Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TK on February 06, 2008, 12:54:04 PM

Title: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: TK on February 06, 2008, 12:54:04 PM
Will Hidetada be deported back to Japan?




It was a good day in court for Hidetada Yamagishi.

Yamagishi was arrested at Los Angeles International Airport on December 8 and charged with six felonies and three misdemeanors. Today, Wednesday February 6, at Los Angeles Superior Court all felony charges were dismissed along with two misdemeanor counts, as Yamagishi pled no contest to one misdemeanor count of possession of Viagra without a prescription. Yamagishi was sentenced to 24 months of summary probation with credit for time served, which amounted to 91 days - the 61 days Yamagishi has been incarcerated in the North County Correctional Facility in Castaic, California and 30 days credit for good time served. According to Yamagishi's defense attorney Shawn Chapman Holley, the scenario was the best possible outcome for Yamagishi.

More on the story here...

http://www.flexonline.com/hidetadayamagishidecision/news/318
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 06, 2008, 01:46:18 PM
Will Hidetada be deported back to Japan?




It was a good day in court for Hidetada Yamagishi.

Yamagishi was arrested at Los Angeles International Airport on December 8 and charged with six felonies and three misdemeanors. Today, Wednesday February 6, at Los Angeles Superior Court all felony charges were dismissed along with two misdemeanor counts, as Yamagishi pled no contest to one misdemeanor count of possession of Viagra without a prescription. Yamagishi was sentenced to 24 months of summary probation with credit for time served, which amounted to 91 days - the 61 days Yamagishi has been incarcerated in the North County Correctional Facility in Castaic, California and 30 days credit for good time served. According to Yamagishi's defense attorney Shawn Chapman Holley, the scenario was the best possible outcome for Yamagishi.

More on the story here...

http://www.flexonline.com/hidetadayamagishidecision/news/318



Wait....  ALL charges were dismissed, except having friggin' viagra w/o a script??   :o  WTF, that doesn't even sound like a plea deal... that sounds like they had no case to begin with.  Either that, or he gave them a really BIG fuccking fish they've been after.  ;)

So...  when does he get deported?   (heck, if the only remaining charge is "viagra w/o a prescription", that might not even happen.)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 01:50:28 PM
Jesus, that's about the saddest thing I've ever read. He served time for having viagra w/o a script?

Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 01:52:31 PM


  Either that, or he gave them a really BIG fuccking fish they've been after.  ;)

Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: DK II on February 06, 2008, 01:55:35 PM
oh boy...

i don't understand american laws at all...
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: calmus on February 06, 2008, 01:57:23 PM
The ever-cynical "goatboy" appears to be on to something.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chainsaw on February 06, 2008, 01:58:42 PM
He gave a Whale away, and he's gonna voluntarily leave because so many people are going to be after his ass!  Gosh, in a weird way, you have to empathize with the guy.  He's probably a very nice guy that just got toooooo caught up.

Hell, with all that test, who would need viagra?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Honour on February 06, 2008, 03:23:18 PM
This is some crazy shit right here......viagra wtf :o?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 06, 2008, 03:29:06 PM
hahaha his lawyer done great job!


I'm sure that was it...  no way was there a quid pro quo here.   ;)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Spoony Luv on February 06, 2008, 03:32:28 PM
How much viagra does it take to get 3 inches hard :-\
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Special Ed on February 06, 2008, 03:42:12 PM
People obviously don't understand what a plea bargain is. I'll summarize. A man is accused of trying to kill his girlfriend by setting her house on fire. He's charged with attempted murder, attempted assault, burglary, trespass, arson, and malicious burning. He's arrested and can't make bail so he sits in jail for six months. The gov knows they won't be able to convict him of attempted murder because it would be nearly impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he knew she was home at the time. They could try him on the other top charges but the gov likes to keep their 97 percent conviction rates intact. With the guy already having spent six months in the can, which is about the same amount of time he'd have spent if he was found guilty of arson, the gov let's him plead out to one count of malicious burning, gets their conviction, puts the guy on five years probation and let's him walk with time served.

It doesn't mean he didn't try to kill his girlfriend by burning down her house while she slept. It just means that the gov has too many cases to try every single one and if they're satisfied with the outcome, they will let people plead out. The gov makes offers every day and most people take them.

The gov made Hide an offer he couldn't refuse. He rotted in jail for two months which is no cakewalk considering guys get popped with drugs at tijuana border everyday and walk free. Hide did his time, the gov got him in the system and now INS decides what to do.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: The Master on February 06, 2008, 03:54:35 PM
People obviously don't understand what a plea bargain is. I'll summarize. A man is accused of trying to kill his girlfriend by setting her house on fire. He's charged with attempted murder, attempted assault, burglary, trespass, arson, and malicious burning. He's arrested and can't make bail so he sits in jail for six months. The gov knows they won't be able to convict him of attempted murder because it would be nearly impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he knew she was home at the time. They could try him on the other top charges but the gov likes to keep their 97 percent conviction rates intact. With the guy already having spent six months in the can, which is about the same amount of time he'd have spent if he was found guilty of arson, the gov let's him plead out to one count of malicious burning, gets their conviction, puts the guy on five years probation and let's him walk with time served.

It doesn't mean he didn't try to kill his girlfriend by burning down her house while she slept. It just means that the gov has too many cases to try every single one and if they're satisfied with the outcome, they will let people plead out. The gov makes offers every day and most people take them.

The gov made Hide an offer he couldn't refuse. He rotted in jail for two months which is no cakewalk considering guys get popped with drugs at tijuana border everyday and walk free. Hide did his time, the gov got him in the system and now INS decides what to do.


Do you think he will be allowed to compete in US BB contests again?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Luv2Hurt on February 06, 2008, 03:58:54 PM

Do you think he will be allowed to compete in US BB contests again?

Why not, for Viagra without a script?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2008, 04:02:40 PM
So the gov let six felonies drop because they are too busy?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 06, 2008, 04:08:20 PM
So the gov let six felonies drop because they are too busy?


Plus all but one of the misdemenors.  :D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2008, 04:10:18 PM

Plus all but one of the misdemenors.  :D
In case you didn't see my other post...........

nice avatar, big fan of Combat18 are you? :-*
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Special Ed on February 06, 2008, 04:11:56 PM
The gov overcharges. All state and county DA's overcharge people with crimes they know they cannot prove. It's called gaining leverage in subsequent plea negotiations. I'm certain one of our Canadian members can chime in with an example of Gross Overcharging.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: biceps on February 06, 2008, 04:13:37 PM
How much viagra does it take to get 3 inches hard :-\

If his only 3 inches than he should join the Team Nasser.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2008, 04:16:46 PM
I'm certain one of our Canadian members can chime in with an example of Gross Overcharging.
MattC is not logged on right now........
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: James Dalton on February 06, 2008, 05:26:50 PM
Dude this is SKETCHY.  This is his lawyer Shawn Chapman Holley, from the article:

"I met with Mr. Lynch who is the Head Deputy of the District Attorney's office yesterday," Chapman Holley said. "I presented him a packet of materials. Not only declarations from people indicating that there was no way in the world that the amount of steroids that he possessed was for distribution but also...a lot of character letters

With everything that is going on with steriods now, there is NO WAY they dropped all the juice charges just to charge him w/ a bullsh!t viagara charge.  That makes no sense.

think about it...they dropped 6 felony charges, and they obivously busted his ass red-handed at the airport w/ steriods (his lawyer said he had juice), why on earth would they drop those charges??

If he didn't have anything they wouldn't of arrested him in the first place! 

hmmmmm

Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 06, 2008, 05:33:01 PM
In case you didn't see my other post...........

nice avatar, big fan of Combat18 are you? :-*


I'm a big fan of any avatar that causes the politically correct to take offense.  I'm thinking of something from either the KKK or Stormfront for my next one. ;D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: JohnnyVegas on February 06, 2008, 05:54:05 PM
So the gov let six felonies drop because they are too busy?

They had no case-otherwise they would NEVER allow a single misdemeanor in place of several felonies.


The gov overcharges. All state and county DA's overcharge people with crimes they know they cannot prove. It's called gaining leverage in subsequent plea negotiations. I'm certain one of our Canadian members can chime in with an example of Gross Overcharging.

It happens, but not that often.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: WhiteCastle on February 06, 2008, 05:58:52 PM
It's probably reasonable the someone from the Japanese government put some pressure on the feds to let this thing deflate.  They have been relatively supportive of US foreign polocy goals.  If some american fucks up (or already did fuck up) in Japan, it's kind of like a trade.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 06:11:47 PM
Hate to say it but, I told you so. Said a long time go he would just get deportation and no time.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: timfogarty on February 06, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
It's probably reasonable the someone from the Japanese government put some pressure on the feds to let this thing deflate.

I really doubt the Japanese government cares whether a bodybuilder sits in jail.

and even though the charges have been dropped, there is no way a Japanese corporation could ever sponsor him.   no more plausible deniability that he hasn't used steroids and gh.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on February 06, 2008, 06:19:39 PM
He gave a Whale away, and he's gonna voluntarily leave because so many people are going to be after his ass!  Gosh, in a weird way, you have to empathize with the guy.  He's probably a very nice guy that just got toooooo caught up.

Hell, with all that test, who would need viagra?

 vascularity  8)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Smokincrazy on February 06, 2008, 06:21:01 PM
Congrats to Hide. I'm glad everything went well for him
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: WhiteCastle on February 06, 2008, 06:22:04 PM
I really doubt the Japanese government cares whether a bodybuilder sits in jail.

and even though the charges have been dropped, there is no way a Japanese corporation could ever sponsor him.   no more plausible deniability that he hasn't used steroids and gh.

I don't know.  He is basically known as "the japanese bodybuilder" and most people here can't even pronounce his name. There aren't a lot of almond eyes that have made it as far as the Olympia.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: timfogarty on February 06, 2008, 06:29:12 PM
I don't know.  He is basically known as "the japanese bodybuilder" and most people here can't even pronounce his name. There aren't a lot of almond eyes that have made it as far as the Olympia.

he has been dishonored.  I doubt he'll ever appear in a Japanese magazine again.   Maybe if he continued to do well in future Olympia, there might be some redemption.  But as it looks like he'll be deported (and not allowed back in for 5 years) he won't be appearing in any Olympias any time soon.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 06, 2008, 06:35:55 PM
he has been dishonored.  I doubt he'll ever appear in a Japanese magazine again.   Maybe if he continued to do well in future Olympia, there might be some redemption.  But as it looks like he'll be deported (and not allowed back in for 5 years) he won't be appearing in any Olympias any time soon.

If the only thing he's been convicted of is "posession of Viagra w/o a 'script", maybe not.  In most people's minds, that's roughly equal in severity to spitting on the sidewalk or running a red light.  ::)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 06:49:09 PM
Good for Hide. I wouldn't be surprised if his immigrations issues get settled as well.

Loatboy, once you're done with getting emotional support from getbig, looks like you're gonna have to find another cause to stalk all day. What you're gonna do with so much free time bro? 
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: timfogarty on February 06, 2008, 07:03:01 PM
If the only thing he's been convicted of is "posession of Viagra w/o a 'script", maybe not.

there were still steroids and gh in his luggage.   that's what makes him untouchable to Japanese corporations
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 07:34:00 PM
there were still steroids and gh in his luggage.   that's what makes him untouchable to Japanese corporations

So Tim, as much as I'm happy for Hide to "walk away" from these dropped charges,

why were they dropped in the first place????
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: tommywishbone on February 06, 2008, 08:16:22 PM
He won't be deported.

I'd place a small wager, that Hidetatada "offered to cooperate" with the DA. There's no way he had correct Rx for the anabolics, etc. Six-felonies-for-one-misdemeanor ain't the type of plea bargin California or Federal prosecutors make. I speak from experience.

I'm glad he's out.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: timfogarty on February 06, 2008, 08:18:56 PM
Hate to say it but, I told you so. Said a long time go he would just get deportation and no time.

time served is not the same as no time.  60 days already.  how much longer in INS detention?   that's a long time to go without training and be without your NOXplode and other supplements.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 08:23:24 PM
time served is not the same as no time.  60 days already.  how much longer in INS detention?   that's a long time to go without training and be without your NOXplode and other supplements.

So Tim will you answer my question or will I have to go shake tour cage in person at the Arnold?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2008, 08:25:12 PM
So Tim will you answer my question or will I have to go shake tour cage in person at the Arnold?
He's pissed at you  ;D


but you expect me to answer your questions?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 08:29:33 PM
He's pissed at you  ;D

Seems like it chaos. I don't know who that Tim character is. I'm all for Hide and I think he's a good guy. We've broken english talked a couple of times at the K and can sense a good guy.

What's Tim's beef with Hide?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2008, 08:32:56 PM
Seems like it chaos. I don't know who that Tim character is. I'm all for Hide and I think he's a good guy. We've broken english talked a couple of times at the K and can sense a good guy.

What's Tim's beef with Hide?
I don't think it's Hide as much as it is you ;)

Suite at:

The Blackwell
2110 TUTTLE PARK PLACE
COLUMBUS OH, 43210

Thursday 11PM, Friday 10PM extensive 'cocktails' included.. and MORE!!!

BYHOW but American heros get "taken care of" on the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PM me or show up at the lobby, an 'attending' will give you the direction.

No souls will be left undrunken, undrained.

Sorry, No MattC or gay men allowed.  

Honestly, I hope to see Hide back at the Koloseum soon.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 08:35:07 PM
 New update!!!!! Hide is going to be deported under a misdemeanor charge of possesion of Viagra. He has the option to reapply for a visa in 4 years.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: HTexan on February 06, 2008, 08:36:09 PM
How much viagra does it take to get 3 inches hard :-\
Im guessing it for when he does gay4pay ;D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 08:36:42 PM
I don't think it's Hide as much as it is you ;)

Honestly, I hope to see Hide back at the Koloseum soon.

I think that Tim character should focus on compiling bodybuilding stats on his www.musclememory.com shmoe galleria and let the real men debate the bodybuilding subjects. This is getting out of hand.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2008, 08:40:22 PM
New update!!!!! Hide is going to be deported under a misdemeanor charge of possesion of Viagra. He has the option to reapply for a visa in 4 years.
Link?

Or is this one of those "my cousin knows a guy, that knows a gaurd and he said he met someone in an alley that told him........" kind of deals?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 08:41:25 PM
Link?

Or is this one of those "my cousin knows a guy, that knows a gaurd and he said he met someone in an alley that told him........" kind of deals?

Same "Pazuzu" who reported on Good Lee Priest suicide ::) ?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2008, 08:43:18 PM
Same "Pazuzu" who reported on Good Lee Priest suicide ::) ?
That guy has great credibility!! :D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: HTexan on February 06, 2008, 08:43:25 PM
oh boy...

i don't understand american laws at all...
Its simple.
There are little fish, like hide. They rat on big fish. Big fish gets arrested. Little fish is rat for life.  ;D
Its possible to be a fish, a rat and a dawg, and a dawg and a fish but not a rat, or a dawg-fish-rat, or just a rat. See simple. ;D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 08:44:31 PM
Its simple.
There are little fish, like hide. They rat on big fish. Big fish gets arrested. Little fish is rat for life.  ;D
Its possible to be a fish, a rat and a dawg, and a dawg and a fish but not a rat, or a dawg-fish-rat, or just a rat. See simple. ;D


Like Art Atwood who spills the "big cheeze" ?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: HTexan on February 06, 2008, 08:49:02 PM

Like Art Atwood who spills the "big cheeze" ?
lol, what ever happen to him?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 08:50:31 PM
Link?

Or is this one of those "my cousin knows a guy, that knows a gaurd and he said he met someone in an alley that told him........" kind of deals?

I never talk shit bro. Take it to the bank. It's fact. Good for him.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: sgt. d on February 06, 2008, 08:51:36 PM
I never talk shit bro. Take it to the bank. It's fact. Good for him.

Why is it good for hide?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 08:54:34 PM
Why is it good for hide?

Meaning I'm glad he got off with out much time. Not that it is any of your business Sean!  ::)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 06, 2008, 08:56:06 PM
I never talk shit bro. Take it to the bank. It's fact. Good for him.
Too bad he has to wait 4 years......
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: sgt. d on February 06, 2008, 08:57:17 PM
Meaning I'm glad he got off with out much time. Not that it is any of your business Sean!  ::)

You think everybody is Shawn. Hell Ron is Shawn too ::)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 08:57:28 PM
Too bad he has to wait 4 years......

Yeah and it doesn't mean that even then he will be allowed back in.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 08:57:37 PM
Meaning I'm glad he got off with out much time. Not that it is any of your business Sean!  ::)

Jim not bulshitting on your breaking news, just hope it's not the case. Why all the class II charges were dropped but blue pill shit stood? Doesn't make any sense. How many guys travel with 'I don't have my prescription' pills on a daily basis?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 08:58:07 PM
You think everybody is Shawn. Hell Ron is Shawn too ::)

See, even you admit it.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 09:00:46 PM
Jim not bulshitting on your breaking news, just hope it's not the case. Why all the class II charges were dropped but blue pill shit stood? Doesn't make any sense. How many guys travel with 'I don't have my prescription' pills on a daily basis?

Can't say where the news came from, but it is not gossip. I don't know any details yet, just what I wrote. Not sure when I do find out if I will ever be able to say.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Matt C on February 06, 2008, 10:33:35 PM
The gov overcharges. All state and county DA's overcharge people with crimes they know they cannot prove. It's called gaining leverage in subsequent plea negotiations. I'm certain one of our Canadian members can chime in with an example of Gross Overcharging.

Tell me about it.  ;)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 10:34:14 PM
Tell me about it.  ;)

stfu Thunder tool.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Matt C on February 06, 2008, 11:02:09 PM
stfu Thunder tool.

Why are you so mean to me?  :(  I'd give anything for you to stop being mean to me.  :-\  Please stop being mean to me.  :'(

Discuss.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 11:22:25 PM
Why are you so mean to me?  :(  I'd give anything for you to stop being mean to me.  :-\  Please stop being mean to me.  :'(

Discuss.

Give anything? How about giving away your sense of "know it all" .... ?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Matt C on February 06, 2008, 11:37:36 PM
Give anything? How about giving away your sense of "know it all" .... ?

Actually, by and large the majority of my posts are some of the most down to earth types of responses you will ever hear on the subject.  People criticize them because they don't understand them.  If they did, it would be pretty simple to actually give me a logically grounded rebuttal.  But all I ever get on here is the typical ad hominem attacks.

Prove me wrong - actually debate with me on here instead of insulting me all the time.  If my point of view is so easy to dismantle as you claim it is this should be no problem, right?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Alex23 on February 06, 2008, 11:39:44 PM
Actually, by and large the majority of my posts are some of the most down to earth types of responses you will ever hear on the subject.  People criticize them because they don't understand them.  If they did, it would be pretty simple to actually give me a logically grounded rebuttal.  But all I ever get on here is the typical ad hominem attacks.

Prove me wrong - actually debate with me on here instead of insulting me all the time.  If my point of view is so easy to dismantle as you claim it is this should be no problem, right?

I see you really take all this at heart, in the middle of the night.

Lighten up dude, it's a muscle board, not a "debate club" which you should try in real life instead.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 11:48:02 PM
Can't we all just get along.  ;D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Matt C on February 06, 2008, 11:48:50 PM
I see you really take all this at heart, in the middle of the night.

Lighten up dude, it's a muscle board, not a "debate club" which you should try in real life instead.

I do it in real life, as well as other online forums.  The responses I get on www.iidb.org, www.highiqsociety.com, and even facebook are drastically different than the responses I get on here.  There is never any substance on here, just people calling me a sordid little shit and insulting my none to substantial quads.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 06, 2008, 11:50:56 PM
Piece offering.  ;)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Matt C on February 07, 2008, 12:02:36 AM
They had no case-otherwise they would NEVER allow a single misdemeanor in place of several felonies.


[Gross overcharging].  It happens, but not that often.


Bear in mind that Ed is getbig's foremost legal expert.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: The Master on February 07, 2008, 04:41:51 AM
Why are you so mean to me?  :(  I'd give anything for you to stop being mean to me.  :-\  Please stop being mean to me.  :'(

Discuss.



;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Stark on February 07, 2008, 04:46:27 AM
People obviously don't understand what a plea bargain is. I'll summarize. A man is accused of trying to kill his girlfriend by setting her house on fire. He's charged with attempted murder, attempted assault, burglary, trespass, arson, and malicious burning. He's arrested and can't make bail so he sits in jail for six months. The gov knows they won't be able to convict him of attempted murder because it would be nearly impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he knew she was home at the time. They could try him on the other top charges but the gov likes to keep their 97 percent conviction rates intact. With the guy already having spent six months in the can, which is about the same amount of time he'd have spent if he was found guilty of arson, the gov let's him plead out to one count of malicious burning, gets their conviction, puts the guy on five years probation and let's him walk with time served.

It doesn't mean he didn't try to kill his girlfriend by burning down her house while she slept. It just means that the gov has too many cases to try every single one and if they're satisfied with the outcome, they will let people plead out. The gov makes offers every day and most people take them.

The gov made Hide an offer he couldn't refuse. He rotted in jail for two months which is no cakewalk considering guys get popped with drugs at tijuana border everyday and walk free. Hide did his time, the gov got him in the system and now INS decides what to do.

that was very interesting Jason
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Honour on February 07, 2008, 02:25:31 PM
Piece offering.  ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=199354.0;attach=232210)

So was that ;D!!!
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: kyomu on February 07, 2008, 03:21:51 PM
oh boy...

i don't understand american laws at all...
Why? Easy.... Their law is money.
BTW who paid for Hide...........?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: chaos on February 07, 2008, 03:25:13 PM
I do it in real life, as well as other online forums.  The responses I get on www.iidb.org, www.highiqsociety.com, and even facebook are drastically different than the responses I get on here.  There is never any substance on here, just people calling me a sordid little shit and insulting my none to substantial quads.
Ask over at your "high IQ" club if it's "to" or "too"........... ;)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: kyomu on February 07, 2008, 03:29:17 PM
Meaning I'm glad he got off with out much time. Not that it is any of your business Sean!  ::)
Wow is he shawn ray?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Gym dude on February 07, 2008, 04:02:33 PM
Well done to Hide.Good to hear that everthingh went well for Hide.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Spoony Luv on February 07, 2008, 04:55:12 PM
Why are you so mean to me?  :(  I'd give anything for you to stop being mean to me.  :-\  Please stop being mean to me.  :'(

Discuss.


Harden the Fuck UP!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: sgt. d on February 07, 2008, 05:23:23 PM
Wow is he shawn ray?

NO Disrusted is very jealous of Shawn
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Matt C on February 07, 2008, 05:26:30 PM
Ask over at your "high IQ" club if it's "to" or "too"........... ;)

Well done!

I pride myself in not making any spelling mistakes in my posts, and you caught one.  You got me.  ;)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: sgt. d on February 07, 2008, 05:28:06 PM
Why are you so mean to me?  :(  I'd give anything for you to stop being mean to me.  :-\  Please stop being mean to me.  :'(

Discuss.

hahaha
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 07, 2008, 05:42:24 PM
Wow is he shawn ray?

Yes, Sean has multiple accounts on here.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 07, 2008, 05:44:32 PM
Yes, Sean has multiple accounts on here.


Really??    He promised Steve he wouldn't post here!   Shawn would never go back on his word, would he?  :o
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 07, 2008, 05:48:48 PM

Really??    He promised Steve he wouldn't post here!   Shawn would never go back on his word, would he?  :o

Schawn is a very honorable person, so I guess I'm wrong.  :P
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: calmus on February 07, 2008, 05:50:21 PM
Schawn is a very honorable person, so I guess I'm wrong.  :P

I haven't noticed anyone with Shawn's semi-literate-bitch-can't-string-together-more-than-two-sentences style posting. 
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: timfogarty on February 08, 2008, 12:43:30 AM
So what's next for Hide?

http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm says he's been moved to LA Men's Central Jail.  Nothing on when he'll be turned over to INS or how long he'll sit in their jail before being deported.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: sgt. d on February 08, 2008, 06:37:10 AM
Yes, Sean has multiple accounts on here.

How much is King paying you to say this?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: kyomu on February 08, 2008, 06:42:47 AM
Yes, Sean has multiple accounts on here.
Do you know all of them?
If you can,please list up here. :)
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: sgt. d on February 08, 2008, 06:57:42 AM
Do you know all of them?
If you can,please list up here. :)


None on getbig
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: DK II on February 08, 2008, 07:01:13 AM
None on getbig

hi sean!
Title: Hey Benz, looks like I won your HIDE POLL!!!!
Post by: technokc on February 08, 2008, 05:00:10 PM
Been out all week sick, just got on the computer and saw the news on HIde. . . looks like I won your poll, where's my prize?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: PRAXIS on February 08, 2008, 09:49:47 PM
He won't be deported.

I'd place a small wager, that Hidetatada "offered to cooperate" with the DA. There's no way he had correct Rx for the anabolics, etc. Six-felonies-for-one-misdemeanor ain't the type of plea bargin California or Federal prosecutors make. I speak from experience.

I'm glad he's out.

I think co-operating with any sort of law enforcement official once being caught with juice is mandatory for any bodybuilder!!!!
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: dzulboy on February 08, 2008, 09:53:45 PM
So the gov let six felonies drop because they are too busy?

no its trumpe dup charges  they thorw a bunch at you maybe half will stick  maybe they won;t   but the idea is to scar eyou into a plea deal....since hide already served his time why not take the plea   fuck it
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: PRAXIS on February 08, 2008, 09:55:54 PM
no its trumpe dup charges  they thorw a bunch at you maybe half will stick  maybe they won;t   but the idea is to scar eyou into a plea deal....since hide already served his time why not take the plea   fuck it

60 days for attempting to import a illegal substance into the country??? LA may be liberal but this smells like a rat move!!!!
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: G o a t b o y on February 08, 2008, 11:13:25 PM
60 days for attempting to import a illegal substance into the country??? LA may be liberal but this smells like a rat move!!!!


Team "Rattin' Jap"!  :D
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: DK II on February 08, 2008, 11:15:07 PM
60 days for attempting to import a illegal substance into the country??? LA may be liberal but this smells like a rat move!!!!

i can't believe it either.

Also, the "letters of character" are BS. Everyone can produce those. He was caught redhanded.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: timfogarty on February 14, 2008, 07:12:05 PM
Hide is no longer in the LASD Inmate Info database (http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm), which suggests he's been transferred to the INS.   Anyone have any info?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 14, 2008, 07:13:20 PM
Hide is no longer in the LASD Inmate Info database (http://app4.lasd.org/iic/ajis_search.cfm), which suggests he's been transferred to the INS.   Anyone have any info?

I do but not sure what I can say yet. Give me a few.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Disgusted on February 14, 2008, 07:16:51 PM
OK Hide went back to Japan today, He can reapply for a visa in 2 MONTHS, not a misprint.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: technokc on February 14, 2008, 07:22:06 PM
OK Hide went back to Japan today, He can reapply for a visa in 2 MONTHS, not a misprint.

looks like he wont miss a beat
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: KeepItReal on February 14, 2008, 09:41:44 PM
http://www.flexonline.com/news/328

YAMAGISHI RELEASED FROM PRISON
Hidetada Yamagishi is on his way back to Japan

by Allan Donnelly

February 14, 2008

FLEXONLINE.COM

Flexonline has learned that, as of this morning, February 14, Hidetada Yamagishi was released from the Metropolitan Detention Center in Los Angeles California and is on his way back to Japan.

On December 8, 2007, Yamagishi was arrested upon arriving at Los Angeles International airport and charged with nine counts of possession of controlled substances, including six felonies and three misdemeanors. On February 6, Yamagishi appeared in court for a preliminary hearing. At that hearing, all but one of the counts were dismissed, and Yamagishi was charged with a misdemeanor count of possession of Viagra without a prescription.

Yamagishi was then transported to the Federal Correctional Institute in San Pedro, California. Shortly thereafter, he was transported to the Metropolitan Detention Center in Los Angeles. As a result of the misdemeanor conviction, Yamagishi?s 01 visa ? given to people with extraordinary talents and abilities ? was revoked.

At the Metropolitan Detention Center, Yamagishi was faced with two options: fight the revocation of his 01 visa or return to Japan on his own free will. Yamagishi chose the latter. Now, Yamagishi must choose whether he wants to fight the revocation of his visa from Japan or apply for re-entry to the United States. IF he chooses to contest the revocation and loses, Yamagishi faces a five-year ban where he will not, under any circumstances, be allowed to enter the United States. However, if Yamagishi elects to apply for a re-entry visa and is approved, it is likely that he would be allowed back in the country within the next few months.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Matt C on February 14, 2008, 09:56:47 PM
The gov made Hide an offer he couldn't refuse. He rotted in jail for two months which is no cakewalk considering guys get popped with drugs at tijuana border everyday and walk free. Hide did his time, the gov got him in the system and now INS decides what to do.

Canadian jails are a cakewalk.  Full medical, full dental, and very good cooked meals three times a day.

I don't know of anyone who spent time in Canadian prisons who thought it was that bad.  Just losing their freedom was the problem.  If I had to spend time in jail for any reason, I would simply read as much as possible for that time and continue to educate myself, by reading book after book after book.  Keep in mind that being in a Canadian prison is a better quality of life afforded to "free" people in other countries.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: timfogarty on February 14, 2008, 10:01:16 PM
looks like he wont miss a beat

except for going cold-turkey for two months without testosterone, et al.   Oh, and eating only 90 grams of protein a day.  how much weight do you think he lost?
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: Matt C on February 14, 2008, 10:31:13 PM
People obviously don't understand what a plea bargain is. I'll summarize. A man is accused of trying to kill his girlfriend by setting her house on fire. He's charged with attempted murder, attempted assault, burglary, trespass, arson, and malicious burning. He's arrested and can't make bail so he sits in jail for six months. The gov knows they won't be able to convict him of attempted murder because it would be nearly impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he knew she was home at the time. They could try him on the other top charges but the gov likes to keep their 97 percent conviction rates intact. With the guy already having spent six months in the can, which is about the same amount of time he'd have spent if he was found guilty of arson, the gov let's him plead out to one count of malicious burning, gets their conviction, puts the guy on five years probation and let's him walk with time served.

The system is just a joke anyway.  A friend of mine said it took him $10,000 to defend himself on a bullshit charge which he beat, and it cost the crown $17,000 to try to prosecute him and he didn't understand the point of it since the crown needed $17,000 in tax dollars to attempt to prosecute him.

That's the gag.

The legal system is in a battle for financial resources with other government services and will do whatever it takes to acquire them, including ruining or attempting to ruin the lives of innocent people.  The bottom line is not justice as some people naively think - but money.  In the scenario I described above, $27,000 went to the legal system, so rather than looking at it as a net loss of $7,000, you have to look at it as a net gain to the system as a whole.

In Canada, you can pay to get a pardon after 3-5 years which will eliminate your criminal record, and you can pay additional money to get pardoned through the US system.  What happens to a poor person who cannot afford this?  Why, he keeps his record of course.  But wait - money will make an equal criminal turn back into an ordinary citizen?  But isn't the point of the justice system to protect citizens?

Nope - it's all smoke and mirrors and that's the gag.

except for going cold-turkey for two months without testosterone, et al.   Oh, and eating only 90 grams of protein a day.  how much weight do you think he lost?

I would assume about 10 pounds within the first four days and a slower and more stable decline from there.
Title: Re: Hidetada Yamgishi to be deported now that case is settled???
Post by: kyomu on February 15, 2008, 02:47:20 AM
Mmm Looks like he can continue competing in US... Not bad...