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« Reply #1000 on: January 06, 2016, 11:31:37 AM »
Another smear from Brit Hume on Ted Cruz:

"Fair and Balanced" according to Beach Bum ::)


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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1001 on: January 07, 2016, 03:54:42 PM »
Fearing Trump and Cruz, Republicans look to Rubio
By Ben Kamisar
01/07/16

The GOP establishment is beginning to coalesce around Marco Rubio’s presidential bid amid fears that a victory by Donald Trump or Ted Cruz would sink the party in November.

Weeks before the first round of primary voting, the Florida senator’s campaign has rolled out a series of high-profile congressional endorsements, including from House ­Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) on Wednesday.

Rubio is now just a handful of congressional endorsements behind former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, the onetime GOP front-runner and establishment pick.
The 44-year-old Cuban-American senator has long been seen by Republicans as the party’s best hope against Hillary Clinton. Many political observers believe Rubio, who has more than held his own on the debate stage, would be a solid contrast to Clinton, the top pick to win the Democratic nomination.

Polls bear that out. The RealClearPolitics average in head-to-head surveys shows Rubio with a 1.3 percent lead over Clinton, while she is tied with Texas Sen. Cruz and holds a 4.8-point lead on business mogul Trump.

Yet Rubio’s candidacy hasn’t caught fire.

He’s well behind both Trump and Cruz in national polls, and just ahead of retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, whose candidacy is flailing.

Worse, Rubio doesn’t appear to be a favorite in a single early-voting state.

He trails Cruz and Trump badly in Iowa and is well behind Trump in New Hampshire. He’s also struggling against Trump and Cruz in South Carolina.

Rubio also hasn’t had a campaign-defining moment yet that has significantly elevated his standing.

And on Wednesday, Chaffetz’s endorsement of the senator was overshadowed by a social media furor over his footwear: stylish black boots with a high heel.

Several of Rubio’s rivals mocked the boots, with Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) appearing in Whoopi Goldberg’s dressing room ahead of an appearance on “The View.”

“We’ve seen Rubio has those cute new boots, and I don’t want to be outdone,” Paul said in a video posted to Twitter.

Team Rubio is expressing confidence about his standing in the race.

“According to every metric we care about on the ground in the early states, we are definitely making progress towards doing very well in February,” spokesman Alex Conant said in an interview.

He called crowd sizes at events over the past week the “biggest of the entire campaign.”

“When Marco entered this race in April, the establishment was telling him to wait his turn and to run for reelection,” Conant said. “Other candidates continue to raise more money than us, but I don’t think there’s any question that Marco has gained significant momentum over the past few weeks.”

A new survey released Wednesday by Public Policy Polling did find Rubio in second place in New Hampshire and 4 points ahead of New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who has been gaining ground in the state.

Still, with 15 percent support, Rubio was well behind Trump’s 29 percent.

Rubio’s congressional endorsements are not likely to be game-changers, but they do suggest growing support for the Floridian to be his party’s standard-bearer.

Chaffetz, House Benghazi Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), former Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and Rep. Mia Love (R-Utah) are acting as surrogates, often appearing on cable television to speak on his behalf.

Conant noted Gowdy and Love aren’t seen by conservatives as establishment politicians either, which he said underscores Rubio’s broad coalition of support.

He added that the campaign will announce more congressional endorsements in the “coming weeks.”

One House Republican who spoke to The Hill on background said he’s been encouraged by his colleagues’ support of Rubio.

“I recognize the fact that if Rubio is our nominee, we’ve got a chance to really grow our vote share of Republicans,” said a GOP lawmaker who will not make a formal endorsement in the primary. “If Trump is our nominee, it will shrink the number. So I think it’s good for our party if Rubio is the nominee.

“When you have conservatives like Chaffetz and Gowdy get on board with Rubio, it tells me this internal thought process we’re having ... we’re coming to the right conclusion that we need the most conservative, electable candidate.”

The endorsements could also help Rubio with the GOP’s donor class, says Republican strategist and former senior congressional aide Ron Bonjean.

“If elected officials and members of Congress are starting to flood towards Rubio, that’s a sign for donors of where they might want to put their dollars,” he said. “Having these members out there is a signal to other [members] that this is where the trend is heading.”

Gowdy has already hit the trail to buttress concerns from the base over Rubio’s backing of a 2013 Senate bill reforming the nation’s immigration laws. The legislation remains a problem for Rubio because it’s made some conservatives view him with suspicion — something that has been fanned by Cruz.

“If I were not convinced that Marco Rubio was the person to ensure border security, interior security and employment security, I wouldn’t be wasting your time,” Gowdy said last week.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265023-fearing-trump-and-cruz-gop-looks-to-rubio

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1002 on: January 07, 2016, 07:01:05 PM »
Rubio ended up being just a little too much of a lightweight this time... Didnt embrace the spotlight at debates.  Average at best. 

he's the frontrunner for 2020 hilary challenger, i'm sure of that.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1003 on: January 11, 2016, 09:44:04 AM »
Jeb Bush Soars to Second in New Hampshire Poll

Image: Jeb Bush Soars to Second in New Hampshire Poll (Wire Services Photo)
By Cathy Burke   
Friday, 08 Jan 2016

Jeb Bush has vaulted into second place in a New Hampshire poll released Friday.

The NH1 News survey also shows Donald Trump retaining a commanding lead in the Republican presidential primary contest in the Granite State.

Here's the breakdown:
Trump: 31.7 percent
Bush: 11.9 percent
Ohio Gov. John Kasich: 11.8 percent
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie: 11 percent
Texas Sen. Ted Cruz: 9.7 percent
Florida Sen. Marco Rubio: 8.9 percent
Businesswoman Carly Fiorina: 4.6 percent
Retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson: 3.8 percent
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul: 3 percent
Former Pennsylvania Rick Santorum: 2.6 percent
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee: 1 percent
The telephone poll has a margin of error of 3 percent.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/jeb-bush-second-place-new-hampshire/2016/01/08/id/708795/#ixzz3wxVkS1Ml

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1004 on: January 11, 2016, 09:46:19 AM »
Billionaire Adelson Leans to Rubio, Wife Likes Cruz

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By Greg Richter   |   Sunday, 10 Jan 2016

GOP megadonor and casino magnate Sheldon Adelson has yet to commit to a Republican candidate, though he says he is leaning toward Florida Sen. Marco Rubio and his wife likes Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

But, The Hill reports, Adelson appears to be holding out in part to see who has the best chance to beat front-runner Donald Trump.

"The guy is cagey," one conservative leader who recently talked to Adelson told The Hill. "He said, 'I like Rubio,' he did not say, 'I support him'… But he also said that his spouse feels more strongly about Cruz."

Adelson four years ago backed his longtime friend Newt Gingrich, whose attack ads against eventual nominee Mitt Romney are blamed by some for Romney's loss to Barack Obama.

While Adelson may not want to see a repeat of that experience, he also lacks such close relationships with anyone in the current field, The Hill Notes.

Further, his giving is usually tied to the fortunes of his casinos, and his properties in Macau have been hit with an investigation by the Chinese government of big money gamblers while The Sands in Las Vegas has seen its share prices drop.

Adelson is still talking with Rubio and Cruz, as well as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, and all three are said to be holding out hope for Adelson's support.

"I suspect what he's doing now is sitting back and watching," Gingrich told The Hill. "Think about it as an investor. You've got 4-5 centrist conservatives sitting out there. You don't have any idea which one could emerge."

Sig Rogich, finance chair of Bush’s campaign in Nevada, said Adelson likely is waiting to see how the primaries play out as he has done in past elections, with the exception of Gingrich in 2012.

But one source told The Hill all of the speculation is nonsense.

"People who profess to be inside Sheldon's head or know what he's doing I would say are 99 percent full of s*** or trying to promote their own self importance," the source said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/adelson-support-gop-candidate/2016/01/10/id/708926/#ixzz3wxWJlfbD

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1005 on: January 11, 2016, 11:08:57 AM »
Fuck that pig.  Let him buy an island.

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« Reply #1006 on: January 11, 2016, 06:39:22 PM »
Good decision, although they should have dropped Kasich too.

GOP candidate lineup announced for Fox Business Network debate
Published January 11, 2016 
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Fox Business Network on Monday announced the candidate lineup for the Jan. 14 Republican presidential debates – and already one candidate has said he will not participate after not qualifying for the prime-time event.

The participants qualifying for the prime-time, 9 p.m. ET debate are:

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump; Texas Sen. Ted Cruz; Florida Sen. Marco Rubio; retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson; New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie; former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush; and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

The participants qualifying for the earlier, 6 p.m. ET debate are:

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul; former HP CEO Carly Fiorina; former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee; and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

However, the Paul campaign said Monday night it does not plan to participate.

This is the first time Paul has not qualified for a prime-time debate and his campaign, within minutes of the announcement, issued a statement complaining about the criteria.

“By any reasonable criteria Senator Paul has a top tier campaign,” his campaign said. “He will not let the media decide the tiers of this race and will instead take his message directly to the voters of New Hampshire and Iowa.”

The FBN debate lineup was decided based on the results of national, New Hampshire and Iowa polling. To qualify for the prime-time debate, a candidate had to place in the top six in an average of recent national polls, or in the top five in an average of recent Iowa or New Hampshire polls. ‎

The debate comes as front-runner Trump faces a rising challenge from Cruz, particularly in the caucus state of Iowa where the two are effectively tied for the lead.

The changing dynamic has fueled new tensions in the race, with Trump now openly questioning whether Cruz’ Canadian birth complicates his eligibility to run.

Trump’s comments have opened the door to other candidates and lawmakers exploring the issue – though Trump insists he’s only bringing it up because he’s concerned Democrats could use the issue against his GOP rival.

“I really don't know,” Trump told “Fox News Sunday.” “Does natural born mean born to the land? In that case he's not. But nobody knows what it means. … I speak well of Ted. I'm only saying that Ted has to get this problem solved because if he's running against a Democrat, and they bring a lawsuit, he's got a hell of a thing over his head.”

Cruz has brushed off calls to seek a court judgment on the issue.

“The son of a U.S. citizen born abroad is a natural-born citizen,” Cruz said in a CNN “State of the Union” interview aired Sunday. “The internet has all sorts of fevered swamp theories.”

Legal scholars have backed Cruz in saying he would qualify as a natural-born citizen, and therefore be eligible to run, because his mother is an American citizen.

Nationally, Trump enjoys a more comfortable lead, but an interesting and fluid race is developing in early-voting New Hampshire where several candidates are in a tight battle for the No. 2 slot behind Trump – and many voters remain undecided.

The latest Fox News poll showed Trump leads with 33 percent among New Hampshire Republican primary voters – behind him are Rubio at 15 percent, Cruz at 12 percent, Bush at 9 percent and Kasich at 7 percent.

The Thursday debates will be held at the North Charleston Coliseum and Performing Arts Center in North Charleston, S.C.

Anchor/Managing Editor of Business News Neil Cavuto and Anchor/Global Markets Editor Maria Bartiromo will moderate the prime-time debate; anchors Trish Regan and Sandra Smith will moderate the first debate.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/11/gop-candidate-line-up-announced-for-fox-business-network-debate.html?intcmp=hpbt3

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1007 on: January 12, 2016, 08:53:32 AM »
Trump And Cruz Have Trouble In The Middle
by David Brady
via Wall Street Journal
Sunday, January 10, 2016

A terrible way to forecast the 2016 contest is to gauge whose supporters are the loudest. Presidential elections are not decided by partisans or ideologues.

The arithmetic is pretty simple: 41% of voters in the 2012 presidential election described themselves as moderates, and 29% as independents. Almost all Republicans (93%) and self-described conservatives (82%) voted for Mitt Romney, but that wasn’t enough. Even if Mr. Romney had won every Republican or conservative voter, it still wouldn’t have been enough.

Because there are roughly 5% more Democrats than Republicans, the GOP needs a solid majority of independents to win a national election. In 2012 Mitt Romney outpolled Barack Obama among independents, 50% to 45%. But that didn’t take him across the electoral college finish line.

It is safe to predict that the proportions that held in 2012 will be about the same this year. About two-thirds of the voters will not be Republicans. Thus it is vital to pay early attention to how each of the candidates is doing among independents. A long, drawn-out primary that forces candidates to make strong appeals to the party’s ideological base can hurt the eventual nominee in November.

There are two ways that we can measure how independents see the Republican contenders. On the positive side, we can ask whether voters hold favorable views about a candidate. Or, on the negative side, we can ask whether they would rule out voting for a candidate. Those White House hopefuls with high favorability ratings among swing voters have good prospects for winning a general election. Those whom independents and moderates say they would not even consider supporting start with a deep, probably insurmountable, deficit.

The Internet polling organization YouGov has been tracking, since May 2015, a sample of 5,000 Americans, who have been asked roughly every six weeks about the presidential race. Although Donald Trump is leading in GOP primary polls, his ratings among independents are the worst of any candidate in the field.

In YouGov’s three most recent surveys, Mr. Trump was viewed “very unfavorably” by an average of 43% of independents. How does he fare among moderate voters? In August, only 17% of moderates had a “very favorable” opinion of him; 47% had a “very unfavorable” opinion. Those figures have hardly budged since.

Ted Cruz doesn’t do much better. Only 13% to 16% of independents had a very favorable view of him in YouGov’s three most recent surveys; 28% to 32% viewed him very unfavorably. Among moderates, almost no one (6% to 7%) feels “very favorable” about Mr. Cruz; many (28% to 35%) feel “very unfavorable.”

The problem for Messrs. Trump and Cruz is not that voters don’t know who they are. Mr. Trump started out with nearly everyone being able to rate him; only about 5% said they didn’t know or didn’t have an opinion. As for Mr. Cruz, in June about a quarter of independents did not know enough about him. But over the past six months that figure has dropped to 4%—and most of those voters moved into the “unfavorable” camp. Not a good sign.

Already, large proportions of independents and moderates say that they have made up their minds about the two Republican front-runners. A full 58% of moderates and 51% of independents told YouGov in December that they “would never vote for” Mr. Trump. The figures are a little better for Mr. Cruz, but still about half of moderates (47%) and almost as many independents (41%) say they would never pull the lever for him.

How can anyone, under the circumstances, expect either of these two to win a general election? For the GOP to regain the White House, it will have to do much better, particularly given Hillary Clinton’s better ratings. In December, 48% of moderates said they would consider voting for Mrs. Clinton—a full 16 percentage points better than Mr. Trump and 22 points better than Mr. Cruz.

Many of the other Republicans running for the 2016 nomination beat Mrs. Clinton’s numbers, and unlike Mr. Trump, none starts with more than half of swing voters unwilling to consider him. Marco Rubio is the most competitive among independents: 37% said in December that they would consider voting for him; only 32% ruled him out. All the other GOP candidates are under water. Forty-seven percent of independents said they would never vote for Jeb Bush, and 43% said the same about Chris Christie.

Moderates are a little harder on the GOP contenders. Mr. Rubio again comes in first: 35% would consider voting for him, and 36% wouldn’t. Thirty-five percent of moderates would also consider voting for Mr. Bush and Mr. Christie, but their negatives are much higher: 48% have ruled out Mr. Bush, and 44% Mr. Christie.

The candidate with the lowest negatives among swing voters is John Kasich: Only 30% of moderates and independents say they would never vote for him. The problem for Mr. Kasich is that about a fifth of these voters say they have never heard of him.

With a large field, the percentage of people who say they intend to vote for a candidate is less relevant than the percentage who say they will not vote for him. By this measure, the current GOP front-runners are doing very badly. As the Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary approach, Republicans may want to consider this if they are serious about one of their own becoming president.

http://www.hoover.org/research/trump-and-cruz-have-trouble-middle

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« Reply #1008 on: January 13, 2016, 07:53:44 AM »
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« Reply #1009 on: January 13, 2016, 08:57:34 AM »
Rubio is terrible.  The least trustworthy of them all, which takes some real effort.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1010 on: January 13, 2016, 09:31:51 AM »
Rubio is terrible.  The least trustworthy of them all, which takes some real effort.

rubio is a NOW guy, not a long term guy. 

dudes like cruz, they play the LONG conservative game.   Dudes like Rubio just adopt whatever position is hot, wahtever relationship moves them up, in hopes they're taking the oath of office before it all catches them.

if cruz loses in 2016, it's cool - he's the obvious conservative choice for 2020.
is rubio loses in 2016... WTF does he stand for in 2020? 

Rand made a similar mistake, abandoning the tea party too soon and becoming a centrist.  Ran would be cruz right now -way better name and face - but he shit all over the tea party who brung him.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1011 on: January 13, 2016, 10:12:58 AM »
One of those vicious attacks on Ted Cruz.   :)

'State of Denial': Ted Cruz Bashes Obama's State of the Union Address
Jan 12, 2016 // 11:40pm
As seen on The Kelly File

President Obama's final State of the Union address was more like "a state of denial," Ted Cruz said on "The Kelly File" tonight.

The Republican presidential contender told Megyn Kelly that he's not surprised that the president didn't mention the ten U.S. sailors held by Iran during his speech.

He said the fact that Iran felt comfortable seizing U.S. sailors and ships goes to show the "incredible weakness" of Obama's foreign policy.

“Bullies and tyrants across the world are not afraid of this president, don’t respect this president," Cruz said. "And it’s made the world much, much more dangerous.”

The Texas senator added that as out of touch as Obama has been on the economy and jobs, he's been even worse on national security.

Cruz called it "stunning" that the address had zero mentions of the terror attacks in Paris or San Bernardino.

"We need a commander-in-chief who will speak the name of our enemy - neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton is willing to do so - and who will do what it takes to defeat ... radical Islamic terrorism."

Watch more above.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/01/12/ted-cruz-bashes-obamas-state-union-address-kelly-file

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« Reply #1012 on: January 13, 2016, 10:17:50 AM »
One of those vicious attacks on Ted Cruz.   :)

'State of Denial': Ted Cruz Bashes Obama's State of the Union Address
Jan 12, 2016 // 11:40pm
As seen on The Kelly File

President Obama's final State of the Union address was more like "a state of denial," Ted Cruz said on "The Kelly File" tonight.

The Republican presidential contender told Megyn Kelly that he's not surprised that the president didn't mention the ten U.S. sailors held by Iran during his speech.

He said the fact that Iran felt comfortable seizing U.S. sailors and ships goes to show the "incredible weakness" of Obama's foreign policy.

“Bullies and tyrants across the world are not afraid of this president, don’t respect this president," Cruz said. "And it’s made the world much, much more dangerous.”

The Texas senator added that as out of touch as Obama has been on the economy and jobs, he's been even worse on national security.

Cruz called it "stunning" that the address had zero mentions of the terror attacks in Paris or San Bernardino.

"We need a commander-in-chief who will speak the name of our enemy - neither Barack Obama nor Hillary Clinton is willing to do so - and who will do what it takes to defeat ... radical Islamic terrorism."

Watch more above.

http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/01/12/ted-cruz-bashes-obamas-state-union-address-kelly-file

"State of Denial" haha I like that  ;D

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1013 on: January 13, 2016, 10:18:58 AM »
"State of Denial" haha I like that  ;D

Yep.  Check out the interview.  He did good.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1014 on: January 13, 2016, 10:20:27 AM »
Cannot write him off yet, unfortunately. 

Jeb Bush Jumps in Reuters Poll, Marco Rubio Drops

Jeb BushThe Associated Press
by NEIL MUNRO
12 Jan 2016

A new Reuters poll shows Gov. Jeb Bush climbing out of a deep hole — and he’s doing so by standing on the back of Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)79%.

The Jan. 12 result in Reuter’s rolling, five-day poll shows Bush at 10.6 percent, up 3 points from the cellar-floor level of 7.6 percent on Jan. 11. In turn, Rubio dropped from 7.4 percent on Jan. 11, to 6.7 percent, says the poll.

That shift is much-needed good news for Bush, who has been facing donor pressure to drop out of the race so that establishment supporters can consolidate their votes behind Rubio.

But it is also conditional good news for Trump, because Bush’s rise is likely to keep the GOP’s establishment candidates fighting each other as the Iowa and New Hampshire votes get closer.

Brain surgeon Ben Carson dropped from 13.5 percent on Jan. 10, down to 9.6 percent on Jan. 12, says Reuters. Donald Trump is still cruising high at 39 percent, but down 2.4 point from Jan. 11. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%
 was flat, at 14.5 percent on Jan. 12.

The Bush spike of three points is small in numerical terms — but it is the most notable shift in an otherwise stable polling data.

But Bush still has to make up ground in Iowa, where  he’s down at 4.6 percent, and in New Hampshire, where he’s at 8.7 percent, according to polls compiled by Real Clear Politics.

One possible cause for Bush’s national gain may be the barrage of anti-Rubio TV-ads being dropped by a Bush-backing Super-PAC, Right To Rise. Those ads have been funded by Bush’s huge take from big-business donors, and have slammed Rubio for missing votes and intelligence briefings, and also for flip-flopping on his 2010 election-trail promise to oppose any amnesty for migrants.

That last amnesty charge is ironic, because Bush favors an amnesty and his economic plan calls for a large inflow of white-collar foreign workers, whose arrival would likely cut wages for the white-collar, college-grad Americans who are a huge part of the GOP’s base.

“I view fixing a broken [immigration] system as a huge opportunity to get to that four percent [national economic] growth,” Bush told roughly 600 Detroit-region business leaders in February 2015. “We can grow by 4 percent through all sorts of policies, but immigration has to be a part of it,” he insisted.

http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2016/01/12/2764104/

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1015 on: January 13, 2016, 10:32:44 AM »
Cannot write him off yet, unfortunately. 

if the GOP nomination goes down to the convention, I still think jeb wins it.

he's like his dad... not all that popular, not all that in touch, not great with the masses, not a great speaker... BUT when he sits down at a table, he gets what he wants.

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« Reply #1016 on: January 13, 2016, 04:26:12 PM »
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens


Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) is doubling down on his support for in-state tuition for illegal aliens.

On ABC, George Stephanopoulos asked Rubio about his work in the Florida statehouse in which he "co-sponsored legislation to provide in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants." Stephanopolous asked Rubio directly: "Do you stand behind that position now?"

Rubio said that he "absolutely" stands behind that legislation:

RUBIO: It was a very narrowly drafted bill. You had to have a certain GPA, you had to live in the U.S. a long time, you had to graduate from a Florida high school. It was very narrowly tailored to high-performing students who found themselves in a situation where they were brought here by their parents when they were 5, didn't even speak another language except English and therefore couldn't attend college because they were being charged like they were from out of state. They still had to pay for college but they paid for what people paid when they lived in Florida. They had to be high school graduates of Florida.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So you stand behind that?

RUBIO: Yes, of a narrowly tailored bill like that, absolutely....

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2016/01/marco-rubio-i-absolutely-support.html#more

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1017 on: January 13, 2016, 07:56:28 PM »
MARCO RUBIO: I 'Absolutely' Support Tuition Breaks For Illegal Aliens


rubio is a douche.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1018 on: January 14, 2016, 02:58:56 PM »
Somebody's feelings are hurt. 

Rand gives media the bird
By Jesse Byrnes
January 14, 2016


Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) isn't going quietly after being dropped from the prime-time stage at the Republicans' next presidential debate, literally flipping off the media during an interview.

Paul reiterated during a radio interview on Thursday that he thinks "it's a mistake for the Republican Party to want to limit the debate and make it smaller."
 
"I think you have to make a strategic decision about what's good for your campaign," he said during the interview with ABC News Radio's Aaron Katersky broadcast on Periscope.

Paul argued that his boycott of the undercard debate is largely backed by his supporters.

"Ninety-nine percent of our supporters are calling in and saying —," raising his middle finger, "for the media, that's where you can go."

Fox Business has said that the Kentucky senator, who has appeared in the prime-time event at the previous five GOP debates, didn't meet the criteria for Thursday's main debate, based on his polling figures.

Paul said he will boycott the undercard debate, held for low-polling candidates, urging supporters on social media to "turn off" their TV and instead follow an online "national town hall" featuring him.

He has also gone on a media blitz leading up to the debate this week, arguing he presents a unique voice in debates and accusing the media of trying to decide the election for voters.

“I don’t think anybody in the media should decide or have an artificial designation on who can and who cannot win, and that’s what it does,” Paul said Wednesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”
 
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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1019 on: January 14, 2016, 03:01:52 PM »
Rand's been a loose cannon.   Remember him meeting with Dan Blizerian?

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1020 on: January 14, 2016, 03:15:26 PM »
Rand WTF are you doing??

Geez, talk about a hot head.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1021 on: January 15, 2016, 08:30:32 AM »
He tries to act tough, but he's an immature, hypersensitive sissy when it comes to people criticizing him.

Trump on Cruz: 'I Don't Know That He's a Nice Guy'
(MSNBC/"Morning Joe")
By Sandy Fitzgerald
Friday, 15 Jan 2016

Donald Trump has been saying for months that he thinks Ted Cruz is a "nice guy," but after Thursday night's debate, he's not so sure about that anymore.

"He came at me inappropriately," the GOP presidential front-runner told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program Friday morning during a live interview from "Java Joe's" in Des Moines, Iowa, after protesters briefly interrupted his appearance.

"He's got a problem and he's got to straighten out the problem."

Trump continued that the Texas senator had "a couple of suits filed against him running, which is exactly what I've been saying."

The two candidates Thursday night clashed on both the issue of Cruz' Canadian birthplace and on statements Cruz had made against Trump's "New York values," and on Friday, Trump acknowledged that Cruz is a "good debater, but very strident."

While Trump said he'd be concerned about Cruz facing legal challenges over his birthplace, Cruz responded that under some circumstances, Trump could face questions, as his own mother had come to the United States from Scotland.

"I don't know that he's a nice guy," said Trump, but he pointed out that he "checked the online polls and they have 200,000 or 300,00 people calling in and "I won every one of them. I'm happy about that."

Further, Trump said, "I thought Ted did not have a good night last night, and I thought his hit on New York was disgraceful . . . a lot of people are hitting him for what he said about New York. I thought it was terrible. You know you have offended about 20 million people and that's a lot of people."

Trump continued that Americans have embraced New York after the 9/11 attacks, and defended his hometown city.

"When you think about it, think about the firemen who run up the stairs and come in from Queens. And the tunnel, going 100 miles an hour and going up to save people," said Trump.

While they knew "the building has a big chance of coming down and the policemen and all these guys are going up and all the medical care running up the building. Those people say they're not coming down. This was an amazing thing."

Trump at one time had said he'd consider Cruz as as a running mate, but that appears to be over as well.

"He's not doing that well in South Carolina or nationally. What bothered me was when he lied. He said 'I've done well in the polls' and he hasn't," said Trump. "In fact, the poll that just came out he saw was NBC Wall Street Journal and the headline was Trump goes way up and Cruz goes way down."

But at this time, Trump said he doesn't want to think about a vice-president, but to "win first and then we can think about that." Further, he said he does not believe there will a brokered convention that would fight back against his nomination.
 
Trump also spoke on numerous issues in the live morning interview, including Tuesday's capture of 10 sailors by Iran's Revolutionary Guard.

"The only reason they're home is because we owed them $150 billion due in three days. Nobody ever mentions this," he said. "What about the other four prisoners they have there? We have forgotten about them. The minister, the reporter from The Washington Post. What about the four people there right now?"

Trump said if it were him, he would not be paying Iran the money promised in the deal, and would have said it was broken with "the way they treated our young sailors . . . they're sitting on their knees in a begging position with hands up and guns at the back of their head and we're suppose to say they treated us nicely."

On other topics:
Winning states: "I'm going to win states they've never thought of winning. I have a chance of winning New York state. We're going to win West Virginia big and win Virginia and win places . . . nobody else is going to win. We're going to win New Jersey and Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio. We're going to win places that a lot of people aren't going to win. We're going to have the largest turnout in the history of the country. Most of those people have never voted before because they're tired of being run and lead by stupid people."

Crowd sizes: "Something has hit the heart. It's like a love fest. Pensacola sent away 7,000 people."

Jobs: "People look for a job and give up and now they're considered employed. It's a phony number, a number meant for politicians to make them look good. When you say 5.2 percent  in this country, there's no way. If it was that number, I wouldn't have 35,000 people coming to rallies. Believe me. They would not be coming."

Mexico: "The leaders of Mexico are cunning. They're more cunning than our leaders and taking advantage. Companies are moving. Nabisco just left moving their big plant to Mexico. Everybody's going to Mexico. We're losing so much."

National spirit: "We need spirit . . . people love this country, but they don't have a cheerleader. I thought [Barack Obama] would be a great cheerleader. I never thought he was going to be a good president. I thought he would be a good cheerleader. He's a divider. He's not a cheerleader, he's a divider."
Bill Clinton's history: "I hate to do it. She made one statement about me and I hate to bring that up. I can't believe he's having a great time on the trail. You look at their life and all of the problems together with Whitewater and one problem after another . . . I'm saying he's got difficulties and problems and if they want to play the dirty card — and I don't think they will — but if they want to, they've got a lot of problems. There are those who said she's an enabler. I don't want to get into it too much . . . I want to put people back to work and bring spirit back to the country."

Background checks and gun control: "You can't touch the Second Amendment. We have so many checks and balances. You take a look at Paris and California recently with the 14 people killed. If there were guns in that room, you wouldn't had 130 people killed in Paris. You wouldn't have had 14 people killed in Los Angeles . . . you have a lot of background checks now. The government doesn't use them."

Infrastructure: We're spending trillions of dollars in the Middle East, the whole thing is just like a total disaster . . . infrastructure is important, transportation, all that — schools, bridges, tunnels, roads. You look at these roads and highways with the horrible railings. You know the stuff that warps. Somebody is the greatest salesman in the country. This guy, I want to find out who he is. He has to be so wealthy. It's such garbage."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Trump-Cruz-GOP-Debate/2016/01/15/id/709599/#ixzz3xKavT900

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1022 on: January 15, 2016, 08:32:56 AM »
Death sentence for his campaign if and when they jump ship.

Bush donors await green light to jump ship
‘I need you to throw away money on Jeb — out of loyalty,’ a fundraiser told donors.
By ANNA PALMER and BEN WHITE
01/15/16

Jeb Bush's money spigot is shutting off as the donor class believes it is just a matter of time before the candidate they threw so much money behind drops out of the race. | AP Photo

When Jeb Bush announced a record fundraising haul in July, the Florida Republican rewarded major donors with a two-day celebratory retreat at the family compound in Kennebunkport, Maine. They also delivered a message: $114 million was just the beginning of how much cash they would need to win.

Now, seven months later and just 17 days before the first ballots are cast, Bush’s donors are no longer high-fiving or strategizing how to keep funds flowing. Instead, the money spigot is shutting off as the donor class believes it is just a matter of time before the candidate they threw so much money behind drops out of the race.

POLITICO talked to nearly two dozen major donors, and most say they are waiting for what one veteran Republican and former Bush 43 administration appointee described as the "family hall pass" to jump to another campaign after the New Hampshire primary.

“I’m resigned to it being over, frankly. It’s really disappointing,” said one top Bush Wall Street donor. “I’d urge him to get out after New Hampshire if he doesn’t do well, but he probably won’t."

The deterioration of the Bush campaign has been a humbling experience for his fundraisers. A year ago, even before he was a candidate, Bush's team was locking down donors across the country and getting commitments for six- and seven-figure checks with little trouble. Donors were pitted against each other to see who could raise more and be in the good graces of the man who, at the time, was described by many in Bush World as the inevitable nominee.

Now the fundraising pitch is decidedly different.

"Hey, I need you to throw away money on Jeb — out of loyalty," a Bush fundraiser has told donors recently.

Rival campaigns are watching Bush's finance operation closely and have been working behind the scenes to lay the groundwork to poach his donor network. So far, a top Florida Republican fundraiser, Brian Ballard, has been one of the only notable defections to Sen. Marco Rubio's camp after Bush's campaign attacked Rubio.

"Donors I've talked to are desperate not to abandon Jeb because of their long bonds and loyalty with the family, but they are also recognizing there is no ROI [return on investment] on this campaign," said Rick Wilson, a veteran Florida political operative who is backing Rubio. "The sense of these folks is it is so sad. They whisper to each other, 'When will Jeb go?'"

Contingency planning among the donor set is in full force. Much of Bush’s Wall Street support network will shift to Rubio. Even those who still see an outside shot for the former Florida governor expect Rubio to emerge as the establishment alternative to Donald Trump and Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

“I think Jeb has the best qualities to be the president, he’s just not doing the world’s best job of getting there,” said a top Wall Street executive who has donated and raised money for Bush. “My attitude is still wait and see what happens. I can’t believe Donald Trump is going to get the nomination. As long as there is still all this insanity there is hope for Jeb.”

But once Bush is out, this donor said he was ready to move on to Rubio. “If Jeb were to get out for any reason, most of his support would go to Marco.”

But many of Bush’s donors, especially those in finance and on Wall Street, say 2016 simply might be a bad year for a traditional, establishment contender. Rubio and their next preferred player, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, likely don’t have great shots at the nomination either, one donor suggested.

“Expectations are not super high [for Bush]. But people are giving him room to try and break out in New Hampshire,” that donor said. “But if it doesn’t happen, pretty much everyone is thinking about the three-way alternative: Trump, Cruz or, gulp, [Hillary] Clinton. There isn't a sense though that Rubio or Christie have got a much better path than Jeb because they are establishment too.”

The Bush campaign continues to make the case in conference calls to supporters that the one-time front-runner still has a pathway to the nomination. And several donors praised Bush’s finance operation as one of the best they've ever seen.

"We are grateful for the support we have and are confident in our plan to win," said Bush spokeswoman Allie Bradenburger in an email. "Jeb will continue to campaign hard in states across the nation as our momentum for his message and record of experience continues to grow."

Dave Beightol, a Washington-area Bush supporter, said that he was encouraged by reports from bundlers who had been door-knocking in early primary states.

"Surging may be too strong of a word, but he is moving up quite dramatically," Beightol said. "This town is full of regurgitators. You have to go beyond the regurgitators ... Actually, a number of bundler types went door-to-door to get a feel for this and reported on it today. They were very excited about [what they saw] in the field."

Still, the pace of Bush fundraisers has also slowed significantly as the candidate has turned his attention to early primary states. On Sunday, Bush was spotted at brunch at the Biltmore in Miami before hitting the golf course at the Coral Gables Country Club. By contrast, Rubio held court in front of roughly 300 supporters at a Palm Beach fundraiser at the home of Bridget and Bill Koch.

Bush's operation still continues to do fundraisers. Dan Runde, a member of Bush's national fundraising committee, laid out his pitch in an email invitation for a Wednesday event in Virginia with Columba Bush.

"We want to win the general election. We think we need to broaden our Republican base in order to win as we have not broken 50 percent in the last two elections," Runde wrote, noting that he isn't concerned about national polls and that the Republican nominating process will go until May.

Bush also has a fundraiser in Palm Beach Jan. 25 at the home of Kara and Steve Ross.

In part, Republican operatives said Bush has been the victim of too high expectations.

"All of the major donors to Jeb and initial donors to Jeb who thought he was going to leap to a lead and never lose it are disappointed," said Fred Malek, finance co-chair of John McCain's 2008 presidential bid and an appointee in President George H.W. Bush's administration.

And while struggling campaigns often devolve into a blame game of consultants, donors and campaign staff, so far Bush's operation has run fairly seamlessly.

"The remarkable thing about Team Jeb is how well they are sticking together through the bad times," said Ron Kaufman, a top strategist to Mitt Romney during his 2012 presidential bid. "And there is an honest to God, real Bush network that is somewhat latent in places across the country that with a modicum of good news I think will become energized."

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/jeb-bush-donors-loyalty-217802#ixzz3xKbhp3g6

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1023 on: January 15, 2016, 08:35:19 AM »
Link to the 14 January debate: 



Good performances across the board.  I thought Cruz, Rubio, and Christie were the best. 

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1024 on: January 15, 2016, 08:58:20 AM »
He tries to act tough, but he's an immature, hypersensitive sissy when it comes to people criticizing him.

Wait until he's issuing sanctions or moving troops based upon mean statements by #3 or #4 guys in other countries posturing for their base.  Wait until countries stop letting us use airspace or start dropping the dollar because he insulted their leaders for meaningless reasons.

President Trump is going to be a train wreck.  And while the mature, sophisticated Republicans know it... I think the duller republicans (who are starting to see the massive Trump/MSNBC connection) may be waking up to it.  By the time they accept it, Trump will have enough primary wins to get the nomination.