Author Topic: Rove subpoenaed and scheduled to appear on Monday Feb 2nd (Read 2812 times)

Straw Man · « **on:** January 28, 2009, 07:43:39 PM »

This should be interesting.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1874189,00.html

24KT · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2009, 09:10:52 PM »

When is Bush getting subpoenaed? When is he getting impeached?
Dammit, hurry it along! I can't wait already!

I 'm saving a bottle of champagne just for that, ...and I'm ansy to pop the cork on it!

240 is Back · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2009, 09:20:21 PM »

If Rove has nothing to hide, what is he worried about?

Straw Man · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2009, 07:06:56 PM »

this is going to get really interesting

Rove is presently refusing to show up

240 is Back · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2009, 07:25:25 PM »

He believes he's above the law.

Agree with the supoena or disagree with it... but you HAVE to show up when issued one.

If he doesn't show, he's breaking the law, plain and simple.

Straw Man · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2009, 07:45:04 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on January 29, 2009, 07:25:25 PM

He believes he's above the law.

Agree with the supoena or disagree with it... but you HAVE to show up when issued one.

If he doesn't show, he's breaking the law, plain and simple.

he was breaking the law the last time he refused to show up

I think the difference this time will be who is running the Dept. of Justice

240 is Back · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2009, 08:09:26 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 29, 2009, 07:45:04 PM

he was breaking the law the last time he refused to show up

I think the difference this time will be who is running the Dept. of Justice

Didn't Eric Holder say something recently which led us to believe he would prosecute?

LOL... memories of Alberto Gonzalez!

240 is Back · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2009, 08:23:15 PM »

jan 16th - Bush sent a lawyer to Rove - fred fielding, white house counsel, to Rove:

"You may receive future supoenas."

"The president continues to direct you not to give informatoin to Congress."

"The president still dictates executive order, even after he leaves office, forever"

Constitutional scholars say this is insanely unique, something no other president has done. So, chances are Rove will not show. bush thinks if you worked for him at any time, you have ability to ignore congressional supoenas for the rest of your life.

Before you laugh, repubs... picture Obama's staff, after 8 years of making their mess and scandal, having ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY FOR LIFE. In fact, they could ignore all congressional requests. Just like Rove and Myers and Bolton did under Bush.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2009, 07:01:30 AM »

I don't think this is the most important thing to persue and waste money on in the current state of things...but this is what happens when the administration has poor comunication. We must expect transparency from our officials outside of war strategies.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2009, 07:04:08 AM »

I think unlike Bush, Obama will insist that Rove testify UNDER oath.

mightymouse72 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2009, 07:06:00 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on January 29, 2009, 07:25:25 PM

He believes he's above the law.

Agree with the supoena or disagree with it... but you HAVE to show up when issued one.

If he doesn't show, he's breaking the law, plain and simple.

He doesn't have to show up.

240 is Back · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2009, 07:07:02 AM »

Quote from: mightymouse72 on January 30, 2009, 07:06:00 AM

He doesn't have to show up.

He was given a supoena.

Why is he, a private citzen, exempt from this letter?

Dos Equis · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2009, 11:00:47 AM »

Complete waste of money. I hope he doesn't show.

240 is Back · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2009, 11:58:00 AM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on January 30, 2009, 11:00:47 AM

Complete waste of money. I hope he doesn't show.

You hope he breaks the law? I don't understand that.

Whether it's a BS charge or not, it's a supoena. You get called, you go.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2009, 12:06:00 PM »

If he thinks he is covered by executive privilege, then he doesn't need to say a word until the courts rule on whether executive privilege applies.

240 is Back · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2009, 12:11:46 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on January 30, 2009, 12:06:00 PM

If he thinks he is covered by executive privilege, then he doesn't need to say a word until the courts rule on whether executive privilege applies.

So you agree that if/when holder and company order him to speak, he should?

Executive order can be removed by the next guy in charge, just like pardons.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2009, 12:23:25 PM »

No. If he asserts executive privilege the courts should decide whether he needs to appear.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:02:08 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on January 30, 2009, 11:00:47 AM

I hope he doesn't show.

Me too. Then the little weasle can go to jail.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:10:48 PM »

Quote from: LurkerNoMore on January 30, 2009, 01:02:08 PM

Me too. Then the little weasle can go to jail.

Wishful thinking.

Straw Man · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:23:19 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on January 30, 2009, 12:23:25 PM

No. If he asserts executive privilege the courts should decide whether he needs to appear.

I believe he will be held in contempt of congress and then the next step will be with the justice department.

Hopefully they will detain him until he agrees to talk.

Even better, maybe Obama can just declare him and enemy combatant and send him to Gitmo for waterboarding. I believe this is fully within the current power of the POTUS

240 is Back · « **Reply #20 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:27:37 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 30, 2009, 01:23:19 PM

Even better, maybe Obama can just declare him and enemy combatant and send him to Gitmo for waterboarding. I believe this is fully within the current power of the POTUS

lmao

Dos Equis · « **Reply #21 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:34:05 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 30, 2009, 01:23:19 PM

I believe he will be held in contempt of congress and then the next step will be with the justice department.

Hopefully they will detain him until he agrees to talk.

Even better, maybe Obama can just declare him and enemy combatant and send him to Gitmo for waterboarding. I believe this is fully within the current power of the POTUS

Cannot. It is being closed down.

Nothing but a partisan witch hunt.

Straw Man · « **Reply #22 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:38:25 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on January 30, 2009, 01:34:05 PM

Cannot. It is being closed down.

Nothing but a partisan witch hunt.

really - then why did Michael Mukasey name a special prosecutor in September to investigate whether former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, other Bush administration officials or Republicans in Congress should face criminal charges in the firings of the U.S. attorneys.

Is that also a partisan witch hunt ?

Dos Equis · « **Reply #23 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:45:28 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on January 30, 2009, 01:38:25 PM

really - then why did Michael Mukasey name a special prosecutor in September to investigate whether former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, other Bush administration officials or Republicans in Congress should face criminal charges in the firings of the U.S. attorneys.

Is that also a partisan witch hunt ?

Yes, it is a partisan witch hunt. The investigation was started by Democrats. The hearings were held by Democrats. The continued hearings are being held by Democrats.

And I have yet to hear or read about any criminal activity in the firing of the U.S. Attorneys. Outrageous that my tax dollars are being wasted on this garbage, particularly in light of the economic crisis.

Option D · « **Reply #24 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:48:50 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on January 30, 2009, 11:00:47 AM

Complete waste of money. I hope he doesn't show.

I feel the same way about the steroid witch hunts...