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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: mesmorph78 on August 10, 2014, 11:33:22 AM
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I'm a talking about actual knowledge about training
1. Cedric mcmillian
2. Shawn ray
3. Dorian
4. Brandon curry
5. Ben p.insky
6.Toney freeman
.... Ronnie was impressive
Pros who I scratch my head about
Branch
Johnnie
Kevin levrone... I've watched some of his videos and some of the stuff he came out with ???
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Nothing from a single one.
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From all of them, mainly from guys who train cleverly and avoid joint destroying training.
Branch Warren for example.
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Nothing from a single one.
So you don't think you could ever learn anything from Dorian Yates and you know everything about diet and training right??
Why did you then ask only a few weeks ago if it was possible to "build muscle when in a caloric deficit" if you had all the answers?
Fail again
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Lee Haney
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So you don't think you could ever learn anything from Dorian Yates and you know everything about diet and training right??
Why did you then ask only a few weeks ago if it was possible to "build muscle when in a caloric deficit" if you had all the answers?
Fail again
It was a rhetorical question you dumb fuck, I already knew the answer.
And the thread is about training not diet.
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Lee Haney
+1 Stimulate dont annihilate.
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It was a rhetorical question you dumb fuck, I already knew the answer.
And the thread is about training not diet.
So you asked a question you already knew the answer?
So lets just get this clear you don't think you can ever learn anything about training from Dorian Yates, correct?
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So you asked a question you already knew the answer?
So lets just get this clear you don't think you can ever learn anything about training from Dorian Yates, correct?
Yes,
Dorian Yates didnt say anything else anyone else hadn't said before.
Fucking hell its lifting weights FFS not going to the moon.
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I've learned some stuff from Jay Cutler & Troy Alves & Yates & Haney & Francois & Coleman
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Most pros lift & eat in a similar manner. It's the pros who do things differently that are most interesting. I found Vince Taylor & Phil Hernon to be most informative in that regard
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Yes,
Dorian Yates didnt say anything else anyone else hadn't said before.
Fucking hell its lifting weights FFS not going to the moon.
So you know more about bodybuilding training than multiple Mr Olympia winners?
Is there any reason you did not become a personal trainer and share your knowledge with the rest of the world like Charles Glass making big money in the process.
Remind me what's the highest you have ever placed in a competition again?
Why haven't you won one yet then?
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Derek Anthony
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Years ago Rich Gaspari tried to take over the squat rack from me...I told him to beat it and learned he was a little kunt...
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So you know more about bodybuilding training than multiple Mr Olympia winners?
Is there any reason you did not become a personal trainer and share your knowledge with the rest of the world like Charles Glass making big money in the process.
Remind me what's the highest you have ever place in a competition again?
Why haven't you won one yet then?
Lol at your desperation.
Are you trying to ruin every thread you post in?
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Normally I'm able to ignore the postings of an undesirable but there are special cases where an Ignore function would be nice.
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Lol at your desperation.
Are you trying to ruin every thread you post in?
Off course not, I asked you a perfectly valid question relating to the topic of the thread and why you think you know more about bodybuilding training than former Mr Olimpia winners and why you feel you cannot learn anything new from them?
What's your answer?
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Off course not, I asked you a perfectly valid question relating to the topic of the thread and why you think you know more about bodybuilding training than former Mr Olimpia winners and why you feel you cannot learn anything new from them?
What's your answer?
No you didnt you made an assumption.
You are still making it even though you have been corrected.
Keep on keeping on, I will just keep responding until you get TOd again.
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The question asked by OP in this thread was:
Which pros have you learned the most from about training
To which you replied
Nothing from a single one.
How is it an assumption to ask you the question why you feel you know more about bodybuilding training than multiple Mr Olympia winners and why you feel you could not learn from them given you have never placed even in the top 3 of any competition?
Why do you keep avoiding the question?
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Fakhri Mubarak and Jon Delarosa, both personally
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Actually Kai was the one I've learned from that weight is not important and the mind muscle connection is the single most-important factor when it comes to building muscle.
I bet my joints will be thankful for that lesson in a few decades.
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The question asked by OP in this thread was:
To which you replied
How is it an assumption to ask you the question why you feel you know more about bodybuilding training than multiple Mr Olympia winners and why you feel you could not learn from them given you have never placed even in the top 3 of any competition?
Why do you keep avoiding the question?
Keep going, I will make you look even more stupid later.
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Yates, hands down.
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Mike Mentzer and Tom Platz.
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Keep going, I will make you look even more stupid later.
Why do you want to make me look stupid rather than answering the question about the topic of this thread? ???
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Arnold. Anything todays pros say may be true but it wont work unless you re on 10k of drugs a year.
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Why do you want to make me look stupid rather than answering the question about the topic of this thread? ???
You are fucking the thread up again joon, let it go.
Why do you think you have me in some strange "gotcha" situation?
Have you got a little chubby in your boxers?
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Yates, hands down.
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I trained with him at Temple Gym once.
Great and knowledgeable guy.
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Always read anything written by yates, his writings have had the biggest influence
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Arnold. Anything todays pros say may be true but it wont work unless you re on 10k of drugs a year.
lmao
And it's common knowledge that anything Arnold said was complete bullcrap and self-staging (like anything he did anyways) as he trained the complete opposite as soon as there were no cameras around (light weights, maximum contraction,...)
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You are fucking the thread up again joon, let it go.
Why do you think you have me in some strange "gotcha" situation?
Have you got a little chubby in your boxers?
Why you disagree with doing squats or deadlifts when most of the pro's including Dorian Yates believe those to be fundamental bread and butter exercises for growth and development?
Please share with us your knowledge why you feel you know more about training than Dorian Yates? Why are you more knowledgeable and special than him?
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Why you disagree with doing squats or deadlifts when most of the pro's including Dorian Yates believe those to be fundamental bread and butter exercises for growth and development?
Please share with us your knowledge why you feel you know more about training than Dorian Yates? Why are you more knowledgeable and special than him?
I have a sticky in the UK section you can ask me questions in there ....oh wait, no you cant can you.
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Lol at your desperation.
Are you trying to ruin every thread you post in?
I know Junior was the instigator here, but you could have opted to ignore him. What's the point of responding?
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Why you disagree with doing squats or deadlifts when most of the pro's including Dorian Yates believe those to be fundamental bread and butter exercises for growth and development?
Please share with us your knowledge why you feel you know more about training than Dorian Yates? Why are you more knowledgeable and special than him?
Dorian didn't do one single squat thruoughout his entire pro career. At least none with a bar on his back, maybe one or two on Joe Weiders lap before Olympia time.
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I know Junior was the instigator here, but you could have opted to ignore him. What's the point of responding?
To get people to come over to the UK forum where he isnt allowed to post.
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I have a sticky in the UK section you can ask me questions in there ....oh wait, no you cant can you.
The question was:
Why you disagree with doing squats or deadlifts when most of the pro's including Dorian Yates believe those to be fundamental bread and butter exercises for growth and development?
Please share with us your knowledge why you feel you know more about training than Dorian Yates? Why are you more knowledgeable and special than him?
If you have so much knowledge and know more about training than Dorian Yates why have you never won a bodybuilding show, have you just been a bit unlucky, or you think maybe it might be time to start learning from Dorian Yates and doing some squats or dead-lifts?
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To get people to come over to the UK forum where he isnt allowed to post.
Touche :D
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The question was:
If you have so much knowledge and know more about training than Dorian Yates why have you never won a bodybuilding show, have you just been a bit unlucky, or you think maybe it might be time to start learning from Dorian Yates and doing some squats or dead-lifts?
Dorian wasnt an advocate of squats and deadlifts.
Didn't he mention that when you trained with him?
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Dorian didn't do one single squat thruoughout his entire pro career. At least none with a bar on his back, maybe one or two on Joe Weiders lap before Olympia time.
Dorian did front squats and regular squats routinely in his earlier development.
Dorian also did heavy dead-lifts
The question I am asking Simon is why he feels those exercises are useless for growth and development and many pro disagree with him and why he thinks he knows more about bodybuilding training than former Mr Olympians?
Its a simple enough, relevant and on topic question which he keeps avoiding.
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Dorian did front squats and regular squats routinely in his earlier development.
Dorian also did heavy dead-lifts
The question I am asking Simon is why he feels those exercises are useless for growth and development and many pro disagree with him and why he thinks he knows more about bodybuilding training than former Mr Olympians?
Its a simple enough, relevant and on topic question which he keeps avoiding.
Why do you insist on making assumptions on what I believe?
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Why do you insist on making assumptions on what I believe?
What do you believe? I have asked you about 10 times already.
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Dorian did front squats and regular squats routinely in his earlier development.
Dorian also did heavy dead-lifts
Dorian stopped doing squats early in his career, as well as flat benches. Even on the deadlift he didn't go crazy.
According to the man himself:
"Must You Squat, Deadlift, and Bench Press to be Hardcore?
Let’s start with squats. When I started training in 1984, Tom Platz was the man. Prior to Platz, legs had never been a big deal in bodybuilding. Once ‘The Golden Eagle’ came on the scene with those incredible legs of his, all that changed. Tom was known for his brutal squat workouts. In my gym, as in most gyms where serious bodybuilders trained at that time, you weren’t even considered a real man unless you squatted. So I did my best, but my body wasn’t structurally suited for squats. My hips were rather small for my frame, which was a liability when it came to heavy squats. I tore a muscle in my hip and underwent surgery. This was before I even turned pro.
I should also note that as hard as I did work on squats up to that point, my leg development was nothing really special. After my surgery, I never did a single set of squats again. I used Smith machine squats, the leg press, and the hack squat. I found that for me, those exercises did a much better job at working my quads, whereas squats had always involved a lot of lower back and glutes. I still say that the barbell squat is a wonderful exercise for some people. For anyone who plays a sport like football or soccer, they are a great all-around movement and will help develop superb core strength. But in my case, squats never delivered the best results. I managed to win six Mr. Olympia titles without them, and my legs became two of my better body parts.
As for deadlifts, I did them, but at the end of my back workouts. That limited the amount of weight I could use to no more than 405-495 pounds, but I was never hung up on how much I could lift in any movement. The goal was always to develop my physique, not puff up my ego. Also, I only did the first set from the floor. After that, all sets were from the shins up, as I didn’t care to involve the quads and glutes any more than was necessary."
http://www.musculardevelopment.com/articles/training/3333-what-does-hardcore-really-mean-by-dorian-yates.html
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What do you believe? I have asked you about 10 times already.
Im not telling you.
Its none of your fucking business, and another thing is you would not benefit at all from me sharing it with you.
You have zero knowledge on the topic at hand you dont Google search a response to.
By the way, How much did you pay to train with Dorian?
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Its none of your fucking business, and another thing is you would not benefit at all from me sharing it with you.
Why would I not benefit from you telling me about your training secrets that you know more about than Dorian Yates?
By the way, How much did you pay to train with Dorian?
£150.00
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Why would I not benefit from you telling me about your training secrets that you know more about than Dorian Yates?
£150.00
1. Because you are not here to learn anything.
2. mug.
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Almost all "pro" training advice is not applicable to a natty at all.
Gear heads can make tons of mistakes and still make progress. The results they get from the drugs make them think they have done things correctly. In reality, most of them are training imbeciles because 90% of their training experience was acquired while they were on the sauce.
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1. Because you are not here to learn anything.
2. mug.
What if I paid you a £150, since that's what I gave Dorian and since you know more about training than him that would be a good deal for me no?
Can I come up to your gym and have you train me for one hour so maybe I can learn from you?
Just remind me again, how much do you squat or dead-lift? Oh I forgot you don't
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What if I paid you a £150, since that's what I gave Dorian and since you know more than him that would be a good deal for me no?
Can I come up to your gym and have you train me for one hour so maybe I can learn from you?
Just remind me again, how much do you squat or dead-lift? Oh I forgot you don't
If I came to meet you we wouldn't be discussing training
Just because I don't squat and dead-lift you assume I think they are not good exercises?
How many times do I have to tell you to stop making assumptions on what I believe.
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You are fucking the thread up again joon, let it go.
Why do you think you have me in some strange "gotcha" situation?
Have you got a little chubby in your boxers?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
YOU telling someone to "let it go"
My hypocrisy meter just exploded into a million pieces. :D
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If I came to meet you we wouldn't be discussing training
Just because I don't squat and dead-lift you assume I think they are not good exercises?
How many times do I have to tell you to stop making assumptions on what I believe.
No no no, that's just the thing, I am happy to come up to where you are and meet you, honestly its not a problem for me, I drive a fast car and can be up there in a jiffy. I don't want you to go to any extra bother on my account.
I just want to come and train with you for an hour so you can teach me about your knowledge about training and i'm happy to pay you for your time.
I can come up this Saturday if you are free, say about 2.00pm, would that suit you?
Also if you think deadlifts and squats are good exercises why don't you do them then? It makes no sense not to do something that is good for you.
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Reg Park, Steve Reeves, and Arnold.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
YOU telling someone to "let it go"
My hypocrisy meter just exploded into a million pieces. :D
You just downed a bottle of Mountain Dew to initiate this revival from your normal slump?
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No no no, that's just the thing, I am happy to come up to where you are and meet you, honestly its not a problem for me, I drive a fast car and can be up there in a jiffy. I don't want you to go to any extra bother on my account.
I just want to come and train with you for an hour so you can teach me about your knowledge about training and i'm happy to pay you for your time.
I can come up this Saturday if you are free, say about 2.00pm, would that suit you?
Also if you think deadlifts and squats are good exercises why don't you do them then? It makes no sense not to do something that is good for you.
Yes, stand under the big clock on the station wearing a carnation and carrying a copy of the Daily Mail.
WTF would EVER want to meet you for?
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Yes,
Dorian Yates didnt say anything else anyone else hadn't said before.
Fucking hell its lifting weights FFS not going to the moon.
You are being very stupid if you said you cant learn anything from dorian yates, no matter how long you have being training you can always learn something new, humble yourself and stop acting like a pretentious asshole.
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I'm with Junior on this one, as I lurked this thread it wasn't just Junior that ruined it. It was Smple Simon going back and forth with him like a 4th grader that did. He does this in many other threads, yet everyone turns an eye to it and punishes who ever he's stalking
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You are being very stupid if you said you cant learn anything from dorian yates, no matter how long you have being training you can always learn something new, humble yourself and stop acting like a pretentious asshole.
Thanks for that, Im glad someone as knowledgable as you chimed in to rescue the thread.
Now fuck off.
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I'm with Junior on this one, as I lurked this thread it wasn't just Junior that ruined it. It was Smple Simon going back and forth with him like a 4th grader that did. He does this in many other threads, yet everyone turns an eye to it and punishes who ever he's stalking
Shut it spunk tummy.
I posted a response to the op, it wasn't open to discussion.
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Yes, stand under the big clock on the station wearing a carnation and carrying a copy of the Daily Mail.
WTF would EVER want to meet you for?
Like I said, I just want to come down to your gym and train with you for one hour or so, its really not a big deal.
I want you to train me like a personal trainer would do for about an hour or hour and a half.
You can even film me if you want doing the exercises you tell me to do in the way you want me to do it and we can post it here on Get Big.
I am always interested in training with new people and seeing if there is something new I can learn and by the sounds of it you are a knowledgeable fella and know more about training than Dorian Yates who I trained with.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is?
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Shut it spunk tummy.
I posted a response to the op, it wasn't open to discussion.
"spunk tummy" that's cute. But you're pathetic and ruining this forum.
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Like I said, I just want to come down to your gym and train with you for one hour or so, its really not a big deal.
I want you to train me like a personal trainer would do for about an hour or hour and a half.
You can even film me if you want doing the exercises you tell me to do in the way you want me to do it and we can post it here on Get Big.
I am always interested in training with new people and seeing if there is something new I can learn and by the sounds of it you are a knowledgeable fella and know more about training than Dorian Yates who I trained with.
I honestly don't see what the big deal is?
I am not going to dickhead not my style moron but it's not personal info when you post shit on a public channel like youtube now is it.
Another thing you got wrong today.
You are a total asshole for deleting my thread, to me that was like a fucking diary, you should ask Ron to retrieve it for me and move it to my thread, I think he should have the ability to retrieve old deleted posts.
All because you melted like a donkey and thought I was some fucking gimmick.
Ur a twat
Fuck off
Im done with you
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"spunk tummy" that's cute. But you're pathetic and ruining this forum.
If you can behave yourself you are welcome in the UK section, no shit in there.
Just people sharing knowledge and having some fun
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Simon has an ok look physique but he is an injury risk waiting to happen, because he only train with machines his stabilizer muscles are weak and he has a false sense of strength, if he bends over to pick up a heavy box he will have a hard time since the machine is not there to support him, on top of that he thinks he knows it all when its pretty obvious he does not know much.
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Simon has an ok look physique but he is an injury risk waiting to happen, because he only train with machines his stabilizer muscles are weak and he has a false sense of strength, if he bends over to pick up a heavy box he will have a hard time since the machine is not there to support him, on top of that he thinks he knows it all when its pretty obvious he does not know much.
Why don't you fucking show a picture like you promised? You short fat fuck! Go and fucking die ,please.
Your comments a worth nothing anymore. So what's the point?
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Simon has an ok look physique but he is an injury risk waiting to happen, because he only train with machines his stabilizer muscles are weak and he has a false sense of strength, if he bends over to pick up a heavy box he will have a hard time since the machine is not there to support him, on top of that he thinks he knows it all when its pretty obvious he does not know much.
Trainer looks like a fat sack of shit and doesnt even lift.
Hes a shitty gimmick account that Googles all his info and sprays it on this forum like a muck spreader.
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Here is the thing a lot of you guys believe in god and you have never seen him but you know he is real from reading his words in the bible, its the same thing with the trainer even if you have not yet seen me at 250 pounds and 8 percent you know I am real from my words, its the bible of bodybuilding follow my words and you can only get bigger and stronger.
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Here is the thing a lot of you guys believe in god and you have never seen him but you know he is real from reading his words in the bible, its the same thing with the trainer even if you have not yet seen me at 250 pounds and 8 percent you know I am real from my words, its the bible of bodybuilding follow my words and you can only get bigger and stronger.
Seriously, just go.
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This thread went pear shaped quickly.
I wouldn't dare offer an opinion, but we can all learn something from everyone and avoid dogma.
As for Dorian, he now back barbell squats. A lesson for all of us to stay open minded.
Light weights but why would he ever want to train heavy now.
Shit form, but 6xMr O can train any damn way he likes.
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Early years it was Steve Reeves
Mid life Bill Pearl
Cogger years Troy Alves
and they were all one on one.
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This thread went pear shaped quickly.
I wouldn't dare offer an opinion, but we can all learn something from everyone and avoid dogma.
As for Dorian, he now back barbell squats. A lesson for all of us to stay open minded.
Light weights but why would he ever want to train heavy now.
Shit form, but 6xMr O can train any damn way he likes.
He also dropped the weight way down since hes not gunning for a title, and hes learned from his injuries.
Different goals now so he trains differently.
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I would say Bob Chick.
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Also can I make a rather obvious point, what works for Dorian might not work for Simon but would work for Junior. What works for Coleman might work for me but not work for The Trainer, etc etc.
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Norb Schmansky -
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Taught me that the best way to get better at the thing, is to actually go and do the thing. That is more or less the universal truth of any sport or activity.
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Haney, Labrada, and Dorian.
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Steve Michalik
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BDB
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It was a rhetorical question you dumb fuck, I already knew the answer.
And the thread is about training not diet.
Yet you look pathetic - so not much have you learned.
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Mike Mentzer. Eric Bui for Squatting technique. Pretty much it.
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I'm a talking about actual knowledge about training
1. Cedric mcmillian
2. Shawn ray
3. Dorian
4. Brandon curry
5. Ben p.insky
6.Toney freeman
.... Ronnie was impressive
Pros who I scratch my head about
Branch
Johnnie
Kevin levrone... I've watched some of his videos and some of the stuff he came out with ???
Same list. I'll add Flex. Didn't really pay too much attention to super setting arms or chest exercises and unilateral training until I saw his vids.
Brandon Curry offers different variations on exercises.
JOJ's floor pressing....If you actually look at JOJ and Branch (when younger) they have some huge pecs. The question is if it more from their earlier training or their builds--both have shortish arms, which has been theorize that those with shorter arms tend to have better chest. And they may have good chest genetics as well.
Cedric---also, different variations.
Ronnie teaches you what happens over time with heavy weights.
Phil---tri-set tricep rope pull downs.
Roelly and Uma---a variation on some chest exercises.
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Lifting weight is not rocket surgery.
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Padilla, Lebrada and Haney.
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Here is the thing a lot of you guys believe in god and you have never seen him but you know he is real from reading his words in the bible, its the same thing with the trainer even if you have not yet seen me at 250 pounds and 8 percent you know I am real from my words, its the bible of bodybuilding follow my words and you can only get bigger and stronger.
I don't believe in god but I know you are short fat Gimmick fuck.
Amen!
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Lifting weight is not rocket surgery.
But it just might be brain science.....
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I'm a talking about actual knowledge about training
1. Cedric mcmillian
2. Shawn ray
3. Dorian
4. Brandon curry
5. Ben p.insky
6.Toney freeman
.... Ronnie was impressive
Pros who I scratch my head about
Branch
Johnnie
Kevin levrone... I've watched some of his videos and some of the stuff he came out with ???
Layne Norton
Coach Huang
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Layne Norton
Coach Huang
:o
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"it's only gay if you want it to be"
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how to stretch properly is the key to build muscle
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Yet you look pathetic - so not much have you learned.
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Nah...not a gimmick account at all.
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+1 Stimulate dont annihilate.
Yes, Lee Haney is up there.
Also worth mentioning:
Dorian Yates
Victor Martinez (or whoever ghost wrote his md column :-X)
Ronnie Coleman
Arnold
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Its making me sick!! The trainer has really fucked himself up for good!
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Its making me sick!! The trainer has really fucked himself up for good!
:D :D :D
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Here is the thing a lot of you guys believe in god and you have never seen him but you know he is real from reading his words in the bible, its the same thing with the trainer even if you have not yet seen me at 250 pounds and 8 percent you know I am real from my words, its the bible of bodybuilding follow my words and you can only get bigger and stronger.
Watch out boys! We got a new gh15 around! ::)
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learned alot from mrs olympia carla dunlop when i was 15,also johnnie morant,guy duccasse,jason arntz,derrick whitsett where valuable in my early to mid years, id hang at the juice bar n listen to them talk about diet,training,getting ready for shows,what to take(drugs) ect for hours on end,i worked out with them afew times n picked their brains hard. plus my gym had about 15 top amatuers walking around at any givin time,i was fortunate to find such a place
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I have learned most from Toney Freeman and his training style is fully incorporated in mine. I recommend him to anyone as well as Ron Love. Both have similar approaches.
Lol at Junior owning Simone badly who claims he knows more than Dorian. Simone's claim to fame is placing 8th in Middleweights North Western Britain 18 years ago BTW. Nice meltdown from the rainbow elastic band gym warrior ;D
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From all of them, mainly from guys who train cleverly and avoid joint destroying training.
Branch Warren for example.
Agreed. Also a good source for tips on safely riding a horse.
Good info on squat depth by JP Fux.
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learned alot from mrs olympia carla dunlop when i was 15,also johnnie morant,guy duccasse,jason arntz,derrick whitsett where valuable in my early to mid years, id hang at the juice bar n listen to them talk about diet,training,getting ready for shows,what to take(drugs) ect for hours on end,i worked out with them afew times n picked their brains hard. plus my gym had about 15 top amatuers walking around at any givin time,i was fortunate to find such a place
U WERE LUCKY THERE DIAMOND GYM...I MUST SAY.
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Don't know if he's a pro, but I learned a lot from whoever wrote Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding.
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Bill Pearl....A Mans Man.
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Lol at Junior owning Simone
Yeah he knows who's the boss around here and not to mess with my friends ;)
How's Radu doing, I wish you would keep doing updates in that thread bro, fuck the haters I was really enjoying his progress.
Peace
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Yeah he knows who's the boss around here and not to mess with my friends ;)
How's Radu doing, I wish you would keep doing updates in that thread bro, fuck the haters I was really enjoying his progress.
Peace
3 weeks out now ..doing good
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3 weeks out now ..doing good
Pics bro pictooors ;)
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U WERE LUCKY THERE DIAMOND GYM...I MUST SAY.
i was very very lucky, i was down seaside heights when i was 14 or so n walking on boardwalk when i saw this dude LUCHO STYVINOSKI,he was teenage mr america at 14 or 15 n was a freak,hugest thighs around. i noticed he had a tank top on that said diamond gym new jersey n i went up to him n said hey man wheres your gym located,he told me n the rest was history. met john n shirley kemper when i was 15 yrs old n 3 weeks later i asked some ripped black lady if i could jump in on a set of low pulley rows n she said sure,she taught me the meaning of training that day,i couldnt move for a week,lol. she is such a nice lady,i cant even put into words how genuine n beautiful she is as a person,such a wonderful lady. morant was there,he was like my age and weighed 255 n had thighs bigger than a thoroughbred :o, i was in heaven training there,im this 15 yr old kid around these giant bodybuilders n the coolest thing was they where always willing to help u out,as long as u didnt bother them in the middle of a set u where ok. i remember buying a bottle of those CIBA-GEIGY DIANABOL back then n man oh man did those things pack on some beef, my bench went up 75 lbs in 3 weeks n i got stronger n bigger almost overnight,amazing.
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I have learned most from Toney Freeman and his training style is fully incorporated in mine. I recommend him to anyone as well as Ron Love. Both have similar approaches.
Lol at Junior owning Simone badly who claims he knows more than Dorian. Simone's claim to fame is placing 8th in Middleweights North Western Britain 18 years ago BTW. Nice meltdown from the rainbow elastic band gym warrior ;D
Read the thread you dumbass gypsy.
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I learned how to avoid injuries from reading Larry Scott. Actual training stuff I learned from various strength and conditioning coaches through the years. These all drugs 'pros' train the same way the 15 year olds at the local gym train. Everything works.
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when you say you learned things how about being specific?
dorian yates? well i guess he got some knowledge as far as form, but very few people train according to his 1 set principles so theres not a whole lot to learn there from watching him squeeze his biceps in a a machine or do legpresses.
toney freeman? yeah i know he's old and needs to train smarter, but it's just a shitload of weird ass excercises he does, like one leg at a time leg curls, you really believe that? studies shows that one leg at a time does LESS than both at the same time.
cutler? having difficulties to see how anyone learned anything from anything he ever recorded in the gym.
levrone? inspirationaland quite fun to watch, dude was a beast in the gym no doubt but as far as technique-wise etc not a whole lot to learn there.
lee priest? guy is a midget, very hard to believe anything that worked particulary well for him would work for you unless you too are a midget.
charles glass - he got all the angles shit but theres no science about any of that stuff, its just something he does to have something original to bring to the table.
ronnie - fun to watch and inspirational but nothing more.
bob chick - actually one of the better guys out there that actually teach technique, very underrated IMO, id go so far to say that his videos are the best of them all.
milos - also big on technique there's some stuff to pick up there but i dont believe a whole lot in his approach that putting your feet outward or inward in a legcurl would make any difference.
larry scott - weirdo, had so much weird shit going on that it feels like youre on drugs watching it.
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i met bill pearl and dennis tinerino at bill pearls gym in jersey n was really interested in bill pearls training theories, dennis was cool,really nice guy,huge as hell
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Norb Schmansky -
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Taught me that the best way to get better at the thing, is to actually go and do the thing. That is more or less the universal truth of any sport or activity.
He was one crazy strong guy. Worked all day many hours and then worked out. If I got the story right one boss wouldn't let him have off for the National championships. He used that old fashion split technique in the clean and snatch. With modern training and using the squat technique I wonder what he could have done?
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My biggest influence was Arthur Jones and Mike Mentzer. Trained for 4 decades with low sets and what for me was heavy weight. Now in my mid 50's and I have a lot of joint problems. Wished I exhausted the muscles through volume instead of piling on the iron for one or two sets.
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What is there to learn???
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What could you possibly learn from a pro? Everything they put out is an act.
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Haney
Arnold
Dorian
Shawn Ray
Charles Glass
Mentzer
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I have a few pros I learned invaluable lessons from:
Mike Matarazzo, I am a lot more heart conscious now.
Flex Wheeler and Don Long taught me a lot about kidney health and what this sport can do it.
Kai Greene, helped me understand and improve my love/hate relationship with fruits.
Phil Heath, taught me how not to deal with the "Haterz"
Arnie taught me that no matter how old you are and no matter how successful you get, never get too cocky or a huge cock-up might creep up on you and ruin your year.
Nick Toscani, taught me that 10G's is just not worth it.
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I have a few pros I learned invaluable lessons from:
Mike Matarazzo, I am a lot more heart conscious now.
Flex Wheeler and Don Long taught me a lot about kidney health and what this sport can do it.
Kai Greene, helped me understand and improve my love/hate relationship with fruits.
Phil Heath, taught me how not to deal with the "Haterz"
Arnie taught me that no matter how old you are and no matter how successful you get, never get too cocky or a huge cock-up might creep up on you and ruin your year.
Nick Toscani, taught me that 10G's is just not worth it.
ALSO ARNOLD,showed us to stay away from the Mexican maid or it will cost you,,
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i was very very lucky, i was down seaside heights when i was 14 or so n walking on boardwalk when i saw this dude LUCHO STYVINOSKI,he was teenage mr america at 14 or 15 n was a freak,hugest thighs around. i noticed he had a tank top on that said diamond gym new jersey n i went up to him n said hey man wheres your gym located,he told me n the rest was history. met john n shirley kemper when i was 15 yrs old n 3 weeks later i asked some ripped black lady if i could jump in on a set of low pulley rows n she said sure,she taught me the meaning of training that day,i couldnt move for a week,lol. she is such a nice lady,i cant even put into words how genuine n beautiful she is as a person,such a wonderful lady. morant was there,he was like my age and weighed 255 n had thighs bigger than a thoroughbred :o, i was in heaven training there,im this 15 yr old kid around these giant bodybuilders n the coolest thing was they where always willing to help u out,as long as u didnt bother them in the middle of a set u where ok. i remember buying a bottle of those CIBA-GEIGY DIANABOL back then n man oh man did those things pack on some beef, my bench went up 75 lbs in 3 weeks n i got stronger n bigger almost overnight,amazing.
Cool stuff brother.
CIBA D-Bol was my first cycle..........blows todays stuff away.
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Cool stuff brother.
CIBA D-Bol was my first cycle..........blows todays stuff away.
thanks big wes, u r right about the ciba dbol bro,them things got me so strong and big within a month it was unreal, to this day ive never found any oral pill even close to them,or for that matter any injectable even near the results they brought
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Read the thread you dumbass gypsy.
did so
you blabbered incoherently reeling and avoiding a simple question
conclusion? YOU are the stupid dumbass ;)
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did so
you blabbered incoherently reeling and avoiding a simple questionconclusion? YOU are the stupid dumbass ;)
So from that you deduced the following.
Lol at Junior owning Simone badly who claims he knows more than Dorian.
Did you work that out by reading my mind because I sure didnt write it.
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Drop it Simone. You were/are a joke as pointed out by Junior. Stick to the UK forum where you can erase posts when you have no rebuttal. It is funny watching you getting angry and desperate. You should PM your fat fuck friend pigmc to come in and help you with some support..as soon as he gets over the bad sperm tryst
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when you say you learned things how about being specific?
dorian yates? well i guess he got some knowledge as far as form, but very few people train according to his 1 set principles so theres not a whole lot to learn there from watching him squeeze his biceps in a a machine or do legpresses.
toney freeman? yeah i know he's old and needs to train smarter, but it's just a shitload of weird ass excercises he does, like one leg at a time leg curls, you really believe that? studies shows that one leg at a time does LESS than both at the same time.
cutler? having difficulties to see how anyone learned anything from anything he ever recorded in the gym.
levrone? inspirationaland quite fun to watch, dude was a beast in the gym no doubt but as far as technique-wise etc not a whole lot to learn there.
lee priest? guy is a midget, very hard to believe anything that worked particulary well for him would work for you unless you too are a midget.
charles glass - he got all the angles shit but theres no science about any of that stuff, its just something he does to have something original to bring to the table.
ronnie - fun to watch and inspirational but nothing more.
bob chick - actually one of the better guys out there that actually teach technique, very underrated IMO, id go so far to say that his videos are the best of them all.
milos - also big on technique there's some stuff to pick up there but i dont believe a whole lot in his approach that putting your feet outward or inward in a legcurl would make any difference.
larry scott - weirdo, had so much weird shit going on that it feels like youre on drugs watching it.
Unilateral training is not "weird". Flex was doing that back on his 93 vid. And since Toney is from that era as well, I understand him using it.
I guess the ones you can learn the most from are either from the best era, which was the 90s.
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unilateral training is the best thing I have ever learned in the last 25 years
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stalking radu is the best thing I have ever learned in the last 25 years
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how is you? feeling better ? bad sperm is dangerous glad u ok dawg
did you think of alternative weightloss solutions?
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Did you work that out by reading my mind because I sure didnt write it.
Question:
Which pros have you learned the most from about training
Simon's Answer:
Nothing from a single one.
Result: Always the same: Owned.
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how is you? feeling better ? bad sperm is dangerous glad u ok dawg
did you think of alternative weightloss solutions?
a little better thanks
laughing at your meltdowns has helped a lot
i would have shot you a pm but you would only throw a tantrum and post it on here :)
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I have a few pros I learned invaluable lessons from:
Mike Matarazzo, I am a lot more heart conscious now.
Flex Wheeler and Don Long taught me a lot about kidney health and what this sport can do it.
Kai Greene, helped me understand and improve my love/hate relationship with fruits.
Phil Heath, taught me how not to deal with the "Haterz"
Arnie taught me that no matter how old you are and no matter how successful you get, never get too cocky or a huge cock-up might creep up on you and ruin your year.
Nick Toscani, taught me that 10G's is just not worth it.
thick nick - saying that if u are dieting and dehydrated for a show your cock will get smaller ;D
Bob - taught u it's only gay if u want it to be and something about ice machines at the mirage hotel.....
Tom prince - stay away from Advil
Craig - don't ever light your jaguar on fire in the middle of a desert
Lee priest - only a few d bols here, some deca, and a little bit of test.....
Phil Heath - always stand 3 feet in front of the white line during pre judging
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Dr. Norton.
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Question:
Simon's Answer:
Result: Always the same: Owned.
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Finished
OK lets look at what I wrote
"Nothing from a single one"
Can you think of another way that may be intended than how it first appears?
"Nothing from a single one" can mean that a single one has taught me nothing but a multitude has.
So I could have learned things from many sources but nothing unique from a single one.
My next post about Dorian not saying anything someone hadn't said before validates that point.
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Drop it Simone. You were/are a joke as pointed out by Junior. Stick to the UK forum where you can erase posts when you have no rebuttal. It is funny watching you getting angry and desperate. You should PM your fat fuck friend pigmc to come in and help you with some support..as soon as he gets over the bad sperm tryst
You keep repeating that like you believe it.
Stick to creating FB pages for Radu that no one posts on.
Does he actually know you set it up?
You can add that to your own list of failed FB pages
https://www.facebook.com/events/269701819843665/?ref=22
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None....learned some stuff here from some of the posters.
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Can you think of another way that may be intended than how it first appears?
So I could have learned things from many sources but nothing unique from a single one.
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So I could have learned things from many sources but nothing unique from a single one.
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thick nick - saying that if u are dieting and dehydrated for a show your cock will get smaller ;D
Bob - taught u it's only gay if u want it to be and something about ice machines at the mirage hotel.....
Tom prince - stay away from Advil
Craig - don't ever light your jaguar on fire in the middle of a desert
Lee priest - only a few d bols here, some deca, and a little bit of test.....
Phil Heath - always stand 3 feet in front of the white line during pre judging
PMSL how can we forget ;D
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simone simone .. that is an event not a fb page...but i have little faith for you to grasp that with that little intellect of yours
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Cool story bro, tell it again. :-*
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simone simone .. that is an event not a fb page...but i have little faith for you to grasp that with that little intellect of yours
Lol, and 1 turned up.
Fuck me you are easy.
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Lol, and 1 turned up.
Fuck me you are easy.
sev often has to preach to an empty room
he is arrogant enough not to notice
the sound of silence
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You keep repeating that like you believe it.
Stick to creating FB pages for Radu that no one posts on.
Does he actually know you set it up?
You can add that to your own list of failed FB pages
https://www.facebook.com/events/269701819843665/?ref=22
Seek mental help
Youre like a piranha fish with no teeth.
big MC. can you tell your mascot here to go back to bis room on the UK forum..
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Seek mental help
Youre like a piranha fish with no teeth.
big MC. can you tell your mascot here to go back to bis room on the UK forum..
only if you tell your bff sev to stop posting my pms ;D
talking about pms you never posted me about that new stuff bro
interested to see what your running to look that yoked :-*
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is simone challenging you in the ring Joon? ;D
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I'm a talking about actual knowledge about training
1. Cedric mcmillian
2. Shawn ray
3. Dorian
4. Brandon curry
5. Ben p.insky
6.Toney freeman
.... Ronnie was impressive
Pros who I scratch my head about
Branch
Johnnie
Kevin levrone... I've watched some of his videos and some of the stuff he came out with ???
Here's one that I don't think anyone has cited: Bill Pearl
Edit - I stand corrected. Donny cited him.
Another one of my favorites: Mike Francois.
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is simone challenging you in the ring Joon? ;D
Great work, he looks smoother than he did weeks ago.
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Great work, he looks smoother than he did weeks ago.
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its an old pic he is trolling you for a reaction
classic sev
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its an old pic he is trolling you for a reaction
classic sev
Dont think so, its just gone on Radus FB page, theres another with Sevs ex, nice child bearing hips she has.
Sorry that should read Sevs shrine to Radu page.
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Steve Reeves
Lee Labrada
Lee Haney
Francis Benfatto
Bill Grant
Chuck Sipes
Franck Zane
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haha cool stuff .. yeah you can train with him for your upcoming bout but if I were you I would not worry. People like him get wings only when behind a keyboard. He is a self confessed shy guy in real life and has a mild form of mental disorder.
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No I am challenging the keyboard warrior, maybe you missed these videos I posted in other section. Preparations underway my side. 8)
Also currently negotiations under way for the Bigmc vs Wolfox match ;D
Can I come train with you and Radu one weekend in Romania, I would love that.
Peace
Rocky movies must have been on Tv last night! ::)
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thanks big wes, u r right about the ciba dbol bro,them things got me so strong and big within a month it was unreal, to this day ive never found any oral pill even close to them,or for that matter any injectable even near the results they brought
I hear ya` brother.....potent stuff and great results on even low dosages.
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thick nick - saying that if u are dieting and dehydrated for a show your cock will get smaller ;D
Bob - taught u it's only gay if u want it to be and something about ice machines at the mirage hotel.....
Tom prince - stay away from Advil
Craig - don't ever light your jaguar on fire in the middle of a desert
Lee priest - only a few d bols here, some deca, and a little bit of test.....
Phil Heath - always stand 3 feet in front of the white line during pre judging
LOL! Stay away from Advil, but 300mg Anadrol a day for 12 years is not a problem.
No one ever died from steroids.
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LOL! Stay away from Advil, but 300mg Anadrol a day for 12 years is not a problem.
No one ever died from steroids.
WOW, 300MG OF ANADROL
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Used to go to world gym Ronkonkoma ny, maybe 20 years ago. And every day ask questions to a guy there. Impressive physique. A year later saw him on a met rx ad. Was joe pacello ifbb pro. Asked him why he didn't saw, he just smiled. Was very down to earth. Good guy.
Working out at Adirondack barbell and getting to talk to bill Crawford every day and work out with them priceless ..
Read a lot on nutrition, and other basics.
Learned the most by actually competing. Best way to learn.
25 years later (started at 10) still learning .
Read some Dave tate, Eric cressey, etc
However it's not always best to learn from articles and dvd's. People have stated watching dvd's etc. That and in person are 2 different things. Things are changed for the dvd's. Plus you're seeing what a pro does now, not for the 20 years before. Plus you're probably not on the same "regimen" so to speak. Have seen people with glucose iv's to replenish, etc....
Watching dvd doesn't compare to actually experience. If you want to really learn, take the dive and compete... it's the best learning experience.
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agree with james, nothing beats experimenting on your own and leanring this way.. also helping others do the same is a great teacher