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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TheShape. on February 26, 2015, 07:07:59 AM
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So at least 3 times a day at work, people compliment my physique because it's just too overpowering,with my godlike v taper, small waist, and being 3.27 Heaths wide. But anyways the same bullshit routine of conversation ensues where someone says, "Oh! You must work out? Where do you work out?" And stuff like that. Anyways, this guy who walks with a limp, narrow clavicles, potbelly genetic defective, who looks like he never worked out a day in his life asks me how much I bench. So I tell him I don't ego lift so I don't know, and hope he just goes away after my response. Well, he goes on to tell me that he himself is very strong and benched 450 in his prime. Then he says with a serious face that he still can rep 365 for 5 reps. The story smelled of horse shit so I just nodded and said "That's very good." Where do people get off with these inflated bench claims? A legit 405 bench is rare, hell, even a clean 315 press is rare. Most of the time someone claims a high bench they only go down a half inch and have their buddy deadlift it off of them. /Rant
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How much do you bench? I can rep 405 about 112 times.
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hate that question as there is always some dude they know if not them who is bigger and better. Or... "I was your size before, a bit bigger even" Yes.. Always a bit bigger, of course you were!
Then they always pull up their sleeve, flex and say "see, touch, still hard!" and if you agree (just to shut them up) their ego is inflated or if you say what you think, you're an asshole.
Just can't win with these people, lol...
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hate that question as there is always some dude they know if not them who is bigger and better. Or... "I was your size before, a bit bigger even" Yes.. Always a bit bigger, of course you were!
Then they always pull up their sleeve, flex and say "see, touch, still hard!" and if you agree (just to shut them up) their ego is inflated or if you say what you think, you're an asshole.
Just can't win with these people, lol...
The best is when they say something like, "Oh yeah, my brother or father or uncle or friend used to be a bodybuilder. He was huge." Then you see a picture of these so called bodybuilders and they are either skinny with abs or weigh 400 pounds.
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I rarlely see anyone bench even over 315 on the gyms I go to(not as much roids in Sweden as in US i think). If it is then it's a big guy that you can see has power for it. A regular looking guy to tell me he benches those numbers I would just in general say "no you don't".
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The best is when they say something like, "Oh yeah, my brother or father or uncle or friend used to be a bodybuilder. He was huge." Then you see a picture of these so called bodybuilders and they are either skinny with abs or weigh 400 pounds.
Yup.
Worst is... Lots of skinny ass rakes at my gym can dumbell press 90's-100's but never could do 2 plates.
Not sure which muscles they're using to go from point A to point B but meh... Not important, lol, they all look like shit...
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I usually see spotters do more upright rows than the bencher doing bench
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I rarlely see anyone bench even over 315 on the gyms I go to(not as much roids in Sweden as in US i think). If it is then it's a big guy that you can see has power for it. A regular looking guy to tell me he benches those numbers I would just in general say "no you don't".
Very true, but I've been surprised too many times by dudes who can bench more than me, lol! I guess when you don't train back or legs, you can muster out some good bench numbers...
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I like the one my arm was twice the size of yours,,,ok wow 34 inches that must have been insane..
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I usually see spotters do more upright rows than the bencher doing bench
up right rows at first, then flat out bent over rows to assist the clown to then high five him with the standard "it was all you" comment.
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up right rows at first, then flat out bent over rows to assist the clown to then high five him with the standard "it was all you" comment.
This skinny clown once asked me to spot him. I said ok. He was trying to lift more than he could. He barely got the first rep up and the second he was at a dead stop about an inch from his chest. He was essentially going to squish himself so I help him finish the rep. he gets up all mad at how he had that and how I ruined his set. I told him to fuck off and find another spotter and went back to my workout. Delusional fucking idiots.
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about 4 plates , on the hammer , hardcore baby
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This skinny clown once asked me to spot him. I said ok. He was trying to lift more than he could. He barely got the first rep up and the second he was at a dead stop about an inch from his chest. He was essentially going to squish himself so I help him finish the rep. he gets up all mad at how he had that and how I ruined his set. I told him to fuck off and find another spotter and went back to my workout. Delusional fucking idiots.
Very good explanation as to why I make 0 eye contact with anyone to avoid living such situations, lol... Not gonna inflate his ego by allowing him to even think he can pull that shit off.
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This skinny clown once asked me to spot him. I said ok. He was trying to lift more than he could. He barely got the first rep up and the second he was at a dead stop about an inch from his chest. He was essentially going to squish himself so I help him finish the rep. he gets up all mad at how he had that and how I ruined his set. I told him to fuck off and find another spotter and went back to my workout. Delusional fucking idiots.
This has happened to me before. The guy complained that he usually gets 10 to twelve reps with his usual spotter and only got one when I spotted him.
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I like the one my arm was twice the size of yours,,,ok wow 34 inches that must have been insane..
Celebrated getbigger MattC wrote a 50-post treatise/meltdown on this topic once.
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Jokes on you guys. Nobody bothers me about this crap.
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10 plates , ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)course they're all 5's.....
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10 plates , ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)course they're all 5's.....
Relax creepy old man schmoe, nobody is accusing your muscleman hero Pat Casey of not being strong.
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I'm too jacked for most to be brave enough to tell me their "has been" stories, but these who does, I simply answer "350lb.....for 6-7 reps.", the next question is usualy for how long I've been training and I say that for well over a decade, then they change topic (as even a though of doing something that requires will and determination for so many years to most is uncomprehensible).
Drunk guys are the most annoying, I try to escape a possible convo as fast as I can as most likely there will be a question "Yeah man... but why do you do that?" (translation - why aren't you like me... out of shape, drinking and being lazy).
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I'm too jacked for most to be brave enough to tell me their "has been" stories, but these who does, I simply answer "350lb.....for 6-7 reps.", the next question is usualy for how long I've been training and I say that for well over a decade, then they change topic (as even a though of doing something that requires will and determination for so many years to most is uncomprehensible).
Drunk guys are the most annoying, I try to escape a possible convo as fast as I can as most likely there will be a question "Yeah man... but why do you do that?" (translation - why aren't you like me... out of shape, drinking and being lazy).
was doorman for 6 fuckin' years. Have had my ear chewed off like ya wouldn't believe. If not hearing about their massive and impressive beer muscles, it was their epic fighting skills I'd hear about.
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this has been posted before but well...i know itīs not really funny but FFS...
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was doorman for 6 fuckin' years. Have had my ear chewed off like ya wouldn't believe. If not hearing about their massive and impressive beer muscles, it was their epic fighting skills I'd hear about.
One of the most bizarre I ever had was some guy who made it a point to walk clear across the gym and the first words of his mouth to me was, "I could have lifted that much today but my shoulder has been bothering me"
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The best answer to the Question of "how much do you bench" is MORE THAN YOU.
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Relax creepy old man schmoe, nobody is accusing your muscleman hero Pat Casey of not being strong.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D you verrry verrry funnny guy,,,, not funny ha ha funny queer.
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was doorman for 6 fuckin' years. Have had my ear chewed off like ya wouldn't believe. If not hearing about their massive and impressive beer muscles, it was their epic fighting skills I'd hear about.
i love degrading doorman with ILS
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One of the most bizarre I ever had was some guy who made it a point to walk clear across the gym and the first words of his mouth to me was, "I could have lifted that much today but my shoulder has been bothering me"
Well.. My shoulder is feelin' good today, so watch out!!!
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405 lbs by 5 reps @235 bdwt never do singles. :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Well.. My shoulder is feelin' good today, so watch out!!!
when someone moan to me about injury i tell them
TIME TO QUIT OLD WASHED UP PIECE OF GARBAGE
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I LOVE THE YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN ME 10/20 YRS AGO...OR IN MY 20'S I WAS SHREDDED LIKE YOU ,
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315 for 8. thats about as high as ill go... i dont have a partner
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I LOVE THE YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN ME 10/20 YRS AGO...OR IN MY 20'S I WAS SHREDDED LIKE YOU ,
AHAHAHA SHREDDED LIKE YOU? BUT YOU LOOK SMOOTH LIKE A MIDDLE AGED WASHED UP BBER
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one of the few times I was like 'damn'to someone who was out of shape and didn't resemble anything close to his 'prime'guy I worked with wasn't around long at work at the time showed a picture from 80's and he looked great 'big/ripped/shape,he trained with gaspari so that tells you,he said rich said then he potential as much as Richie did..
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rich gaspari potential? just a twink manlet juiced to the max
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AHAHAHA SHREDDED LIKE YOU? BUT YOU LOOK SMOOTH LIKE A MIDDLE AGED WASHED UP BBER
thanks...i'm sure you look fantastic...
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thanks...i'm sure you look fantastic...
defensive insecure old man
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defensive insecure old man
yawn,,,i'll pass gimmick,,,
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I rarlely see anyone bench even over 315 on the gyms I go to(not as much roids in Sweden as in US i think). If it is then it's a big guy that you can see has power for it. A regular looking guy to tell me he benches those numbers I would just in general say "no you don't".
I agree with this....over the years I have only seen 3 people in my gym even bench 315....if someone can bench 315 they are exceptional....I know on Getbig, EVERYONE claims to be benching much more than this..LOL...
My bench topped out at 285...couldn't even budge the bar after that......I tried to reach 315...that was my goal....but couldn't do it...
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I agree with this....over the years I have only seen 3 people in my gym even bench 315....if someone can bench 315 they are exceptional....I know on Getbig, EVERYONE claims to be benching much more than this..LOL...
My bench topped out at 285...couldn't even budge the bar after that......I tried to reach 315...that was my goal....but couldn't do it...
I've only seen it 3 times and they were all large framed guys with gigantic wrists. I'm just getting there with my bird bones.
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I tell people I don't bench when I work out so I don't know.
Someone said a clean and press of 315 is rare. I have never seen it in a gym and I have been in gyms for 40 plus years.
Bodybuilding is full of low self esteem guys who are insecure. That's why you see guys take the huge dumbbells and proceed to short stroke the various presses so they can handle it. The leg press is the absolute worst. Lower the back board so your knees can come back and bend your legs instead of doing little shallow bends.
One guy I use to work with is a powerlifter. He wears those crazy bench shirt contraptions. He inverts his body into an upsidedown U on the bench while inflating his chest with a wide grip. I think the bar travels about 15 inches. Isn't the point to make your body stronger and not to lift a weight in the easiest way possible?
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i usually just say "at least the bar"
bench
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I always just say "Not enough". The question bores the shit out of me.
Also;
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315 C+J>405 Bench
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I've only seen it 3 times and they were all large framed guys with gigantic wrists. I'm just getting there with my bird bones.
good point..the people I saw do it had the same structure...and yes..they also had thick wrists...wonder if that the key???...one guy I saw do it was 18.....but he was about 6'4
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There's really no reason barring having some sort of disease that a man shouldn't be able to obtain a 315lbs bench press. You don't need to be some thick boned Neanderthal genetic obsessed freak to be able to do that.
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There's really no reason barring having some sort of disease that a man shouldn't be able to obtain a 315lbs bench press. You don't need to be some thick boned Neanderthal genetic obsessed freak to be able to do that.
yeah. but how many reps? 315 x10 should be the standard. if you get that you are legit strong.
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When people ask me that or anything workout related i always tell them i don't even workout. Always get a funny reaction from that.
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Well.. My shoulder is feelin' good today, so watch out!!!
Bring it damn on!!! :P
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There's really no reason barring having some sort of disease that a man shouldn't be able to obtain a 315lbs bench press. You don't need to be some thick boned Neanderthal genetic obsessed freak to be able to do that.
Tell me about it. Bill Phillips system "how to increase your bench by 50lbs" had me break that barrier when I was 18 and over 5 years from ever using gear.
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Bring it damn on!!! :P
Well, shoulder was good but 2.5 weeks of german volume training has my CNS in the gutter. No idea how people recover from that let alone on a 5 day split as Poliquin has them do.
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Well, shoulder was good but 2.5 weeks of german volume training has my CNS in the gutter. No idea how people recover from that let alone on a 5 day split as Poliquin has them do.
i use regular pyramid 3 weeks out of the month and i use german volume 1 week.
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I can load 405 on the bar pretty easy. Never thought of actually trying to press it :-\
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i use regular pyramid 3 weeks out of the month and i use german volume 1 week.
Well said, was thinking of using it very sparingly. Eye's are even twithin' it burned me so bad...
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benched 227lbs for 25 reps about a month ago.
I like to fine tune my weights
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benched 227lbs for 25 reps about a month ago.
I like to fine tune my weights
and still you look like a fat gollem with marshmellow 15" arms
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and still you look like a fat gollem with marshmellow 15" arms
thanks asshole ::)
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thanks asshole ::)
why do you write books about bodybuilding when you can't even get in shape? ???
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why do you write books about bodybuilding when you can't even get in shape? ???
Why do you suck horribly at identifying online forum posters ???
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Truthfully, after three decades of consistent lifting, I don't wanna talk to anyone about weight training. It's almost always to hear some clown tell me about his routine and what he's doing. Like I give two shits. Its like, I was lifting long before you began, bud, and I'll be lifting long after you've given up and become some jackassey Mr. Mom, so ... Yeah, fuck off, is what I'm saying.
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Truthfully, after three decades of consistent lifting, I don't wanna talk to anyone about weight training. It's almost always to hear some clown tell me about his routine and what he's doing. Like I give two shits. Its like, I was lifting long before you began, bud, and I'll be lifting long after you've given up and become some jackassey Mr. Mom, so ... Yeah, fuck off, is what I'm saying.
too bad your muscles didnt grow in proportion to your ego over all those decades ::)
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100 lbs. - 10 reps...
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too bad your muscles didnt grow in proportion to your ego over all those decades ::)
I'm sure a legend like Fortress is worried about what a 20-post newb gimmick thinks of him ::)
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I'm sure a legend like Fortress is worried about what a 20-post newb gimmick thinks of him ::)
he has his head so far up his cottage cheese ass that he wouldnt know how bad he looked if he was in a house of mirrors
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100 lbs. - 10 reps...
:o
Raw or single ply?
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10 plates , ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)course they're all 5's.....
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Pic taken at my beloved Stern's gym on Granada St. in San Diego.
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Truthfully, after three decades of consistent lifting, I don't wanna talk to anyone about weight training. It's almost always to hear some clown tell me about his routine and what he's doing. Like I give two shits. Its like, I was lifting long before you began, bud, and I'll be lifting long after you've given up and become some jackassey Mr. Mom, so ... Yeah, fuck off, is what I'm saying.
Good post, I feel the same... Especially when they think I actually care to hear their shitty ass routine. Save that crap for your FB page already...
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I agree with this....over the years I have only seen 3 people in my gym even bench 315....if someone can bench 315 they are exceptional....I know on Getbig, EVERYONE claims to be benching much more than this..LOL...
My bench topped out at 285...couldn't even budge the bar after that......I tried to reach 315...that was my goal....but couldn't do it...
That is completely true. On internet boards every other guy can do that, irl I only see weird stares from these around when I bench as like they see an alien. Yeah I sound like one of these who "can do that", but I can, that's the difference.
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good point..the people I saw do it had the same structure...and yes..they also had thick wrists...wonder if that the key???...one guy I saw do it was 18.....but he was about 6'4
The funny thing is, if I'm wearing loose/oversized clothes, you'd think "Yeah, this guy is quite big, but not all that" (as my bones are tiny), but then I start racking the weight haha..
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yeah. but how many reps? 315 x10 should be the standard. if you get that you are legit strong.
To me the standard is and will always be 405 as far as if you're a strong presser or not, 440lbs/200kg being a great bench presser, the latter being a bit biased seeing as that's my all time personal best. These guys claiming 315 is such an oddity in their gyms must train at a planet fitness, at the Golds I'm out of I've seen that weight repped out more times than I can count over the years. Though a double bodyweight bench also puts you at a elite level as well in my book.
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To me the standard is and will always be 405 as far as if you're a strong presser or not, 440lbs/200kg being a great bench presser, the latter being a bit biased seeing as that's my all time personal best. These guys claiming 315 is such an oddity in their gyms must train at a planet fitness, at the Golds I'm out of I've seen that weight repped out more times than I can count over the years. Though a double bodyweight bench also puts you at a elite level as well in my book.
Honestly I would use that benchmark more indicative of a strong presser rather than being able to put up 405.
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this has been posted before but well...i know itīs not really funny but FFS...
Wow :D ;D he could have died
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Wow :D ;D he could have died
There's still time.
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Honestly I would use that benchmark more indicative of a strong presser rather than being able to put up 405.
Really?! How many double their bodyweight on the bench WITHOUT the use of drugs? And I'm not talking about the 165-pound guy, either. I am talking about the large man (250+).
To me, this is the serious flaw in thinking as it concerns poundage lifted: Our concept of strong has been SO warped by the several decades of rampant drug/hormone use. We begin to think a 600-pound squat isn't such a big deal; or that a guy who can pull 700 isn't all that terrific a deadlifter.
Seriously, how many on this board can HONESTLY state they've pressed four or greater without the help of steroids? And if you had done them, but were not at the time of your pressing achievement, for what length of time had you been off, prior?
As with everything in this world, it would seem, the world of weight training has become so in incredibly twisted and distorted.
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Really?! How many double their bodyweight on the bench WITHOUT the use of drugs? And I'm not talking about the 165-pound guy, either. I am talking about the large man (250+).
To me, this is the serious flaw in thinking as it concerns poundage lifted: Our concept of strong has been SO warped by the several decades of rampant drug/hormone use. We begin to think a 600-pound squat isn't such a big deal; or that a guy who can pull 700 isn't all that terrific a deadlifter.
Seriously, how many on this board can HONESTLY state they've pressed four or greater without the help of steroids? And if you had done them, but were not at the time of your pressing achievement, for what length of time had you been off, prior?
As with everything in this world, it would seem, the world of weight training has become so in incredibly twisted and distorted.
I'm not discounting the 405 lift AT ALL! That is a hellacious lift, no question about it.
Of course with these discussions you get into height aspect of it and all that but I find the 170 pound man of average stature lifting 350 more impressive than the heavier set 230 pound guy who can put up 405.
Don't get me wrong, the 4 plates on the bar is very impressive but give me the 2x bodyweight guy.
And it's not a "twisted or distorted" viewpoint, both men in those scenarios are incredibly strong and I have the highest respect for both.
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At my max I benched 525. Now I bench around 225 for reps. I'm as skinny as a rail these days but I feel good.
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Only when I was very young was I concerned with a big bench. There are
so many lifts out there. You might be strong in one and weak in another.
Jay Cutler can't even do a pull up. I don't care if he weighs 300 lbs.
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he has his head so far up his cottage cheese ass that he wouldnt know how bad he looked if he was in a house of mirrors
LOL.. Ok, that was funny :D
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Really?! How many double their bodyweight on the bench WITHOUT the use of drugs? And I'm not talking about the 165-pound guy, either. I am talking about the large man (250+).
To me, this is the serious flaw in thinking as it concerns poundage lifted: Our concept of strong has been SO warped by the several decades of rampant drug/hormone use. We begin to think a 600-pound squat isn't such a big deal; or that a guy who can pull 700 isn't all that terrific a deadlifter.
Seriously, how many on this board can HONESTLY state they've pressed four or greater without the help of steroids? And if you had done them, but were not at the time of your pressing achievement, for what length of time had you been off, prior?
As with everything in this world, it would seem, the world of weight training has become so in incredibly twisted and distorted.
Exactly... There's this pudgy Italian at work, 40 years old, lives alone, he dresses like Charlie Sheen and Mr. Rogers had a 3-way with Lawrence Welk, very odd dude. (Picture Charlie Sheen attire, plus a sweater vest, and a long sleeve dress shirt) (Kook).
He told me recently "I used to bench 325, double my body weight back in my 20's in the Air Force". I said "No you didn't, you must have your poundage's wrong".
I told him its a running joke in the iron game, everyone says "I used to bench 300 lbs." Naturally, he stormed off with his twinkle toe'd strut.
If you saw the guy you'd laugh. 5' 7" or so, 160 lbs, with a fairly large gut (Not a lick of muscle or tone)... Receding greasy hairline, lives alone, does his garden (maybe nude men on weekends in private?? I dont know but I suspect things).
I dont care if so, but he always talks (over does it) about women. (Ive known him 8 years, never had a girlfriend or date)...
Some people just need to slice their wrist like a cheese pizza...
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LOL.. Ok, that was funny :D
No, it IS funny, for sure. ;D
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a lot of girls are doing that on the leg curl machine. Looks kinda hot!
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There was some guy at my gym who was a former football player. I believe he played 1 year for the miami dolphins. He was 6'9" and about 310-320. Dude was juiced to the gills. Was benching 5 plates a side for reps. He used to incline press the 170 pd dumbbells for reps. Guy was insane.
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Back when i gave shit to bench i hit 495,dont bench any more at all.Last time i benched was a couple years ago and got 205 for 50.now prob get 225 for 10 if i was lucky.
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At my max I benched 525. Now I bench around 225 for reps. I'm as skinny as a rail these days but I feel good.
Shit!!!
how much did you weigh when you got 525
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Shit!!!
how much did you weigh when you got 525
About sixty pounds heavier. Three strick reps to the chest no assistance. And no bitch ass bench shirt Ive got a degenerative form of arthritis and stopped lifting heavy and have slimmed down a lot. My body couldn't handle the weight anymore. I had surgery for a torn labrum in late 08 and that was it for super heavy lifting for me. I tore my labrum playing baseball and it only got worse over the years until I got it fixed.
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About sixty pounds heavier. Three strick reps to the chest no assistance. And no bitch ass bench shirt Ive got a degenerative form of arthritis and stopped lifting heavy and have slimmed down a lot. My body couldn't handle the weight anymore. I had surgery for a torn labrum in late 08 and that was it for super heavy lifting for me. I tore my labrum playing baseball and it only got worse over the years until I got it fixed.
That's the classic story huh?
That heavy ass weight plays hell on the joints.
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That's the classic story huh?
That heavy ass weight plays hell on the joints.
It definitely is the classic story. I'm getting close to forty and I don't want to be all mangled when I retire. I feel better smaller and way more spry. When I get above 240 my body starts to ache.
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Pic taken a ;D ;D ;D ;D i think that chrome Russian Olympic set is now in the possession of one william pearl whom stern trained early on....
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I'm in that lightweight mode that Fortress mention, but I did do 325 at 175 ish, but that was without proper bench form.....Probably could have work up to double body weight if I had known about proper technique, deloading principles, etc....
But I ran into the same issues as archer - degeneration in the shoulders where bone hit bone. Just got the second shoulder fixed up. Although I could bench again, it'll probably be dumbbells and pushups from here on in.
If the internet was the way it is now back then, I think I could have avoided a lot of problems.
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I'm in that lightweight mode that Fortress mention, but I did do 325 at 175 ish, but that was without proper bench form.....Probably could have work up to double body weight if I had known about proper technique, deloading principles, etc....
But I ran into the same issues as archer - degeneration in the shoulders where bone hit bone. Just got the second shoulder fixed up. Although I could bench again, it'll probably be dumbbells and pushups from here on in.
If the internet was the way it is now back then, I think I could have avoided a lot of problems.
Holy shit thats a good bench bro! I can barely do that at 200lbs lol
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I'm in that lightweight mode that Fortress mention, but I did do 325 at 175 ish, but that was without proper bench form.....Probably could have work up to double body weight if I had known about proper technique, deloading principles, etc....
But I ran into the same issues as archer - degeneration in the shoulders where bone hit bone. Just got the second shoulder fixed up. Although I could bench again, it'll probably be dumbbells and pushups from here on in.
Nothing wrong with push ups and Dumbbells Grape. I have always liked Parallel Bar dips more than Bench press too.
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I'm in that lightweight mode that Fortress mention, but I did do 325 at 175 ish, but that was without proper bench form.....Probably could have work up to double body weight if I had known about proper technique, deloading principles, etc....
But I ran into the same issues as archer - degeneration in the shoulders where bone hit bone. Just got the second shoulder fixed up. Although I could bench again, it'll probably be dumbbells and pushups from here on in.
I do a lot of dumbell and machine work myself. 325 at 175 is damn good.
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I've been across numerous gyms in London over the past decade, some commercial and some more hardcore. During that time, I can probably count (with one hand) the amount of times I've seen a legit +400lb press performed. Even 315 is a rare occurrence.
Seems to be standard lift on the internet though. :D
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I've been across numerous gyms in London over the past decade, some commercial and some more hardcore. During that time, I can probably count (with one hand) the amount of times I've seen a legit +400lb press performed. Even 315 is a rare occurrence.
Seems to be standard lift on the internet though. :D
I think it's customary to double your bench numbers on the Internet, it's also customary to call out the other motherfuckers doing it.
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I've been across numerous gyms in London over the past decade, some commercial and some more hardcore. During that time, I can probably count (with one hand) the amount of times I've seen a legit +400lb press performed. Even 315 is a rare occurrence.
Seems to be standard lift on the internet though. :D
I get that. Who is going to believe me on the internet. It took me close to a decade to get up to that weight. I know people like to lie and exaggerate on the Internet but you're going to have to trust me.
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I get that. Who is going to believe me on the internet. It took me close to a decade to get up to that weight. I know people like to lie and exaggerate on the Internet but you're going to have to trust me.
Hard to take you seriously when you have "Team Shizzo" in your profile. :D
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The joint problems actually arent just from the heavy weight. First steroids will greatly inhibit longevity. You dont need imbalance between muscles, tendons, ligaments. Notice natural benchers competing 20 years plus.Second, many are actually doing hypertrophy training. All that added volume will break you down over the long run. Third bad form to lift heavy. Benching like a bb and not staying tight. Horrible For longevity.
Havent competed in years. Meet this summer. Like to do not talK. But the current 165 usapl bench record is the goal... after that the all time regardless of fed.
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Hard to take you seriously when you have "Team Shizzo" in your profile. :D
Damn, that was a harsh burn. You got me knooger. I'll change it to team knooger
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I get that. Who is going to believe me on the internet. It took me close to a decade to get up to that weight. I know people like to lie and exaggerate on the Internet but you're going to have to trust me.
I'm not necessarily saying you're lying (or anyone in this thread is for that matter) but it's just that there clearly is a trend for people to exaggerate their strength on internet boards.
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I'm not necessarily saying you're lying (or anyone in this thread is for that matter) but it's just that there clearly is a trend for people to exaggerate their strength on internet boards.
I agree and I understand. You have valid reasons to be skeptical. In the end, I know I did and my training buddies know I did so I'm satisfied.
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ive got a custom bench so im able to have one bar for each arm with a modest 8plates on each bar which I bang out for reps just to warm up, get the blood flowing you know before I do my actual lifts lads
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I agree and I understand. You have valid reasons to be skeptical. In the end, I know I did and my training buddies know I did so I'm satisfied.
It's believable as there are genuine beasts on this board. I know getbig has two posters who are verified monster benchers - Mike Wolfe (BigBadWolfe) has done massive numbers shirted and Ryan Dewitt (liquid_c) has done +600lbs raw.
Were you competing in PL when you did the +500lb bench?
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Really?! How many double their bodyweight on the bench WITHOUT the use of drugs? And I'm not talking about the 165-pound guy, either. I am talking about the large man (250+).
To me, this is the serious flaw in thinking as it concerns poundage lifted: Our concept of strong has been SO warped by the several decades of rampant drug/hormone use. We begin to think a 600-pound squat isn't such a big deal; or that a guy who can pull 700 isn't all that terrific a deadlifter.
Seriously, how many on this board can HONESTLY state they've pressed four or greater without the help of steroids? And if you had done them, but were not at the time of your pressing achievement, for what length of time had you been off, prior?
As with everything in this world, it would seem, the world of weight training has become so in incredibly twisted and distorted.
Things have been distorted. Yet only to some extent. Ive done 395 at 183lbs raw in upa, same in usapl. Around 10 years ago... stopped using insulin for 5 years before. Currently just started a traing cycle to compete again. Only doing 360 for pause rep sets right now, going for 165 lb class. However ive also worked out 25 years. Competed with and trained with founders of some of the most popular templates out there, nd been fortunate. If youre around powerlifters (not some guy v running sheiko, cube or some other nonsense) then the numbers you say arent impressive at all. Have you seen some of the recent numers. Things have changed in the last 10 years. This isnt wpo days anymore. I rember training with guys that did 900plus in a shirt. And only 550 raw. Today theres guys at 198lb class and under over 500. The standard in powerlifting has changed. As for guys saying a 3plate bench is rare.
Youre in box gyms. Thats why.
Ive done 4plates in training at bill crawfords years ago. And was one of the weakest people there. Adirondack barbell had teens repping 3 plates. Box gyms and strength gyms arent the same. Anyone remember ken liesters iron island gym?
At 24hour or la fitness these numbers are rare. But at a serious strength gym ive seen women with 3 plates. Granted im also tlking abot gyms where most ofbthe members compete.
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It's believable as there are genuine beasts on this board. I know getbig has two posters who are verified monster benchers - Mike Wolfe (BigBadWolfe) has done massive numbers shirted and Ryan Dewitt (liquid_c) has done +600lbs raw.
Were you competing in PL when you did the +500lb bench?
I wasn't competing but I did train occasionally with members of a PL club in my area.
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Nothing wrong with push ups and Dumbbells Grape. I have always liked Parallel Bar dips more than Bench press too.
I agree. Now that my shoulder is on the mend, I'd love to do dips again. We used to go nuts on those - 3 plates on the belt. Probably another reason my shoulders got fried.
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I do a lot of dumbell and machine work myself. 325 at 175 is damn good.
Thanks. I actually used the Sean Phillips routine "how to increase your bench press 50lbs in seven weeks"....I truly believe it works. After that rep, I put 225 on and got 18. It's been all down hill since that.....today, if i get under, say the squat bar with 325, I can't imagine how I could ever have benched it.
And I get that it's not much weight for the seriously strong people, like what you did, but as a natural ecto with shitty muscle bellies, I'll take it.
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Thanks. I actually used the Sean Phillips routine "how to increase your bench press 50lbs in seven weeks"....I truly believe it works. After that rep, I put 225 on and got 18. It's been all down hill since that.....today, if i get under, say the squat bar with 325, I can't imagine how I could ever have benched it.
And I get that it's not much weight for the seriously strong people, like what you did, but as a natural ecto with shitty muscle bellies, I'll take it.
I admit I wasn't natural at the time. I used that routine.
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About sixty pounds heavier. Three strick reps to the chest no assistance. And no bitch ass bench shirt Ive got a degenerative form of arthritis and stopped lifting heavy and have slimmed down a lot. My body couldn't handle the weight anymore. I had surgery for a torn labrum in late 08 and that was it for super heavy lifting for me. I tore my labrum playing baseball and it only got worse over the years until I got it fixed.
not judging at all... i totally beleive you. But were you all natural during this time? Im asking because Im doing an informal information gathering expedition for myself on juices and heavy lifting and its effects on joints, actually connective tissue to be more specific.
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not judging at all... i totally beleive you. But were you all natural during this time? Im asking because Im doing an informal information gathering expedition for myself on juices and heavy lifting and its effects on joints, actually connective tissue to be more specific.
You missed it - see above...not natural.
I should send you my surgery pics so you could tell me if I'm f'd or not. ;D
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not judging at all... i totally beleive you. But were you all natural during this time? Im asking because Im doing an informal information gathering expedition for myself on juices and heavy lifting and its effects on joints, actually connective tissue to be more specific.
Dbol and low dose test but not the whole time. I was only on a short six week cycle at the time. I wasn't a regular user. I've done three short cycles in twenty-five years. The third cycle was abandoned after I got pneumonia.
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I never attempted a single, but in 1991 I hit 315 for 3 reps at 170lbs... not bad for my small boned frame. In my experience, a persons joint/bone size is the major factor in how much someone can handle. Notices how all mega-benchers have huge wrists and joints. If you are small boned, forget about benching big weights.
During the last 30 years, I've seen many guys get hurt while attempting 1 rep maxes... a few almost killed themselves. Barbell benching eventually destroys your shoulders. IMO, guys over 40 should not be heavy/max benching.
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Dbol and low dose test but not the whole time. I was only on a short six week cycle at the time. I wasn't a regular user. I've done three short cycles in twenty-five years. The third cycle was abandoned after I got pneumonia.
Correction. Anadrol and low dose test cycle. I had to think about it.
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Correction. Anadrol and low dose test cycle. I had to think about it.
ok.. thanks. thats not really "Use" for the parameters Im researching. Im actually looking for more of the, "Regular User" that might have a pro longed effect on connective tissue.
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ok.. thanks. thats not really "Use" for the parameters Im researching. Im actually looking for more of the, "Regular User" that might have a pro longed effect on connective tissue.
My joint issues are primarily genetic.
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You missed it - see above...not natural.
I should send you my surgery pics so you could tell me if I'm f'd or not. ;D
i was talking about Archer... 3 short cycles in 25 years is still pretty natural in my book.
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Many many moons ago when I was a younger man
And into powerlifting.
At age 21 bdywght of 75kg I benched 180kg in comp
No gear ever at that time.
Best Poundages to Bodyweight for me was in my
Mid 30's around 92/3kg & 210kg bench
Was using by this time though Into bodybuilding
Not powerlifting.
Mind in the gym the other day was a disabled man
Missing most of one leg & the other from knee down.
@ 62kg he benches 190kg.. :o
Awesome.
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My friend claims to be natural but he benches 405x10
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315 C+J>405 Bench
Too bad it's not even a close comparison. It's like comparing a plank to a deadlift.
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My friend claims to be natural but he benches 405x10
I hope all of your friends don't lie to you
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Bret Contreras bugs the hell out of me. His arrogance is worthy of a bitch slap.
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i was talking about Archer... 3 short cycles in 25 years is still pretty natural in my book.
I was talking about archer too...he posted he was not natural right above your post.
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Never been much of a presser. I maxed 315 with a pause years ago when my shoulders were younger, while squats and deads are both in the 525+ range. I usually go no heavier than 275 for 3-4 reps these days.
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people still dont realize that "strength" on the "hardcore" exercises doesnt really mean much in terms of bodybuilding
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Almost all of my time and energy is spent on sets of 5-15 reps of the big compound exercises, and 8-15 reps on most of the secondary and "isolation" stuff. I rarely go below 5-6 reps on much of anything - rack pulls / deads, and the occasional 3-4 rep set on the bench being the primary exceptions.
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The joint problems actually arent just from the heavy weight. First steroids will greatly inhibit longevity. You dont need imbalance between muscles, tendons, ligaments. Notice natural benchers competing 20 years plus.Second, many are actually doing hypertrophy training. All that added volume will break you down over the long run. Third bad form to lift heavy. Benching like a bb and not staying tight. Horrible For longevity.
Havent competed in years. Meet this summer. Like to do not talK. But the current 165 usapl bench record is the goal... after that the all time regardless of fed.
Quality post here. Read it and learn, folks.
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this has been posted before but well...i know itīs not really funny but FFS...
LOL......hahahahhaha.... ..if I was in the room, I wouldn't assist
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Things have been distorted. Yet only to some extent. Ive done 395 at 183lbs raw in upa, same in usapl. Around 10 years ago... stopped using insulin for 5 years before. Currently just started a traing cycle to compete again. Only doing 360 for pause rep sets right now, going for 165 lb class. However ive also worked out 25 years. Competed with and trained with founders of some of the most popular templates out there, nd been fortunate. If youre around powerlifters (not some guy v running sheiko, cube or some other nonsense) then the numbers you say arent impressive at all. Have you seen some of the recent numers. Things have changed in the last 10 years. This isnt wpo days anymore. I rember training with guys that did 900plus in a shirt. And only 550 raw. Today theres guys at 198lb class and under over 500. The standard in powerlifting has changed. As for guys saying a 3plate bench is rare.
Youre in box gyms. Thats why.
Ive done 4plates in training at bill crawfords years ago. And was one of the weakest people there. Adirondack barbell had teens repping 3 plates. Box gyms and strength gyms arent the same. Anyone remember ken liesters iron island gym?
At 24hour or la fitness these numbers are rare. But at a serious strength gym ive seen women with 3 plates. Granted im also tlking abot gyms where most ofbthe members compete.
I'll say it again. Drugs.
The standard has changed, but so, too, has the drug component.
NO 198-pound guy is pressing 500 without using. And NO chick is benching three plates without using.
The guys in this thread who claim they've lifted 500+, they still haven't answered: Were they using? Of COURSE they were/are.
These days, everyone and his girlfriend is using. At my "box gym", I'd suggest at least 40 percent of the regular members are on. And these people are NOT hardcore/serious lifters.
The culture of drug use in gyms everywhere has become outrageous.
Just saying'.
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And let me add ...
The techniques used to achieve some of these unreal numbers have also changed.
Show me a drug-free lifter who Olympic squats 650 ass-to-grass (really ass-to-grass, not this horseshit that passes for this) and you're talking one of this planet's very strongest specimens.
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Women pressing 315 ? not sure about that one,
yeah Bev Francis, Paula Suzuki , Becca Swanson, and a few others have reached 315 but were juiced to the gills
A woman pressing 225 " natural" for a few reps would be astonishing to me, at almost any body weight too, you just don't see it anywhere
A natural male lifter pressing 365 under 220 bwt is pretty freakin' strong, not elite, but darn powerful presser
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The bench press is an interesting lift. Of all of the powerlifts it is perhaps the most dependent on natural body proportions and limb leverages (hence the prevalence of "bench-only specialists" ::)). I personally struggle the most with the bench press (I can push press more than my bench) but this is partly due to my refusal to adapt a benching technique that is not conducive to long-term shoulder and pec health. I would rather be able to slowly improve a decent close grip bench consistently for several decades than have a big wide grip, several inch ROM, elbows flared bodybuilder type bench for 6 months and end up with a blown pec.
And let me add ...
The techniques used to achieve some of these unreal numbers have also changed.
Show me a drug-free lifter who Olympic squats 650 ass-to-grass (really ass-to-grass, not this horseshit that passes for this) and you're talking one of this planet's very strongest specimens.
Hmmm... you got me thinking long and hard about that one... One that comes to mind is Kendrick Farriss (see below). Sure, 594lbs for 5 reps does not transfer over to 650 for one rep at all (not even close, no matter what rep-max calculation you want to use) but for an 85 kilo lifter who I believe is drug-free this is an impressive feat of strength. (The first rep was solid, the rest were legit but I cringe to think of the potential knee problems one could encounter squatting like this consistently). Also, possibly Mark Henry or Shane Hamman come to mind? (AND for the three lifters I mentioned we are literally talking the cream of the crop in US weightlifting in the last 20 years - not the average gym rats)
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That is completely true. On internet boards every other guy can do that, irl I only see weird stares from these around when I bench as like they see an alien. Yeah I sound like one of these who "can do that", but I can, that's the difference.
I would imagine internet boards about bodybuilding/strength/muscle etc. like this one attract a disproportionate fraction of the population that can do these things (e.g. bench 315) rather than a slice of the general population where that sort of strength is extremely rare.
In generally I agree with you though, I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen someone legitimately bench 315 or more but this seems to be a common feat in most getbigger's gyms.
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In generally I agree with you though, I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen someone legitimately bench 315 or more but this seems to be a common feat in most getbigger's gyms.
Same and some of those are no biggie as the ones doing them are fatsos.