HA HA HA HA....you guys and your "good form"! Hey, while you guys are all staring into the mirror making sure your barbell curls all look like the ones you saw Cory do on Bodyshaping Dave was out winning big contests....HA HA MORONS! What Dave is doing is called wringing every last drop out of his muscles on every set. Believe me I know, I have trained with him from the very beginning, he does train hard and it's never about ego and noise it's about results and winning. He's the most honest hard working bodybuilder you'll ever find. RTB is a cool project, hands down. Well worth the money