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Title: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 05:30:29 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/sen-ted-cruz-2016-presidential-bid-116285.html?hp=t1_r

The 2016 election officially began with a tweet.

Shortly after midnight on Monday morning, Ted Cruz confirmed on Twitter that he will run for president, making him the first official candidate of the 2016 race and kicking off a season of campaign launches, with several other candidates expected to jump in in coming weeks.
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“I’m running for President and I hope to earn your support!” the tweet read, with a link to a slickly-produced 30-second campaign video.
“It’s a time for truth,” Cruz says in the clip, which is paid for by “Cruz for President.” “A time to rise to the challenge, just as Americans have always done. I believe in America and her people, and I believe we can stand up and restore our promise. It’s going to take a new generation of courageous conservatives to help make America great again. And I’m ready to stand with you to lead the fight.”

A full announcement is scheduled for Monday morning around 10 A.M., two advisers confirmed, when the Texas Republican and his family are expected to unveil the campaign at Liberty University, a conservative Christian college in Lynchburg, Va. The Associated Press photographed the Cruz family’s walk-through on Sunday, complete with a spousal kiss on stage.

Cruz, a tea party-aligned Republican who was elected to the Senate in 2012, will become the first formally announced candidate of the presidential campaign. Over the next few weeks, nearly 10 months before the first-in-the-nation Iowa caucuses, he will be joined by several other candidates — including Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida and Rand Paul of Kentucky on the GOP side, and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on the Democratic side — who are also expected to kick off their campaigns.

An early April launch allows them to take advantage of the full second fundraising quarter to rack up their cash figures as part of an attempt to project campaign strength after the June 30 filing deadline.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/sen-ted-cruz-2016-presidential-bid-116285.html#ixzz3VDAS9JcF
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: headhuntersix on March 23, 2015, 06:48:36 AM
If we can get some unvarnished truth and facts from him out amongst the MSM he'll have done his job
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 08:00:22 AM
Gov. Brown’s "face palm moment" about Ted Cruz —Timely Today
 
 
 

   
California Governor Jerry Brown did not mince words. Discussing climate change he summarily dismissed the ignorance of Ted Cruz as seen in the above snippet. (video in the link)
Chuck Todd and Governor Jerry Brown were discussing the dire straits that California has found itself in with its record drought. In the discussion Todd asked Jerry Brown if his state's condition could be attributed to climate change. Brown's answer was deliberately measured. He acknowledged that in fact climate change is real. However he noted that one event is not enough to blame on climate change. His answer had the necessary caution to ensure it could not be used as a political gotcha.

While the governor did not want to single out California in the aggregate of climactic events, one has to draw that conclusion given the peer reviewed studies supported by over 90% of scientists. Chuck Todd then played a clip of Ted Cruz's willful ignorance displayed on Seth Myers show where he lied about the scientific data on climate change. Governor Jerry Brown's response was epic.

"What he said is absolutely false," Brown said. "Over 90% of the scientists who deal with climate are absolutely convinced that the human activity, industrial activity, generation of CO2, methane, oxides, nitrogen, and all the rest of those greenhouse gases are building up in the atmosphere. They are heat trapping. And they are causing not just warm, drought in California, but severe storms and cold in the East Coast. So it's climate disruption of many different kinds. And that man betokens such a level of ignorance and a direct falsification of existing scientific data. It's shocking and I think that man has rendered himself absolutely unfit to be running for office."

That could not be said any better. Ted Cruz is a clear and present danger not only to thinking Americans but to the entire well being of the country. His effect on policy would be fatal.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/22/1372530/-Governor-Jerry-Brown-on-Ted-Cruz-that-man-betokens-such-a-level-of-ignorance?detail=facebook_sf[/}
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: OzmO on March 23, 2015, 08:34:11 AM
The New Messiah?  The great conservative savior?

All they need now is a sexy VP to make their loins tingle, a steady stream of 60% untruths from Fox, and Getbigs finest parrots to mouth piece him!

From whiny crybaby bitches to the defenders of truth and conservatism.....  33333 and Coach shall unite in thanks for a truly American born President...........um wait.... 
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Victor VonDoom on March 23, 2015, 09:53:27 AM
Bah ha ha ha ha
Doom is amused.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: ritch on March 23, 2015, 09:58:02 AM
Never even heard of him, lol...
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 10:17:04 AM
 ;D

The Ted Cruz website is up and ready for 2016.
 
 
 

   
He sure seems ready to run: http://www.tedcruz.com/
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 11:14:56 AM
Look, Cruz plays dumb no global warming because that s what it takes to rile up the repub tea party voting base.

And THAT is how the repubs can win the national election in 2016. 

NOT by running a RINO who tries to please everyone by being a Hilary Lite while hatin' on the base ideals of the party.  We saw in 2008 and 2012 that the repub base will NOT come out and vote.

So while YES, while it's a little funny how little credibility Cruz will give to science, it's how he can win the election.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 11:18:33 AM
Look, Cruz plays dumb no global warming because that s what it takes to rile up the repub tea party voting base.

And THAT is how the repubs can win the national election in 2016. 

NOT by running a RINO who tries to please everyone by being a Hilary Lite while hatin' on the base ideals of the party.  We saw in 2008 and 2012 that the repub base will NOT come out and vote.

So while YES, while it's a little funny how little credibility Cruz will give to science, it's how he can win the election.

I think he has to get the independent voters to fall in and their not interested in hanging with the tea party,i don't think anyone is ;D
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 23, 2015, 11:44:46 AM
Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz On His Former Student Ted Cruz : “Off The Charts Brilliant”
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 11:55:38 AM
Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz On His Former Student Ted Cruz : “Off The Charts Brilliant”

Dershowitz also described Cruz's actions regarding shutting down the government as "deeply unconstitutional"

Quote
PIERS MORGAN: You're a top lawyer. When he is basically taking an established law like ObamaCare -- whether you like parts of it or not, or even the whole thing --and you're using that as a stick to shut down the American government, that is taking it a bit far, isn't it?

ALAN DERSHOWITZ: Not only that, but I think it raises very serious constitutional questions of the kind that Ted Cruz should be interested in. Could you imagine Hamilton and Madison sitting around and drafting the Constitution and the Federalist Papers. They’re talking about how the government has to pay its debts, how it has to secure the credit of the United States, how the House of Representatives is to originate bills on revenue.

Nobody in a million years would have contemplated the power of Congress to shut down the government, to create doubts about our creditworthiness. I think you can make a very strong argument that what Ted Cruz is doing is deeply unconstitutional. Whether a court would accept that or say it's a political question is another issue, but Cruz is a principled man. He ought to look at the Constitution and look into his heart and ask himself 'what would Alexander Hamilton have done?'

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/10/16/dershowitz_what_ted_cruz_is_doing_is_deeply_unconstitutional.html
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 12:06:56 PM
Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz On His Former Student Ted Cruz : “Off The Charts Brilliant”

Not a personal attack on Cruz, but I have a brother in law who is a multi millionaire Mensa member and would be considered "brilliant" by acadamia standards, who doesn't have the common sense god gave a turnip in many aspects of life and I wouldn't trust him to make rules and regulations for me, much less run the country  
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 12:26:08 PM
Cruz KNOWS that the people in the tea party hated romney and hated mccain.

Cruz KNOWS that the people in the tea party are passionate and more motivated than any other voting group, including libs and RINOs.

Cruz KNOWS that by mocking science, laughing at higher education, ridiculing all those "elite" things, he can win the nomination and probably the general election too.  Do I believe that Cruz is that clueless on science?  of course not.  Do I believe the highly educated cruz is really that flippant on such trivial manners?  Nope.  But I do believe he's going to dumb it down for the primary season, then become a sharp, focused canddiate for the general election.   

Cruz is very smart, and staying consistent while Rand and Rubio have flirted centrist over and over.  Cruz' position on amnesty is his best asset, he's stayed steady while Rubio, Rand, Jeb and Christie all turned liberal.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: headhuntersix on March 23, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
I think he could sell himself to the masses but it will take work. I think its going to be Walker but its early. Cruz needs to push the pile...we can't nominate a Rino regardless.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 12:40:54 PM
I think he could sell himself to the masses but it will take work. I think its going to be Walker but its early. Cruz needs to push the pile...we can't nominate a Rino regardless.

Have you seen the stories over the past few days?
Rush, Levin and laura ingraham all destroying Bush, calling him a RINO, saying that repubs cannot make that same mistake again.

I heard a great item... repubs have won big FIVE times since 1980.  EVERY TIME they won women.  1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, and 2010 - EVERY TIME they had a very conservative ticket, with 2010 being that mid-term tea party big year.   And think of the years where repubs went RINO... 2008, 2012, both bad defeats, both with a RINO.

Cruz or Lose.   Walker, maybe, but IMO he hasn't been vetted nationally yet... I don't fear Cruz skeletons in closet.  With walker, I do.  He admitted he thought about using violence to get a peaceful protest to riot level... anyone that careless surely has ten years of mistakes following him.   Cruz, he's just too "goober" to have that kind of reckless past.   
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 12:41:48 PM
Cruz KNOWS that the people in the tea party hated romney and hated mccain.

Cruz KNOWS that the people in the tea party are passionate and more motivated than any other voting group, including libs and RINOs.

Cruz KNOWS that by mocking science, laughing at higher education, ridiculing all those "elite" things, he can win the nomination and probably the general election too.  Do I believe that Cruz is that clueless on science?  of course not.  Do I believe the highly educated cruz is really that flippant on such trivial manners?  Nope.  But I do believe he's going to dumb it down for the primary season, then become a sharp, focused canddiate for the general election.   

Cruz is very smart, and staying consistent while Rand and Rubio have flirted centrist over and over.  Cruz' position on amnesty is his best asset, he's stayed steady while Rubio, Rand, Jeb and Christie all turned liberal.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/168917/four-years-gop-support-tea-party-down.aspx

Support for Tea Party among GOP is falling.... hanging your hat on the Tea Party to get elected would be a mistake in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 12:46:40 PM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/168917/four-years-gop-support-tea-party-down.aspx

Support for Tea Party among GOP is falling.... hanging your hat on the Tea Party to get elected would be a mistake in my opinion.

40% of repubs support tea party.
11% of repubs are against it.

That means you'll get 89% of repubs showing up in Nov 2016 to vote for a tea party member.  And maybe some of the other 11% bother.

Would LOVE to see that poll with another question... What % of republicans are for/against the RINO movement?  LOL!
I'd bet WAY more than 11% of republicans are against the moderate RINO bullshit.

I think your poll shows EXACTLY why repubs need to run a far-right candidate.  89% of repubs aren't against it.  Huge.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 23, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
phase 1 – beat the rinos

phase 2 – beat the commies
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
phase 1 – beat the rinos

phase 2 – beat the commies

phase 1 - appeal to insane people

phase 2 - try to convince the majority of the country you're not also insane and hope they forget all the insane shit you've said

phase 3 - blame the public for failure to "understand" after getting his ass handed to him
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 23, 2015, 12:55:20 PM
Cruz believes in America. Obama believes in islam.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 12:58:32 PM
cruz  :D :D :D :D :D not a chance in hell
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 12:59:01 PM
Cruz believes in America. Obama believes in islam.

refer to phase 1 on my list
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 23, 2015, 01:02:23 PM
No teleprompter.
The idiot we have in office couldn’t do that.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 01:02:42 PM
Source: TPM

Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), the No. 2 Republican in the Senate, said on Monday that he won't back his fellow Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R) during the 2016 Republican presidential primary.

In an interview with Politico, Cornyn said that he would not endorse any candidate in the primary.

"You know, we’ve got a lot of Texans who are running for president, so I’m going to watch from the sidelines," he said. When asked if he would support Cruz's run financially, Cornyn responded, "Nope. You got a lot of people involved, and I don’t see any benefit to them or to me."

Cornyn's lack of support does not come as a huge surprise, as Cruz would not endorse Cornyn in his 2014 Senate re-election primary against Rep. Steve Stockman (R-TX). Cruz later endorsed Cornyn after he defeated Stockman.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 23, 2015, 01:03:49 PM
Anyone so feared by the Left, the MSM, the RINOs/Rockefeller Republicans and the trolls on this board must be worth supporting.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 01:05:10 PM
cruz  :D :D :D :D :D not a chance in hell

dude, we know a RINO cannot win.  Mccain and Romeny both lost, and things have only gone MORE dem since amnesty delivered 4 million more dem voters.

Dems should be SCARED of Cruz.   Very scared.  He will mobilize the base - they'll donate, they'll knock on doors, they'll rally.  Remember how many repubs were ashamed of romney?  Won't be the case here.  Only 11% of repubs are against the tea party, that number is great news for a Cruz.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 01:08:06 PM
dude, we know a RINO cannot win.  Mccain and Romeny both lost, and things have only gone MORE dem since amnesty delivered 4 million more dem voters.

Dems should be SCARED of Cruz.   Very scared.  He will mobilize the base - they'll donate, they'll knock on doors, they'll rally.  Remember how many repubs were ashamed of romney?  Won't be the case here.  Only 11% of repubs are against the tea party, that number is great news for a Cruz.

bush won twice and he wasn't much of a conservative
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 01:09:29 PM
Anyone so feared by the Left, the MSM, the RINOs/Rockefeller Republicans and the trolls on this board must be worth supporting.

the dems would love to run against him
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
bush won twice and he wasn't much of a conservative

oh but he was far more conservative than mccain or romney.   "compassionate conservative" who sent people to the chair, from TX and had a conservative daddy.

Bush was WAY more conservative than romney or mccain when he ran.  In 2000, bush was the "i'm not the wet spot that clinton was" and in 2004, it was "i'm al-qudas wrst nightmare!"   Both strongly conservative, both got the base to rally.


We know a RINO cannot win, only a fcking fool would smile and gloat that Jeb or Christie can get the base to bother.
We know a RINO cannot swing liberal/dem voters... a war hero and a business genius couldn't do it, a bush sure can't Lol.

We know the base is THIRSTY for a win, and libs are lackluster.  Hard to get them excited for hilary.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 01:24:38 PM
Only 21 percent of Americans now say they support the Tea Party movement. Support for the Tea Party has risen as high as 31 percent since The Times and CBS News first began asking about it four years ago. Support has hovered between 20 and 25 percent over the last year and a half.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 01:28:11 PM
oh but he was far more conservative than mccain or romney.   "compassionate conservative" who sent people to the chair, from TX and had a conservative daddy.

Bush was WAY more conservative than romney or mccain when he ran.  In 2000, bush was the "i'm not the wet spot that clinton was" and in 2004, it was "i'm al-qudas wrst nightmare!"   Both strongly conservative, both got the base to rally.


We know a RINO cannot win, only a fcking fool would smile and gloat that Jeb or Christie can get the base to bother.
We know a RINO cannot swing liberal/dem voters... a war hero and a business genius couldn't do it, a bush sure can't Lol.

We know the base is THIRSTY for a win, and libs are lackluster.  Hard to get them excited for hilary.

most repubs didn't see bush as a conservative,he spent money like a drunken sailor
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 01:29:31 PM
oh but he was far more conservative than mccain or romney.   "compassionate conservative" who sent people to the chair, from TX and had a conservative daddy.

Bush was WAY more conservative than romney or mccain when he ran.  In 2000, bush was the "i'm not the wet spot that clinton was" and in 2004, it was "i'm al-qudas wrst nightmare!"   Both strongly conservative, both got the base to rally.


We know a RINO cannot win, only a fcking fool would smile and gloat that Jeb or Christie can get the base to bother.
We know a RINO cannot swing liberal/dem voters... a war hero and a business genius couldn't do it, a bush sure can't Lol.

We know the base is THIRSTY for a win, and libs are lackluster.  Hard to get them excited for hilary.

most repubs didn't see bush as a conservative,he spent money like a drunken sailor
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 01:31:48 PM
most repubs didn't see bush as a conservative,he spent money like a drunken sailor

Yes, in 2006 and 2008 they saw that.

But in 2000, he was the fiscally responsible repub.
In 2004, he was the responsible hero spending a bit, but only to keep us safe. 

By 2005, 2006, everything started unraveling, and repubs saw him as an idiot spender - but he had the job already.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 01:31:48 PM
My opinion.. I have little respect for Americans when it comes to their voting and our government. We re-elected criminals, we re-elect unethical politicians, we accidently vote people in because we recognize the name and it's actually a totally different person, we vote party lines because our fathers did, we don't bother to vote in many cases.. "We" have created a system where Cruz is unelectable. ANY politician who is extreme on either end, liberal or conservative is unelectable. We are so divided as a nation due to many factors, media opinion makers and spinners chief among them. A candidate who alienates too many people with their stance will not get elected. This is exactly why you can hear the same politician give a speech for Iron Workers in Detroit, and he contradicts what he just said yesterday to buisness owners in New York. They tell us what we want to hear in order to have the best chance of getting elected. So will Cruz get elected? Nope. But for a short while, the Tea Party will feel really good until they lose. 
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 01:33:56 PM
Not a personal attack on Cruz, but I have a brother in law who is a multi millionaire Mensa member and would be considered "brilliant" by acadamia standards, who doesn't have the common sense god gave a turnip in many aspects of life and I wouldn't trust him to make rules and regulations for me, much less run the country  

I agree common sense is very important, but let's not pretend that being intellectually "brilliant" isn't an important factor when it comes to being a leader. 

I'm not all that impressed with "academic brilliance," particularly for someone who is years removed from school. 
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 01:37:56 PM
Anyone so feared by the Left, the MSM, the RINOs/Rockefeller Republicans and the trolls on this board must be worth supporting.

well that rules out Cruz then because the left doesn't fear him

I know guys like you keep saying that and I guess maybe you think if you say it enough that everyone will start believing

Cruz will never get the nomination and if he did the majority of conservatives would stay home or vote for the Dem

btw - I'm praying to satan every day that Republicans are dumb enough to nominate Cruz
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 01:39:57 PM
And I kind of respect Cruz and people like Cruz in some regard. If you think homosexuals are 2nd class citizens underserving of equal rights, and will burn in hell, fine. We can agree to disagree. I have more (not a whole lot but more) respect for that person than the one who says they are for equal rights in public but behind the scenes work to limit equality and tell gay jokes with their buddies. Someone who is honest about what they think regardless of how stupid it is in politics isn't all that common.      If Rev Phelps had run for office, at least you would know where he stood....
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: headhuntersix on March 23, 2015, 01:43:11 PM
My opinion.. I have little respect for Americans when it comes to their voting and our government. We re-elected criminals, we re-elect unethical politicians, we accidently vote people in because we recognize the name and it's actually a totally different person, we vote party lines because our fathers did, we don't bother to vote in many cases.. "We" have created a system where Cruz is unelectable. ANY politician who is extreme on either end, liberal or conservative is unelectable. We are so divided as a nation due to many factors, media opinion makers and spinners chief among them. A candidate who alienates too many people with their stance will not get elected. This is exactly why you can hear the same politician give a speech for Iron Workers in Detroit, and he contradicts what he just said yesterday to buisness owners in New York. They tell us what we want to hear in order to have the best chance of getting elected. So will Cruz get elected? Nope. But for a short while, the Tea Party will feel really good until they lose. 


Good post....
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 23, 2015, 02:53:57 PM
My opinion.. I have little respect for Americans when it comes to their voting and our government. We re-elected criminals, we re-elect unethical politicians, we accidently vote people in because we recognize the name and it's actually a totally different person, we vote party lines because our fathers did, we don't bother to vote in many cases.. "We" have created a system where Cruz is unelectable. ANY politician who is extreme on either end, liberal or conservative is unelectable. We are so divided as a nation due to many factors, media opinion makers and spinners chief among them. A candidate who alienates too many people with their stance will not get elected. This is exactly why you can hear the same politician give a speech for Iron Workers in Detroit, and he contradicts what he just said yesterday to buisness owners in New York. They tell us what we want to hear in order to have the best chance of getting elected. So will Cruz get elected? Nope. But for a short while, the Tea Party will feel really good until they lose.  

Terrible post as Obama is about as extreme liberal as one can get, and he got elected, so your theory is worthless, plus:





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Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 03:01:19 PM
Terrible post, as Obama is about as extreme liberal as one can get, and he got elected, so your theory is worthless.





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time have changed reagan couldn't get elected in this repub party
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 03:05:21 PM
Terrible post as Obama is about as extreme liberal as one can get, and he got elected, so your theory is worthless, plus:


True.  Twice.   
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 23, 2015, 03:07:13 PM
rump brings birther charge against Cruz

Source: The Hill

Real estate tycoon Donald Trump cast doubt Monday on whether Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) can run for president because he was born in Canada.

"It’s a hurdle, somebody could certainly look at it very seriously," Trump said during a phone interview Monday on My Fox New York.

"He was born in Canada, if you know and when we all studied our history lessons, you are supposed to be born in this country, so I just don't know how the courts will rule on this."

Trump, who says he is exploring a bid for president in 2016, helped lead the "birther" movement that questioned President Obama's birth place, as well as the veracity of his birth certificate. He recently took credit for getting Obama to release his birth certificate while speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/236651-trump-cruz-faces-hurdle-for-canadian-birthplace


And the birthers are off and running....
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 03:11:02 PM
Terrible post as Obama is about as extreme liberal as one can get, and he got elected, so your theory is worthless, plus:





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I disagree with your post and here is why... Obama could be the biggest liberal to ever walk the face of the planet.... Cruz could be the biggest conservative. The difference in the 2.. Obama didn't run as an extreme Liberal, he sold himself to the middle of the road, regardless of what he was thinking. Of course in the 1st election, it helped tremendously that he was following Bush. We would have voted Bugs Bunny in to get away from that mess.    

Who was president before Reagan? Oh yeah.. Carter... same thing
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 03:14:00 PM
Terrible post as Obama is about as extreme liberal as one can get, and he got elected, so your theory is worthless, plus:





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True.  Twice.   

false

Obama is a moderate and that's best case

calling him "as extreme a liberal as one can get" just shows how delusional some people on the far right really are
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 23, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
I disagree with your post and here is why... Obama could be the biggest liberal to ever walk the face of the planet.... Cruz could be the biggest conservative. The difference in the 2.. Obama didn't run as an extreme Liberal, he sold himself to the middle of the road, regardless of what he was thinking. Of course in the 1st election, it helped tremendously that he was following Bush. We would have voted Bugs Bunny in to get away from that mess.    

Obama had a record as being one of the most liberal Senators, and he still got elected, he even said he was going to "fundamentally transform this Country". Anyone with a brain knew what that meant.





Study: Obama most liberal senator last year
A new study suggests Obama had the most liberal voting record in 2007.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/31/study-obama-most-liberal-senator-last-year/
But that didn't keep him from getting elected
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Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 03:20:12 PM
Obama had a record as being one of the most liberal Senators, and he still got elected, he even said he was going to "fundamentally transform this Country". Anyone with a brain knew what that meant.





Study: Obama most liberal senator last year
A new study suggests Obama had the most liberal voting record in 2007.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/31/study-obama-most-liberal-senator-last-year/

There's the problem
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Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 03:21:45 PM
Obama had a record as being one of the most liberal Senators, and he still got elected, he even said he was going to "fundamentally transform this Country". Anyone with a brain knew what that meant.





Study: Obama most liberal senator last year
A new study suggests Obama had the most liberal voting record in 2007.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/31/study-obama-most-liberal-senator-last-year/

Exactly.  If you really paid attention to what he was advocating, he was a big government liberal.  He was an extreme social liberal.  No big secrets.  He didn't run a campaign (or govern) like Clinton, who moved away from the fringe.  
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Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 03:23:59 PM
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/29/how-liberal-is-president-obama/?_r=0

Good article on Obama and his liberalism
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 23, 2015, 03:24:25 PM
Exactly.  If you really paid attention to what he was advocating, he was a big government liberal.  He was an extreme social liberal.  No big secrets.  He didn't run a campaign (or govern) like Clinton, who moved away from the fringe.  

Yep, and as Senator Obama not only had a liberal voting record, he had "the most liberal voting record in 2007" and he got elected.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/31/study-obama-most-liberal-senator-last-year/
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 03:35:47 PM
Nothing posted here supports the claim that Obama The POTUS is "about as extreme liberal as one can get"

Drone Strikes,
Crack down on Whistleblowers/Journalist
Double down in Afghanistan
Had to "evolve" to support gay marriage

just a few off the top of my head

none of which sound like "about as extreme liberal as one can get"

Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 03:44:26 PM
Nothing posted here supports the claim that Obama The POTUS is "about as extreme liberal as one can get"

Drone Strikes,
Crack down on Whistleblowers/Journalist
Double down in Afghanistan
Had to "evolve" to support gay marriage

just a few off the top of my head

none of which sound like "about as extreme liberal as one can get"



the political page is chock full of hyperbole and exaggerations. It's not enough to just say "I don't like his policy on ______"
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Dos Equis on March 23, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
Yep, and as Senator Obama not only had a liberal voting record, he had "the most liberal voting record in 2007" and he got elected.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/31/study-obama-most-liberal-senator-last-year/

Yep.  He ran on a platform of socialized medicine.  He did lie about not raising taxes, but he didn't hide the fact he would be playing class warfare.  He also said as candidate that his first act as president would be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act (another false statement), which puts him on the fringe, far left of most Americans. 
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 04:26:39 PM
Yep.  He ran on a platform of socialized medicine.  He did lie about not raising taxes, but he didn't hide the fact he would be playing class warfare.  He also said as candidate that his first act as president would be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act (another false statement), which puts him on the fringe, far left of most Americans.  

what is the false statement?

Quote
The Freedom of Choice Act (H.R. 1964/S. 1173) was a bill in the 110th United States Congress which "declares that it is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child; terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability; or terminate a pregnancy after viability when necessary to protect her life or her health."

It prohibits a federal, state, or local governmental entity from denying or interfering with a woman's right to exercise such choices; or discriminating against the exercise of those rights in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information. Provides that such prohibition shall apply retroactively.
It also authorizes an individual aggrieved by a violation of this Act to obtain appropriate relief, including relief against a governmental entity, in a civil action."[1]
Earlier versions of the bill were introduced in 1989 and 1993.[2]
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 05:55:18 PM
Trump brings birther charge against Cruz

Real estate tycoon Donald Trump cast doubt Monday on whether Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) can run for president because he was born in Canada.

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, can everyone finally AGREE with me that trump is nothing more than a fuckin liberal PLANT by NBC to undermine the GOP?

The first day of the top tea party voice announcing he wants to dethrone the obama/hilary legacy, and what gets the headline?  A fcuknig pretend Republican - a lifetime anti-gun liberal that turned repub recently, paid tens of millions annually by NBC - shitting all over him with already disproven birth certificate allegations?


This is SO OBVIOUS.   I would personally like to facefck any of you repubs that support trump.  You deserve it.  He's trashing the top chance to beat the dems in 2016, after being a lifetime climate change supporter, after being a big shill and making GOP look bad over and over...

Shit, am I the ONLY one that sees this?   LOL
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2015, 06:04:25 PM
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, can everyone finally AGREE with me that trump is nothing more than a fuckin liberal PLANT by NBC to undermine the GOP?

The first day of the top tea party voice announcing he wants to dethrone the obama/hilary legacy, and what gets the headline?  A fcuknig pretend Republican - a lifetime anti-gun liberal that turned repub recently, paid tens of millions annually by NBC - shitting all over him with already disproven birth certificate allegations?


This is SO OBVIOUS.   I would personally like to facefck any of you repubs that support trump.  You deserve it.  He's trashing the top chance to beat the dems in 2016, after being a lifetime climate change supporter, after being a big shill and making GOP look bad over and over...

Shit, am I the ONLY one that sees this?   LOL

yes, you are the only one

Trump is crazier than a shit house rat

He's not a liberal plant

He's just your standard issue right wing moron
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 23, 2015, 06:09:52 PM
yes, you are the only one
Trump is crazier than a shit house rat
He's not a liberal plant
He's just your standard issue right wing moron

Trump was a lifetime liberal, until a few years ago.  He cried about gun control and global warming and even sent congrats note to Pelosi... IN 2006!!!

NBC pays him tens of millions of bucks.  He does nothing but make the GOP look foolish, and take away airtime from legit GOp contenders.  He's a clown that is sent in to keep the good candidates from getting airtime, and makes important issues - like the legal paperwork of the POTUS - look like tomfoolery.

Liberals should THANK trump for obfuscating the birth certificate issues.  Liberals should THANK trump for taking actual repubs' airtime away in 2012 while never actually running.  Liberals THANK trump by payinig him hansomly for his show on their liberal network. 

Trump being the 2016 GOP nominee means we have 2 democrats in the race.

IMAGINE if roles were reversed... some FOX news idiot like Juan WIlliams runs for POTUS, and acts lke a buffon all the time.  Total plant lol.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 24, 2015, 07:00:12 AM
William Cruz (No matter who you back, read this)
PJ Media's Belmont Club ^ | March 24, 2015 | Richard Fernandez

Michael Van Der Galien has tried to understand why the Ted Cruz presidential candidacy announcement has set social media on its ear and advances a tentative theory. “But why are leftists’ heads exploding as well? I’ve got no doubt I know the answer: they fear him. Tremendously even. He is everything they oppose: a true, small-government conservative.”

If that were all Cruz were guilty of it wouldn’t be half bad. It’s far worse. His “Imagine” speech seemed calculated to ridicule every Leftist shibboleth with predictable effect. The Left lost no time characterizing him as a Christian bigot, a patriarchal supremacist, an uneducated, crazy, anti-poor, anti-abortion “uppity loudmouth” besides being that supreme abomination, a White Latino. If there’s some sacred cow in the Leftist canon Ted Cruz has left undefiled, he will soon enough defile it. That’s the plan.

Cruz was intentionally provocative because he intends to make the Left itself the main issue. People of all shapes and sizes were rising to their feet, clapping their hands raw and shouting themselves hoarse not because they necessarily agree with his policy positions, but because he was sticking it to the Man. He was knocking Gessler’s hat off the pole in the public square and the onlookers loved it.

In around the year 1307 the Habsburg overlords of the alps appointed a man called Gessler to rule over the villagers. Gessler hung his hat on a pole in the square and demanded that all the townsfolk bow before the hat.

We all know what happened next. A fellow named William Tell wandered into the village and did the unthinkable. He refused to bow before the hat.

On 18 November 1307, Tell visited Altdorf with his young son and passed by the hat, publicly refusing to bow to it, and so was arrested. Gessler—intrigued by Tell’s famed marksmanship, yet resentful of his defiance—devised a cruel punishment: Tell and his son would be executed, but he could redeem his life by shooting an apple off the head of his son, Walter, in a single attempt. Tell split the apple with a bolt from his crossbow.

William tell did something everyone thought was impossible. He resisted. The power of Ted Cruz’s speech stems from his refusal to bow before the liberal hat. If you were to re-write his speech into its essentials it might sound like this. “Imagine if we could tell all the stuffed shirts in the media to buzz off. Imagine if we could tell the busybodies to butt out our lives. Imagine if we could actually tell the IRS we want to keep our money. Imagine if we could the tell the NSA you need a warrant to tap my phone. Imagine if we didn’t have to feel guilty of being Americans. Imagine that we could call Islamic terrorism by its name.”

Of course Cruz put it more cannily then that, but that was the message. We can continue.

“But you don’t have to imagine because I’m doing it right now. I am standing right here, committing what is accounted political suicide saying every damned thing you ever felt like saying but couldn’t. I’m on YouTube giving every bit of lip you were afraid to give for fear you might lose your job. Do you see that hat over there my friend? I’m going to knock it down. All I am asking you to do is take out your cellphones and punch in this number and by that ever so negligible act, join in the fray!”

Yippee. There’s not a few who would rise to their feet under the sting of that message and bang their palms together not out of the love of Ted Cruz, but under the impetus of shame. Shame that it took so long for someone to say what was obvious; shame that they hadn’t said it themselves.

The intellectual establishment has predictably taken the bait. Bearded so openly, they have sneered and they snorted and cast aspersions down like ordure from their high towers upon the rabble beneath. That’s exactly the expected response and they’ve only confirmed Cruz’s message. By and by the worst of these taunts will be withdrawn by canny media analysts who understand the trap as laid, but the damage is done. Ted Cruz wanted the aristocracy to show its upturned face and that, it has done.

If anyone wants to know why there was such a wave of emotion in response to his incendiary pronouncements, it is the resentment of the serfs, who dream of being serfs no more. The liberals aren’t fighting Cruz. They’re fighting their whole sordid history of high handed deception.

http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2015/03/24/william-cruz/
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 24, 2015, 07:16:57 AM
Give me an example of an extreme right wing political viewpoint.

Global warming skeptic? Most people are.

Supports second amendment? Most people do.

Against amnesty? Most people are.

Against Obamacare? Most people are.

Abolish IRS? Oh please, I can hear the hurrahs before they are even shouted.

So, lefties, please tell me how Ted Cruz is an extremist and out of sync with the american people?
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 24, 2015, 07:23:23 AM
Give me an example of an extreme right wing political viewpoint.

Global warming skeptic? Most people are.

Supports second amendment? Most people do.

Against amnesty? Most people are.

Against Obamacare? Most people are.

Abolish IRS? Oh please, I can hear the hurrahs before they are even shouted.

So, lefties, please tell me how Ted Cruz is an extremist and out of sync with the american people?

what :D a majority of people do believe in global warming
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Post by: James on March 24, 2015, 07:24:52 AM
what :D a majority of people do believe in global warming

Poll: 53 Percent Of Americans Don’t Believe In Man-Made Global Warming

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/26/poll-53-of-americans-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/
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Post by: blacken700 on March 24, 2015, 07:30:19 AM
Poll: 53 Percent Of Americans Don’t Believe In Man-Made Global Warming

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/26/poll-53-of-americans-dont-believe-in-man-made-global-warming/

nice try, over 60% believe in global warming.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 24, 2015, 07:45:53 AM
why did you try to slip in the man made when that's not what you posted originally nor is it what your man cruz believes,you know he doesn't believe in global warming at all, man made of not.nice try anyway
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Post by: blacken700 on March 24, 2015, 07:58:54 AM
why did you try to slip in the man made when that's not what you posted originally nor is it what your man cruz believes,you know he doesn't believe in global warming at all, man made of not.nice try anyway

explane why you changed the wording,come on it's not that hard you know why you did it :D
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Post by: James on March 24, 2015, 07:59:54 AM
Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/







Once again, Give me an example of an extreme political viewpoint held by Cruz?
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Post by: James on March 24, 2015, 08:05:24 AM
explane why you changed the wording,come on it's not that hard you know why you did it :D


What is "explane"?

lol
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Post by: headhuntersix on March 24, 2015, 08:09:17 AM
thats a plane without wings.....come on dude!
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Post by: blacken700 on March 24, 2015, 08:10:04 AM
explane why you changed the wording,come on it's not that hard you know why you did it :D

I guess your not going to answer,doesn't matter I know why you did it as does anybody who reads this :D the same reason you went from Global warming skeptic? Most people are to a Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming

Global warming skeptic? Most people are.

Supports second amendment? Most people do.

Against amnesty? Most people are.

Against Obamacare? Most people are.

Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 24, 2015, 08:13:34 AM
Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/
Once again, Give me an example of an extreme political viewpoint held by Cruz?

Do you ever bother to read the comments on articles that you post (or read)

Here are the first three comments on the article:

Quote
The survey the author cites isn’t “scientists” as stated in the title of the op-ed, it is a survey of the Association of Professional Engineers, Geologists and Geophysicists of Alberta. That’s like surveying tobacco company CEO’s about the dangers of smoking. It would be a reasonable piece about the opinion of petroleum engineers in Alberta if that was made clear, instead that was hidden. I wonder why?

Quote
“Only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis, according to a survey reported in the peer-reviewed Organization Studies.”

Mr. Taylor,

As in previous weeks, your editorial rests on misrepresentation of the facts. As billb notes, the survey was conducted by APEGA, a professional organization of engineers and geoscientists in the province of Alberta. According to the study you cite:

“[T]he petroleum industry – through oil and gas companies, related industrial services, and consulting services – is the largest employer, either directly or indirectly, of professional engineers and geoscientists in Alberta.”

Failing to mention this fact is a clear case of misrepresentation. Why are you so eager to mislead Forbes readers? Obviously these survey results cannot honestly be extrapolated to engineers and geoscientists in general as you are trying to do.

“By contrast, a strong majority of the 1,077 respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of recent global warming and/or that future global warming will not be a very serious problem.”

This assertion is directly contradicted by the APEGA report itself which summarizes the results as follows:

27.4% believe it is caused by primarily natural factors (natural variation, volcanoes, sunspots, lithosphere motions, etc.), 25.7% believe it is caused by primarily human factors (burning fossil fuels, changing land use, enhanced water
 evaporation due to irrigation), and 45.2% believe that climate change is caused by both human and natural factors.

Mr. Taylor, in case you are unaware, a “majority” constitutes 50% or more of a sample. In this instance, there is no majority opinion regarding the primary cause of climate change among the APEGA members who responded to the survey. Once again you are misinforming Forbes readers in order to prop up the Heartland Institute’s favored policy of free market environmentalism.

Mr. Taylor, if you have a good argument in favor of free market environmentalism, you should make it. However, your weekly attempts to mislead the public about climate science strongly suggest you don’t have a good argument.

Quote
Wow, you did not actually read the article did you? Here’s a paragraph that should have given you a hint about the sample the authors used:

To address this, we reconstruct the frames of one group of experts who have not received much attention in previous research and yet play a central role in understanding industry responses – professional experts in petroleum and related industries. Not only are we interested in the positions they take towards climate change and in the recommendations for policy development and organizational decision-making that they derive from their framings, but also in how they construct and attempt to safeguard their expert status against others. To gain an understanding of the competing expert claims and to link them to issues of professional resistance and defensive institutional work, we combine insights from various disciplines and approaches: framing, professions literature, and institutional theory.

This is pretty classic denialist cherry-picking. The authors surveyed a group a geoscientists in Alberta that were largely drawn from industry. This is nothing like the Oreskes surveys which evaluate the position of a cross-section of experts and consistently find that the overwhelming majority of climate scientists accept the consensus. This is like surveying the tobacco companies on whether or not they believe smoking causes cancer. You also failed to contact the author of the paper for comment (I did, and pointed her to this coverage).

For those interested in what the study actually says, I would suggest actually reading it, rather than accepting this summary at face value. I would describe the paper as demonstrating that within a population of geoscientists in Alberta, largely coming from the oil and gas industry, there are 5 general ways of viewing global warming, or “frames”. The most common of these frames is actually the one most consistent with the IPCC consensus at 36%, that green house gases are the driver of global warming and we need to do something about it. Another 5% believed that regulation for green house gases was necessary even if there still is uncertainty or nature as a dominant driver of climate change. Other frames included a one based on fear of economic regulation (10%) that is largely hostile to the IPCC consensus, and another that nature was the primary driver of global warming (24%), man is insignificant, and these respondents used emotionally-heated language and religious metaphor to attack believers in global warming. There were also frames that could be described as fatalist (17%), global warming is real, but we can’t really do anything about it etc.

Those most likely to believe the “nature” and “economic” frames were white, male, more likely to be in industry at the upper tiers of their corporations.

So, to summarize, this paper demonstrated that when surveying a population, largely consisting of geoscientists and engineers working for the the oil and gas industry, the most common view of global warming (between 36 and 41% if you add the two frames) is that it’s real and we need to do something about it. About 34% of respondents were hostile to the idea of green house gas-cause global warming and the consensus science, and these individuals were more likely to be in the upper tiers of these corporations. Finally, about 17% of respondents said we’re screwed either way (the rest couldn’t be grouped or denied adequate expertise to respond).

In other words, it kind of shows the exact opposite of what Taylor suggests, and could not possibly be generalized to scientists as whole.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 24, 2015, 08:16:55 AM
Do you ever bother to read the comments on articles that you post (or read)

Here are the first three comments on the article:


he'll just try to lie his way out of it,that seems to be what he does ;D
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 24, 2015, 08:18:16 AM
I guess you not going to answer,doesn't matter I know why you did it as does anybody who reads this :D the same reason you went from Global warming skeptic? Most people are to a Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming

Global warming skeptic? Most people are.

Supports second amendment? Most people do.

Against amnesty? Most people are.

Against Obamacare? Most people are.

Such eloquent writing skills.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: blacken700 on March 24, 2015, 08:18:50 AM
Such eloquent writing skills.

you lie more than a politician,if that's possible :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Straw Man on March 24, 2015, 08:28:53 AM
he'll just try to lie his way out of it,that seems to be what he does ;D

I think you're giving him too much credit

you assume he knows the truth and is lying

I think it's more likely either willful ignorance (refuse to even look at all the data) or just plain old run of the mill stupidity
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Dos Equis on March 24, 2015, 10:24:28 AM
thats a plane without wings.....come on dude!

 ;D
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: James on March 26, 2015, 11:54:56 AM
The most recent Poll from March 5 - 8, 2015

(http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/q2dzl6386um5ycwpz4kryq.png)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/182105/concern-environmental-threats-eases.aspx

Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on January 11, 2016, 10:13:46 PM
Dems should be SCARED of Cruz.   Very scared. 

OH, look, they are.

Donald Trump + Lawrence ODonnell are coordinating their attacks on Cruz now.

Dems are scared, that's for sure.   And the "repubs" that support these pseudo-repub candidates are scared of Cruz too.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Agnostic007 on January 12, 2016, 08:13:40 AM
One thing positive I can say about Cruz is when Donald blasts him he takes the high road. I'm so sick of politicians bashing each other for the sake of winning that it is refreshing when someone refuses to take the bait and fire back... call it beta, fear, whatever, I can't help but appreciate it
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2016, 05:34:06 PM
Have you seen the stories over the past few days?
Rush, Levin and laura ingraham all destroying Bush, calling him a RINO, saying that repubs cannot make that same mistake again.

I heard a great item... repubs have won big FIVE times since 1980.  EVERY TIME they won women.  1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, and 2010 - EVERY TIME they had a very conservative ticket, with 2010 being that mid-term tea party big year.   And think of the years where repubs went RINO... 2008, 2012, both bad defeats, both with a RINO.

Cruz or Lose.   Walker, maybe, but IMO he hasn't been vetted nationally yet... I don't fear Cruz skeletons in closet.  With walker, I do.  He admitted he thought about using violence to get a peaceful protest to riot level... anyone that careless surely has ten years of mistakes following him.   Cruz, he's just too "goober" to have that kind of reckless past.   


Liar.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2016, 05:52:36 PM
Lol you just chided me for old threads.  Now u do it.  I'm sorry your hero Carson ended up a lying psychopath.  Next time, u should obey my prediction.  Reign base is really that stupid.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2016, 05:54:01 PM
Lol you just chided me for old threads.  Now u do it.  I'm sorry your hero Carson ended up a lying psychopath.  Next time, u should obey my prediction.  Reign base is really that stupid.

I'm playing your stupid little game.  That makes me as dumb as you.  The difference is I realize it's stupid, and I'll quit in a few minutes.  But you'll still be a dishonest idiot.   :)
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2016, 05:58:36 PM
I'm playing your stupid little game.  That makes me as dumb as you.  The difference is I realize it's stupid, and I'll quit in a few minutes.  But you'll still be a dishonest idiot.   :)

Republicans had the PERFECT candidate in Cruz.   CNN announced he just dropped out.   You and your people were too ignorant to choose a conservative.  Choose Cruz, or you will lose.  And now you lose.

Everyone who quietly said "I like some of trump's ideas...", this is on you.  Enjoy it.
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: Dos Equis on May 03, 2016, 06:01:56 PM
Republicans had the PERFECT candidate in Cruz.   CNN announced he just dropped out.   You and your people were too ignorant to choose a conservative.  Choose Cruz, or you will lose.  And now you lose.

Everyone who quietly said "I like some of trump's ideas...", this is on you.  Enjoy it.

Oh shut up you lying troll.   ::)
Title: Re: Cruz or Lose... It's official via Twitter, he's running!
Post by: 240 is Back on May 03, 2016, 06:06:46 PM
Oh shut up you lying troll.   ::)

Cruz was the conservative they said they wanted.   THen they traded him in for TV fame, twitter wars, women bashing and extremism.
The GOP lost in a big way tonight.  :(