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Title: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 07, 2009, 07:42:24 AM
Just reported.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: JimmyJam1974 on February 07, 2009, 07:47:24 AM
Just reported.
by whom? links?
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 07, 2009, 07:47:33 AM
haha yeah right. I doubt he's ever even done a test seeing as he competes in musclemania.

Not THAT douche.....this douche....

(http://hitdawall.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/a-rod.jpg)
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: tleilaxutank on February 07, 2009, 07:48:33 AM
Big Shock.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 07, 2009, 07:49:02 AM
by whom? links?

Sports Illustrated is reporting it.....just heard it on ESPN as a newsflash....
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: McFarland on February 07, 2009, 07:50:32 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/07/alex-rodriguez-steroids/index.html
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: MAXX on February 07, 2009, 07:53:54 AM
oh sry missread was thinking of that jrod dude :S
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: EwaBeachBoy on February 07, 2009, 08:03:16 AM
Im going to add him to my breaking the law thread!!
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: QuakerOats on February 07, 2009, 08:04:47 AM
who gives a shit.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 07, 2009, 08:11:01 AM
who gives a shit.

haha, obviously the mainstream sports media.  This will be THE sports story for a couple of months at least.  I bet Bonds is happy.  Takes a little heat off of him.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 07, 2009, 08:45:18 AM
Holy Fuck.  The New York media is going to rip him a new asshole, big time.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: QuakerOats on February 07, 2009, 08:47:02 AM
haha, obviously the mainstream sports media.  This will be THE sports story for a couple of months at least.  I bet Bonds is happy.  Takes a little heat off of him.
the media are JEALOUS plain and simple, the guy was born with abilities they only dream about and has a 275 million dollar contract while they go home to their 1800 square foot ranch home and eat hamburger helper for dinner, the weak ALWAYS hate the strong.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: DeketheCreep on February 07, 2009, 08:49:44 AM
wow he the youngest player to 500 home runs,i see why now hahahah
will they take his MVP that he won in 03 away??
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: QuakerOats on February 07, 2009, 08:53:37 AM
wow he the youngest player to 500 home runs,i see why now hahahah
will they take his MVP that he won in 03 away??
the man is a mere 33 years old and already has 553 home runs, 1606 RBI's, a .306 lifetime batting average and is a 3-time MVP.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Coach on February 07, 2009, 09:07:02 AM
Not a surprise at all. If I've said once I'll say it a million times, at least 70% or more in the MLB (or almost any sport) are on something.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2009, 09:08:44 AM
Not a surprise at all. If I've said once I'll say it a million times, at least 70% or more of my 9th grade "clients" are on something.

fixed.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Coach on February 07, 2009, 09:08:55 AM
BTW, you just know he's going to deny it or say he is now clean.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Coach on February 07, 2009, 09:09:41 AM
fixed.

Don't make an ass of yourself.........again!
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Fury on February 07, 2009, 09:10:17 AM
the media are JEALOUS plain and simple, the guy was born with abilities they only dream about and has a 275 million dollar contract while they go home to their 1800 square foot ranch home and eat hamburger helper for dinner, the weak ALWAYS hate the strong.

Exactly. A-Rod, much like the majority of MLB players, was enhanced. Who gives a shit. Going to see another month of anti-steroid crusades by the media now.  ::)
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on February 07, 2009, 09:10:19 AM
BTW, you just know he's going to deny it or say he is now clean.
Coach, since you know Rory Leidelmeyer is there any truth to the rumor that Matt Mendenhall was a Pedophile?
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2009, 09:11:11 AM
Don't make an ass of yourself.........again!
;)
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Coach on February 07, 2009, 09:16:40 AM
Coach, since you know Rory Leidelmeyer is there any truth to the rumor that Matt Mendenhall was a Pedophile?

What does Rory have to do with Matt besides competing against one another? BTW, I've never heard that about Matt. Post your source or it's your typical lie and false rumor.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on February 07, 2009, 09:17:54 AM
What does Rory have to do with Matt besides competing against one another? BTW, I've never heard that about Matt. Post your source or it's your typical lie and false rumor.
Rory said it on NBR. He said Matt Mendenhall had left the state because he was a pedophile. You can check the episode prior to New Years where it is highlighted or find the episode they did with Rory.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2009, 09:19:21 AM
I am a huge Yankee fan who has always hated Alex Rodriquez, despite having complete respect for his abilities.  Every year it's something different with this idiot.

I believe QO and BF are right on the money with their comments.

MLB caused this mess by ignoring everything in the late 90s, now they just have to accept it as part of their history and move forward.

But, if ARod's the only name that gets leaked from the 2003 test, it's complete bullshit.  
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2009, 09:21:02 AM
I am a huge Yankee fan who has always hated Alex Rodriquez, despite having complete respect for his abilities.  Every year it's something different with this idiot.

I believe QO and BF are right on the money with their comments.

MLB caused this mess by ignoring everything in the late 90s, now they just have to accept it as part of their history and move forward.

But, if ARod's the only name that gets leaked from the 2003 test, it's complete bullshit.  

Does this make Mark McGwire's entry into the Hall of Fame any more feasible?
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: QuakerOats on February 07, 2009, 09:22:10 AM
Does this make Mark McGwire's entry into the Hall of Fame any more feasible?
McGwire isn't HOF material REGARDLESS of the steroids stuff, he was a one trick pony, home runs is all he ever did.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2009, 09:25:18 AM
McGwire isn't HOF material REGARDLESS of the steroids stuff, he was a one trick pony, home runs is all he ever did.

Yeah I never was much of a baseball fan, but I got friends that are like wizards with all the statistical stuff and fantasy league information, they try to explain it to me and it's like their speaking another language.

I just know he hit a bunch of home runs, other than that my knowledge of him is nil.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Awesomo on February 07, 2009, 09:25:40 AM
This shit is so stupid. Everyone in baseball used steriods back then (and probably now). There wasn't even a rule against it. I could give a shit if they use roids. Baseball is so fucking boring without them (and barely better with them). I say let all athletes juice, it will only increase my enjoyment of the game.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on February 07, 2009, 09:27:30 AM
What does Rory have to do with Matt besides competing against one another? BTW, I've never heard that about Matt. Post your source or it's your typical lie and false rumor.
Rory said it on NBR. He said Matt Mendenhall had left the state because he was a pedophile. You can check the episode prior to New Years where it is highlighted or find the episode they did with Rory. Speak on this Coach. You claim to know Rory. Certainly this juicy piece of gossip was brought up atleast once.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: QuakerOats on February 07, 2009, 09:30:28 AM
Yeah I never was much of a baseball fan, but I got friends that are like wizards with all the statistical stuff and fantasy league information, they try to explain it to me and it's like their speaking another language.

I just know he hit a bunch of home runs, other than that my knowledge of him is nil.
his career stats were pretty good but i just don't see him as a HOF player, who knows, he has 583 home runs, 1414 RBI's, a career .263 batting average and 1626 hits.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Coach on February 07, 2009, 09:33:01 AM
Rory said it on NBR. He said Matt Mendenhall had left the state because he was a pedophile. You can check the episode prior to New Years where it is highlighted or find the episode they did with Rory. Speak on this Coach. You claim to know Rory. Certainly this juicy piece of gossip was brought up atleast once.

I don't listen to bodybuilding radio so I didn't hear the interview, but the next time I see him I will ask.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on February 07, 2009, 09:34:00 AM
I don't listen to bodybuilding radio so I didn't hear the interview, but the next time I see him I will ask.
Please return with the details and pm me the link.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Wiggs on February 07, 2009, 09:34:06 AM
Now I know what A-rod was doing at the Mr. O when I saw him and his wife there in 03. :)
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Coach on February 07, 2009, 09:36:14 AM
Does this make Mark McGwire's entry into the Hall of Fame any more feasible?

Well, unless he too tested positive or admitted to steroid use his induction should be a non-issue. The sports writers IMO are wrong to deny his induction based on hear-say.

Like it not, since the majority of these guys are on something, it's an even playing field.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: thelamefalsehood on February 07, 2009, 09:36:47 AM
The article said he tested positive for test and Primobolan. His stats were actually worse in 2003 than in 2002, the year he tested positive(2003). Nobody would give a shit about this if the little dweeb sports writers who have never played sports a day in their life wouldn't make such a big deal about it.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Coach on February 07, 2009, 09:37:12 AM
Please return with the details and pm me the link.

What link? He lives 3 mins from me.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Hedgehog on February 07, 2009, 09:41:38 AM
What link? He lives 3 mins from me.

Do you know what Japanese people call Rory Leidelmeyer?
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The_Leafy_Bug on February 07, 2009, 09:42:13 AM
What link? He lives 3 mins from me.
Im saying start a thread and link me to it or PM me the details of that conversation. I want to know how he know the exact details of what happened. I just don't see Matt being a pedophile.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Coach on February 07, 2009, 09:43:14 AM
Do you know what Japanese people call Rory Leidelmeyer?

I'm afraid to ask.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Hedgehog on February 07, 2009, 09:44:18 AM
I'm afraid to ask.

Loly Leidelmeyel.

Tell him that next time you meet him. 8)
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2009, 09:44:34 AM
The sports writers IMO are wrong to deny his induction based on hear-say.

Very true.

My biggest problem is that only the good players are getting smeared.  The Randy Velarde's and Benito Santiago's of the league get away clean.

I'm mixed on the Mcguire thing, and I'd have to look at his numbers with a little more scrutiny before I decide what I think of his potential HoF induction.  But, stats aside, he and Sosa made 1998 MAGIC for this country, baseball wise.  They brought the  game back from the strike year.  I think there's some weight that should be added for that.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: QuakerOats on February 07, 2009, 09:47:08 AM
Very true.

My biggest problem is that only the good players are getting smeared.  The Randy Velarde's and Benito Santiago's of the league get away clean.

I'm mixed on the Mcguire thing, and I'd have to look at his numbers with a little more scrutiny before I decide what I think of his potential HoF induction.  But, stats aside, he and Sosa made 1998 MAGIC for this country, baseball wise.  They brought the  game back from the strike year.  I think there's some weight that should be added for that.
i don't think a .263 career batting average, 1600 hits or 1400 RBI's are good enough numbers to be in the HOF honestly.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 07, 2009, 09:49:13 AM
i don't think a .263 career batting average, 1600 hits or 1400 RBI's are good enough numbers to be in the HOF honestly.

I think the only chance he has is because he has a WS ring.  Somthing A-Rod, with all his talent, does not.  Not that I agree with that.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Benny B on February 07, 2009, 09:53:03 AM
the man is a mere 33 years old and already has 553 home runs, 1606 RBI's, a .306 lifetime batting average and is a 3-time MVP.
...and chokes in the clutch EVERY time, hence ZERO rings.  ::)

Can you say, A-FRAUD?
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: QuakerOats on February 07, 2009, 09:54:31 AM
...and chokes in the clutch EVERY time, hence ZERO rings.  ::)

Can you say, A-FRAUD?
yes and i suppose the other 8 guys on the field with him are not to blame at all. ::)
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2009, 09:56:48 AM
...and chokes in the clutch EVERY time, hence ZERO rings.  ::)

Can you say, A-FRAUD?

I see your politcial idiocy translates to baseball as well.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2009, 10:01:50 AM
i don't think a .263 career batting average, 1600 hits or 1400 RBI's are good enough numbers to be in the HOF honestly.

I hear you on those stats, but check out some of his other numbers, particlarly OPS+.   Without getting technical, they are numbers that adust for league and the parks the players played in. (i.e. - it tries to balance out those who got to play in Coors field, or play in the NL West instead of the AL East....etc.)  If you consider a league average player to have an OPS+ of 100, look how much more productive McGuire was than the league average:   

 http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcgwima01.shtml

Still, though, you may be right.  I'm on the fence about him right now.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2009, 10:05:14 AM
I hear you on those stats, but check out some of his other numbers, particlarly OPS+.   Without getting technical, they are numbers that adust for league and the parks the players played in. (i.e. - it tries to balance out those who got to play in Coors field, or play in the NL West instead of the AL East....etc.)  If you consider a league average player to have an OPS+ of 100, look how much more productive McGuire was than the league average:   

 http://www.baseball-reference.com/m/mcgwima01.shtml

Still, though, you may be right.  I'm on the fence about him right now.

See Quaker, these are the guys I was telling you about, I am sure he knows his shit but that above quote was like reading the Egyptian hieroglyphics.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Benny B on February 07, 2009, 10:06:40 AM
yes and i suppose the other 8 guys on the field with him are not to blame at all. ::)
What do the eight other players have to do with him striking out in big spots, fat man? Do they need to hold the bat for him too?  ::)
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Benny B on February 07, 2009, 10:07:34 AM
I see your politcial idiocy translates to baseball as well.
haha
Another defeated McCain supporter who cries himself to sleep every night.  ;D
Kill yourself.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2009, 10:10:19 AM
See Quaker, these are the guys I was telling you about, I am sure he knows his shit but that above quote was like reading the Egyptian hieroglyphics.

lol.

I'm not just someone who reads stats and doesn't watch the games.  There's a lot of other stuff that goes on that's not recorded in the numbers.

I guess what I was trying to say is that the media and fans fall in love with stats that might not be the best indicators of whether a player is good or not.  RBIs is a good one.  Yes, the best players get a lot of them.   But RBIs are also largely the product of opportunity, meaning guys who don't have other players getting on base for them won't have as many RBIs as those who do.    A guy hitting in Coors is going to have better power numbers than an equal player playing in San Diego.  Just stuff like that.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2009, 10:11:35 AM
haha
Another defeated McCain supporter who cries himself to sleep every night.  ;D
Kill yourself.

Wow.  You actually posted one of your own thoughts.  What's the matter, you couldn't find a link to an article that did it for you?

And, for the record, I always said I disliked McCain.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Rammer on February 07, 2009, 10:15:00 AM
I worked out at the same gym A-rod worked out in back in the early 90's, Paradise Gym in Coral Gables, FL.  A-rod was a real sissy in the gym.  Alfonso Martinez trained him back then and he would struggle with a 45 on each side of the leg press and he'd whine like a little girl when the lactic acid built up, quitting his sets and crying for "no more".
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: polychronopolous on February 07, 2009, 10:18:11 AM
lol.

I'm not just someone who reads stats and doesn't watch the games.  There's a lot of other stuff that goes on that's not recorded in the numbers.

I guess what I was trying to say is that the media and fans fall in love with stats that might not be the best indicators of whether a player is good or not.  RBIs is a good one.  Yes, the best players get a lot of them.   But RBIs are also largely the product of opportunity, meaning guys who don't have other players getting on base for them won't have as many RBIs as those who do.    A guy hitting in Coors is going to have better power numbers than an equal player playing in San Diego.  Just stuff like that.

Oh yeah, I didn't mean any disrespect.

If I am flipping through the channels and I hear a few sports reporters making arguments for a player getting in the HOF or not, I generally stop and actually watch because it is pretty fascinating to hear them all make their points in the manner that they do.

That is saying alot because the only sports I stop to watch nowadays are boxing and football...and the triple crown if I can catch it.

Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2009, 10:42:39 AM
Oh yeah, I didn't mean any disrespect.

If I am flipping through the channels and I hear a few sports reporters making arguments for a player getting in the HOF or not, I generally stop and actually watch because it is pretty fascinating to hear them all make their points in the manner that they do.

That is saying alot because the only sports I stop to watch nowadays are boxing and football...and the triple crown if I can catch it.



Oh, none taken.

Sports reporters are a goofy bunch.  They try come across like experts, but if you really listen, they're all just big fans with the same biases.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Benny B on February 07, 2009, 12:02:48 PM
Wow.  You actually posted one of your own thoughts.  What's the matter, you couldn't find a link to an article that did it for you?
nope

Quote
And, for the record, I always said I disliked McCain.

So you're just a bitter, butt-hurt anti-Obama person who cries himself to sleep at night. Got it.  ;D Your kind likes to vent on the internet a lot these days.  :-\
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: tbombz on February 07, 2009, 12:06:25 PM
could have just read "vindicated" and would have known this a long time ago
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Grape Ape on February 07, 2009, 12:32:56 PM
nope

So you're just a bitter, butt-hurt anti-Obama person who cries himself to sleep at night. Got it.  ;D Your kind likes to vent on the internet a lot these days.  :-\

I'm sure it makes you feel good to think people who voted against Obama feel this way, but it's not the case with me.  I want him now deliver on all the good he's promised. 

Have you seen me posting on the internet venting about it?  Nope, you're wrong once more.  Try again, dummy.

I'll give you time to google and visit the Huffington Post so you know how you feel.
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: Benny B on February 08, 2009, 09:13:27 AM
I'm sure it makes you feel good to think people who voted against Obama feel this way, but it's not the case with me.  I want him now deliver on all the good he's promised. 

Have you seen me posting on the internet venting about it?  Nope, you're wrong once more.  Try again, dummy.

I'll give you time to google and visit the Huffington Post so you know how you feel.
hahaha
Looks like someone is so obsessed over my political views that they were willing to derail a thread in order to "confront" me. I'm so far in your head you'll need a neurosurgeon to get me out.  ;D

Funny thing is, I never even heard of "Grape Ape". What a name...hahaha, oh brother.  ::) 
Title: Re: A-Rod tested positive for steroids in 2003
Post by: gordiano on February 08, 2009, 09:24:01 AM
Not a surprise at all. If I've said once I'll say it a million times, at least 70% or more in the MLB (or almost any sport) are on something.

Exactly.


Another tainted player.....baseball needs to just accept it and move on. The drugs aren't going anywhere, as long as theses guys are making fortunes to play a kids game.