Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour and Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels have opted against running and so has New Jersey’s brash Gov. Chris Christie. (Christie remains a favorite with the party grassroots. One poll shows him leading the existing field the minute he gets into the race.) No matter how you mix them up, the stubborn fact is that none of the Republican candidates — in or out of the race — shows the power to beat President Obama in the 2012 general election.
This chaotic scene in the Republican primary is enough to prompt early summer fantasies for the GOP faithful. Who would be on the 2012 Republican presidential ticket if a political genius dreamed up the perfect one-two punch to knock Obama out of the White House?
The answer I’m hearing around Washington is former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Ohio Sen. Rob Portman. Bush has said flatly he is not running. Let’s ignore that for now. He would bring in big money from the Republican establishment loyal to his father and his brother, the last two Republican presidents. He and Portman would be a great bet to carry the 47 electoral votes from Florida and Ohio, so creating a huge problem for Obama’s effort to win the 270 electoral votes it takes to claim the presidency.
Candidate Obama won both states in 2008 after George W. Bush captured them in 2004 and 2000. And any backlash against the idea of a third President Bush is not going to be big enough to turn any red state into a blue state. On the other hand, Bush’s brand name, intellect and stable personality could win back some key states for the GOP such as Virginia, North Carolina and Indiana. Obama won those states in 2008 but they traditionally vote Republican in presidential races.
Bush’s appeal also helps with the growing power of Hispanic voters. He is one of the few people in his party who supports comprehensive immigration reform and a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers currently in the country. With Bush at the top of the ticket, the Republicans may be able to undo the damage the hardliners have done to their brand by opposing immigration reforms like the DREAM Act and the 2007 McCain-Kennedy package. Bush’s appeal to Latinos could make the GOP competitive in states with large Hispanic populations like Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico.
Obama and the Democrats know how important Florida is to their strategy. This is why they selected Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz to serve as chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee last month. In an April poll conducted by the St. Petersburg Times, Bush trounces Obama 57-38 percent in a head-to-head matchup in the Sunshine State. Ever since Barbour and Daniels announced they would not seek the nomination, the GOP establishment has not coalesced around a candidate. Bush fills that void.
The perfect running partner for Bush is Portman. With unemployment hovering around 9 percent, jobs and the economy will be Obama’s biggest vulnerability. To be successful, the Republican campaign will have to make a plausible case that it could do a better job managing the economy. Portman, the former U.S. Trade Representative and President George W. Bush’s budget director can seriously campaign as Mr. Fix-It for the economy.
Bush and Portman can’t be marginalized as Tea Party extremists but they can spout enough hot rhetoric to stir the base. They are also perfectly acceptable to the social, economic and foreign policy conservatives in the Republican camp. The Bush-Portman ticket would satisfy the William F. Buckley rule for Republican Primary voters — pick the most conservative candidate who can win.
But is the perfect GOP ticket strong enough to beat the incumbent? The money among inside political strategists is still on Obama. Maybe that is why Jeb Bush is not running.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/06/21/perfect-gop-ticket-in-2012-would-have-jeb-bush-and-rob-portmans-names-on-it/
Those political strategists better get their U-Hauls ready, because they could lose their houses, betting on Obama (who now sits at 43% approval according to Gallup).
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no more damn bushes EVER!
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Man thats wild. Im going for Ralph Nader
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i like it when a girl trims.
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no more damn bushes EVER!
I like Jeb. To me, he was a great governor for the Sunshine State. I guarantee you, if he were governor of New York, you wouldn't be paying the taxes you're paying there.
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What the fuck are you thinking 240, don't promote Jeb here man... We don't want another fucking Bush. I'm so happy he's your boy from florida... NOT... I'll take Bachmann or Palin or whoever else but if you step up with Bush, get ready for a war you won't want.
Another Bush=FUCK OH HELL NO OVER MY......
PS... he's not even from Florida so don't get all loyal.
GOOD POST!
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What the fuck are you thinking 240, don't promote Jeb here man...
Jeb had the foresight to sign a martial law order, just 4 days before 9/11.
You gotta admire someone with that kind of preparedness.
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The Bush's are one of the most evil families in this nation's history. Fox News sheeple would probably vote anohter one into office though. Why not continue the monarchy?
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Yo i know this isnt getbig fashion, but everyone on this site knows my rep as a stand up guy even if as some people say, its just the internet. But I apologize for those remarks calling you vile.. that was over the top. I know i could have said that in a PM but i called you vile and disgusting on the board so ill apologize publicly as well...
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Yo i know this isnt getbig fashion, but everyone on this site knows my rep as a stand up guy even if as some people say, its just the internet. But I apologize for those remarks calling you vile.. that was over the top. I know i could have said that in a PM but i called you vile and disgusting on the board so ill apologize publicly as well...
No prob. I think I said you were complicit in the destruction of the country. So we are even. ;D
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I would vote for Jeb in a second...he's the only person I would vote for over Obama
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Hell I'd vote for him...
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I would vote for Jeb in a second...he's the only person I would vote for over Obama
Ill vote for Jerry West.. been puttin killer deals together since 79
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Jeb had the foresight to sign a martial law order, just 4 days before 9/11.
You gotta admire someone with that kind of preparedness.
lol
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lol
;)
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Hey Beach..... when is Linda Lingle going to announce?
I'd like to vote for her as well...
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Ill vote for Jerry West.. been puttin killer deals together since 79
that would be cool
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Neither Bush did worse than Obama. So why not?
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Hey Beach..... when is Linda Lingle going to announce?
I'd like to vote for her as well...
For Akaka's seat in the Senate? Soon. She's not sure if she's running for that seat yet.
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Is there an Arab country with a dictator and excess oil barrels? Then, Jeb is a good idea.
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Is there an Arab country with a dictator and excess oil barrels? Then, Jeb is a good idea.
LOL!
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Stay out da bushes!
No fucking more damn bushes. They have done enough damage to this country.
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Stay out da bushes!
I was trying to find that Jesse Jackson clip, but couldn't.
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Stay out da bushes!
No fucking more damn bushes. They have done enough damage to this country.
this coming from the guy who wants Sarah Palin for president....your position is seriously compromised
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What policy position does she hold that will damage the nation any more than bush?
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Is there an Arab country with a dictator and excess oil barrels? Then, Jeb is a good idea.
Oh, are you referring to Libya?
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What policy position does she hold that will damage the nation any more than bush?
she's an idiot..her policy position doesn't matter..she'll destroy the nation by being DUMB
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she's an idiot..her policy position doesn't matter..she'll destroy the nation by being DUMB
You mean like Obama the fucking moron who cant even pronounce corpse man correctly?
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Jeb Bush to Fox: 'Never Say Never' on 2012
Friday, 22 Jul 2011
In an interview to be presented on FOX News Channel’s Hannity tonight, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush discusses the 2012 GOP candidates, reasons for not joining the race and how he would tackle the country’s economic crisis if he were leading the country. He also rates President Obama’s handling of the country’s current economic crisis and says he is “failing on the economy.”
Excerpts from the interview are below:
On a potential run for the 2012 presidency:
“I don’t anticipate that, you never say never. This is a standard answer that I’ve kind of learned how to give which is -- you never say never, but I never ruling out being on Dancing with the Stars either … there are a lot of ways you can make a difference. Bob Wise and I are involved with education reform, I’m involved in supporting a lot of causes where, where you know my voice is heard and people that share my belief are excited about moving forward and I can play a role without being a candidate.”
On the current list of candidates in the 2012 election race:
“They’re all good men and women, there capable, they’ve made the all in commitment and this yearning for something else is very flattering for someone if you’re that someone else but in reality I think this race, we have qualified candidates and as it gets closer to the primaries to the caucuses and primaries I think people will begin to see the metal of the men and women that are running.”
On his reason for not running:
“You know I love my brother and I love my dad and I would consider it a blessing if I was a candidate to have their support and be associated with them. I think, the reason I am not running doesn’t have anything to do with politics or underwriting the political risks or anything like that, you know when you run you have to be all in and then you take risks of winning and losing. I’ve never felt comfortable with making political decisions based on whether it was the right thing to do in terms of a poll… By the way, the context changes almost immediately once you embark on a journey like that and it will change ten times between now and the Iowa caucuses, so my motivation really is a personal one. It relates to my family and a desire to fulfill my duties as a husband and a father which is I think we all have a duty to provide financial security for our families going forward so people don’t believe it but I promise you that’s the reason and it doesn’t mean I’m a hermit or gonna live in a cave… I’m totally engaged in the process you know I may support a candidate I don’t know but I intend to have my voice heard just won’t be with a big megaphone.”
On President Obama being critical of his brother George W. Bush:
“That’s a personal thing for me Sean, I get tired of it. I think most people do.”
On President Obama’s approval rating:
“If you recall my dad in 1992 had a approval rating that was double what President Obama has right now and he was running against the seven dwarfs I think …And one of those dwarfs became President… dwarf, you know President Clinton so the notion that somehow these aren’t folks that are capable of winning I just think is ridiculous. These are good people.”
On the current candidates in comparison to previous primaries:
“I think the old order is being dismembered. The Democratic Party, in my opinion, doesn’t really exist it’s just a coalition of communities around special interest and President Obama was very effective in mobilizing support in the downfall of the Democratic Party around his candidacy --- kind of being the organizing principle of that and that’s what he’s going to try to do again. Republicans being more traditional are slower to move into the 21st century model but the old idea that there was someone s...it was someone’s turn you know it was someone’s turn, no longer is valid.”
On President Obama’s grade of handling the economy and national security:
“I’d say national security is a work in progress. It’s interesting that he was very critical as a candidate of the policies that my brother initiated.”
“I’d say failing on the economy. The idea that you can stimulate economic growth by creating massive uncertainty for the folks that make investments, that create the jobs, which are predominately small businesses in our country is just not going to work and then the hyper regulatory climate on top of that, and the fear of just change being always to the detriment of people that are willing to invest and compete and create jobs, it hasn’t worked. And it’s clear that it hasn’t worked and we have long term structural problems that we have to deal with and there I don’t think we ought to be arguing on a partisan basis and we have short term challenges that the president’s policies have been tried and they’ve just failed.”
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Jeb-Bush-Fox-Never/2011/07/22/id/404566
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As much as I can't stand the bush family, he is dead right about obama and the economy.
What is this now the zillionth person to say this?
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These statements are funny. They say they don't want the job, but they'll "listen" or "consider it" if they're asked. That means he'll take the job if it's offered. I think it would be a mistake to pick him.
Jeb Bush Rules out VP Nomination
Saturday, 21 Apr 2012
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, the son of one U.S. president and the brother of another, said he wants to put to rest any talk of him becoming the running mate of presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney.
“I am not going to be the veep nominee,” Bush said in an e-mailed statement Friday. “Lay that to rest.”
The question arose after an earlier interview with the Newsmax.TV website in which Bush didn’t rule out the idea. In the interview, he touted the qualifications of U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida for the second spot on the ticket.
Bush was questioned about his own chances for being asked by the former Massachusetts governor to be his running mate.
“Well, I’d consider it,” Bush told Newsmax, “but I doubt I’ll get a call, and I don’t know if it’s the right thing for me to do. I didn’t run for president for a similar kind of reason, so I’m all in to try to help him get elected.”
Bush had refrained from endorsing any candidate for president before Florida’s Republican presidential primary on Jan. 31. Romney defeated the runner-up in that contest, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia, by more than 14 percentage points. More recently, Bush endorsed Romney, and has repeatedly said he is ready to campaign for the party’s 2012 nominee.
Bush served two terms as Florida’s governor, leaving office in January 2007. His older brother, George W. Bush, a former governor of Texas, served two terms as president. Their father, George H.W. Bush, served one term as president.
Jeb Bush, who has returned to private business, has declined entreaties from some within his party to seek higher office -- including a U.S. Senate seat that opened in Florida and his party’s nomination for president this year.
Asked Friday about his comments in the Newsmax interview, Bush said he won’t be a candidate for vice president either.
“I guess I wasn’t clear enough,” he said.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jeb-Bush-Vice-President/2012/04/21/id/436625
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I lost all respect (arguably, not a lot to begin with) for Jeb Bush when he stuck his nose in the Terri Schiavo case. Fuckin' idiot wishing to play doctor.
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I lost all respect (arguably, not a lot to begin with) for Jeb Bush when he stuck his nose in the Terri Schiavo case. Fuckin' idiot wishing to play doctor.
I didn't agree with him on Schiavo either.
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Rubio backs Jeb Bush for VP
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CNN Producer Gabriella Schwarz
(CNN) – Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, who consistently makes the short list of potential GOP vice-presidential candidates, on Sunday offered a ringing endorsement of Jeb Bush for the No.2 spot.
Bush, the former Florida governor, recently said he hoped Rubio would accept a potential offer from presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney to serve on the ticket, and Rubio returned the compliment.
"Well that's very nice of Jeb. I hope he'll say yes if future President Romney asks him," the senator from Florida said of his political mentor in an interview set to air on CNN's "State of the Union." "I think he'd be a fantastic vice president."
Despite continual questions regarding his political future, Rubio vowed to stay out of the "veepstakes" chatter going forward, given that the official process is now in place.
Romney appointed Beth Myers last week to head his search for the individual who will complete the GOP ticket heading into the November general election.
"The last thing he needs are those of us in the peanut gallery to be saying what we would or would not do," Rubio told CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley. "I know that Mitt Romney's going to make a great choice for vice president."
The first term senator and tea party favorite on Thursday said he would reject a vice-presidential proposal, adding his focus is on his Senate tenure. He and Romney are scheduled to campaign together on Monday.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/22/rubio-backs-jeb-bush-for-vp/
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The Talk Begins: Jeb Bush in 2016
Friday, 23 Nov 2012
By Sandy Fitzgerald
The talk has already started about a possible 2016 presidential bid by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, but before that happens friends say he'll be busy rebuilding his personal wealth and restoring his family's relationship with the Republican Party.
If he decides to seek the GOP nomination, it could put a damper on any plans by Florida Sen. Marco Rubio to run in four years, according to The New York Times.
But for now, "It's neither a 'no' nor a 'yes' — it’s a ‘wait and see,'"Al Cardenas, chairman of the American Conservative Union and a longtime Bush friend and advisor, told the Times.
After this year's loss to President Barack Obama, Republicans are looking for a candidate who can appeal to a different voter demographic that's no longer dominated by white men and women. Many Republicans believe that Bush fits the bill as someone who can attract Hispanics and other minorities without sacrificing his conservative values.
His supporters note that Bush's wife, Columba, was born and raised in Mexico. Bush, who speaks Spanish, also favors overhauling immigration laws to provide a route to citizenship for people already in the country illegally but who are otherwise law-abiding.
His appeal to conservatives in the party on key social issues is strong, however. For example, he is against abortion, and he supports school choice and tougher performance standards.
Still, some worry that Bush could have a difficult time navigating the feelings within the party about his father and brother. On the one hand, there is still some nostalgia for his father, former President George H.W. Bush, but some ill feelings toward his brother, former President George W. Bush, who started the Wall Street bailouts that Obama inherited and increased the size of government during his eight years in office.
But his friends say that's the least of his worries in deciding whether to pursue a third Bush family presidency. According to the Times, he is worried about how a presidential run could affect his sons' own political aspirations.
Jeb Bush Jr., 29, who said earlier this week that he hopes his father does run for president, has founded a political action committee to recruit and promote Hispanic candidates. At the same time, George P. Bush, 36, has filed in Texas to run for the post of land commissioner.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bush-2016-presidency/2012/11/23/id/465167
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jeb is the only one who could beat hilary.
Rubio will look like a child arguing with his grandmother.
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George W. Bush Tells Jeb to ‘Run,’ Says Jeb vs. Hillary Would Make ‘Fantastic Photo’
Print By Rick Klein
@rickklein
Apr 24, 2013
UNIVERSITY PARK, Texas — Former President George W. Bush says he isn’t interested in playing on the national political stage any longer. But for family, he’s making an exception.
Asked in an interview with ABC News’ Diane Sawyer whether he thinks his brother former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush should run for president in 2016, the ex-president was unequivocal.
“He’d be a marvelous candidate if he chooses to do so. He doesn’t need my counsel ’cause he knows what it is, which is ‘run,’ ” the elder Bush brother said about Jeb’s possible candidacy, in an interview that first aired Wednesday on “World News with Diane Sawyer.” “But whether he does or not, it’s a very personal decision.”
The former president even allowed himself to picture the potential 2016 matchup: Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Rodham Clinton. It would be a family rematch of the 1992 election, when George H.W. Bush lost to Bill Clinton.
“It’ll be a fantastic photo here. It would certainly eclipse the museum and the center,” Bush said on the eve of the formal opening of the George W. Bush Presidential Center at Southern Methodist University, just outside Dallas. “I’m interested in politics. I’m, you know, I’m fascinated by all the gossip and stuff that goes on. But the field won’t be become clear ’til after the midterms.”
Asked for a word of advice to the Republican Party, the former president struck an optimistic note amid rounds of GOP soul-searching: “You will exist in the future,” he said with a smile.
On several major issues, though, Bush made clear he’s staying away from day-to-day political battles.
With some Republicans calling for immigration reform to be slowed down in the wake of terrorist attack in Boston apparently carried out by two immigrants, the former president brought up his previous support for comprehensive reform but said he wouldn’t be commenting on specific legislation.
“I’m a strong advocate in reforming a broken system,” Bush said. “It’s a difficult issue for members of Congress to deal with. And they’re just gonna have to figure out how best to deal with a very complex issue. And I don’t know all the particulars of the bill. I do know the system is not working.”
Bush also took a pass on the issue of gun control and expanded background checks, which he voiced support for as president.
“There’s a lotta issues that people would like to get my opinion on, and I really decided to stay out of the public arena,” he said.
He took a similar tack on gay marriage, which Bush opposes — a position that puts him at odds with his former vice president, Dick Cheney; his 2004 campaign manager, Ken Mehlman; and his wife, Laura, and daughter Barbara.
“No, but thank you for trying,” Bush said when asked whether he’d like to explain his position in that fast-evolving debate. “I’m not weighing in on issues. … See, you’re either in or out.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/george-w-bush-tells-jeb-to-run-says-jeb-vs-hillary-would-make-fantastic-photo/
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NO!!!!
FU W
FU JEB!!!!
FU Hillary!!!!
The Bushes SUCK!!! No No No No No !!!!
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http://news.yahoo.com/obama-bush-distinct-men-policy-overlaps-073045083--politics.html;_ylt=A2KJ3CdPu3dR3S4AfDPQtDMD
Bushes and Obama = same bullshit
NO!!!!
If jeb runs - not a chance in hell i vote for him
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Jeb/Rubio.
33, is that like, the ultimate nighmare GOP ticket for you?
Toss that up against Hilary/some southerner and blah...
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Jeb/Rubio.
33, is that like, the ultimate nighmare GOP ticket for you?
Toss that up against Hilary/some southerner and blah...
Ill stay home.
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Ill stay home.
ya say that now... BUT I bet the dem offering would be so shitty that you'd hold your nose and vote for Bush/Approvio.
Romney and mccain were fcking jokes. I mean, just comic book punch-outs of what senile or wealthy politicians looked like. Phony as shit. and half the country were wearing their signs and bumper stickers.
A repup ticket no matter how bad, is still not as bad as whatever the dem ticket will be. You'd vote Bush/Rubio over Clinton/Whoever. I'm sure ya would.
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ya say that now... BUT I bet the dem offering would be so shitty that you'd hold your nose and vote for Bush/Approvio.
Romney and mccain were fcking jokes. I mean, just comic book punch-outs of what senile or wealthy politicians looked like. Phony as shit. and half the country were wearing their signs and bumper stickers.
A repup ticket no matter how bad, is still not as bad as whatever the dem ticket will be. You'd vote Bush/Rubio over Clinton/Whoever. I'm sure ya would.
No. I'm done done done.
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No. I'm done done done.
in that case, props props props.
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in that case, props props props.
No political dynasties. You would think the democrat slaves would feel the same about hitlery - but they are all into icon worship and are slobbering at the thought of her
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No political dynasties. You would think the democrat slaves would feel the same about hitlery - but they are all into icon worship and are slobbering at the thought of her
a lot of republicans voted for her in 2008 because a drug arrest pundit told them to.
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Did you see the Barbara Bush quote today? She wasn't smiling when she said it. And his peers will remind him often "his own mother said no more bushes"...
I think today is a big blow to jeb, who has been quietly assembling a team. His mother doesn't want to put the family thru it again.
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Did you see the Barbara Bush quote today? She wasn't smiling when she said it. And his peers will remind him often "his own mother said no more bushes"...
I think today is a big blow to jeb, who has been quietly assembling a team. His mother doesn't want to put the family thru it again.
F the Bush family - the nation shouldnt be put through it again.
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I will vote for Hillary or Obama as dictator for life before I waste my vote on that inbred piece of shit.
If I never see, hear or read about a a Bush family politician again- it will be too soon.
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I will vote for Hillary or Obama as dictator for life before I waste my vote on that inbred piece of shit.
If I never see, hear or read about a a Bush family politician again- it will be too soon.
no
i would vote for Hillary and then Jeb then Obama
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Jeb Bush: Obama 'Utter and Complete Failure'
Tuesday, 25 Jun 2013
By Bill Hoffmann
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, sounding more and more like a presidential candidate in 2016, tore into President Barack Obama, calling his administration "an utter and complete failure."
Bush was the keynote speaker Tuesday night at the Conservative Party of New York State's 51st Annual Dinner in New York City, where he received the Charles M. Edison Memorial Award, named after inventor Thomas Edison's son, a former New Jersey governor and secretary of the Navy.
Also receiving the Charles M. Edison Award Tuesday night was Christopher Ruddy, the founder and CEO of Newsmax Media Inc. Ruddy called the award "an incredible honor" and also praised Bush for his leadership on a host of issues important for conservatives.
The influential third party founded by the late William F. Buckley Jr., and headed by its current Chairman Michael Long, is considered a major stop for presidential candidates, with every Republican candidate seeking its endorsement. The honoring of Bush will continue to fuel speculation the former Florida governor is running in 2016.
During this remarks, Bush didn’t hint at his presidential plans, but he wasted no time jumping into the political fray, chastising the Republican Party for its lackluster performance in last November's elections and slamming Obama for what he called the poor economic state of the nation.
"President Obama has many gifts, but one thing he doesn't seem to understand is basic economics. He has this almost naive view that America's economy is so strong he can do anything to it and nothing bad will happen," Bush said. "You can nationalize healthcare . . . raise taxes and fees, regulate with abandon . . . $1 trillion deficits annually, demonize small-business owners and successful investors — and in Barack Obama's world, it doesn't even leave a mark."
But Bush said those policies had very definitely left their mark, damaging the financial health and the workforce of the United States.
"More than four years after the end of the 2008 recession we're still several million jobs short of where we were. We are more than $6 trillion further in debt. We have 8 million Americans who have given up looking for work," Bush said. "We've had more than four years to see what Barack Obama knows about economics, and the truth is, with all due respect, he is an utter and complete failure."
Bush blamed the GOP for its disastrous results at the polls last fall, with Obama soundly trouncing Mitt Romney.
"We got beat because our brand is tarnished with an ever-changing America. We may believe in our hearts that we represent the best hope for America, and I believe that in my heart, but unfortunately for us, that's not how most Americans saw it,'' Bush said. "Now you're thinking, How could somebody convince a majority of 125 million voters that they are better off having their own economic decisions and healthcare and religious freedoms and financial choices and everything else in their lives managed by a faraway bureaucracy?
"The answer is simple: We didn't make our case all that well, and they did. This is important because the path we're on today is simply a path of decline . . . It's not that we're seeing the decline of the American dream, we're seeing the decline of American dreamers."
Bush said the next presidential election will determine America's future.
"Will America continue to be the best hope for freedom and opportunity on the face of the earth? Or will it go down the path of diminished expectations?" he asked. "Let's be really blunt. President Obama isn't making good choices. On energy, he waffles. On immigration, he hasn't led. On foreign policy, he doesn't lead, even from behind. On the family, he is captive to the special interests of the left.
"Thankfully, we can reverse the bad choices . . . as easily as the good ones. That's the work of the Conservative Party."
Bush also called for increased focus on helping immigrants. "Immigration is part of our heritage . . . Immigrants are an economic engine of vitality for our country. They make things happen," he said. "We have to accept the fact that our immigration system is completely broke. It does not work . . . We're not enforcing the laws, we're creating distrust.
"Comprehensive reform should treat immigration as essential for our success as a nation and that immigration policy must be grounded in the rule of law."
Bush spoke of the importance of New York conservatives in the liberal Empire State. "You've proven that even in a state that doesn't often support conservative candidates, your presence, your involvement, your activity, really makes a difference," Bush said.
Then, in a nod to New York City mayoral candidate Joe Lhota, who was sitting nearby at the gala at the Sheraton in midtown Manhattan, Bush quipped, "Mayor, it's great being with you, too!"
Bush also gave an update on his father, former President George H.W. Bush, who has faced serious health issues and hospitalization.
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"My dad has recovered from a really bad illness. He was in the ICU . . . I love my dad. He's the greatest man I've ever met. We're incredibly happy he's out of the hospital and doing better each and every day," Bush said. "That's the good news. The bad news is he doesn't have the fawning caregivers of Memorial hospital in Houston, all those beautiful nurses taking care of him. He's got a new caregiver. Her name is Barbara Bush, and she's a lot tougher."
Bush, also the brother of President George W. Bush, was twice elected the governor of Florida, serving from 1999 to 2007. He heads Jeb Bush and Associates, a consulting firm; chairs the Foundation for Excellence in Education and the National Constitution Center; and co-chairs the Barbara Bush Foundation for Family Literacy.
Although he has made no commitment to seeking the Republican Party's nomination, many political observers see it as his for the asking.
Ruddy also noted in his brief remarks accepting the Edison Award that Bush needs to be considered as the GOP’s choice in 2016 because of his strong, conservative record when he served as Florida’s governor.
"When I think about the Conservative Party, I think about a party that stands for values, and we need more of that, not less of it," Ruddy said.
Ruddy’s Newsmax Media is one of the nation's leading online news media companies and has consistently ranked as one of the country's most trafficked news websites.
The Conservative Party of New York State said in a statement that Bush and Ruddy "are fighting for what's right in the media and in politics and public policy." It added: "Right now liberty is under attack in New York like never before."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jeb-bush-obama-conservative/2013/06/25/id/511909#ixzz2XLp8t318
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Jeb would do a very good job as president.
Outside of all that bush dynasty talk - I think ANY of us would choose Jeb to be at the table, facing down Putin or G20, over leaders like Obama or Rubio, who are soft soft soft.
Jeb might be a bush, and we know that has baggage, but he's competent. No training wheels. Would anyone here prefer a Palin at the table staring down Putin, over a Jeb Bush? Come on lol...
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Jeb would do a very good job as president.
Outside of all that bush dynasty talk - I think ANY of us would choose Jeb to be at the table, facing down Putin or G20, over leaders like Obama or Rubio, who are soft soft soft.
Yes... Jeb Bush is the man to put on the other side of the table from Putin... LOL.
Jeb might be a bush, and we know that has baggage, but he's competent. No training wheels. Would anyone here prefer a Palin at the table staring down Putin, over a Jeb Bush? Come on lol...
That's a silly question and I refuse to settle for Bush lest I get Palin. I prefer a serious statesman who will put the country and us above all else and not a politician who will put the party and his own ambition above all else.
With that said, I don't think that Jeb Bush is that person. I see no evidence that Jeb Bush is competent or that he needs no training wheels. His tenure in Florida (and the Schiavo debacle) certainly suggest the man needs a refresher on the proper role of Government. To be fair, that can be said for most people in Government, on either side of the aisle.
Beyond that, certainly Jeb Bush is no Sarah Palin. But then again, a parboiled potato is no Sarah Palin either. So that statement doesn't say much. And frankly, if "he's not Palin!" is the bar that the GOP has well, then... the GOP is fucked up.
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i also prefer a statesman to Jeb. He's not my 1st or 10th choice.
I'm just saying if he does end up against Christie, Rubio, Bachmann, and a few other obnoxious underprepared examples, he could easily move up and win it. I mean, newt and cain and trump and palin once led in polls... repubs just support whoever rass/fox news tells them is "hot" this week lol.
I'm saying he could outlast that sad sack group, and that he would be a safe choice.
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F U C K JEB!!!!
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/Jeb_Bush_to_present_.html#rHdF8CgJbHdekTS1.99
FUJB!!!!
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I haven't looked at him at all, but I don't like the idea of another Bush or Clinton in the White House.
But given how wide open the field is, he just might be competitive.
FEBRUARY 7, 2011 4:00 A.M.
Bush 2012
Jeb Bush should run now, for at least eight reasons.
John J. Miller has a cover story in the new issue of National Review that’s a compelling portrait of the accomplishments of Jeb Bush. Four years after leaving the Florida governor’s mansion, he remains one of the most impressive Republican politicians in the country, a formidable policy mind with the political chops to drive conservative reforms even out of office. So why isn’t he running for president? Bush told Miller what he’s said to others, too — he won’t run in 2012, but he’ll consider 2016. This is a mistake. Bush should run now for at least eight reasons:
1) It’s a wide-open field for a nomination that’s worth having. Rarely do you get such a convergence of a beatable incumbent president with a wide-open field to challenge him. Obama is slightly below 50 percent in the polls, with a real weakness in the middle of the country, and he’s saddled with a recovery that has yet to produce substantial job growth. Yet there is no true frontrunner in the race to challenge him. It’s hard to imagine an environment better suited for a heavyweight like Jeb to make a run.
2) 2016 is too late I. By 2016, Jeb will have been out of office ten years. No doubt he will have made many contributions to the cause in the interim, but by then his main credential — his governorship and its accomplishments — will seem like yesterday’s news. Right now he has the feel of an elder statesman of the party while his time in office is still fresh.
3) 2016 is too late II. By 2016, a bumper crop of Republican talent will be poised to storm the national stage. Marco Rubio not only will be the hot new thing out of Florida, he’ll be seasoned. Chris Christie will be ready. A host of senators and governors — freshly minted in the 2010 elections, so it’s too soon for them to run now — will be ready to go. Jeb will not be such a predominant figure in such a robust field. The crop of prospective GOP candidates this time reflects the downdraft in Republican fortunes in 2006 and 2008. Jeb would loom all the larger for it.
4) The Bush rehabilitation has begun. George W. Bush is not exactly popular, but two years of Obama have taken the edge off W.-hatred, and he’s risen from the depths of his unpopularity near the end of his presidency. Gallup had a poll in December that had Bush’s approval rating very slightly above President Obama’s. Bush’s book, Decision Points, and the accompanying media tour were successes. In 2008, Jeb’s association with his brother would have been an absolute killer. That’s not true anymore. The controversies that made the Bush years so venomous have faded, and — partly through the miracle of the accelerated news cycle — 2000–2008 already feels somewhat distant.
5) Jeb will still be a Bush in 2016. There’s no doubt that it will always be awkward for Jeb to be the third Bush; it will always have a dynastic feel about it. But that will remain as true in 2016. If Jeb runs in four years, after Obama presumably wins a second term in 2012, he will still be vying to be the third Republican president in a row who’s a Bush. Waiting until 2016 won’t make that fact any less odd.
6) He’s not just another Bush. Jeb is different from his patrician dad and different from his thoroughly Texan brother. As soon as people see him on the national stage, they’ll realize he’s his own person and has to be taken on his own terms.
7) Jeb can unite the party. Jeb probably has a better chance to unite the establishment and Tea Party wings of the GOP than anyone else, certainly a better chance than Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney would seem to have at this juncture. The establishment would presumably flock to Jeb, while he’d have a record of solid conservative accomplishment to sell to the conservative base. Some tea partiers will have zero interest in another Bush, and Jeb will take his lumps on immigration (at NR, we’ll look forward to administering some of them, and trying to change his mind). It’s a very volatile environment, and were he to run, much would obviously depend on how he actually campaigned. But he would stand a good chance of avoiding a damaging division in the party.
8) Waiting is almost always a mistake. It’s an axiom of presidential politics that you have to run when you have the opening, even if it seems “too soon.” This is why Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were elected president and Mario Cuomo never was. Jeb’s opening is now — “too soon” after his brother’s presidency, “too soon” into his life as an ex-governor — and it will probably never quite be there again.
In short, if Jeb feels a call to run for president, it has to be 2012, not 2016.
— Rich Lowry is editor of National Review.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/print/259099
Another Bush another False Flag
F.U.B.B.
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Jeb Bush: 'I Would Put My Record Up Against Anybody'
Tuesday, 19 Nov 2013
By Lisa Barron
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush touted his political credentials in a New York appearance Monday night, calling himself a "practicing" conservative, but would not reveal whether he will seek the Republican presidential nomination in 2016.
"I have not gotten advice and I have not sought it yet. There's a time to make a decision and you shouldn't make it too early," Bush said in a talk at the 92nd Street Y in New York City, reports Politico.
"This is not the time for me. This is the time for me to show a little self-restraint," he added.
After moderator Thane Rosenbaum described him as a "moderate," Bush joked, "You just attacked me by calling me a moderate."
He added later, "Look, I'm a conservative and I'm a practicing one, not a talk-about-it-one . . . I would put my record up against anybody that's in Congress right now."
The two-term former governor pointed to his approach on issues, such as education reform and affirmative action, while in office as examples of his conservative views, according to Politico.
Bush, who was discussing his new book, "Immigration Wars: Forging an American Solution,", also said he thinks the House will pass immigration legislation next year. He insisted that Speaker John Boehner was "totally committed" to the effort, reports BuzzFeed.
"I think there will be bills passed," Bush said. "It won't be one comprehensive bill. I think it will probably be in late spring, where there's a little bit of a window before the election starts in earnest. I hope so, I hope that's the case. I've talked to Speaker Boehner and he's totally committed to this, but he needs to find a way to get enough of the support."
For his part, Bush believes immigration policy should be seen as part of an overall economic strategy, telling the audience, "I think a lot of people view immigration as, by supporting immigrants, you're taking away from me. And I would argue the opposite is the case."
He continued, "If we have this narrow perspective of 'We're not going to grow anymore and the pie is set and that's it, so I'm going to fight for mine,' were doomed. That's it.
"Our country doesn't work well in a static kind of environment. Our country works well when it's dynamic and aspirational."
Immigrants, Bush added, "aren't a drain on that, they're actually a catalytic converter for sustained economic growth."
Bush also praised Florida Sen. Marco Rubio for his role in the immigration debate, saying he "gets a lot of credit for kind of leading parts of the party towards" reform.
At the end of the discussion, Rosenbaum, a Fordham law professor, told Bush that had earned a lot of votes during the night.
"Votes for what?" Bush responded.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jeb-bush-record/2013/11/19/id/537469#ixzz2l8WMukTH
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After GW Bush we welcomed Obama, after Obama we might welcome Jeb Bush... :-\
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F U C K JEB!!!!
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/Jeb_Bush_to_present_.html#rHdF8CgJbHdekTS1.99
FUJB!!!!
Imagine a Bush/Clinton ticket in 2016. Shit would be unbeatable.
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Jeb Bush Would Beat Rubio in 2016 Fla. Primary
Friday, 22 Nov 2013
By Courtney Coren
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush would beat Florida Sen. Marco Rubio in a statewide Republican presidential primary if the vote were held today, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Friday.
The survey of 1,646 registered state voters found that Bush would pull 22 percent of the vote to Rubio's 18 percent.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would win the Democratic primary in the state, beating other potential party candidates, drawing 70 percent of the vote. The poll also shows Clinton beating all potential GOP candidates in the Florida general election, even though Bush would give her quite a run.
According to the statewide survey conducted Nov. 12-17, if the vote were held today Clinton would receive 47 percent support to the former governor's 45 percent. She would beat New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie by a margin of 45 percent to 41 percent, and Rubio by 50 percent to 43 percent.
In the poll's hypothetical Republican primary matchup, Bush would also beat Christie, who drew 14 percent support from respondents on the primary question. Other candidates in hypothetical matchups were Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who got 12 percent support, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul with 9 percent.
Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan and Govs. Scott Walker of Wisconsin and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana were also part of the survey, but drew only 6 percent or less support.
The survey also asked which of the candidates would make a "good" president. Clinton drew 56 percent compared to Bush at 46 percent and Christie with 45 percent. All the others negative scores on that question, with even Rubio, pulling only 39 percent.
"It's no surprise that Hillary Clinton is well thought of by Florida voters," said Quinnipiac assistant polling director Peter Brown. But when asked if she would be a good president, more voters said yes than the poll indicated would actually voter for her.
"Nonetheless, she is neck-and-neck with former Gov. Jeb Bush and has a narrow lead over Chris Christie," Brown said. "Another Florida favorite son, Sen. Marco Rubio, doesn't fare as well."
Florida often is a decisive state in the presidential race, with 29 electoral votes. The state famously put George W. Bush in the White House in 2000, and has picked every president since Bill Clinton won in 1992.
The poll also asked how Florida voters feel about President Barack Obama, with 57 percent of respondents disapproving of how he's doing his job to 40 percent who approve. That figure is up 9 points since June, and generally matches the president's job performance rating across the country.
Floridians also oppose Obamacare 54 percent to 39 percent.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/bush-rubio-clinton-florida/2013/11/22/id/538166#ixzz2lPfIbj4u
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Jeb Bush Would Beat Rubio in 2016 Fla. Primary
Friday, 22 Nov 2013
By Courtney Coren
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush would beat Florida Sen. Marco Rubio in a statewide Republican presidential primary if the vote were held today, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Friday.
The survey of 1,646 registered state voters found that Bush would pull 22 percent of the vote to Rubio's 18 percent.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would win the Democratic primary in the state, beating other potential party candidates, drawing 70 percent of the vote. The poll also shows Clinton beating all potential GOP candidates in the Florida general election, even though Bush would give her quite a run.
According to the statewide survey conducted Nov. 12-17, if the vote were held today Clinton would receive 47 percent support to the former governor's 45 percent. She would beat New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie by a margin of 45 percent to 41 percent, and Rubio by 50 percent to 43 percent.
In the poll's hypothetical Republican primary matchup, Bush would also beat Christie, who drew 14 percent support from respondents on the primary question. Other candidates in hypothetical matchups were Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who got 12 percent support, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul with 9 percent.
Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan and Govs. Scott Walker of Wisconsin and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana were also part of the survey, but drew only 6 percent or less support.
The survey also asked which of the candidates would make a "good" president. Clinton drew 56 percent compared to Bush at 46 percent and Christie with 45 percent. All the others negative scores on that question, with even Rubio, pulling only 39 percent.
"It's no surprise that Hillary Clinton is well thought of by Florida voters," said Quinnipiac assistant polling director Peter Brown. But when asked if she would be a good president, more voters said yes than the poll indicated would actually voter for her.
"Nonetheless, she is neck-and-neck with former Gov. Jeb Bush and has a narrow lead over Chris Christie," Brown said. "Another Florida favorite son, Sen. Marco Rubio, doesn't fare as well."
Florida often is a decisive state in the presidential race, with 29 electoral votes. The state famously put George W. Bush in the White House in 2000, and has picked every president since Bill Clinton won in 1992.
The poll also asked how Florida voters feel about President Barack Obama, with 57 percent of respondents disapproving of how he's doing his job to 40 percent who approve. That figure is up 9 points since June, and generally matches the president's job performance rating across the country.
Floridians also oppose Obamacare 54 percent to 39 percent.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/bush-rubio-clinton-florida/2013/11/22/id/538166#ixzz2lPfIbj4u
Rubio doesn't get a lot of respect in Florida... he won office using tea party momentum, but since then, he's been mccain lapdog & amnesty champion. "real" tea party members see through his act, and prefer rand or cruz.
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Jeb Bush on 2016 decision: 'Can I do it joyfully?'
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CNN's Dana Davidsen
(CNN) - If Jeb Bush runs for President, it will be based on two things - his family and whether he can lift America's spirit.
"I don't wake up each day saying, 'what am I going to do today to make this decision?'" the former Florida governor told CNN affiliate WFOR in a suburb of Miami on Wednesday.
But he's not saying no, either – at least now anyway.
"I'm deferring the decision to the right time, which is later this year. And the decision will be based on 'can I do it joyfully' because I think we need to have candidates lift our spirits. It's a pretty pessimistic country right now. And, is it right for my family?" he said while touring a local school.
Bush hasn't denied an interesting running, sparking speculation that he's seriously considering a Republican candidacy.
Bush's mother, former First Lady Barbara Bush, however, seems to have already made up her mind.
She's expressed her opinion publicly in recent weeks that her son shouldn't follow in the footsteps of his brother and her husband and seek the White House.
Mrs. Bush says it's time to let other families have a chance.
"She promised me she wouldn't keep saying this," Jeb Bush said. "But she is 89 years old and if you have elderly parents or grandparents, you know they speak their mind. There is not much stopping between thinking and speaking. I love her."
Jeb Bush has taken his mother's opposition in stride, tweeting after her comments aired on C-SPAN earlier this month: "What date is Mother's Day this year? Asking for a friend."
Mrs. Bush, a family spokesman said, feels her comments have been misinterpreted – that she only means her family feels no sense of entitlement to the White House.
Jeb Bush's brother, George W. Bush, was the 43rd President and his father, George H.W. Bush, was the nation's 41st.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/01/29/jeb-bush-on-2016-decision-can-i-do-it-joyfully/?hpt=po_t1
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John King: Jeb Bush Taking 'a Very Serious Look' at 2016
Monday, 24 Feb 2014
By Melanie Batley
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is taking a "very serious look" at running for president in 2016, CNN said, citing reports from Republican fundraisers.
CNN's John King said on "Inside Politics" Sunday that until now, most people thought he was not planning to launch a bid, but his contacts are now suggesting otherwise.
"I spoke to several Republican fundraisers this week who got phone calls from Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor, who hasn't said he is going to run, but is starting to ask some serious questions," King said. "So people think that at least he's giving it a very serious look."
Bush said at the end of January that he was not actively considering a presidential run and would defer any decision until later in the year, leaving the door open to speculation about his intentions.
A Washington Post-ABC News poll last month put Bush in second place among six possible 2016 GOP contenders, and The Washington Post said Bush could be a spoiler or savior for the Republican Party should he choose to run.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/CNN-John-King-election-Jeb-Bush/2014/02/24/id/554387#ixzz2uH8kVo5f
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NO!
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John King: Jeb Bush Taking 'a Very Serious Look' at 2016
Monday, 24 Feb 2014
By Melanie Batley
Cruz is running away from any involvement with the shutdown.
Rand is turning RINO...
Palin is obsolete and her wigs are pretty obvious now.
Perry is probably the best bet out of the bench, and Jeb would destroy him in any debate of substance.
Jeb stands a pretty good chance there.
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Jeb Bush Stokes 2016 Talks with Major Swings Through South, West
Wednesday, 19 Mar 2014
Jeb Bush gets the question at just about every public appearance these days: Will you run for president?
The former Florida governor gives a well-worn answer: "I can honestly tell you that I don't know what I'm going to do." It's an answer that won't satisfy the GOP faithful for much longer.
The scion of the Bush political dynasty will likely be asked the question many times in the coming weeks as he raises his profile with appearances in Tennessee, New Mexico, Nevada and Texas — where he'll bump into another possible 2016 presidential candidate, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Bush's "yes" or "no" is one of the most significant factors looming over the 2016 Republican presidential contest. A White House bid by the brother and son of presidents would shake up a wide-open GOP field, attract a legion of big-money donors and set up a showdown with the influential tea party movement. Bush has said he'll consult with his family this summer and make a decision by the end of the year.
With New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie facing multiple investigations in a political retribution probe, many Republicans see Bush as a potent alternative: a two-term GOP governor who thrived in the nation's largest swing-voting state and could make the party more inclusive.
Friends and advisers say he is seriously considering a presidential run. His busy schedule will do little to quiet speculation.
This month, Bush is expected to visit New Mexico and Nevada to campaign for Republican governors there, even though both incumbents are widely expected to cruise to re-election. In Las Vegas, he'll address leaders of the Republican Jewish Coalition, an influential political group backed by casino magnate and GOP mega-donor Sheldon Adelson.
And in Dallas next week, Bush is scheduled to co-host an education conference where Clinton is also set to appear.
With no clear frontrunner for the GOP nomination, Bush's standing is rising in early presidential polls and among donors. His popularity with wealthy insiders was on display last month at a Republican fundraiser in the gilded ballroom of Mar-a-Lago, Donald Trump's Palm Beach estate. The night's keynote speaker was a tea party firebrand, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, but a short video message from Bush received far more applause.
"Jeb is striking a chord amongst many thoughtful donors," said Fred Malek, finance chairman of the Republican Governors Association.
"He's a proven conservative," Malek said. "But at the same time, he is not viewed as extreme or an ideologue and therefore can appeal to the moderate element of the party as well."
Bush would carry both the benefits and the baggage of one of America's most prominent political dynasties. Its patriarch, George H.W. Bush, was elected to one term in 1988; his son, George W. Bush, served two presidential terms beginning in 2001. The family's vast fundraising network and political connections, in addition to Jeb Bush's own constellation of donors and advisers, could fuel a formidable campaign. A senior adviser at the financial firm Barclays, Jeb Bush remains a favorite of the Wall Street set.
But the shadow of his older brother's controversial presidency still looms. The family's matriarch, former first lady Barbara Bush, has repeatedly spoken of the potential for Bush fatigue, saying, "If we can't find more than two or three families to run for high office, that's silly."
A Washington Post-ABC News poll this month signaled head winds Jeb Bush could face: nearly half of all Americans, and 50 percent of registered voters, said they "definitely would not" vote for him for president.
Nevertheless, friends and advisers say, he is mulling a bid and reaching out to influential donors.
"He is seriously considering this, but he is not following the timeline that the pundits or the press would like him to follow," said Sally Bradshaw, Bush's former chief of staff.
Bush briefly considered a presidential campaign in 2012 but declined to run.
"It's much more serious this time," said Slater Bayliss, a lobbyist and former Bush aide. "The question for him is whether he's willing to make the sacrifices that he's seen his brother and his dad make at a time in his life when he's having an impact on policy issues he cares about."
Bush has spent much of his post-governorship studying education policy and advocating for the kinds of changes he pioneered in Florida, including publicly-funded private school vouchers and stricter accountability standards for teachers and students. At the same time, he has promoted overhauling the nation's immigration system and providing a path to citizenship for millions of immigrants who are here illegally, an intensely personal effort. His wife, Columba, grew up in Mexico. The two met while Bush was an exchange student there; she is now an American citizen. Bush speaks fluent Spanish.
His personal story and immigration advocacy could help him connect with Latinos, a group that Republicans have long struggled to court.
"He needs no briefing sheets when it comes to what's important to Hispanics," said Ana Navarro, a Bush friend and GOP strategist.
But the former Florida governor's education and immigration efforts would likely put him at odds with conservative activists.
Bush has been a champion of so-called "Common Core" academic standards, which were developed by a bipartisan group of governors and state school officials and later promoted by the Obama administration. Many conservatives see them as a federal takeover of local classrooms. Likewise, anti-immigration activists have battled Bush-backed immigration legislation in Congress that they consider "amnesty" for lawbreakers.
"We're seeing from Jeb Bush's actions that he likes having a government that has much more say in people's lives," said Jenny Beth Martin, co-founder of Tea Party Patriots.
Over the past two years, in speeches and public appearances, Bush has chafed at what he calls "purity tests" inside the GOP, saying both his father and former President Ronald Reagan would struggle in the tea party era.
Citing a scheduling conflict, he declined an invitation to speak this month at the Conservative Political Action Conference, the country's largest annual gathering of conservative activists.
"I'm a conservative and I'm a practicing one, not a talk-about-it one," Bush said last year.
In Florida, Bush slashed billions of dollars in taxes, toughened crime laws and revamped the state's education system. But he has refused to sign the anti-tax pledge that many activists now consider sacrosanct. He has told Republicans the party needs to shed the perception that it's "anti-everything."
Allies and adversaries alike question whether Bush, a policy wonk who often talks about "big, hairy, audacious goals," could stomach the hyper-partisanship and gridlock in Washington.
"He's accustomed to moving an agenda," said Dan Gelber, a former state senator and Democratic leader who often tussled with Bush in Tallahassee, "and I think he's got to be wondering how he would do that."
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jeb-Bush-2016-travel-president/2014/03/19/id/560394#ixzz2wQnsSZkp
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This is how Dubya got his springboard. Bunch of big donors all got behind him. History repeating itself?
Report: Former Romney Backers Pushing Jeb Bush for 2016
Sunday, 30 Mar 2014 0
By Elliot Jager
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is being encouraged to seek the 2016 Republican presidential nomination in a low-key campaign effort by Mitt Romney's former financial and political backers, The Washington Post reports.
Bush is seen as someone who can best unite the party as a viable alternative to New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who has stumbled politically over the Bridge-gate affair.
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Among those courting Bush are casino billionaire Sheldon Adelson, who hosted the son and brother of former presidents at a Los Vegas dinner for financial heavyweights where Bush was showered with encouragement to enter the race. The "vast majority" of Romney's biggest contributors would reportedly support Bush, according to the Post.
Among Bush's selling points is that he is viewed favorably by the party's establishment, and just as importantly, by evangelicals who are an important force in GOP primaries. He is known as someone who thinks seriously about public policy issues, and has the added advantage of being fluent in Spanish. Analysts say that to win the presidency, the GOP will need to reach out to Hispanic voters. Moreover, Bush's wife Columba was born in Mexico.
The former governor, meanwhile, has been traveling the country— though not the early primary states— making speeches and campaigning for Republican candidates. He would consider a run if he could do it "joyfully" and be an uplifting force, he said in January. His veteran political counselor Sally Bradshaw describes him as "methodical," "thoughtful," and set to make a decision about the presidency by the end of 2014, the Post reported.
Bush has written a book advocating immigration reform, campaigned for common core education standards, embraced the traditional GOP foreign policy agenda, opposed Medicaid expansion, and has told audiences that the nation is experiencing a lack of economic mobility and a crisis of opportunity.
Bush's disadvantages as a candidate, analysts say, include his having been away from the political fray for seven years, leaving him out of practice in adeptly addressing issues that have divided the party.
"It'd be a little odd to nominate someone who was last in office in 2006, who hasn't been politically involved at all, in any significant way, in the Obama years," said Weekly Standard Editor William Kristol.
There is also the matter of "Bush fatigue" – rising above the presidential legacies of his father, George H.W. Bush, and brother, George W. Bush, when 48 percent of all Americans recently polled said they "definitely would not" vote for another Bush to be president, the Post reported.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jeb-bush-2016-movement-romney/2014/03/30/id/562537#ixzz2xZWD6VQR
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Jeb is for illegal immigration.
I don't see him even making an effort to reduce wasteful spending.
Another RINO.
You know he is a RINO when the same people that supported Romney want him over Paul and Cruz.
If he somehow becomes the GOP candidate, I will not be voting for the 1st time in a while.
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I will not vote for Jeb - no way no how.
He is even more lib than W was
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Jeb is for illegal immigration.
I don't see him even making an effort to reduce wasteful spending.
Another RINO.
You know he is a RINO when the same people that supported Romney want him over Paul and Cruz.
If he somehow becomes the GOP candidate, I will not be voting for the 1st time in a while.
This.
How colossally stupid would they have to be to run another Bush already...
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Jeb is for illegal immigration.
I don't see him even making an effort to reduce wasteful spending.
Another RINO.
You knw he is a RINO when the same people that supported Romney want him over Paul and Cruz.
If he somehow becomes the GOP candidate, I will not be voting for the 1st time in a while.
Jeb brings "gravitas". People look at him and they know he will hold his own on the world stage. Bush 1 did, and bush 2 did, to a lesser extent. They know Jeb will do a solid job as prez. He might start a few oil wars, but the ship isn't sinking on his watch.
On the other hand, I think most of the other repubs are relative newbies. Rand, rubio, cruz... all first-term, right? There's Perry, who is still my pick for prez, cause he's just about got that gravitas.
You know the look when a politician puts on that phony smile cause they're desperate to win? When they don't have that "i'm a major league a-hole, and I don't give a crap if you disagree with me"... people RESPECT that, even if they don't like it. Cheney had it. Hilary has it. Jeb has it. That cold blooded, ice water in veins approach to things. Sure, they smile, but they have the ability to look you in eye and tell you to fck off. Romney didn't have it. Obama was a little bit colder than Romney, since he had 4 years in office + killed bin laden, and the office of potus does harden one up. Rudy had it.
Rubio, martinez... they turn into giggles and catch phrases and just, well, soft, when they're in a big room. Martinez just keeps tossing out gun phrases like red meat to the masses... but I've yet to see her hard and serious on a national stage.
Jeb, hilary, bush 1, cheney... they will stare you down. They will stare down putin. They don't gives a fuck. that is what wins elections. Jeb has it. Perry is getting there. So I think it'll be one of these cats with the serious gravitas that'll win the GOP nomination, not a newbie that cracks a smile when nervous.
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=465875.msg6960825#msg6960825
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This.
How colossally stupid would they have to be to run another Bush already...
Not to mention he has been out of politics since 2006.
If it's not Paul or Cruz, it's a sure defeat for 2016 and deservingly so.
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Not to mention he has been out of politics since 2006.
If it's not Paul or Cruz, it's a sure defeat for 2016 and deservingly so.
I like cruz a lot. I like rand, but his new stance supporting amnesty is troubling for me... I don't think the illegals should be allowed to stay here, and he does.
I do think Jeb would have a serious, experienced gravitas that Cruz doesn't. But I do like Cruz' positions much better.
However, we know repubs... they're begging to get a RINO in there.... Already you hear the big romney fanboys from 2012 suddenly saying Christie is somehow cleared from a report that his people wrote lol...
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Not to mention he has been out of politics since 2006.
If it's not Paul or Cruz, it's a sure defeat for 2016 and deservingly so.
I think it's too early to predict. A lot of the candidates look good on paper, but they need to go through the process. Remember Perry? I watched a speech and looked at his background, the performance of the state under his watch, and thought he was a terrific candidate. Then the debates happened . . . .
I want to see candidates on both sides go through the primaries. Actually, if Hillary runs there will just be a coronation on the Democrat side.
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ahhh... the illusion of choice
you guys sure love it
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Jeb Bush: Many illegal immigrants come out of an ‘act of love’
BY ED O'KEEFE
April 6, 2014
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush said Sunday that many who illegally come to the United States do so out of an "act of love" for their families and should be treated differently than people who illegally cross U.S. borders or overstay visas.
The comments came during an event marking the 25th anniversary of the presidency of George H. W. Bush at the library and museum that bears the name of the Bush patriarch. The event was closed to reporters, but moderated by Fox News anchor Shannone Bream and portions of the event were later broadcast on the Fox News Channel.
Asked about immigration, Bush started by saying that a bipartisan bill passed by the Senate last year made "a good effort" at proposing ways to ensure that people overstaying visas leave the country.
"A great country ought to know where those folks are and politely ask them to leave," he said, adding later that properly targeting people who overstay visas "would restore people's confidence" in the nation's immigration system.
"There are means by which we can control our border better than we have. And there should be penalties for breaking the law," he added. "But the way I look at this -- and I'm going to say this, and it'll be on tape and so be it. The way I look at this is someone who comes to our country because they couldn’t come legally, they come to our country because their families -- the dad who loved their children -- was worried that their children didn’t have food on the table. And they wanted to make sure their family was intact, and they crossed the border because they had no other means to work to be able to provide for their family. Yes, they broke the law, but it’s not a felony. It’s an act of love. It’s an act of commitment to your family. I honestly think that that is a different kind of crime that there should be a price paid, but it shouldn’t rile people up that people are actually coming to this country to provide for their families."
The comments clearly set Bush apart from other Republicans, especially some considering runs for president in 2016. Even Bush seemed to acknowledge that his position could cause him political trouble as he mulls whether to run for president.
In 2012, Texas Gov. Rick Perry drew criticism for defending a law allowing illegal immigrants in Texas to pay in-state tuition by suggesting that people opposed to the measure were insensitive.
“If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than they have been brought there by no fault of their own, I don’t think you have a heart,” Perry said during a GOP debate in Florida.
The comments were later panned by Perry's Republican opponents.
At the same event Sunday, Bush said he would make a decision by the end of this year about whether to run for president in 2016.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/06/jeb-bush-many-illegal-immigrants-come-out-of-an-act-of-love/
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Repubs that support amnesty are really just caving to lib pressure, and thus they lack testicular fortitude.
I like Cruz cause he doens't cave like Jeb or Rand. He needs to hit the weights/cardio and lose that goofball look, though.
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Jeb Bush: Many illegal immigrants come out of an ‘act of love’
BY ED O'KEEFE
April 6, 2014
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush said Sunday that many who illegally come to the United States do so out of an "act of love" for their families and should be treated differently than people who illegally cross U.S. borders or overstay visas.
This is evidence that he is a CINO. He has shown himself to be a liberal. This guy is not going to enforce the rule of law. He is not going to close the border. With this comment, he should be eliminated from any serious consideration by any self-respecting conservative.
Are we not a nation of laws? I wonder how many people present that type of defense when they steal, commit fraud or assault someone. "Well, judge, I did it because I love my kids." "Oh, ok, that's a great reason."
How about the people who are following the law and waiting patiently for their citizenship? Do they love their families any less because they are not crossing the border and risking their lives?
That comment by Jeb is the most idiotic argument for amnesty.
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WOW I was shocked to read Bush thought it was 100% cool to break US laws because the country you live in happens to suck. I hope he doesn't apply the same standard to illegals from iraq or other parts of the world. Maybe he only means it's cool for hispanic voters to illegally move here?
HORRIBLE thing for him to say - completely surrendering to illegals and really spitting all over the rule of law. Cue the LIBERAL-ASS republicans among us to say it's so great he's embracing the lawbreakers. After all, I guess the (insert any criminal name here) had to feed their kids too - maybe bank robbery is just an act of love now, too? Perhaps I can rob my cabbie today because "I got a family to feed". Guess what... the cabbie does, too.
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This is evidence that he is a CINO. He has shown himself to be a liberal. This guy is not going to enforce the rule of law. He is not going to close the border. With this comment, he should be eliminated from any serious consideration by any self-respecting conservative.
Are we not a nation of laws? I wonder how many people present that type of defense when they steal, commit fraud or assault someone. "Well, judge, I did it because I love my kids." "Oh, ok, that's a great reason."
How about the people who are following the law and waiting patiently for their citizenship? Do they love their families any less because they are not crossing the border and risking their lives?
That comment by Jeb is the most idiotic argument for amnesty.
Unfortunately, I don't think anyone who wants to be the nominee is going to take a hard line on immigration. And it's sad that "hard line" really means nothing more than enforcing the law.
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Unfortunately, I don't think anyone who wants to be the nominee is going to take a hard line on immigration. And it's sad that "hard line" really means nothing more than enforcing the law.
Ted Cruz would disagree. He's just some cardio + serious weight training away from being your next president.
Bush is to the left of obama on this issue now lol. Dems talking about logistics and economic... Jeb is just doing it because he has so much love for people in other countries. Not for those living here :(
BB, you don't have to surrender to amnesty quite yet!
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Ted Cruz would disagree. He's just some cardio + serious weight training away from being your next president.
Bush is to the left of obama on this issue now lol. Dems talking about logistics and economic... Jeb is just doing it because he has so much love for people in other countries. Not for those living here :(
BB, you don't have to surrender to amnesty quite yet!
I haven't surrendered to anything. Just stating the obvious. Both the Democrat and Republican nominees are going to support some form of amnesty.
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Seven dwarfs? Ouch.
Republican Donors Worry About '7 Dwarfs' Problem as Jeb Bush Mulls 2016
Wednesday, 09 Apr 2014
Dirk Van Dongen has raised money for Republican presidential candidates for three decades and will be a financial force for Florida Senator Marco Rubio’s 2016 presidential campaign –- if Jeb Bush doesn’t run.
He’s not the only fundraiser parked in neutral. Bush’s indecision is keeping Republican money and operatives on the sidelines much the way former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s possible bid is blocking her would-be Democratic opponents from making inroads with the party’s donor class.
“Both of them effectively freeze in place your fundraising cadre on both sides,” said Van Dongen, president of the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors. “They are both the 800-pound gorilla in their respective field.”
The 2016 presidential race at this stage is an inverse of the 1988 election, said Anthony Corrado, a professor specializing in campaign finance at Colby College in Waterville, Maine.
Back then, Vice President George H.W. Bush entered the Republican primary with a dominant political and fundraising apparatus -- his Christmas card list included 250,000 names, Corrado recalled -- while Democrats waited in vain for New York Governor Mario Cuomo to enter the race.
‘Seven Dwarfs’
When the Cuomo opted not to run, the party was left with the “Seven Dwarfs,” a nickname for the second-tier candidates who competed for a nomination that eventually went to Massachusetts Governor Michael Dukakis. Dukakis lost to Bush, 426 to 111 in the Electoral College and by seven percentage points in the popular vote.
The Democratic nomination race “shaped up late, and the way it did, because of the waiting to see what Mario Cuomo would do,” Corrado said.
The danger for Republicans in 2016 is that an establishment freeze brought on by New Jersey Governor Chris Christie’s home- town bridge scandal and Bush’s reticence could leave the party’s eventual nominee lagging in preparation behind Clinton, whose supporters already are building voter and donor lists.
It’s the e-mail lists that count in modern politics, said Nicco Mele, a lecturer at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government and former web strategist for Democrat Howard Dean’s 2004 presidential run.
If Clinton runs, she’ll have access to the names of more than 2 million supporters through Ready for Hillary, one of several super-political action committees backing her.
Clinton Machine
Ready for Hillary had raised more than $4 million by the end of 2013, including a check from billionaire financier George Soros, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission. Another big-money group, Priorities USA Action, is packing its board and staff with former Clinton hands such as Hollywood liaison Andy Spahn.
Clinton also has a traditional donor network, having raised $230 million for her 2008 Democratic primary race against President Barack Obama.
Ben Barnes, the former lieutenant governor of Texas and a top Democratic donor for congressional and presidential campaigns, said the challenge for other prospective Democratic White House contenders, including Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley, who want to build their war chests is that they, too, must remain patient.
“I’m sure Governor O’Malley recognizes there’s an obvious wait-and-see on what Secretary of State Clinton’s going to do,” Barnes said.
Clinton, 66, said yesterday that while she is contemplating a presidential candidacy, she isn’t in a hurry to decide. “I’m not going to make a decision for a while because I’m actually enjoying my life,” she said at an appearance in San Francisco.
Bush’s Itinerary
Bush, who left the governor’s office seven years ago, has stoked speculation with some of his recent travels. Late last month, the son of one president and brother of another was in Las Vegas at an event where he spent time with billionaire Republican donor and casino owner Sheldon Adelson -- something Rubio did a year earlier. Christie also attended this year’s gathering.
Rubio recently said he’d decide on a presidential run early next year and that Bush’s path wouldn’t affect his own, although he considers the former governor a mentor.
“I think people make decisions based on themselves, not on what someone else is going to do,” Rubio, 42, said during a Reuters Health Summit in Washington.
Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, a former member of House Republican leadership in Washington, said Bush, 61, has the luxury of time because of his universal name recognition and deep ties to a national network of contributors.
“There is a broad swath of donors who are waiting to see what Jeb’s decision is,” Putnam said.
Christie Advantage
There are Republican candidates who stand to benefit from Bush putting everyone else in a holding pattern.
If Christie, 51, can extricate himself from the grips of the George Washington Bridge lane-closure investigation, he may gain from donor idling in these early months.
As chairman of the Republican Governors Association, Christie is meeting with contributors and raising money for the party’s statehouse candidates. Christie generated a record $23.5 million in the first three months of this year for the RGA.
Last month, he attended a fundraiser for Governor Rick Snyder in Grand Rapids, Michigan. During the event, billionaire Richard DeVos, founder of Amway Corp. in Ada, Michigan and owner of the National Basketball League’s Orlando Magic in Florida, expressed support for a Christie 2016 run, according to a person in the room not authorized to speak to the media.
Nick Wasmiller, an Amway and DeVos spokesman, declined comment.
Waiting Game
“Smart money” is going to wait on what Bush or Christie decide about making a run, said Julian Zelizer, a history professor at Princeton University in New Jersey, “so it’s hard for anyone else to make a real pitch at this point.”
That could be a good thing for the party, said Scott Reed, a political strategist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a Washington-based business trade group, and manager of Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole’s 1996 campaign.
“A good, healthy fight on the Republican side will create a strong candidate,” he said.
Among other prospective candidates, Senators Rand Paul, 51,
of Kentucky and Ted Cruz, 43, of Texas have made the most progress in building support, Mele said. Those two leveraged legislative fights -- Paul on National Security Administration surveillance programs and Cruz on repealing Obama’s Affordable Care Act -- as e-mail-list boosters, he said.
Representative Jason Chaffetz of Utah, who is close to 2012 nominee Mitt Romney, said calls for Indiana Governor Mike Pence, 54, to join the field will grow in the coming months.
“There’s a lot of behind the scenes chatter and not yet a whole lot of attention about him,” Chaffetz said, arguing that Bush, in part because of his name, isn’t the best candidate.
“That ‘Bush’ hurdle is a big one,” Chaffetz said. “I think he’d probably actually be a very good president, but I shudder to think that we’re going to go back and have another Bush-Clinton discussion. Can’t we move on?”
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/jebbush-dwarfs-republican-donors/2014/04/09/id/564480#ixzz2yQ0Jd2bN
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Jeb Bush Defends 'Act of Love' Immigration Comments
Friday, 11 Apr 2014
By Drew MacKenzie
Potential presidential contender Jeb Bush defended his "act of love" comments about illegal immigrants on Thursday while also saying he believes immigration laws must be enforced.
The former Florida governor came under fire from GOP conservatives this week for saying that people who had come to America illegally to provide a better life for their families "broke the law, but it's not a felony, it's an act of love."
On Thursday night, he attempted to explain his controversial remarks during a speech in Connecticut at the annual Prescott Bush Award dinner named after his grandfather, according to Politico.
"This past weekend, I made some statements about immigration reform [that] generated a little more news than I anticipated," the younger brother of former President George W. Bush told the 700 guests.
"You know, I've been saying this for the last three or four years. I said the exact same thing that I've said regularly. And the simple fact is, there is no conflict between enforcing our laws, believing in the rule of law and having some sensitivity to the immigrant experience, which is part of who we are as a country."
Bush, who has been a longtime advocate of immigration reform, added, "It is not an American value to allow people to stay in the shadows." He was referring to the millions of undocumented immigrants who live and work in the country illegally while hoping one day to attain legal status.
As an example, Bush singled out a high school athlete at Miami Beach High School who's been in the United States since he was a young boy but who had recently been ordered to return to "to his native land." Bush said that the message the teen was being told was, "You're not worthy of being successful in our country."
"To be young and dynamic again we have to be young and dynamic again," Bush added, saying that Americans need to look on "immigration reform not as a problem, but as a huge opportunity."
His "act of love" statement had riled up conservatives and other GOP lawmakers who oppose any form of pathway to citizenship or "amnesty" for illegals.
"We appreciate the compassion in the statement, but the best compassion you can show a people is to uphold justice," said Tamara Scott, a Republican National Committee member and leading Christian conservative from Iowa, according to The Associated Press.
Al Hoffman, a Republican megadonor who chaired George W. Bush's presidential campaigns, said, "It's going to kill the Republican Party."
Bush's comments were praised by some Republicans who are hoping to capture Hispanic votes in the November midterm elections and in 2016. In 2012, more than 70 percent of Hispanics voted for President Barack Obama over GOP nominee Mitt Romney.
"The worst thing that can happen to a political party is not for voters to decide they don't like you," Alex Castellanos, a GOP consultant and former Romney adviser, told AP. "It's for voters to decide you don't like them. And that's where the Republican Party is right now."
The Senate passed a comprehensive immigration reform package last year, but House Speaker John Boehner said in February there was little chance of immigration laws being passed in the House this year because of fears the Obama administration cannot be trusted to enforce the laws.
Jeb Bush, who is weighing a presidential bid for 2016, indicated in his speech on Thursday that immigration is a personal matter to him because he met his Mexican-born wife of 40 years, Columbia, while he was an exchange student in that country.
"Forty years of marriage for me is a big darn deal and I love her very much," he said.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jeb-Bush-immigration-amnesty-Republican/2014/04/11/id/565010#ixzz2ycFZZMIz
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April 13, 2014
Paul defends Jeb on 'act of love' comments
By Alexandra Jaffe
ABC US News | ABC Business News
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) defended former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) against conservative criticism over Bush’s comments that some illegal immigration is an “act of love.”
In an interview that aired Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” Paul said that Bush "might have been more artful, maybe, in the way he presented this, but I don’t want to say, ‘Oh he’s terrible for saying this.’ ”
Bush faced backlash from conservatives after making his comments. On Saturday in New Hampshire, where Paul was conducting his own interview, billionaire Donald Trump’s mention of the governor and his comments at a conservative conference drew boos from the crowd.
Paul has been traveling the nation over the past six months trying to expand the GOP’s appeal, and frequently counsels the need for the party to be seen as more compassionate and welcoming.
On Sunday, he preached compassion toward illegal immigrants, but said such a message needs to include an emphasis on border control as well.
Paul said his message would be that “people who seek the American Dream are not bad people ... however, we can't invite the whole world."
“When you say they’re doing an act of love and you don’t follow it up with, ‘We have to control the border,’ people think, ‘Well, because they’re doing this for kind reasons, the whole world can come to our country,’ ” he added.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/203424-paul-defends-jeb-bush-on-act-of-love-comments#ixzz2ytVgZDAa
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April 13, 2014
Paul defends Jeb on 'act of love' comments
By Alexandra Jaffe
ABC US News | ABC Business News
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) defended former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) against conservative criticism over Bush’s comments that some illegal immigration is an “act of love.”
Rand wants the VP slot. Common sense says, if Jeb throws his hat into the ring, he will have the best chance of winning it. name, experience, connections, money.
Rand may play it safe during the debates, if he and jeb are both in it. Cruz will be the wildcard, and the RINOs that kneepadded for Mccain and romney will just looooove the "conservative" approach to amnesty offered by the Jeb/Rand ticket.
Cruz 2016. There it is.
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Trump: Jeb Bush Angered Many With 'Act of Love' Statement
Monday, 14 Apr 2014
By Greg Richter
Donald Trump says former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush angered many Republican voters when he said a week ago that many illegal immigrants enter the United States as an "act of love" to provide for their families.
Appearing over the weekend at the "Freedom Summit" in Manchester, N.H., crowds booed Bush's words when Trump paraphrased them.
"That's one I've never heard of before. I've heard a lot. I've heard money, I've heard this, I've heard sex, I've heard everything. The one thing I've never heard of was love," Trump told the crowd. "I understand what he's saying. But, you know, it's out there."
Trump said Monday on Fox News Channel's "Your World with Neil Cavuto" that he was having fun when he made the remarks, so he was caught off guard at how strong the negative reaction was to Bush's statement.
Both Trump and Bush have said they are considering a run for the GOP presidential nomination in 2016. Bush has the backing of the party's establishment, while Trump aligns with the conservative wing.
Trump told host Neil Cavuto he believes the United States is built on laws, and they should be respected.
"You either have a country or you don't," Trump said. "And if we're not going to have boundaries and we're not going to have borders, you don't have a country."
http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/jeb-bush-donald-trump-freedom-summitt/2014/04/14/id/565583#ixzz2yyxjFZli
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Trump was a lifelong liberal until the last few years when it became convenient to swerve right.
Some CTers (like me) still believe he's only ACTING like a republican to make them look foolish. NBC is paying him millions of dollars a year and coincidentally, he just keeps undermining GOP candidates and bringing up the birth cert stuff, getting egg on his face continally. He drove the clown car that is the GOP mess of candidates in 2012. All while being paid millions by a liberal news organization.
Imagine if a lifelong republican like Newt suddenly decided "I'm a liberal!" then went on FOX news 24/7 to rant about left-wing ideals in the most idiotic way possible, pretending to run for POTUS and taking away all the limelight form Hilary, Warren, etc, screaming conspiracy theories and wearing a bad wig... all while FOX happily gave him a primetime show and millions of bucks.
Dems would be convinced that the lifelong repub was just trying to make them look bad. But noooo "Trump would never do that", right guys? ;)
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Trump was a lifelong liberal until the last few years when it became convenient to swerve right.
Some CTers (like me) still believe he's only ACTING like a republican to make them look foolish. NBC is paying him millions of dollars a year and coincidentally, he just keeps undermining GOP candidates and bringing up the birth cert stuff, getting egg on his face continally. He drove the clown car that is the GOP mess of candidates in 2012. All while being paid millions by a liberal news organization.
Imagine if a lifelong republican like Newt suddenly decided "I'm a liberal!" then went on FOX news 24/7 to rant about left-wing ideals in the most idiotic way possible, pretending to run for POTUS and taking away all the limelight form Hilary, Warren, etc, screaming conspiracy theories and wearing a bad wig... all while FOX happily gave him a primetime show and millions of bucks.
Dems would be convinced that the lifelong repub was just trying to make them look bad. But noooo "Trump would never do that", right guys? ;)
All about the power
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Jeb Bush’s wife, family issues key to 2016
By KATIE GLUECK | 4/16/14
If Jeb Bush decides to run for president, he’ll have to defend his family’s controversial political name.
But more immediate family concerns might keep him from running at all.
Republican donors and operatives are chattering about Bush’s publicity-shy wife, so worried she isn’t on board with a 2016 White House run that they’re urging people in the family’s orbit to make the case.
Columba Bush has long been deeply averse to the spotlight, especially after an embarrassing encounter with U.S. Customs while her husband was still in office.
Donors also wonder whether Bush is willing to subject his family and their personal lives to the inevitable scrutiny that comes with a national campaign. Two of his children have been in the news in past years for arrests linked to drug problems and public intoxication.
So while the buzz picks up around Bush, the donor class’s new questions about old issues are a sign of not only the dynamics of a potential Bush campaign, but of how seriously a key establishment group is taking the idea of a Bush bid.
“The issues have been brought up by the press and others in the past, and the family issues may well be brought out again,” said Al Cardenas, the chairman of the American Conservative Union, who headed the Florida GOP while Bush was governor. “If these matters are brought up, it would hurt him, not politically but personally. He has to make up his mind whether that’s a burden he wants to bear.”
A top Republican bundler with ties to the Bushes described the rising concern among those lobbying Jeb Bush to enter the race that his wife’s opposition will keep him from running.
“One of the things on the list of why he won’t run has always been the belief that she is opposed to it,” the bundler said. “As you’re moving closer to when people have to make decisions and Jeb is doing some of the things he has been doing, there has been more chatter around it, if for no other reason than there is a huge number of Bush Rangers, Pioneers — whatever the hell we were called along the way — who remain effectively frozen waiting on Jeb to make up his mind.”
People in the Bushes’ inner circle are being lobbied to make the case directly to Jeb Bush’s immediate family, the bundler added.
The former governor’s concerns about his family’s privacy are thought to have played a role in his decision to skip the 2012 presidential race. One Republican donor recalled that the chatter back then among GOP rainmakers was that Bush would ultimately skip a run because his wife didn’t relish the idea.
“They thought he wouldn’t do it because of Columba…[that] has not changed,” the source said.
Bush, the son of one president and the brother of another, would be a favorite with the GOP establishment, though he faces steeper odds among grassroots activists who detest his moderate views on immigration. He has said that he will likely make a decision on whether to run for president by the end of this year, and that he will pursue it only if his family signs off and if he can run “joyfully.”
Comparisons are often drawn between Bush and former Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels. The latter was popular with Republican elites in 2012, but ultimately chose not to run for president, citing the “interests and wishes of my family” amid a complicated situation with his wife and children.
Bush’s spokeswoman did not offer comment for this story. But just last week, Bush spoke movingly of his 40-year-marriage and his relationship with his wife, whom he first met while on an exchange program in Mexico, her native country.
“I saw her face, and I fell in love. I can’t explain it, but that’s the way it is,” the 61-year-old said at a Connecticut GOP dinner last week. “You’re going to have to trust me on this one. And for 40 years we’ve been married and it’s (been an) incredible joy. She doesn’t get much attention in the political world because she’s pretty normal, actually…”
He added,“Forty years of marriage for me is a big darn deal, and I love her very much.”
Ann Herberger, who has served as a Bush family fundraiser and remains close with the former governor and his family, said Jeb Bush would no doubt make sure his immediate family is on-board with a run, while also talking to his parents and other close relatives.
“Gov. Bush, he has a tough spine,” Herberger said. “Really the first hurdle he’s got to get over is, he’s got a very good life now back in Florida, Mrs. Bush is loving being back in South Florida. Can he do this joyfully?”
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/2016-election-jeb-bush-family-105748.html#ixzz2zAVrqN00
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JEB BUSH PUSHES AMNESTY, MORE HIGH-TECH VISAS AT EDUCATION CONFERENCE
by TONY LEE 22 Apr 2014
At a prominent conference of education innovators, Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is considering a 2016 presidential run, called for more guest worker programs and a path to amnesty for all of the country's illegal immigrants.
Speaking at what is known as the "Davos in the Desert" event in Scottsdale, Arizona, on Monday evening, Bush said the United States needed "robust guest worker programs" and an expansion of H1-B visas for the high-tech industry," even though the notion that there is a shortage of American high-tech workers has been called a myth. He also called for a "tough but fair path to legalized status" for all of the country's illegal immigrants and an end to immigration quotas for countries.
Bush said that it was not an "American value to have 12-13 million people living in the shadows" and spoke about the need to protect borders and sanction companies that may hire illegal immigrants.
He asserted that the "rags to riches rate" in the country is only four percent and that the American Dream is being replaced with "stickiness at both ends," as those born either wealthy or poor are likely to remain so while the middle class feels the squeeze.
Bush has previously called illegal immigration "an act of love" and said the issue "shouldn't rile people up." Establishment Republican guru Karl Rove even conceded that Jeb Bush was not artful in those remarks. At the conference, which was co-hosted by Arizona State University and GSV Advisors, Bush made no reference to those prior comments, though he has previously defended them.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/21/Jeb-Bush-Pushes-Amnesty-More-High-Tech-Visas-at-Davos-in-the-Desert-Conference
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JEB BUSH PUSHES AMNESTY, MORE HIGH-TECH VISAS AT EDUCATION CONFERENCE
by TONY LEE 22 Apr 2014
At a prominent conference of education innovators, Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is considering a 2016 presidential run, called for more guest worker programs and a path to amnesty for all of the country's illegal immigrants.
Speaking at what is known as the "Davos in the Desert" event in Scottsdale, Arizona, on Monday evening, Bush said the United States needed "robust guest worker programs" and an expansion of H1-B visas for the high-tech industry," even though the notion that there is a shortage of American high-tech workers has been called a myth. He also called for a "tough but fair path to legalized status" for all of the country's illegal immigrants and an end to immigration quotas for countries.
Bush said that it was not an "American value to have 12-13 million people living in the shadows" and spoke about the need to protect borders and sanction companies that may hire illegal immigrants.
He asserted that the "rags to riches rate" in the country is only four percent and that the American Dream is being replaced with "stickiness at both ends," as those born either wealthy or poor are likely to remain so while the middle class feels the squeeze.
Bush has previously called illegal immigration "an act of love" and said the issue "shouldn't rile people up." Establishment Republican guru Karl Rove even conceded that Jeb Bush was not artful in those remarks. At the conference, which was co-hosted by Arizona State University and GSV Advisors, Bush made no reference to those prior comments, though he has previously defended them.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/21/Jeb-Bush-Pushes-Amnesty-More-High-Tech-Visas-at-Davos-in-the-Desert-Conference
imagine iraq dropping 10 million criminals at our borders. Imagine Cuba sending over boatload, tens of thousands of "legals" just washing up on FL beaches with the ability to vote & collect welfare the moment they set foot on the beach. Imagine Russia emptying her prisons, dropping 1 million illegals a month - - - marching them right from Siberia into Alaska.
Will Jeb let them in? Un-fcking-real. Think about what happens when his "Act of love" goes beyond mexicans that might bring hispanic vote, and translates into the nations of the world dumping the dregs of their society at our borders. Act of love, huh? Does anyone here want Korea dropping 50,000 murderers a month into rowboats, 15 miles from hawaii? lol
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Imagine ten million naked illegal aliens storming Washington, D.C.
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Imagine ten million naked illegal aliens storming Washington, D.C.
it would be quite the act of love.
all kidding aside, Jeb hasn't said he only wants to allow illegal mexicans to be here. Maybe he doesn't understand we'd also be inviting illegal somali pirates to come here. Suddenly, chinese political prisoners might "escape" their boat just off the coast of Cali. And NKorea... and Syria... and just plain ol' Taliban showing up, DEMANDING WELFARE, voting....
I don't think anyone supporting it has thought this through. Once you say it's okay as long as it's an "act of love", you're going to have garbage from all over the world washing up here.
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Not just Somali pirates, but Jack Sparrow himself.
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Not just Somali pirates, but Jack Sparrow himself.
I'm looking fwd to seeing Jeb come out to the beaches of California and welcome 10,000 rowboats filled with starved, diseased North Korean dissidents who were dumped just 12.1 miles from Malibu lol.
Imagine the world dumping their trash on our shores because we consider it an act of love to take on those who can't make it in their own countries. Oh, and don't forget 10 million Haitians willing to take a 600 mile boat ride in exchange for a lifetime of free welfare and foodstamps in Miami.
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Imagine 5 million one-legged illegal Mexican immigrants hopping across unguarded portions of the border. Fact.
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He's running.
Jeb Bush: ‘I’m thinking about running for president’
By Cristina Corbin
Published April 23, 2014
FoxNews.com
Feb. 26, 2013: former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush talks after his address on education to the Texas Business Leadership Council in Austin, Texas.AP
Jeb Bush said Wednesday he's "thinking about running for president," in his most direct statement yet about a possible 2016 run.
The former Florida governor spoke at a Catholic school benefit in New York Wednesday morning. He previously has said he'll make a decision on whether to run for president before the end of this year, making clear that he was considering the possibility.
But his comments on Wednesday appeared to be more direct. Asked what his "immediate plans" were, he said, according to an attendee: "I'm thinking about running for president."
The answer was met with applause and a standing ovation, after which Bush said: "Can someone call my mother so she can hear this?" the source told FoxNews.com.
His mother, Barbara Bush, has previously dismissed the prospect of another son running for president, saying "We've had enough Bushes." She later backed off that view, and even seemed to tout a possible Jeb Bush candidacy in a recent Fox News interview.
The event on Wednesday, which was closed to the press, was attended by Cardinal Timothy Dolan and meant to raise money for the Archdiocese of New York's Catholic schools.
Bush affirmed his interest in a presidential bid a couple hours after David Axelrod dismissed the idea.
Axelrod, a former senior adviser to President Obama, told MSNBC on Wednesday morning that "I have some real doubts as to whether he's going to run."
"Running in the Republican Party today is a hard thing to do, and I don't think Jeb Bush wants to run for president and have to subjugate his principles like the last two nominees did," Axelrod told MSNBC.
Prominent GOP officials and donors reportedly have launched a campaign to draft him into the race.
In an interview aired earlier this month on "Fox News Sunday," Bush said he'd make a decision by the end of the year. But, in a preview of the scrutiny to come should he decide to enter the race, he made comments about immigration that antagonized some on the right.
In the interview, he said those who enter the U.S. illegally do so to help their families.
"It's an act of love. It's an act of commitment to your family," Bush said. "I honestly think that that is a different kind of crime. There should be a price paid, but it shouldn't rile people up that people are actually coming to this country to provide for their families."
A recent Fox News poll showed Bush holding his own among possible 2016 candidates. The poll, which asked Republicans about their preferred 2016 GOP candidate, showed New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie leading with 15 percent, followed by Bush and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul with 14 percent each.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/23/jeb-bush-im-thinking-about-running-for-president/?intcmp=latestnews
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I will not vote for Jeb - EVER
F Jeb
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I will not vote for Jeb - EVER
F Jeb
You might be sitting out 2016 then, because he has as good a shot as any to win the nomination.
I think all Clintons and Bushes should not run anymore, but that's not reality.
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You might be sitting out 2016 then, because he has as good a shot as any to win the nomination.
I think all Clintons and Bushes should not run anymore, but that's not reality.
Definitely sitting home or 3rd party if its Jeb
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Trump was a lifelong liberal until the last few years when it became convenient to swerve right.
Some CTers (like me) still believe he's only ACTING like a republican to make them look foolish. NBC is paying him millions of dollars a year and coincidentally, he just keeps undermining GOP candidates and bringing up the birth cert stuff, getting egg on his face continally. He drove the clown car that is the GOP mess of candidates in 2012. All while being paid millions by a liberal news organization.
Imagine if a lifelong republican like Newt suddenly decided "I'm a liberal!" then went on FOX news 24/7 to rant about left-wing ideals in the most idiotic way possible, pretending to run for POTUS and taking away all the limelight form Hilary, Warren, etc, screaming conspiracy theories and wearing a bad wig... all while FOX happily gave him a primetime show and millions of bucks.
Dems would be convinced that the lifelong repub was just trying to make them look bad. But noooo "Trump would never do that", right guys? ;)
Nice complicated explanation....good theory...I think Trump is just dumb....thats a better explanation
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You might be sitting out 2016 then, because he has as good a shot as any to win the nomination.
I think all Clintons and Bushes should not run anymore, but that's not reality.
I like Jeb, but he makes too much sense...The radical right will beat him up so bad he will be another Romney....its inevitable
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I like Jeb, but he makes too much sense...The radical right will beat him up so bad he will be another Romney....its inevitable
He makes sense? Where? How? Jeb is just another statist asshole, who thinks his feelings and personal beliefs can dictate how others will live their lives.
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Nice complicated explanation....good theory...I think Trump is just dumb....thats a better explanation
if you reverse it... and a lifelong Dem "suddenly" got hired by FOX to act like an ass, embarrass his party, give the president a victory in the ONE area where he could be impeached (birth cert), and was paid MILLION$ by the Repub network to do so....
Well, we'd all be LAUGHING at how stupid dems could be, to fall for such bullshit. And so many repubs were ready to make the guy president lol..
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I like Jeb, but he makes too much sense...The radical right will beat him up so bad he will be another Romney....its inevitable
The "radical right" (whoever that is) didn't beat up Romney. It was Obama and his minions who demonized Romney.
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The "radical right" (whoever that is) didn't beat up Romney. It was Obama and his minions who demonized Romney.
Here are 56 quotes from republicans, doing exactly that, beating up Romney. Sure, you'll point out some of them are moderate republicans. But your sweetheart Susana Martinez, uber-conservaitive Rick Santorum, Bill Kristol, George Will, Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, Huck, Rick Perry, Haley Barbour, and a few other far-right names are on that list.
The far right did destroy Romney for being a RINO. I can't believe you don't see it.
Mitt Romney is the presumptive Republican nominee who will face President Obama in the Presidential Election this fall. Despite this, even Republicans aren’t thrilled about having Romney as their dear leader. In fact, Republicans seem to only be pushing Romney out of sheer desperation. They are so desperate to make President Obama a one term President that they are willing to support a man who they know is completely wrong for America and unqualified to lead. Don’t believe me? Here are 56 things Republicans have had to say about Mitt Romney.
1. ????“If you have things to hide, then maybe you’re doing things wrong. I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people.“
~Alabama Governor Robert Bentley, calling for Romney to release more years of tax returns, AP, July 14, 2012
2. “Now Mitt is not a perfect candidate. He has a number of problems. It’s hard for him, for blue collar families like mine to identify with him. It’s hard for economic conservatives to identify with him. He needs to do more to reach out to Latinos…”
~Former Republican NY Governor George Pataki, “endorsing” Romney and then telling the world how weak he is as a candidate, MSNBC, April 2012
3. “They (voters) want to know what’s the truth. They’re not interested in a chameleon.”
~Michele Bachmann, criticizing Mitt Romney’s flip flopping, speech in Florida, December 2011
4. “Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again. But I will say, if you look at the exit polling data in Illinois, you’ll see that Mitt Romney is broadly acceptable to most of the factions in the party. You have to do that in order to become the nominee…”
~Romney Communications Director Eric Fehrnstrom, describing his boss as a man who can’t make up his mind, CNN, March 21, 2012
5. “There are a lot of other people out there that some of us wish had run for President, but they didn’t. I think Mitt Romney would be a fine President, and he’d be way better than the guy who’s there right now.”
~Republican Senator Marco Rubio, wishing there were another candidate to pick from, The Daily Caller, March 2012
6. “He’s not a bold decision maker like Newt Gingrich is. Every time I talk to him, he says ‘well let me think about it.’”
~Romney supporter Sheldon Adelson, describing his new favorite Presidential candidate as a weak man who can’t make decisions, Jewish Journal, March 28, 2012
7. “I do know that all of the Michigan delegation worked very hard as related to the revival of the auto industry. There was really a choice between bankruptcy and liquidation. There was no one that was willing to come up not only with the cash to keep them afloat but also to serve the warranties of everyone, you and I that drive all these cars. There was no one that could have picked up those pieces other than the federal government. [The auto bailout was] ???bipartisan from the get-go. [Without it,] Michigan would have hit 40 percent unemployment rates.”
~Republican Michigan Rep. Fred Upton, endorsing Romney and then disagreeing with him about the auto bailout which has been a major Romney attack point, WMUK Radio, February 2012
8. “Mitt Romney and I don’t agree on every issue and certainly housing is one of them. When you look at what is going on here in Southern Nevada, you can’t say you got to let the housing market hit bottom. We have been bouncing along the bottom for years. And the fact is we have to do everything possible to: 1) keep people in their homes and 2) get people who are out of their homes back into their homes.”
~Republican Nevada Rep. Joe Heck, endorsing Romney, then distancing himself from Romney’s call to let home foreclosures hit the bottom, Las Vegas Sun, February 2012
9. “Santorum connects with some people. Unfortunately, my guy has a hard time doing that.”
~Former AZ Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen, endorsing Romney and then tearing him down, CNN, February 2012.
10. “Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big bold visionary stuff…We’re gonna have problems politically until we get some sort of third party movement or some alternate voice out there that can put forward new ideas.”
~Jon Huntsman, saying that we need a third party not long after endorsing Romney. Also implying that Romney is not bold, nor a visionary leader, “Morning Joe,” MSNBC, February 2012
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/16/56-republican-quotes-against-mitt-romney-every-american-should-take-seriously/
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Here are 56 quotes from republicans, doing exactly that, beating up Romney. Sure, you'll point out some of them are moderate republicans. But your sweetheart Susana Martinez, uber-conservaitive Rick Santorum, Bill Kristol, George Will, Rand Paul, Sarah Palin, Huck, Rick Perry, Haley Barbour, and a few other far-right names are on that list.
The far right did destroy Romney for being a RINO. I can't believe you don't see it.
Mitt Romney is the presumptive Republican nominee who will face President Obama in the Presidential Election this fall. Despite this, even Republicans aren’t thrilled about having Romney as their dear leader. In fact, Republicans seem to only be pushing Romney out of sheer desperation. They are so desperate to make President Obama a one term President that they are willing to support a man who they know is completely wrong for America and unqualified to lead. Don’t believe me? Here are 56 things Republicans have had to say about Mitt Romney.
1. ????“If you have things to hide, then maybe you’re doing things wrong. I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people.“
~Alabama Governor Robert Bentley, calling for Romney to release more years of tax returns, AP, July 14, 2012
2. “Now Mitt is not a perfect candidate. He has a number of problems. It’s hard for him, for blue collar families like mine to identify with him. It’s hard for economic conservatives to identify with him. He needs to do more to reach out to Latinos…”
~Former Republican NY Governor George Pataki, “endorsing” Romney and then telling the world how weak he is as a candidate, MSNBC, April 2012
3. “They (voters) want to know what’s the truth. They’re not interested in a chameleon.”
~Michele Bachmann, criticizing Mitt Romney’s flip flopping, speech in Florida, December 2011
4. “Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again. But I will say, if you look at the exit polling data in Illinois, you’ll see that Mitt Romney is broadly acceptable to most of the factions in the party. You have to do that in order to become the nominee…”
~Romney Communications Director Eric Fehrnstrom, describing his boss as a man who can’t make up his mind, CNN, March 21, 2012
5. “There are a lot of other people out there that some of us wish had run for President, but they didn’t. I think Mitt Romney would be a fine President, and he’d be way better than the guy who’s there right now.”
~Republican Senator Marco Rubio, wishing there were another candidate to pick from, The Daily Caller, March 2012
6. “He’s not a bold decision maker like Newt Gingrich is. Every time I talk to him, he says ‘well let me think about it.’”
~Romney supporter Sheldon Adelson, describing his new favorite Presidential candidate as a weak man who can’t make decisions, Jewish Journal, March 28, 2012
7. “I do know that all of the Michigan delegation worked very hard as related to the revival of the auto industry. There was really a choice between bankruptcy and liquidation. There was no one that was willing to come up not only with the cash to keep them afloat but also to serve the warranties of everyone, you and I that drive all these cars. There was no one that could have picked up those pieces other than the federal government. [The auto bailout was] ???bipartisan from the get-go. [Without it,] Michigan would have hit 40 percent unemployment rates.”
~Republican Michigan Rep. Fred Upton, endorsing Romney and then disagreeing with him about the auto bailout which has been a major Romney attack point, WMUK Radio, February 2012
8. “Mitt Romney and I don’t agree on every issue and certainly housing is one of them. When you look at what is going on here in Southern Nevada, you can’t say you got to let the housing market hit bottom. We have been bouncing along the bottom for years. And the fact is we have to do everything possible to: 1) keep people in their homes and 2) get people who are out of their homes back into their homes.”
~Republican Nevada Rep. Joe Heck, endorsing Romney, then distancing himself from Romney’s call to let home foreclosures hit the bottom, Las Vegas Sun, February 2012
9. “Santorum connects with some people. Unfortunately, my guy has a hard time doing that.”
~Former AZ Republican Party Chairman Randy Pullen, endorsing Romney and then tearing him down, CNN, February 2012.
10. “Gone are the days when the Republican Party used to put forward big bold visionary stuff…We’re gonna have problems politically until we get some sort of third party movement or some alternate voice out there that can put forward new ideas.”
~Jon Huntsman, saying that we need a third party not long after endorsing Romney. Also implying that Romney is not bold, nor a visionary leader, “Morning Joe,” MSNBC, February 2012
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/16/56-republican-quotes-against-mitt-romney-every-american-should-take-seriously/
Did you read what you posted? They are not demonizing him. Those comments were made during the primary season when they running against him. They always throw darts at each other during the primary season. And some of the comments were actually compliments, like this one:
5. “There are a lot of other people out there that some of us wish had run for President, but they didn’t. I think Mitt Romney would be a fine President, and he’d be way better than the guy who’s there right now.”
~Republican Senator Marco Rubio, wishing there were another candidate to pick from, The Daily Caller, March 2012
The stuff you posted, which is out of context, pales in comparison to Harry Reid calling him a tax cheat from the Senate floor, the commercial accusing Romney of being responsible for someone's death, and accusing him of hiding money in offshore accounts.
I can entirely believe you don't see this.
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Did you read what you posted? They are not demonizing him. Those comments were made during the primary season when they running against him. They always throw darts at each other during the primary season.
But you didn't clarify "The "radical right" (whoever that is) didn't beat up Romney AFTER the primaries.
Is that what you meant to say?
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But you didn't clarify "The "radical right" (whoever that is) didn't beat up Romney AFTER the primaries.
Is that what you meant to say?
I meant to say exactly what I said.
Did you mean to post quotes that did not support whatever point you were trying to make (again)?
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I meant to say exactly what I said.
Did you mean to post quotes that did not support whatever point you were trying to make (again)?
You said exactly this:
The "radical right" (whoever that is) didn't beat up Romney. It was Obama and his minions who demonized Romney.
Once I pointed out some quotes in which the far-right did in fact beat up on Romney, you suddenly added the qualifier "after the primaries".
It's musical arguments here. There's really no point in trying to keep up. You don't feel the repubs hammered Romney, and I do. You feel the repub base will "show up and support whoever the GOP chooses", and I don't (and the 08 and 12 data agrees with me). We can just agree to believe different things, man.
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You said exactly this:
Once I pointed out some quotes in which the far-right did in fact beat up on Romney, you suddenly added the qualifier "after the primaries".
It's musical arguments here. There's really no point in trying to keep up. You don't feel the repubs hammered Romney, and I do. You feel the repub base will "show up and support whoever the GOP chooses", and I don't (and the 08 and 12 data agrees with me). We can just agree to believe different things, man.
No, they didn't demonize Romney. But I completely understand that you don't see the distinction between members of the same party attacking each other during primaries and how Obama and Democrats demonized Romney during the campaign.
And it's obvious you didn't read the stuff you posted.
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No, they didn't demonize Romney.
ann coulter was probably the worst. "We will nominate romney, and we will LOSE"
Pretty awful thing to say. Disrespectful. She retreated months later, but yeah, that's bad.
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ann coulter was probably the worst. "We will nominate romney, and we will LOSE"
Pretty awful thing to say. Disrespectful. She retreated months later, but yeah, that's bad.
She supported Romney. ::)
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GOP Strategist O'Connell: Jeb Bush 'Wants to Run' in 2016
Wednesday, 04 Jun 2014
By Sean Piccoli
Saying that "if his last name wasn't Bush he'd probably already be sitting in the White House," Republican strategist Ford O'Connell says former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush remains a dark-horse candidate for president — and a potential game-changer with his fundraising prowess if he decides to run.
Despite a "rusty re-entry into politics," rankling conservatives with sympathetic remarks on illegal immigration and support for federal Common Core educational standards, Bush "wants to run," O'Connell told Newsmax TV's "America's Forum" host J.D. Hayworth and Newsmax contributor Francesca Page.
"He could conceivably out-fund-raise everyone in the field," said O'Connell, "and as you know, if you can raise enough money . . . in what's likely to be a crowded affair, you always have a chance.
"But it's going to be a game-time decision for Jeb Bush," he said Wednesday.
Story continues below video.
O'Connell listed a few more GOP maybes:
Ohio Gov. John Kasich: "He's got a strong conservative record and he's also got a strong economic record. And . . . it's the second-most important swing state in the Electoral College."
Ohio Sen. Rob Portman: "His future really depends on what Kasich does — they'd be relying on the same well of donors. I love Rob, he's a pragmatic, solutions-oriented guy. The problem is he doesn't exactly light your hair on fire on the stump."
Texas Gov. Rick Perry: "Sometimes you only get one opportunity to make a first impression, and Perry wasn't exactly ready for prime time in 2012. And I'm not sure donors and voters are going to forget."
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee: "He's doing very well in the polls, and I'm going to tip my hat to Mike.... But I'm not sure he wants to run because — let's be honest — he's got a great deal at Fox News."
New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez: "Her back story is literally the modern American dream.... I'm going to make this prediction: I see her as the VP choice of just about everyone in the field who could possibly wind up as a Republican nominee."
http://www.guy/2014/06/04/id/575247#ixzz33mZvxnNF
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She supported Romney. ::)
Yes, months after saying "If we don't choose Christie, we will select romney and we will lose", she begrudgingly backtracked and went on FOX to endorse romney and tell us how awesome he was lol".
So yes, EVENTUALLY, ,Ann Coulter did make a statement publicly supporting Romney. After she made a much more sincere statement publicly saying his selection would result in 4 more years of Obama lol.
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Yes, months after saying "If we don't choose Christie, we will select romney and we will lose", she begrudgingly backtracked and went on FOX to endorse romney and tell us how awesome he was lol".
So yes, EVENTUALLY, ,Ann Coulter did make a statement publicly supporting Romney. After she made a much more sincere statement publicly saying his selection would result in 4 more years of Obama lol.
She never demonized Romney. She supported him. So citing her as an example of someone who demonized Romney is factually incorrect.
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Jeb Bush Raises Private Equity Funds as 2016 Campaign Eyed
Thursday, 17 Jul 2014
As other Republicans travel the country laying the groundwork for 2016 presidential campaigns, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush is raising private-equity funds for oil and gas ventures.
Bush, 61, whose family made much of its fortune in Texas oil, has teamed with former Credit Suisse Group AG and Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. bankers to create an investment firm based in Coral Gables, Florida, according to regulatory filings disclosed last month.
In April, his firm Britton Hill Holdings LLC used backing from a Chinese conglomerate to acquire a stake in a Stamford, Connecticut, shipping startup seeking to capitalize on surging Asian demand for U.S. shale oil and gas.
“Governor Bush is a businessman and investor and is proud of the work Britton Hill has done to invest in important projects,” said Kristy Campbell, his spokeswoman. “If Governor Bush becomes a candidate for office, he will review and comply with all necessary business disclosures.”
Since Bush completed his second term as governor in 2007, he’s immersed himself in corporate America, joining the board of hospital operator Tenet Healthcare Corp., advising Lehman Brothers and Barclays Plc and giving paid speeches. The son of a former president and brother of another, he’s also engaged in public debates on immigration and education, and is viewed by some within the Republican Party as well positioned to compete for the White House in 2016. Bush has said he will decide whether to run by the end of this year.
http://www.moneynews.com/Personal-Finance/oil-Bush-private-equity/2014/07/17/id/583306#ixzz37m89UPDc
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She never demonized Romney. She supported him. So citing her as an example of someone who demonized Romney is factually incorrect.
bahahahahhaha
yes, yes she did.
"Romney will be the nominee and we'll lose" = Demonizing him.
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bahahahahhaha
yes, yes she did.
"Romney will be the nominee and we'll lose" = Demonizing him.
Oh brother. What the heck kind of dictionary do you use?? Do you even follow politics?
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The Bushes, Led by W., Rally to Make Jeb ‘45’
By PETER BAKEROCT. 26, 2014
WASHINGTON — When Jeb Bush decides whether to run for president, there will be no family meeting à la Mitt Romney, no gathering at Walker’s Point in Kennebunkport to go over the pros and cons. “I don’t think it’ll be like a big internal straw poll,” said his son, Jeb Bush Jr.
But if there were, the results of the poll are pretty much in. As Mr. Bush nears a decision to become the third member of his storied family to seek the presidency, the extended Bush clan and its attendant network, albeit with one prominent exception, are largely rallying behind the prospect and pulling the old machine out of the closet.
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“No question,” Jeb Jr. said in an interview, “people are getting fired up about it — donors and people who have been around the political process for a while, people he’s known in Tallahassee when he was governor. The family, we’re geared up either way.” Most important, he added, his mother, Columba, the prospective candidate’s politics-averse wife, has given her assent.
Within the family, the top cheerleaders have been George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush, both of whom know something about running for president, and both of whom have an interest in perpetuating, if not redeeming, the family legacy. Barbara Bush, the former first lady and Jeb Bush’s mother, is unconvinced, according to people close to the family, but has been persuaded to stop saying it so publicly. George P. Bush, his other son, who is running for Texas land commissioner, has been supportive of what he calls a likely run.
And then there is the larger Bush clan, the vast constellation of friends, advisers, strategists, pollsters, fund-raisers, donors and supporters assembled over several generations in public life. With Jeb Bush, the former two-term governor of Florida, comes one more chance to reach the top. “They’re like horses in the stall waiting for the gate to break,” said one family insider who has known Jeb Bush for decades and like others did not want to be named. “They’re all jumping up and down.”
Just six years ago, at the end of the last tumultuous Bush presidency, this would have been all but unthinkable. But President Obama’s troubles, the internal divisions of the Republican Party, a newfound nostalgia for the first Bush presidency and a modest softening of views about the second have changed the dynamics enough to make plausible another Bush candidacy. And while Jeb Bush wants to run as his own man, invariably this is a family with something to prove.
For the elder Mr. Bush, Jeb was always the son expected to go far in politics, the serious one with drive to spare. After George W. gave up drinking and surpassed his brother, the elder Mr. Bush still harbored ambitions for the second son. Now 90 and in fading health, Mr. Bush has been animated about a possible Jeb campaign, according to friends.
“If it were up to his father, he would be a candidate,” said Jim McGrath, a spokesman for the former president. But the Bushes are wary of the presumption of a dynasty.
“They’re very sensitive to the idea that anyone might think the family feels entitled to the nomination,” Mr. McGrath said. “First of all, it just wouldn’t be true. And second of all, they understand it would be poison to a candidacy if that perception were ever to get out there.”
As for George W., he has not been especially close to Jeb, who is seven years younger. By all accounts, the former president is closer to their younger brother, Marvin, who visited him in the White House or at Camp David regularly.
But George W. has become an outspoken advocate of a White House bid by Jeb. “The one person who is really, really trying to get Jeb to run is George W.,” said the family insider. “He’s talking it up all the time.”
The former president lobbied Jeb when the two saw each other in Dallas several weeks ago, but he acknowledged with a laugh that his pressure could backfire. “I don’t think he liked it that his older brother was pushing him,” Mr. Bush told Fox News afterward.
None of that means Jeb Bush will run. He has said he will decide by the end of the year, and could simply be keeping the possibility open to enhance his influence on the political stage. To some who have spoken with him in recent months, he has not exhibited the same fire that his father and brother did at this stage.
Advisers to Mr. Bush said he has not authorized anyone to line up money or people to work for him. Some of the positions he has taken on immigration, taxes and education are at odds with the prevailing orthodoxy of his party. He knows he would have to find a way to distance himself from some of the unpopular decisions of his father, and especially of his brother, while overcoming broader Bush fatigue.
And he has said publicly he does not want to run if it means getting caught in the “vortex of a mud fight,” acutely aware of the perils of bringing his family into the harsh light of modern politics. Columba was once stopped by customs agents for not declaring the full value of $19,000 in clothing and jewelry she bought in Paris, and their daughter Noelle was arrested on a prescription drug fraud charge a dozen years ago.
“He has certainly not given anyone I’m aware of the ability to have conversations with potential donors or staff to keep his powder dry,” said Sally Bradshaw, a longtime adviser. “That doesn’t mean people don’t call us and say we want Jeb to run. But he has not given a green light to that.”
Having said that, Mr. Bush has been active on the campaign trail, effectively building up chits. He has appeared at more than 35 campaign events for such figures as Governors Nikki R. Haley of South Carolina, Susana Martinez of New Mexico, Mary Fallin of Oklahoma and Rick Snyder of Michigan and Senate candidates like Joni Ernst in Iowa, Tom Cotton in Arkansas and Cory Gardner in Colorado.
He has cultivated the family network as well, appearing at an anniversary of his father’s administration held in College Station, Tex., last spring and speaking to many other family supporters at his brother’s presidential library outside Dallas several weeks ago. The family believes the party’s money men have been waiting for Jeb and will give him an instant foundation if he runs, making him an establishment favorite against the insurgent conservative wing of the party.
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“The Bush network is definitely there, and a lot of good feelings about both 41 and 43 and what they stood for — a lot of that translates to Jeb,” said Mark Langdale, former president of the George W. Bush Foundation who saw him in Dallas. “He had a great record in Florida. He’s somebody who could bring a lot of different groups together. He’s a thoughtful guy.”
In an interview that aired on “This Week” on ABC News on Sunday, George P. Bush said that he thought it was “more than likely” that his father would run. “If you had asked me a few years back, I would have said it was less likely,” he said.
Friends and relatives took notice when Jeb Bush told a reporter during a campaign swing for his son that his wife would support a bid should he make one. Jeb Bush Jr. said that was important. “She’s not a big fan of politics and all the ugly things that go along with it, especially as it seems like it’s gotten worse with every passing cycle,” he said. “But she loves Dad and she loves the country, and I think she’ll be supportive.”
Jeb Bush Jr. said his father would make a decision after next week’s midterm elections, informed by experience no other possible candidate has had.
“If there’s one guy out there who knows how to run a presidential campaign, it’s definitely him,” he said. “He’s been around it, really, since 1980. He understands the full-court press.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/27/us/the-bushes-led-by-w-rally-to-make-jeb-45.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSum&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
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George W. Bush likes idea of Jeb Bush vs Hillary Clinton in 2016
BY STEVE HOLLAND
DALLAS Mon Nov 10, 2014
(Reuters) - Never mind the potential for name fatigue. Former U.S. President George W. Bush likes the idea of a 2016 presidential matchup between his Republican brother Jeb Bush and Democrat Hillary Clinton.
In an interview as part of the rollout of a book he has written about his father, former President George H.W. Bush, Bush said he is urging Jeb to try to make it three Bush presidents.
Jeb Bush, 61, is a former two-term governor of Florida who is considering entering the Republican presidential nomination race for 2016 and says he'll make up his mind by year's end.
"He's had the experience necessary to be president. He understands what it means to be a leader. He can appeal to different voter groups in an attractive way," George W. Bush told Reuters. "He's got vision," said Bush, adding, that if Jeb decides to run, "I'm all in" with helping him.
Any concerns Americans might have about a third president named Bush would be tempered by the presence of Hillary Clinton in the race, since her husband, Bill Clinton, served two terms as president, said Bush.
"There are some people that’ll say there’s no way I’m going to vote for somebody with that name," said Bush. "Of course if he were to run against Hillary Clinton then I think the name issue would somewhat dissipate and then people would pick which one would be the leader. But neither one of them has declared and I really don’t know if Jeb is going to run."
Hillary Clinton, who lost the Democratic presidential nomination in 2008 and went on to serve as President Barack Obama's secretary of state from 2009 to 2013, is favored to win the party's nomination if she tries again for the White House. She has said she will make up her mind early next year.
BUSH'S POPULARITY IMPROVES
In the interview, conducted on Friday at the George W. Bush presidential library in Dallas, the former president, 68, was more willing to talk about current events than he has been in the years since he left the White House in early 2009.
He expressed concern about the rise of the Islamic State militant group in Iraq and Syria and said he backs Obama's goal of destroying the group.
"I'm hopeful that it works. If it doesn't the administration is going to need to adjust," Bush said.
The former president was relaxed and at ease with his place in history. He left office with a 34 percent approval rating from Americans weary of the Iraq war he launched in 2003 and struggling under a collapsing economy.
Now, as many former presidents experience, he is looked on more fondly. A Gallup poll last June said he was viewed favorably by 53 percent of Americans.
Bush shrugged when asked about his improved image.
"There’s a long reach to history and people will analyze the decisions I made for a long time coming, and it will be in context with other presidents and other decisions," he said.Sticking to his pledge not to criticize Obama, Bush said the only thing that surprised him about Republican victories in last week's midterm elections was how many there were.
As far as Obama's struggles in his sixth year in office, Bush said Republican President Ronald Reagan had similarly crushing midterm results in 1986. Bush did not mention the thumping he suffered in the 2006 elections in his own sixth year in office, when Democrats captured control of Congress.
"I have a theory that after six years or seven years or eight years they (voters) kind of get tired of you no matter who are you. And given all the exposure a president gets these days people begin to say, well, when's the next person going to show up? It was certainly my case. And presidents shouldn't take that personally," he said.
The book, "41 - A Portrait of My Father," is a heartfelt tribute to his 90-year-old father, who is confined to a wheelchair and whose memory, Bush writes, has faded.
He charts the elder Bush's career from Texas oilman to Republican president who considered not seeking re-election in 1992 because of the toil on his family. He describes how his father was believed to be on his death bed with pneumonia two years ago, but survived and went on a parachute jump for his 90th birthday.
But the book is revealing about George W. Bush himself. Bush, who published a memoir called "Decision Points" in 2010, again defends his controversial war in Iraq, pushing back against critics who feel he had a go-it-alone strategy, noting that he assembled a substantial coalition against Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein in 2003, just like his father did against Saddam in 1990-91.
"For the sake of our security and the Iraqi people, I hope we will do what it takes to defeat ISIS and allow Iraq's democratic government a chance to succeed," he writes.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/10/us-usa-georgewbush-idUSKCN0IU1KC20141110
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JEB BUSH PUSHES AMNESTY, MORE HIGH-TECH VISAS AT EDUCATION CONFERENCE
by TONY LEE 22 Apr 2014
At a prominent conference of education innovators, Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is considering a 2016 presidential run, called for more guest worker programs and a path to amnesty for all of the country's illegal immigrants.
Speaking at what is known as the "Davos in the Desert" event in Scottsdale, Arizona, on Monday evening, Bush said the United States needed "robust guest worker programs" and an expansion of H1-B visas for the high-tech industry," even though the notion that there is a shortage of American high-tech workers has been called a myth. He also called for a "tough but fair path to legalized status" for all of the country's illegal immigrants and an end to immigration quotas for countries.
Bush said that it was not an "American value to have 12-13 million people living in the shadows" and spoke about the need to protect borders and sanction companies that may hire illegal immigrants.
He asserted that the "rags to riches rate" in the country is only four percent and that the American Dream is being replaced with "stickiness at both ends," as those born either wealthy or poor are likely to remain so while the middle class feels the squeeze.
Bush has previously called illegal immigration "an act of love" and said the issue "shouldn't rile people up." Establishment Republican guru Karl Rove even conceded that Jeb Bush was not artful in those remarks. At the conference, which was co-hosted by Arizona State University and GSV Advisors, Bush made no reference to those prior comments, though he has previously defended them.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/21/Jeb-Bush-Pushes-Amnesty-More-High-Tech-Visas-at-Davos-in-the-Desert-Conference
Jeb will be VERY happy about Obama pushing Amnesty thru :(
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Conservative leaders gang up to block Jeb Bush, say he opposes Reaganism
BY PAUL BEDARD | DECEMBER 1, 2014
Conservative leaders who had a hand in key Republican victories including Ronald Reagan’s presidency, the Contract with America and the birth of the Tea Party, are ganging up to oppose a Jeb Bush presidential bid, declaring him easier to beat than Bob Dole or John McCain.
“I don’t know of any conservatives who are supporting him,” said Richard Viguerie, chairman of ConservativeHQ.com.
“Jeb is a very good moderate Democrat,” added top-rated talk radio host Mark Levin. “He's very boring. He doesn't elicit excitement and energy outside a very small circle of wealthy corporatists and GOP Beltway operatives. Time to move on.”
The criticism of Bush, a media darling and leading centrist GOP potential presidential candidate, took off when Phyllis Schlafly updated her 50-year-old conservative manifesto, A Choice Not an Echo, with a slap at Bush.
In her latest revision, provided to the Washington Examiner, she wrote: “Do you get the message that the media buildup for Jeb Bush has begun and that the 2016 Republican National Convention may nominate another establishment loser, the next one in line? But it doesn’t have to be.”
Many conservatives are critical of Bush’s support for Common Core educational standards and immigration reform.
But his biggest hurdle may be his last name.
“The objection so many Reaganites have to another Bush is because he is another Bush,” said Reagan biographer Craig Shirley. “He, too, has an alarming belief in centralized authority. From the standpoint of history, the Bush family got their start in 1980 opposing Reagan and Reaganism, as they continue to do today.”
“We just don’t trust him,” said Viguerie, who favors Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence and Sens. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. “Conservatives are going to be very, very critical of Jeb, not only for the sins of the father and brother, but also for his own views.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/conservative-leaders-gang-up-to-block-jeb-bush-say-he-opposes-reaganism/article/2556792
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“Jeb is a very good moderate Democrat,” added top-rated talk radio host Mark Levin. “He's very boring. He doesn't elicit excitement and energy outside a very small circle of wealthy corporatists and GOP Beltway operatives. Time to move on.”
Many conservatives are critical of Bush’s support for Common Core educational standards and immigration reform.
THis is pretty true. HOWEVER, Jeb can definitely win the nomination. He might get 20% of the vote, maybe 25%. And the other 75% of the party that wants a conservative will have to split up the vote. Then, FOX news will tell them that a RINO can really get elected, just like in 08 and 2012. Hopefully, they'll ignore the pundits and choose a TRUE conservative.
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THis is pretty true. HOWEVER, Jeb can definitely win the nomination. He might get 20% of the vote, maybe 25%. And the other 75% of the party that wants a conservative will have to split up the vote. Then, FOX news will tell them that a RINO can really get elected, just like in 08 and 2012. Hopefully, they'll ignore the pundits and choose a TRUE conservative.
The lying liar with the fib of the day.
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Jeb Bush nearing decision whether to run for president in 2016
Published December 02, 2014
FoxNews.com
Speaking at the Wall Street Journal CEO Council Dinner Monday, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said he is nearing a decision whether to run for president in 2016.
"I'm thinking about running for president and will make up my mind in short order," Bush said. "I do not know the exact timeline, (but) it will be the same decision making process I've always had."
Bush laid out his blueprint that could serve as his 2016 campaign platform.
Bush said his priorities include an "all-in" energy policy that expands the use of the country's natural resources, a reduction in business regulations, a simpler tax code, an "economically driven" overhaul of the immigration system and a transformation of the nation's education system, the Wall Street Journal reported.
His education platform would better serve the needs of individual children and break up "government-run monopolies" of local school districts, he explained.
He also spoke of his support for higher academic standards and for testing to see if students are meeting them.
Bush also remarked on Congress's potential showdown over the federal budget. He urged Congress to make compromises to pass legislation and take the focus off trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act.
Bush says he disagrees with Obama's decision to protect nearly five million illegal immigrants from deportation, but said Republicans should take the lead on the issue.
Bush said he will make his decision in "short order" and will need to do "a lot of soul searching to make that determination."
"I don't know if Id' be a good candidate or bad," Bush said. "I know a Republican can win, whether it's me or somebody else."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/02/jeb-bush-nearing-decision-whether-to-run-for-president-in-2016/?intcmp=latestnews
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Jeb Bush nearing decision whether to run for president in 2016
Published December 02, 2014
FoxNews.com
Speaking at the Wall Street Journal CEO Council Dinner Monday, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said he is nearing a decision whether to run for president in 2016.
"I'm thinking about running for president and will make up my mind in short order," Bush said. "I do not know the exact timeline, (but) it will be the same decision making process I've always had."
Bush laid out his blueprint that could serve as his 2016 campaign platform.
Bush said his priorities include an "all-in" energy policy that expands the use of the country's natural resources, a reduction in business regulations, a simpler tax code, an "economically driven" overhaul of the immigration system and a transformation of the nation's education system, the Wall Street Journal reported.
His education platform would better serve the needs of individual children and break up "government-run monopolies" of local school districts, he explained.
He also spoke of his support for higher academic standards and for testing to see if students are meeting them.
Bush also remarked on Congress's potential showdown over the federal budget. He urged Congress to make compromises to pass legislation and take the focus off trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act.
Bush says he disagrees with Obama's decision to protect nearly five million illegal immigrants from deportation, but said Republicans should take the lead on the issue.
Bush said he will make his decision in "short order" and will need to do "a lot of soul searching to make that determination."
"I don't know if Id' be a good candidate or bad," Bush said. "I know a Republican can win, whether it's me or somebody else."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/02/jeb-bush-nearing-decision-whether-to-run-for-president-in-2016/?intcmp=latestnews
I think if Jeb runs he can win...I would vote for him over Hillary...he's the only Republican who isn't crazy..he could win....if the Tea Party and other conservative factions in the party doesn't tear him to pieces like they did Romney...also it will come down to who the public is most tired of.....the Bushes or the Clintons?
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I think if Jeb runs he can win...I would vote for him over Hillary...he's the only Republican who isn't crazy..he could win....if the Tea Party and other conservative factions in the party doesn't tear him to pieces like they did Romney...also it will come down to who the public is most tired of.....the Bushes or the Clintons?
I hope both he and Hillary sit it out, but I suspect they are both running. And you're right that he could very well be the nominee. Lots of jockeying for big money going on in Texas right now. I'll post an article about it later. Whomever gets the money will have a big advantage in the primaries. That's what propelled Dubya during his first run.
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I hope both he and Hillary sit it out, but I suspect they are both running. And you're right that he could very well be the nominee. Lots of jockeying for big money going on in Texas right now. I'll post an article about it later. Whomever gets the money will have a big advantage in the primaries. That's what propelled Dubya during his first run.
I agree with you about Dubya....the Bushes own Texas and Bush senior is going to call in every favor from his old oil/political buddies...I believe that Hillary has to run because she has an unfulfilled ego that needs to be stroked....I really believe in her heart of hearts she believes she should have been president instead of Bill the country bumpkin...
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I agree with you about Dubya....the Bushes own Texas and Bush senior is going to call in every favor from his old oil/political buddies...I believe that Hillary has to run because she has an unfulfilled ego that needs to be stroked....I really believe in her heart of hearts she believes she should have been president instead of Bill the country bumpkin...
I agree. :o :D
Hillary believes she should have been president instead of Obama and I have to say she likely would have been a better president than what we have seen the past six years.
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I agree. :o :D
Hillary believes she should have been president instead of Obama and I have to say she likely would have been a better president than what we have seen the past six years.
possibly.....I was as surprised as anyone when Obama ran off those 10 straight primary victories after Hillary won Super Tuesday..I think Hillary was let down by her team because they definitely relaxed and thought they had it won after Super Tueday
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possibly.....I was as surprised as anyone when Obama ran off those 10 straight primary victories after Hillary won Super Tuesday..I think Hillary was let down by her team because they definitely relaxed and thought they had it won after Super Tueday
Me too. He really surprised me. He is a lousy leader, but he knows how to win elections.
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Me too. He really surprised me. He is a lousy leader, but he knows how to win elections.
;D
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Jeb is very RINO. Very much. A strong leader, good statesman, but I disagree with many of his policies.
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Jeb is very RINO. Very much. A strong leader, good statesman, but I disagree with many of his policies.
such as?
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such as?
he's all about that amnesty, that amnesty, no wall.
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Jeb Bush says he hopes he would be a good 2016 GOP candidate
Published December 14, 2014
FoxNews.com
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush in a television interview Sunday said a decision is coming soon on whether or not he is going to run for president -- adding that he hopes he would be a good candidate -- while declaring the need to fix a “broken immigration system” in the U.S.
“I have no clue if I’d be a good candidate, I hope I would be,” the Republican told ABC's Miami affiliate WPLG-TV. “I think I could serve well as president, to be honest with you. But I don’t know that either. I think you learn these things as you go along.”
Bush said he was in the process of writing an e-book about his time as governor and that it would come out in the spring. At about the same time, he will make public about 250,000 emails from his time in office, in an effort to promote transparency and to "let people make up their mind."
Bush said going through the material has reminded him that "if you run with big ideas and then you're true to those ideas, and get a chance to serve and implement them and do it with passion and conviction, you can move the needle. ... And that's what we need right now in America."
Bush also accused President Barack Obama of not listening to the American public.
“If he had he might have shifted gears a little bit in these off-year elections,” he said.
Among reforms that the U.S. needs, Bush said “fixing a broken immigration system is critical.”
“If we are going to be young and dynamic and aspirational, we have to control the border,” he said. “Most people that come to this country come for their families, plain and simple. So, they break the law, there should be penalty -- they pay a fine, they should get back of the line, they should learn English, they shouldn’t get government subsidies. They should work. All those things are the price to pay for coming illegally.”
At the same time, Bush warned not to “ascribe evil motives for people wanting to put food on the table for their families.”
“We've got to get beyond this harsh environment that we're in,” he said. “If we just keep arguing amongst ourselves the net result is this country will ultimately this country will be in decline and our children and grandkids won’t nearly have the same opportunities.”
Meanwhile, Slater Bayliss, a longtime Florida-based Bush aide who helps lead a political action committee founded by Bush's sons, met with strategists in Iowa during a late November trip to his native state.
Former Iowa Republican Party Chairman Chuck Larson was among those who discussed with Bayliss the state's political trends, policy issues and how the state might react to a Bush campaign.
"If Jeb Bush decides to run for president, I believe he will be incredibly well received by conservatives in Iowa," Larson said.
Bush is scheduled to give the commencement address Monday at the University of South Carolina during his second visit in recent months to the state that's set to host the South's first presidential primary.
The same week Bayliss met with Iowa Republicans, Bush was named chairman and manager of a new private equity fund, BH Global Aviation. As first reported by Bloomberg, the offshore fund raised $61 million in September.
Bush's team described the investment as an expansion of an existing, and previously reported, private business, which he would review should he run. Most recent presidential candidates, including private equity investor Mitt Romney, formally cut ties with their business interests years before running.
Bush’s announced moves will likely increase speculation about whether he, whose father and brother have already served as President, will declare his own candidacy for the White House. He would be the early favorite of the Republican establishment, although many conservatives criticize his positions on immigration and education.
Earlier this month, Bush told The Wall Street Journal CEO Council annual meeting that he was nearing a decision about whether he would run and said he would make up his mind "in short order."
"I don't know if I'd be a good candidate or bad," Bush said. "I know a Republican can win, whether it's me or somebody else."
Bush told the meeting that his priorities include an "all-in" energy policy that expands the use of the country's natural resources, a reduction in business regulations, a simpler tax code, an "economically driven" overhaul of the immigration system. He also urged Congress to make compromises to pass legislation and take the focus off trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/12/14/jeb-bush-to-release-e-book-emails-from-tenure-as-florida-governor/
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The Tea Party is going to rip Bush a new asshole
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If the big money gets behind him he's going to be extremely competitive in the primaries and caucuses. Only person who would be able to compete money wise is Romney.
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If the big money gets behind him he's going to be extremely competitive in the primaries and caucuses. Only person who would be able to compete money wise is Romney.
Neither Jeb nor Romney are conservative enough for the majority of repub voters. More than 51% of repubs are actually conservative.
BUT if 2008 and 2012 repeat themselves, it'll be a RINO losing to the lib, once again.
I could easily see their $ winning them the nomination, though. it's just how the process works.
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"RINO" blah blah blah. ::) I think "necon" was much more colorful.
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Please FNG NO!!!!
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Please FNG NO!!!!
I don't want him to run either, but I think he's running and will have a very good shot to win the nomination if the big money donors support him.
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No wonder this country is so FNG screwed
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Tell me about. I really hate that a handful of families have dominated national politics for so long.
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"RINO" blah blah blah. ::) I think "necon" was much more colorful.
I understand. By pretending RINOs and neocons aren't real, you don't have to commit to any position or candidate.
You can just jump on bandwagon of whoever is in the lead, and rah-rah them against the Dem that wins. it's cool.
Personally, I don't care about political families - maybe they have advantages that others do not. Imagine Prez Jeb having a tough issue, and being able to call up the amazing mind/experience of G HW Bush, his dad. Or his brother.
I don't mind families, if they're good leaders. Jeb's a good leader. He's just a major liberal on a lot of issues.
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I understand. By pretending RINOs and neocons aren't real, you don't have to commit to any position or candidate.
You can just jump on bandwagon of whoever is in the lead, and rah-rah them against the Dem that wins. it's cool.
Personally, I don't care about political families - maybe they have advantages that others do not. Imagine Prez Jeb having a tough issue, and being able to call up the amazing mind/experience of G HW Bush, his dad. Or his brother.
I don't mind families, if they're good leaders. Jeb's a good leader. He's just a major liberal on a lot of issues.
thats why I like him
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thats why I like him
And that the free shit you get each month will still arrive without interruption.
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thats why I like him
Dems & RINOs really will love Jeb. it's why he could win.
The people on getbig that shit on Libs the loudest, well, they often tend to support RINO candidates. That's the ironic part. They will get a Jeb, who is 75% the same as Hilary. Instead of a Cruz, who is 0% a hilary.
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And that the free shit you get each month will still arrive without interruption.
what about all the free shit you get as well?
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I understand. By pretending RINOs and neocons aren't real, you don't have to commit to any position or candidate.
You can just jump on bandwagon of whoever is in the lead, and rah-rah them against the Dem that wins. it's cool.
Personally, I don't care about political families - maybe they have advantages that others do not. Imagine Prez Jeb having a tough issue, and being able to call up the amazing mind/experience of G HW Bush, his dad. Or his brother.
I don't mind families, if they're good leaders. Jeb's a good leader. He's just a major liberal on a lot of issues.
Shut up troll.
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what about all the free shit you get as well?
I pay for you - remember? when you swipe that blue Bene card in NYS while others who are waiting in line behind you - remember - a thank you to the rest of us would be nice.
And screw Jeb - not voting for him - not now - not ever.
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This is why he is likely running and will be extremely competitive in the primaries and caucuses.
Big Money Swiftly Backing Jeb Bush Presidential Run
Wednesday, 17 Dec 2014
By Elliot Jager
Jeb Bush's announcement that he has "decided to actively explore the possibility of running for president of the United States" has sent center-right bundlers "rushing" in his direction, "draining" financial support for other candidates," The Washington Post reported.
Politico added that "money men" were cheering the Bush statement and that his Republican rivals will now have to "struggle to raise big cash."
Among those purportedly hardest hit by a prospective Bush candidacy are Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, and Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey.
"I think Jeb's decision this early unexpectedly freezes many potential donors and bundlers who were exploring going with Christie or another candidate," said John Horne, an Arkansas financier and Bush family confidante, the Post reported.
The Bush clan has deep political roots in Texas that trump even Perry's connections. Rubio is seen as a Bush protégé and as dependent upon the same donor base, according to Politico.
Christie aides did not comment on how Bush's announcement might affect the New Jersey governor, according to the Post.
If Bush follows through with a presidential run, Rubio will probably run for re-election to the Senate, said Mel Sembler, a Florida-based member of the Bush circle.
Veteran GOP money bundler Fred Malek said prospective Bush backers will hold off supporting anyone else and wait for a call from for the former governor, Politico reported.
Rubio's spokesman, Alex Conant, told Politico that the Florida senator was less dependent on the same Bush donor base than was assumed.
Rubio contributors will convene in January to discuss his next moves.
"Marco's decision on whether to run for president or re-election will be based on where he can best achieve his agenda to restore the American Dream — not on who else might be running," Conant said in a statement, Politico reported.
Top Republican money people prefer that a single establishment candidate emerge as the party's standard bearer in 2016, The New York Times reported earlier this month. At the same time, candidates are looking for donor commitments before deciding whether to announce.
http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/2016-presidency-GOP-bundlers/2014/12/17/id/613498/#ixzz3MBCcoaq8
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Not with my vote. Screw Jeb. Jeb is worse than W for fucks sake!
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Unfortunately he doesn't need your vote (or mine). He needs money. That's how the game is played.
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I pay for you - remember? when you swipe that blue Bene card in NYS while others who are waiting in line behind you - remember - a thank you to the rest of us would be nice.
And screw Jeb - not voting for him - not now - not ever.
hahah...funny...but I wonder how you got through Law School ??? ??? ???....how many GOVERNMENT LOANS DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE>>>and how much did you borrow and not pay back??? ???
YEP>>>I THOUGHT SO>>>>FREE SHIT
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hahah...funny...but I wonder how you got through Law School ??? ??? ???....how many GOVERNMENT LOANS DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE>>>and how much did you borrow and not pay back??? ???
YEP>>>I THOUGHT SO>>>>FREE SHIT
Non e - now eat your free cheese you welfare eBT Obama slave
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If this guy gets the nomination, I'm staying home. I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils anymore. I'm not voting for Rinos anymore. Republicans either run a guy who is qualified and principled or I stay home. Period. No more Royal families. No more Bush's, no more Clinton's, no more Obama's either. I will never vote for anyone in any of these families again. They had their turn.
I urge other Republican's to do the same. The Republican establishment will never learn their lesson until we refuse to let them get away with being dishonest, incompetent liberal ass kissers.
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Non e - now eat your free cheese you welfare eBT Obama slave
so you PAID your entire way through law school without taking loans?...thats not believable...
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He's about to go all in.
Jeb Bush, in Boost to 2016 Bid, Resigns From Barclays
Thursday, 18 Dec 2014
By Drew MacKenzie
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has cleared the way to a White House run by resigning his position at Barclays bank.
The potential Republican presidential candidate will be leaving his job as a paid adviser to the institution on Dec. 31, according to Politico, citing a Financial Times report.
The Times' report is headlined, "Jeb Bush’s web of interests face scrutiny as he explores presidential bid."
In 2012, GOP nominee Mitt Romney came under close examination for his business dealings while working at Bain Capital, a buyout firm, Politico reported.
Earlier this week, Bush took his most definitive step yet toward running for president, announcing plans to "actively explore" a campaign and form a new political operation allowing him to raise money for like-minded Republicans.
In a holiday message posted on Bush's Facebook page and Twitter account, the son and brother of past Republican presidents said he discussed the "future of our nation" and a potential bid for the White House with members of his family over the Thanksgiving holiday.
"As a result of these conversations and thoughtful consideration of the kind of strong leadership I think America needs, I have decided to actively explore the possibility of running for president of the United States," Bush wrote.
http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/barclays-bain-capital-presidency-republicans/2014/12/18/id/613813/#ixzz3MHBZpRps
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Is there anyone that is excited about this guy running?
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Is there anyone that is excited about this guy running?
I'm not, but it looks inevitable at this point.
He will have to make a believer out of me. Even though I don't want any more Clintons or Bushes serving as president, I am interested to hear what he brings to the table.
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I'm not, but it looks inevitable at this point.
He will have to make a believer out of me. Even though I don't want any more Clintons or Bushes serving as president, I am interested to hear what he brings to the table.
Son. I am disappoint.
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Son. I am disappoint.
beach bum /dos equis is doing what he always does. He pretends to be unaware of all the lib shit a candidate does... turns a blind eye... then will sit there and agree with Mitt that he's "severely conservative".
So when he pretends "Oh, I'm truly interested in learning what Jeb's positions on issues are", he's fibbing. He's pretending the very liberal statements on many issues, but Jeb, pointed out and linked on getbig, never caught his eye. "We will have to see what Jeb says in 2015 in order to decide his position on issues"... No, you look at 2014, 2013, 2012, etc, to predict what this man will do in office. The "severely conservative" mitt turned shitbag liberal on amnesty and minumum wage, 5 minutes after losing the election. Does anyone really believe his 2012 position on these issues, was his ACTUAL position? LOL!
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beach bum /dos equis is doing what he always does. He pretends to be unaware of all the lib shit a candidate does... turns a blind eye... then will sit there and agree with Mitt that he's "severely conservative".
So when he pretends "Oh, I'm truly interested in learning what Jeb's positions on issues are", he's fibbing. He's pretending the very liberal statements on many issues, but Jeb, pointed out and linked on getbig, never caught his eye. "We will have to see what Jeb says in 2015 in order to decide his position on issues"... No, you look at 2014, 2013, 2012, etc, to predict what this man will do in office. The "severely conservative" mitt turned shitbag liberal on amnesty and minumum wage, 5 minutes after losing the election. Does anyone really believe his 2012 position on these issues, was his ACTUAL position? LOL!
Mitt will say anything to get elected
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Mitt will say anything to get elected
Hilarious - you voted for gaybama when he said anything in 2008 to get elected and cried at his eklection yet hold Romney to a different standard because he is not gay and white.
you got severe race issues bro
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Hilarious - you voted for gaybama when he said anything in 2008 to get elected and cried at his eklection yet hold Romney to a different standard because he is not gay and white.
you got severe race issues bro
I don';t know where your hysterical analysis comes from....Obama has basically lived up to all his campaign promises...the only one that comes to mind that he has not fulfilled is closing Guantanomo Bay. Other than that he has basically tried to do so in good faith....
being white has nothing to do with it....a liar is a liar....and Romney is a liar..plain and simple...even the Tea Party knows this
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Hilarious - you voted for gaybama when he said anything in 2008 to get elected and cried at his eklection yet hold Romney to a different standard because he is not gay and white.
you got severe race issues bro
33/soul,
I think the thing is that Obama was the #1 most liberal senator, and promised to bring some liberal-ass healthcare for everyone, he promised a welfare state. He wore the liberal t-shirt.
Mitt, on the other hand, hurts republicans WORSE by taking that slot - he wins the nomination, and he's secretly a liberal. I mean, obama is a lib, and repubs know not to vote for him. But Mitt? He claimed to be severely conservvative, he took the nomination away from a Bachmann or someone that would actually act like a conservative - thus ensuring liberal rule, no matter who wins.
I mean, at least the bottle of rat poison has the skull and crossbones on it. But when they put the poison in a nice candy wrapper - that's what mitt was, politically. Yes, obama is full of shit, but he has a (D) next to his name, and eveyrone knows what comes with that. But Mitt? lifetime lib that suddenly got conservative to run for prez, then immediately reverts to being a lib.
And NOW? Now it's 2016 and again, he's going to act like he's a conservative, and idiots are going to repeat it/believe it. You'll have beach bum and other cheerleaders sayin "wow, I've never looked at mitt's positions, but yearh, he's pretty conservative if you look at his 2016 promises..."
LOL, it's almost comical at this point.
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33/soul,
I think the thing is that Obama was the #1 most liberal senator, and promised to bring some liberal-ass healthcare for everyone, he promised a welfare state. He wore the liberal t-shirt.
Mitt, on the other hand, hurts republicans WORSE by taking that slot - he wins the nomination, and he's secretly a liberal. I mean, obama is a lib, and repubs know not to vote for him. But Mitt? He claimed to be severely conservvative, he took the nomination away from a Bachmann or someone that would actually act like a conservative - thus ensuring liberal rule, no matter who wins.
I mean, at least the bottle of rat poison has the skull and crossbones on it. But when they put the poison in a nice candy wrapper - that's what mitt was, politically. Yes, obama is full of shit, but he has a (D) next to his name, and eveyrone knows what comes with that. But Mitt? lifetime lib that suddenly got conservative to run for prez, then immediately reverts to being a lib.
And NOW? Now it's 2016 and again, he's going to act like he's a conservative, and idiots are going to repeat it/believe it. You'll have beach bum and other cheerleaders sayin "wow, I've never looked at mitt's positions, but yearh, he's pretty conservative if you look at his 2016 promises..."
LOL, it's almost comical at this point.
and as for race, 40% of whites voted for Obama....they wanted the ACA and "free stuff" as well
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and as for race, 40% of whites voted for Obama....they wanted the ACA and "free stuff" as well
ah yes, the 135%ers.
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Son. I am disappoint.
I'm not going to sit home on election day, so I want to know what everyone is bringing to the table.
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I'm not going to sit home on election day, so I want to know what everyone is bringing to the table.
don't think too much..just vote for Hillary or Jeb...everyone else is just a sideshow and to appease the extreme wings of each party ;D
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don't think too much..just vote for Hillary or Jeb...everyone else is just a sideshow and to appease the extreme wings of each party ;D
You would make a perfect serf
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don't think too much..just vote for Hillary or Jeb...everyone else is just a sideshow and to appease the extreme wings of each party ;D
Extreme WINS, though. Reagan ran very conservative, he won. Bill Clinton was a lib, he won. Bush appealed to the base, he won. Obama was the #1 most liberal senator, he won.
This bullshit about "centrist candidates" mostly comes from people propping up the Romneys, mccains, kerrys and Doles of the world.
You want to win? You LIGHT UP that base. They were standing in long cold lines for 8 hours to vote EARLY for obama - that's the base. And in 2010, they were marching to DC to rally against obama - that was the base.
it's all about that base, bout that base, no middle. Remember that.
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don't think too much..just vote for Hillary or Jeb...everyone else is just a sideshow and to appease the extreme wings of each party ;D
I doubt Republicans will nominate an extremist. Cannot say the same about Democrats because they nominated Obama and are trying to anoint Warren (who sounds like Obama in a skirt).
In terms of a sideshow, only one who brings that is Biden.
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I doubt Republicans will nominate an extremist. Cannot say the same about Democrats because they nominated Obama and are trying to anoint Warren (who sounds like Obama in a skirt).
In terms of a sideshow, only one who brings that is Biden.
Extremists WIN.
romney, mccain = moderates. And they both lost.
Obama = #1 ranked liberal in Senate. And he won easily. Twice.
The LAST things dems want is a straight-talking Cruz running. They love romney, they love mccain. Soft middle of road candidates that can't get the base out of bed to vote. The base voted Bush 2x. They didn't bother in 2008 and 2012.
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I doubt Republicans will nominate an extremist. Cannot say the same about Democrats because they nominated Obama and are trying to anoint Warren (who sounds like Obama in a skirt).
In terms of a sideshow, only one who brings that is Biden.
I agree that Biden is a sideshow...but you know what?...I credit him with saving Obama's presidency.....eveyone forgets Obama was on the ropes big time.....he had lost the first debate to Mitt.....polls showed he was going to lose.....and people were perplexed about how Obama could look so bad during the debate....but Biden turned things around and got the momentum back when he won his debate with Paul Ryan overwhemingly....that stopped the bleeding.....
After that, all the newspapers talked about was how well Biden did........and afterwards Obama got his footing back and destroyed Mit in the second debate....
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I agree that Biden is a sideshow...but you know what?...I credit him with saving Obama's presidency.....eveyone forgets Obama was on the ropes big time.....he had lost the first debate to Mitt.....polls showed he was going to lose.....and people were perplexed about how Obama could look so bad during the debate....but Biden turned things around and got the momentum back when he won his debate with Paul Ryan overwhemingly....that stopped the bleeding.....
After that, all the newspapers talked about was how well Biden did........and afterwards Obama got his footing back and destroyed Mit in the second debate....
Biden didn't win any debate. He was terrible. And people vote the top of the ticket, so even if we assume he did win the debate, it had a negligible impact on the election.
Obama destroyed Romney in a debate?? Geeze Louise you really do drink the Kool-Aid. Obama is a terrible debater. And when you look at the clips, Romney was right and Obama was wrong. Repeatedly.
But your responses demonstrate how the man got elected twice.
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Biden didn't win any debate. He was terrible.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/170518/polls-divided-winner-veep-debate-biden-easily-takes-undecided-vote
Repubs thought Ryan won. Libs thought Biden won.
And "undecideds" thought Biden won.
So while there was no clear winner, Ryan was the fresh face and didn't do much to impress. If anything, he showed that he'd allow a drunk uncle Joe to walk all over him. Good luck starting down Putin, if you have to step into presidency, if you can't even put a lying, rambling mess like Biden in his place.
you put Rick perry in that VP debate, and he's smacking Job Biden out of his chair. You put cruz in that seat,and he doesn't look shaky, chugging water nonstop. Ryan was overwhelmed in 2012. Remember him washing already-clean dishes? Ugh.
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Biden didn't win any debate. He was terrible. And people vote the top of the ticket, so even if we assume he did win the debate, it had a negligible impact on the election.
Obama destroyed Romney in a debate?? Geeze Louise you really do drink the Kool-Aid. Obama is a terrible debater. And when you look at the clips, Romney was right and Obama was wrong. Repeatedly.
But your responses demonstrate how the man got elected twice.
oh wow..you are totally WRONG....Romney won the first debate obviously but Obama destroyed him in the second debate......hands down...and yes I will agree that Obama is not that great a debater....I really think Obama doesn't like to be challenged at all......and sorry but Biden handed Paul Ryan his head.....no Kool aid at all.....and of course people vote the top of the ticket...but had Biden lost that debate I really think Obama would have lost...the momentum for the GOP ticket would have been too much
Also Romney ran away from his biggest achievement......UNIVERS AL HEALTHCARE
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oh wow..you are totally WRONG....Romney won the first debate obviously but Obama destroyed him in the second debate......hands down...and yes I will agree that Obama is not that great a debater....I really think Obama doesn't like to be challenged at all......and sorry but Biden handed Paul Ryan his head.....no Kool aid at all.....and of course people vote the top of the ticket...but had Biden lost that debate I really think Obama would have lost...the momentum for the GOP ticket would have been too much
Also Romney ran away from his biggest achievement......UNIVERS AL HEALTHCARE
I think we define winning differently. I think a person wins a debate when they are right on the issues. Not when they shout the other person down. Insult them. Repeatedly disrespect them with body language. Speak louder or over the other person.
The fact is Romney was right. That's why so many people are encouraging him to run again.
He didn't run away from Romenycare. He said it was something that worked at the state level, but would not work at the national level. I understood his position. For example, we have employer mandated coverage in Hawaii that works at the state level, but would be a disaster on the national level.
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I think we define winning differently. I think a person wins a debate when they are right on the issues. Not when they shout the other person down. Insult them. Repeatedly disrespect them with body language. Speak louder or over the other person.
The fact is Romney was right. That's why so many people are encouraging him to run again.
He didn't run away from Romenycare. He said it was something that worked at the state level, but would not work at the national level. I understood his position. For example, we have employer mandated coverage in Hawaii that works at the state level, but would be a disaster on the national level.
WOW...HE DIDN'T RUN FROM ROMNEYCARE?????????????????
and also debating is doing what it takes to win...Biden's been in government for years he knew the issues better than Pyan and he knew how to behave in order to win....I agree that Biden was laughing, smirking and shaking his head whenever Ryan would make a point....but that helped him win and showed confidence
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WOW...HE DIDN'T RUN FROM ROMNEYCARE?????????????????
and also debating is doing what it takes to win...Biden's been in government for years he knew the issues better than Pyan and he knew how to behave in order to win....I agree that Biden was laughing, smirking and shaking his head whenever Ryan would make a point....but that helped him win and showed confidence
No. He stood behind what he did in Massachusetts. He would have run away from Romenycare if he changed his mind about whether it was the right thing to do for his state. I never heard him say that.
Like I said, we have different definitions of winning. But I do think there are a lot of people like you who view form over substance. That's why candidates engage in histrionics. It works, unfortunately.
That's partly why I'm starting to think Cruz will have problems, because he is deadpan, even though he is often right.
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No. He stood behind what he did in Massachusetts. He would have run away from Romenycare if he changed his mind about whether it was the right thing to do for his state. I never heard him say that.
Like I said, we have different definitions of winning. But I do think there are a lot of people like you who view form over substance. That's why candidates engage in histrionics. It works, unfortunately.
That's partly why I'm starting to think Cruz will have problems, because he is deadpan, even though he is often right.
Actually Cruz is not often right......and as for your argument about histrionics, histrionics are okay if its backed by facts....and Biden's were.....
Also I really don't recall Romney standing on top of the mountain and claiming credit for Romneycare.....he was very very quiet in that regard because he didn't want to wake up the Tea Party to the fact that he was actually in bed with Obama on Universal Healthcare..even inn the debate when Obama said the exact same thing Romney didn't counter...he moved to another topic
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Actually Cruz is not often right......and as for your argument about histrionics, histrionics are okay if its backed by facts....and Biden's were.....
Also I really don't recall Romney standing on top of the mountain and claiming credit for Romneycare.....he was very very quiet in that regard because he didn't want to wake up the Tea Party to the fact that he was actually in bed with Obama on Universal Healthcare..even inn the debate when Obama said the exact same thing Romney didn't counter...he moved to another topic
Dude. Obama and Biden were wrong on the facts.
Cruz was right about delaying the implementation of Obamacare. He is right about the size the role of government. He is right about amnesty. But as we have seen, in politics being right doesn't always carry the day.
Romney didn't have to claim credit for Romneycare. He implemented it on his watch. He didn't disavow it. I agree he didn't run on it, but why would he if he didn't believe it was a good national policy?
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I think we define winning differently. I think a person wins a debate when they are right on the issues.
See, this is entirely NOT the point of a debate. I mean, they were pretty set in their positions long before they sat down to debate.
The debate is won/lost, from grade 5 debate team to Presidential Race, based upon who BETTER ARGUES their position on issues.
But from reading your posts, I think it's obvious to all of us that you were never on the debate team ;) lol
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I'm not going to sit home on election day, so I want to know what everyone is bringing to the table.
I respect that but the realist in me thinks he already has a good idea of what Jeb Bush comes to the table.
Even if he was a great candidate that agreed with my point of view, I still wouldn't vote for one of these legacy candidates. We have to nip that shit in the bud ASAP. It simply has to stop.
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I respect that but the realist in me thinks he already has a good idea of what Jeb Bush comes to the table.
Even if he was a great candidate that agreed with my point of view, I still wouldn't vote for one of these legacy candidates. We have to nip that shit in the bud ASAP. It simply has to stop.
it wont...america loves "names".
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Amdre - stop trolling me for cock will you? The pm's you send me are getting retarded
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See, this is entirely NOT the point of a debate. I mean, they were pretty set in their positions long before they sat down to debate.
The debate is won/lost, from grade 5 debate team to Presidential Race, based upon who BETTER ARGUES their position on issues.
But from reading your posts, I think it's obvious to all of us that you were never on the debate team ;) lol
Shut up troll.
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I respect that but the realist in me thinks he already has a good idea of what Jeb Bush comes to the table.
Even if he was a great candidate that agreed with my point of view, I still wouldn't vote for one of these legacy candidates. We have to nip that shit in the bud ASAP. It simply has to stop.
I agree it needs to stop. If I belonged to a particular party, I'd vote in the presidential primary to try and influence the outcome. But I don't vote in presidential primaries.
I doubt we will be able to stop the money machine from selecting the next nominee. If that's the case (and I think it is), I want to know what these guys are claiming they will do in office.
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You guys should see only 5% of the pm's sent to me by people like andreisafag trolling for cock. Its gross
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You guys should see only 5% of the pm's sent to me by people like andreisafag trolling for cock. Its gross
Can't be any worse than what he has posted on the board about having sex with men. :-\
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Can't be any worse than what he has posted on the board about having sex with men. :-\
That is NOTHING compared to what he sends me via pm
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That is NOTHING compared to what he sends me via pm
My condolences.
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That is NOTHING compared to what he sends me via pm
sigh...every time you reach your intellectual limit in a thread you derail the thread by posting nonsense like this...I give you credit for being good at misdirection...it takes the attention away from the fact that you are a goddamn idiot and have no idea what youre talking about
GOOD JOB
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sigh...every time you reach your intellectual limit in a thread you derail the thread by posting nonsense like this...I give you credit for being good at misdirection...it takes the attention away from the fact that you are a goddamn idiot and have no idea what youre talking about
GOOD JOB
Yes or no you want me to post the last pm you sent me?
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Yes or no you want me to post the last pm you sent me?
hahaha.....should I also post all the racist stuff and race-baiting name calling stuff you send me??? :D
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hahaha.....should I also post all the racist stuff and race-baiting name calling stuff you send me??? :D
Go ahead. Nothing I have not posted publicly. Like obama being a welfare pos. Michelle being a yeti And a fat slob?
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What is it with Bill Richardson and him playing this authentic Hispanic card? He tried he same thing with Cruz. Swing and a miss on this one.
MTP: Bill Richardson Takes Incorrect Cheap Shot at Jeb Bush Spanish Fluency
By P.J. Gladnick | December 21, 2014
Sheesh! Talk about a cheap shot.
If former New Mexico governor and Clinton cabinet member Bill Richardson dislikes Jeb Bush, at least criticize him for something plausible. Instead, Richardson took a cheap shot at Jeb Bush on Meet The Press today for supposedly having a poor ability to speak Spanish. Really, Bill? Because the video below of Bush speaking Spanish during an interview with Univision's Jorge Ramos clearly demonstrates a high degree of fluency in that language.
Even if you don't understand much Spanish, you can tell that Jeb Bush can speak that language well. And those who do understand Spanish will also be impressed by his pronunciation which although not totally free of accent can be rated as excellent. Of particular note is the way Bush correctly pronounces word sounds of the letter "R" on the tip of his tongue which at least 90% of native English speakers fail to do when speaking in Spanish.
So now that you have seen video proof of Jeb Bush's fluency in Spanish, it makes Richardson's cheap shot claim all the more ridiculous and petty:
CHUCK TODD: Could Jeb Bush do well in New Mexico?
BILL RICHARDSON: Yeah, he's got a Hispanic wife. He speaks a little Spanish, not too good. But I-- I think he--
Exit question: Could Jeb Bush have learned to speak Spanish so fluently if he had been forced to learn that language via Common Core?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2014/12/21/mtp-bill-richardson-takes-incorrect-cheap-shot-jeb-bush-spanish-fluency#sthash.Jxwps63z.dpuf
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I heard someone say Republicans haven't won a presidential election without a Bush on the ticket since 1972. :o
6 Reasons Jeb Bush Will Make a Great President
Tuesday, 23 Dec 2014
By Sean Piccoli
When former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush took to Facebook last week to say he will "actively explore" a White House run in 2016, pundits immediately declared him a contender, pointing to his solid résumé, good temperament, and an unmatched ability to mount a national fundraising and campaign apparatus.
So we know he has the makings of a candidate.
But what kind of 45th president would the son of 41 and the brother of 43 actually be? Here are six points in favor of putting another southern governor named Bush in the Oval Office.
1. He was a popular governor: After letting a former half-term U.S. senator run the country for eight years, Americans may again be ready for someone who actually governed. Bush qualifies. As governor from 1999 to 2007 of one of America’s largest and diverse states, Florida, he presided over the nation's fourth largest economy.
2. He's electable: Bush won, and was returned to office, in a politically dynamic state that has trended Republican in recent cycles but remains competitive for Democrats. Crossover appeal helps in Florida, a key swing state in Presidential elections, so Bush’s draw in the Sunshine State could be critical for GOP hopes to win in 2016. Obama won Florida in 2012, but Jeb most assuredly keeps Florida red. Bush already leads other likely 2016 GOP contenders in polls of Florida voters.
3. He's a conservative: However divided the GOP base looks during presidential primaries, Republican voters tend to ultimately close ranks around a candidate with a conservative record who can also appeal to independents and even some Democrats. Though Bush championed a pro-growth agenda of limited government and reducing taxes, he also led several environmental and education initiatives. He is pro-Second Amendment and pro-life.
4. He appeals to Latinos: Bush speaks fluent Spanish and will have the ear of a country with a growing Hispanic electorate. Connections to Hispanic culture run through Bush's personal and professional lives. Bush's wife, Columba, was born in Mexico and is of Mexican descent. The couple lives in Miami — so he's not a Beltway insider — and anyone who has served as Florida governor has addressed the concerns of Hispanics while also recognizing that he speaks for all residents.
5. He's done well out of office: Since returning to private life in 2007, Bush has maintained what the Tampa Bay Times once called a "high-impact low profile" through legal work, banking, fundraising for other GOP candidates, and public advocacy on key issues including education and immigration reform. He doesn't need the presidency, and by not projecting an air of clawing ambition or entitlement to the office, Bush looks more fit than some to occupy it.
6. He's a Bush, but not his brother: What some consider a tarnished political brand after the presidency of George W. Bush is arguably an asset in an era where name recognition matters. Though George W.’s star is rising again as Obama’s foreign policy leads America into new quagmires, Jeb Bush is unique, is focused on policy, and is a consensus builder.
http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/Jeb-Bush-president-qualified-election/2014/12/23/id/614782/#ixzz3Mwp6rZOm
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Rick Perry: Jeb Bush ‘probably the front-runner’ right now
By David Sherfinski - The Washington Times
Wednesday, December 24, 2014
Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who is openly preparing for a possible run at the White House in 2016, said it’s former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush who probably has the edge on the field of possible contenders right now.
“Jeb’s a good man, a good friend. He was a good governor. You know, him getting in the race, I think, helps the field,” Mr. Perry told radio host Hugh Hewitt. “I would suggest to you he’s probably, since he said what he said, he’s probably the front-runner at this particular point in time.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/24/rick-perry-jeb-bush-probably-front-runner-now/#ixzz3MwwtUdAo
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Sounds like a done deal.
Jeb Bush Continues to Resign from Boards as 2016 Run Talk Grows
Thursday, 25 Dec 2014
By Elliot Jager
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush appears to be shedding his corporate directorships after having announced that he is exploring a run for the presidency in 2016, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Bush will step down from the board of Tenet Healthcare Corp. effective Dec. 31, the hospital announced on Wednesday. The company does not plan to fill the vacancy.
For now, Bush remains a board member at Rayonier Inc., Empower Software Solutions, and CorMatrix, according to the Journal.
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Earlier this month, Bush took leave of a lucrative directorship at Barclays, The Financial Times reported.
Bush left office in 2003 with a net worth of $1.3 million. He went on to earn $3.2 million from directorships and additional cash by delivering 100 speeches since 2007 at $50,000 per engagement, according to The New York Times.
In addition, he holds private equity interests in a number of venture capital companies, according to the FT.
http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/jeb-bush-resigns-boards/2014/12/25/id/614928/#ixzz3MwyEHPh2
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Jeb will be a fine leader, he will keep us from any big messes.
BUT he has left-leaning policies, particularly on issues like immigration. But with so many RINOs willing to settle for the "middle", well, he could easily get that nomination.
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Sounds like a done deal.
Jeb Bush Continues to Resign from Boards as 2016 Run Talk Grows
Thursday, 25 Dec 2014
By Elliot Jager
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush appears to be shedding his corporate directorships after having announced that he is exploring a run for the presidency in 2016, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Bush will step down from the board of Tenet Healthcare Corp. effective Dec. 31, the hospital announced on Wednesday. The company does not plan to fill the vacancy.
For now, Bush remains a board member at Rayonier Inc., Empower Software Solutions, and CorMatrix, according to the Journal.
Special: Biblical Prophecy: Will Jesus Ever Return?
Earlier this month, Bush took leave of a lucrative directorship at Barclays, The Financial Times reported.
Bush left office in 2003 with a net worth of $1.3 million. He went on to earn $3.2 million from directorships and additional cash by delivering 100 speeches since 2007 at $50,000 per engagement, according to The New York Times.
In addition, he holds private equity interests in a number of venture capital companies, according to the FT.
http://www.Newsmax.com/Newsfront/jeb-bush-resigns-boards/2014/12/25/id/614928/#ixzz3MwyEHPh2
One step closer.
With eye on 2016, Jeb Bush resigns from all boards
By Tom Hamburger and Lyndsey Layton
December 31, 2014
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush, moving closer to a possible presidential run, has resigned all of his corporate and nonprofit board memberships, including with his own education foundation, his office said late Wednesday night.
He also resigned as a paid adviser to a for-profit education company that sells online courses to public university students in exchange for a share of their tuition payments.
Bush’s New Year’s Eve disclosure, coming in an e-mail from an aide to The Washington Post, culminated a string of moves he has made in recent days to shed business interests that have enriched him since leaving office in 2007. The aide said the resignations had been made “effective today.”
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/with-eye-on-2016-jeb-bush-severs-ties-to-most-firms/2014/12/31/938b3662-9054-11e4-a900-9960214d4cd7_story.html
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A prediction: he will be the nominee. Bah!
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I have no idea at this point, but he is going to be pretty strong, particularly if the big money gets behind him.
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A prediction: he will be the nominee. Bah!
Agreed....Daddy is already getting all his rich friends lined up to donate and support Jeb......he's a shoo-in barring any crazy revelations
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No one is a shoe-in this early in the process.
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Jeb Bush filing paperwork Tuesday for new PAC, in big step toward 2016 bid
By Serafin Gómez
Published January 06, 2015
FoxNews.com
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EXCLUSIVE: Jeb Bush plans to file paperwork on Tuesday to launch a new organization allowing him to raise and spend money for political activities, Fox News has learned, in the former Florida governor's most direct step yet toward a 2016 presidential bid.
The new leadership political action committee will be called the Right to Rise PAC.
"We will celebrate success and risk taking, protect liberty, cherish free enterprise, strengthen our national defense, embrace the energy revolution, fix our broken and obsolete immigration system, and give all children a better future by transforming our education system through choice, high standards and accountability," a source close to Bush said, describing the PAC's mission.
In addition, the Right to Rise PAC likely would be used to pay the expenses of a burgeoning staff, as well as to finance polling and Bush's trips across the country as a possible 2016 contender. It would effectively serve as a prelude to a formal presidential campaign should he take that step.
The formation of this leadership PAC -- as well as a separate super PAC by Bush supporters -- could be used to flush other Republican potential aspirants out of the 2016 field, by flexing the formidable financial strength of the former governor's donor network.
Fundraising events already are being planned in Florida, the New York area, and Washington, D.C., in the next few weeks, and meetings with major donors are being organized.
As reported Monday by Fox News' Carl Cameron, Bush is holding a private Greenwich, Conn., fundraiser on Wednesday with relatives. The money raised at this event will go to his Right to Rise PAC.
A source close to Bush told Fox News the Right to Rise PAC, which has been announced by the former governor on Twitter, also would support candidates across the country "who share our optimistic, conservative, positive vision for helping every American get ahead."
"We support candidates who embrace policies that create strong economic growth for all and more opportunity for every American to create a better life for themselves and their loved ones," the source said.
Bush announced last month in a Facebook post that he would "actively explore" a 2016 bid and eventually form a PAC. He has since stepped down from corporate boards and disentangled himself from other financial investments as he considers a run.
By formally establishing the leadership PAC, Bush joins other potential GOP candidates who also have taken that step: including fellow Floridian Sen. Marco Rubio, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, outgoing Texas Gov. Rick Perry and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/01/06/jeb-bush-filing-paperwork-tuesday-for-leadership-pac-in-big-step-toward-2016/?intcmp=latestnews
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ZUCKERMAN: JEB WILL BE GOP NOMINEE IN 2016
by IAN HANCHETT10 Jan 2015
US News and World Report Chairman and Editor-in-Chief and publisher of The New York Daily News, Mort Zuckerman predicted that Jeb Bush will win the 2016 GOP nomination on Friday’s “McLaughlin Group.”
After fellow panelist Eleanor Clift predicted that Jeb will “sew up the major GOP donors by Spring,” Zuckerman went one step further, declaring “Jeb Bush will be the Republican nominee for the presidency.”
http://www.breitbart.com/?p=610500
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Zuckerman had a nice prediction about Rob Portman in 2012 too.
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Thune 2012.
Bachmann 2012.
Huntsman 2012!
Perry 2012... it's gonna be the ticket. Without a doubt.
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You, as a clinton voter, might be upset that I was supporting 4 republicans there.
Sorry about that.
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You, as a clinton voter, might be upset that I was supporting 4 republicans there.
Sorry about that.
So I probably will vote dem. i'd love to see Obama choose a Wes Clark for a running mate, or a Jim Webb, possibly more likely, for strong military and defense credibility.
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that was 2008.
In 2015, I'm a motherfccking republican. And you're a RINO. That's how things are today.
I'd impeach obama, you would not. I'd support cruz, you'd support romney or jeb.
The next election will be held in 2016, not 2008.
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that was 2008.
In 2015, I'm a motherfccking republican. And you're a RINO. That's how things are today.
I'd impeach obama, you would not. I'd support cruz, you'd support romney or jeb.
The next election will be held in 2016, not 2008.
Ok you pathological liar. Quote me calling myself a Republican. You are obviously too stupid to even know what a "RINO" is. lol
In 2015, you are what you were in 2010 and 2012 (and every other year): a lying liberal lackey.
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Ok you pathological liar. Quote me calling myself a Republican. You are obviously too stupid to even know what a "RINO" is. lol
In 2015, you are what you were in 2010 and 2012 (and every other year): a lying liberal lackey.
If you're not a republican, then you're part of the problem. Sorry, but that's just the truth. Either you are 100% against this Obama/Boehnner/Reid/Mccain bullshit cycle, or you support it. No other way around it.
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If you're not a republican, then you're part of the problem. Sorry, but that's just the truth. Either you are 100% against this Obama/Boehnner/Reid/Mccain bullshit cycle, or you support it. No other way around it.
So no quote with me calling myself a Republican? Exposed as the lying liar you are again.
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So no quote with me calling myself a Republican? Exposed as the lying liar you are again.
shit, it's obvious to all here that you're not a republican.
the LAST think you have to worry about it anything thinking you're an (R) lol
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shit, it's obvious to all here that you're not a republican.
the LAST think you have to worry about it anything thinking you're an (R) lol
Ok. So we established that you don't know what a RINO is, that you lied about me calling myself a Republican, and/or that you are too stupid to know what a RINO is. Tracking.
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Agreed....Daddy is already getting all his rich friends lined up to donate and support Jeb......he's a shoo-in barring any crazy revelations
Could be fun to see him and Mitt duke it out. Jeb has trashed Romney's campaign performance in the past.
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Ok. So we established that you don't know what a RINO is, that you lied about me calling myself a Republican, and/or that you are too stupid to know what a RINO is. Tracking.
Oh I know what a rino is. it's a person who hates liberals but subscribes to plenty of their bliefs.
seriously man, do you want things to just keep on being the same, or do you want the govt to stop the outrageous spending?
The ONLY way it changes is with a far-right candidate. That's the only way. Libs and these "middle of road" republicans are going to just keep spending like we have been.
All the trolling and flaming aside, I think we both want a better America. And I'm 100% under the impression that only a canddiate like Cruz, who will radically stop the spending, can do this.
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Could be fun to see him and Mitt duke it out. Jeb has trashed Romney's campaign performance in the past.
I agree....it would a be a nice "battle of the deep pockets" :)
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Oh I know what a rino is. it's a person who hates liberals but subscribes to plenty of their bliefs.
seriously man, do you want things to just keep on being the same, or do you want the govt to stop the outrageous spending?
The ONLY way it changes is with a far-right candidate. That's the only way. Libs and these "middle of road" republicans are going to just keep spending like we have been.
All the trolling and flaming aside, I think we both want a better America. And I'm 100% under the impression that only a canddiate like Cruz, who will radically stop the spending, can do this.
No, RINO literally stands for "Republican in name only." As in someone who claims to be a member of the Republican Party, but in reality is not.
Seriously, how friggin stupid are you? ???
I'm also going to stop asking you why you never tell the truth, because I really believe you are incapable of telling the truth. :-\
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Getting desperate.
Jeb Bush Allies Threaten Wave of Harsh Attacks on Marco Rubio, an Ex-Mentee
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Former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida at La Casa de Esperanza, a community organization and school in Waukesha, Wis., on Monday.
MICHAEL APPLETON FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES
By MAGGIE HABERMAN and MICHAEL BARBARO
NOVEMBER 9, 2015
The cash-rich group aiding Jeb Bush’s White House run has filmed a provocative video casting his rival Marco Rubio as ultimately unelectable because of his hard-line stand against abortion.
That group, which has raised more than $100 million, has asked voters in New Hampshire how they feel about Mr. Rubio’s skipping important votes in the Senate.
And the group’s chief strategist has boasted of his willingness to spend as much as $20 million to damage Mr. Rubio’s reputation and halt his sudden ascent in the polls, according to three people told of the claim.
Seething with anger and alarmed over Mr. Rubio’s rise, aides to Mr. Bush, the former Florida governor, and his allies are privately threatening a wave of scathing attacks on his former protégé in the coming weeks, in a sign of just how anxious they have become about the state of Mr. Bush’s candidacy.
Their looming problem: In trying to undercut Mr. Rubio as unaccomplished and unprepared, Mr. Bush is a flawed messenger. Over the years he has repeatedly, and sometimes lavishly, praised the younger lawmaker, often on camera.
In one of many such tributes, Mr. Bush declared in a 2012 television interview that Mr. Rubio had “the intellectual acumen and the fortitude to be a good president.”
Whether or not the onslaught ever materializes, Mr. Rubio and his team are bracing for it and preparing to counter it by sifting through hours of video footage for instances in which Mr. Bush spoke about Mr. Rubio as an admiring ally, not a political foe.
They are also telegraphing a warning that has already reached many of Mr. Bush’s donors: Such an assault, they argue, would be beneath the dignity of the Bush name. And Mr. Bush should focus on resurrecting his own candidacy, they say, not on trying to tear down Mr. Rubio, who they contend represents the future of the Republican Party.
History suggests that each party’s eventual nominee will emerge from 2015 in one of the top two or three positions, as measured by endorsements, fund-raising and polling.
Some Bush donors, campaign aides and Republican operatives are cautioning Mr. Bush and his staff about the dangers of seeking to wound Mr. Rubio, whose career he assiduously nurtured for years when Mr. Bush was governor and Mr. Rubio was a member of the Florida House of Representatives.
“Given their closeness while governing, I find the whole thing baffling,” said Stuart Stevens, a Republican strategist who oversaw Mitt Romney’s 2012 campaign.
“I seem not to be alone,” Mr. Stevens added. “I don’t see any evidence that it’s working.”
Some supporters of Mr. Bush are publicly urging restraint. “At the end of the day, wisdom dictates that an internecine fight between the two is unnecessary, and potentially damaging to both,” said Anthony Scaramucci, a New York financier and Bush fund-raiser.
Mr. Rubio’s campaign sees a potential benefit: Attacks by Mr. Bush and his allies could engender sympathy for Mr. Rubio, as occurred when Charlie Crist, his Republican rival in the 2010 Senate primary, was perceived as overly hostile to Mr. Rubio.
Those involved in the Bush camp’s discussions about whether to assail Mr. Rubio said that no firm plan or timeline was in place and that their focus could shift to different rivals in the coming weeks.
But the preoccupation with Mr. Rubio is revealing, suggesting not just fury at his challenge to a former mentor, but also a conviction that rivals like Donald J. Trump and Ben Carson have no chance of winning and will collapse in time for Mr. Bush to rise again. Mr. Rubio, the Bush team expects, will remain standing.
For many of Mr. Bush’s longest-serving advisers, Mr. Rubio’s run is a betrayal: Mr. Bush backed Mr. Rubio’s bid for House speaker in Florida and persuaded important donors to endorse him for the Senate. A few of Mr. Bush’s supporters have taken to calling Mr. Rubio “Judas.”
In meetings with donors and allies, Mr. Bush’s top aides have pointed to what they describe as a trove of research on Mr. Rubio that they could unleash.
Any attacks on Mr. Rubio would come primarily from Right to Rise, the “super PAC” that has raised more than $100 million for Mr. Bush. Its top strategist, Mike Murphy, refused to detail its strategy but did not dispute that Mr. Rubio was in its sights.
“Part of running for president is you have to put your big boy pants on and get vetted on the issues, so we know we don’t have a dud candidate running against Hillary Clinton,” he said.
Asked about the multiple videos of Mr. Bush praising Mr. Rubio over the years, Mr. Murphy said of Mr. Rubio: “We all supported him for the Senate. We all support him staying there, because he is far from proving he is ready and experienced enough to be president of the United States in a dangerous time.”
Mr. Murphy’s critique echoed an internal Bush campaign memo outlining Mr. Rubio’s vulnerabilities. Under the headline “Marco is a risky bet,” the memo, which surfaced on Oct. 29, said Mr. Rubio “has never been in charge of anything larger than two dozen people.”
The preparatory work by Right to Rise was described by three people privy to it who insisted on anonymity to preserve their relationships with the group and with the Bush campaign.
Right to Rise held focus groups in New Hampshire shortly after the Oct. 28 Republican debate, in which, among other things, the participants were quizzed about Mr. Rubio’s missed votes on two Republican priorities: cutting federal funding for Planned Parenthood, which carries out abortions, and blocking President Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran. The responses suggested that both could provide potent lines of attack.
In an attempt to blunt Mr. Rubio’s appeal and showcase a potential vulnerability against the Democratic nominee in the general election, Mr. Murphy recently showed some Republicans a video portraying Mr. Rubio as too extreme on abortion. A longtime opponent of abortion rights, Mr. Rubio said in a debate in August that he had “never advocated” laws that would allow abortions, even in cases of rape or incest.
Mr. Murphy has privately said to several people that Right to Rise would be ready to devote up to $20 million to fighting Mr. Rubio, according to several people told of the conversations. Asked about the figure, Mr. Murphy declined to comment.
Aides to Mr. Bush, meanwhile, have grown weary of conflicting advice about how to deal with Mr. Rubio. After the Oct. 28 debate, in which Mr. Bush criticized Mr. Rubio for missing votes, Mr. Bush’s top adviser, Sally Bradshaw, archly noted on a conference call that the very donors accusing Mr. Bush of being too aggressive had previously encouraged Mr. Bush to go after Mr. Rubio.
Many of Mr. Bush’s supporters are eager for political combat.
“I think it’s fair game to point out Marco’s record, or lack thereof,” said Joseph M. Kyrillos Jr., a Republican state senator in New Jersey who is raising money for Mr. Bush. “It’s not below the belt.”
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/10/us/politics/bush-allies-threaten-wave-of-harsh-attacks-on-rubio-an-ex-mentee.html?_r=2&referer=https://www.google.com/
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Jeb appears to be a hater. If he's not going to be the nominee, he's willing to blow all his $ making sure Rubio isn't the nominee either.
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Goodbye. :)
Jeb Bush drops out of White House race
(http://static2.politico.com/dims4/default/45d19a1/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F35%2Fc2%2F9ce3d3054131bc7895d2350b62e1%2F20160220-jeb-bush-3-ap-1160.jpg)
The decision to suspend his campaign comes after the former Florida governor delivered a poor showing in South Carolina.
By ELI STOKOLS
02/20/16
Jeb Bush, unable to muster enthusiasm for his presidential bid beyond the family network that helped him raise a record $160 million, is suspending his campaign following a disappointing finish in South Carolina.
The decision follows a string of underwhelming primary finishes for the former Florida governor, including in New Hampshire where he invested heavily and bet on a massive ground organization but still finished behind Donald Trump, John Kasich and Ted Cruz.
He also took only 2.8 percent of the vote in Iowa’s first in the nation caucuses, despite having outspent his rivals there, too, and campaigned until the very end. In South Carolina on Saturday night, he was on track to finish a distant fourth. His archrival Trump trounced the field with 34 percent of the vote, while Cruz and Rubio were running in a virtual tie with roughly 22 percent.
Thanks to his massive financial advantage, Bush had the organization and infrastructure in place to go deep into this nomination fight. He is on the ballot in 43 states. But he never garnered the popular support to match his backing from much of the GOP’s donor class; and the pressure of losing appears to have become too much.
That pressure came mostly from donors who’ve waited months to see more of a return on their investments. Following New Hampshire, many were out of patience. For weeks, many Bush loyalists have grumbled openly about Right to Rise, the super PAC Bush launched in January and entrusted to long-time confidant Mike Murphy, attacking Rubio, who Bush still calls “a close friend.” While some groused that their money was being used to weaken perhaps the party’s strongest nominee, many others worried about the damage being done to the Bush family legacy.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/breaking-news-jeb-bush-is-suspending-his-presidential-campaign-219564#ixzz40v1xLedu
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Goodbye. :)
Jeb Bush drops out of White House race
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The decision to suspend his campaign comes after the former Florida governor delivered a poor showing in South Carolina.
By ELI STOKOLS
02/20/16
Jeb Bush, unable to muster enthusiasm for his presidential bid beyond the family network that helped him raise a record $160 million, is suspending his campaign following a disappointing finish in South Carolina.
The decision follows a string of underwhelming primary finishes for the former Florida governor, including in New Hampshire where he invested heavily and bet on a massive ground organization but still finished behind Donald Trump, John Kasich and Ted Cruz.
He also took only 2.8 percent of the vote in Iowa’s first in the nation caucuses, despite having outspent his rivals there, too, and campaigned until the very end. In South Carolina on Saturday night, he was on track to finish a distant fourth. His archrival Trump trounced the field with 34 percent of the vote, while Cruz and Rubio were running in a virtual tie with roughly 22 percent.
Thanks to his massive financial advantage, Bush had the organization and infrastructure in place to go deep into this nomination fight. He is on the ballot in 43 states. But he never garnered the popular support to match his backing from much of the GOP’s donor class; and the pressure of losing appears to have become too much.
That pressure came mostly from donors who’ve waited months to see more of a return on their investments. Following New Hampshire, many were out of patience. For weeks, many Bush loyalists have grumbled openly about Right to Rise, the super PAC Bush launched in January and entrusted to long-time confidant Mike Murphy, attacking Rubio, who Bush still calls “a close friend.” While some groused that their money was being used to weaken perhaps the party’s strongest nominee, many others worried about the damage being done to the Bush family legacy.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/breaking-news-jeb-bush-is-suspending-his-presidential-campaign-219564#ixzz40v1xLedu
I thought Jeb would win....boy was I wrong
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I thought Jeb would win....boy was I wrong
I thought he would be the frontrunner. Did not see this coming at the start of the race.
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I'm sure none of us are unhappy about it.
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I thought he would be the frontrunner. Did not see this coming at the start of the race.
Thats what we get for being sensible :-\....its really been a strange year politically
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Thats what we get for being sensible :-\....its really been a strange year politically
I forgot you were torn between Hillary and Bush.
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imagine we're on the cusp of WWIII or a global financial collapse...
Do you want trump (liberal, immature, reactionary) at the wheel?
Or Bush, with generations of successful govt experience? (even if you think Bush2 did a shit job, he did keep the ship afloat)
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imagine we're on the cusp of WWIII or a global financial collapse...
Do you want trump (liberal, immature, reactionary) at the wheel?
Or Bush, with generations of successful govt experience? (even if you think Bush2 did a shit job, he did keep the ship afloat)
Problem is that we'd have to spend all our time figuring just how deep the Bush Gang is in causing the problem to begin with.
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I forgot you were torn between Hillary and Bush.
I love the Bushes....LOL...they have a brand of conservatism I can live with.....They aren't crazy like the rest of the Republicans....It would be nice for Hillary to be the first female president.....as long as she's cleared of any wrongdoing
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I love the Bushes....LOL...they have a brand of conservatism I can live with.....They aren't crazy like the rest of the Republicans....It would be nice for Hillary to be the first female president.....as long as she's cleared of any wrongdoing
I'd have to say you're an exceptionally honest voter, then, since the two are basically the same.
Sorry to add that you'll probably get your wish with Hillary getting into the WH. But it annoys the hell out of me, when she tries to pretend her gender makes her as good as any political outsider.
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Bush Campaign Spent Millions on Ads, Hotels, Events
(http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=606531a0-809e-49ff-a1d7-e2af90350674&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600)
Image: Bush Campaign Spent Millions on Ads, Hotels, Events (AP Photo/Charlie Neibergall)
By Cathy Burke | Monday, 22 Feb 2016
Jeb Bush's deep-pocketed presidential primary campaign reportedly burned through a majority of its abundant cash on ads, posh clubs, a public relations firm, travel and consultants.
Yet the lavish spending spree didn't win even one state by the time he suspended his campaign after Saturday's South Carolina primary, the New York Times notes, laying out the candidate's ledger in detail.
According to the Times, the Bush campaign spent:
•$84 million on positive ads to reacquaint Bush as a trusted conservative to voters eight years after his governorship in Florida;
•$94,100 in the first half of 2015 to woo rich donors at dinners and events at swanky venues including the Yale Club, the Union League Club of Chicago, Nantucket’s Westmore Club, and more than two dozen other rich-people destinations;
•$15,800 on parking valets for donors;
•$8.3 million on campaign staff and organizers;
•$88,387 on public relations firm 30 Point Strategies, which specializes in "thought leadership" and "brand journalism";
•$3.3 million in airfare and hundreds of thousands of dollars at hotels, ranging from a Best Western in Phoenix to the Biltmore in Coral Gables, Fla. — and including $48,544 at the Bellagio, Wynn and the Venetian on Las Vegas' Strip, owned by GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson;
•$10 million on consultants, and;
•$4,837 on pizza for campaign workers.
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/jeb-bush-campaign-gop-republican/2016/02/22/id/715562/#ixzz40vwiIn6A
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That's a "Conservative" I guess.
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I'd have to say you're an exceptionally honest voter, then, since the two are basically the same.
Sorry to add that you'll probably get your wish with Hillary getting into the WH. But it annoys the hell out of me, when she tries to pretend her gender makes her as good as any political outsider.
I will say that I don't fully trust Hillary.....I think shes an opportunist and is in this for herself.......I trust Bush more but he never recovered from Trump destroying him and telling everyone he was "low energy"
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From The Onion (http://www.theonion.com/article/jeb-bush-bungles-several-questions-first-day-back--52406):
CORAL GABLES, FL—Noting how he repeatedly stumbled over his words and struggled to formulate convincing and consistent responses when asked by his wife about how he slept and what he wanted to have for breakfast, sources confirmed Monday that former presidential candidate Jeb Bush bungled numerous questions on his first day back at home. “You see—the thing is, breakfast—there are a number of options,” said Bush, anxiously reaching for a sip of water after delivering a meandering aside about why pancakes would be a reasonable choice, before awkwardly transitioning to a clumsy, forced anecdote about some bacon he recently had. “It’s an important question—you know what? Eggs. That’ll be—yes. Mmhmm.” Sources further reported Bush appeared helpless and forlorn after his request was drowned out by the louder, more confident answers from his children seated around the dining room table.
Please clap...
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From The Onion (http://www.theonion.com/article/jeb-bush-bungles-several-questions-first-day-back--52406):
Please clap...
Hilarious ;D