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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arizona-shooting-range-instructor-killed-girl-uzi-n189611
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9yr old....Uzi....what could possibly go wrong?
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Known mental case + "therapeutic shooting outing" = Chris Kyle martyrdom.
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9yr old....Uzi....what could possibly go wrong?
In Somalia there are 6 year old skinnies using ak47's with ease
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Dat dere muzzle flip....
It walked up her shoulder, and she either couldn't control it or got scared.
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Was it full auto?
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Was it full auto?
Yep.
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In Somalia there are 6 year old skinnies using ak47's with ease
Americans getting outdone again.....
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9 years old, full auto? Seriously? ???
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hahaha
the parents should be hit in the face with a tack hammer.
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Does Groink have a nine year old daughter?
;D
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9 years old, full auto? Seriously? ???
the shooting range instructor was WILDLY irresponsible to ever let a little child use a full auto weapon.
Was he trying to be cute? Impress the mom and hope for some MILF action later? It's the only possible explanation.
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Somehow the video is online already ??? Looks like it cuts out the second the Uzi flies from right to left and looks to be going towards his face
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the shooting range instructor was WILDLY irresponsible to ever let a little child use a full auto weapon.
Exactly, he should be fired.
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Poor 9 year old girl - that's going to fuck her up big time. Not her fault, but she's gonna carry that with her for the rest of her life.
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Poor 9 year old girl - that's going to fuck her up big time. Not her fault, but she's gonna carry that with her for the rest of her life.
It will be a concealed carry though....
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It will be a concealed carry though....
I'm not sure we should permit such humor here.
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Only Chuck Norris can handle an Uzi
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This is all I need in my life. My bible, for when the days get bleak. I can sit down and read a few prayers to console myself. And my gun, the best friend I will ever have. My one true friend that will never leave my side. And my American flag, draped over my back, as I walk proudly singing our nations anthem.
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I'm not sure we should permit such humor here.
What if I have a concealed carry permit.........for humor?
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It will be a concealed carry though....
I lol'd
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i fired a 9mm uzi full auto when i was just 10 years old oddly enough. it was a blast to shoot and a crazy first gun to fire!
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At least he was wearing hearing protection.
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http://bulletsandburgers.com/ .
There's where it happened, apparently they get lots of Vegas tourists.
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That website is like a sketch on the old SCTV series. The only thing missing is a very fast delivery narration read by Dave Thomas. Bullets and Burgers in Melonville.
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Poor 9 year old girl - that's going to fuck her up big time. Not her fault, but she's gonna carry that with her for the rest of her life.
Two episodes of Hanna Montana and she will have forgotten all about it.
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At least the child wasn't hurt. The way the gun lurched she could have easily been shot in the head.
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At least the child wasn't hurt. The way the gun lurched she could have easily been shot in the head.
If you Google, you can find that an 8 year old boy did that very thing 6 years ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/jurors-uzi-trial-brace-graphic-replay/story?id=12556398
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/graphic-video-shown-in-boys-uzi-death/1d0z7d6pt
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haha
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Only Chuck Norris can handle an Uzi
That's an Ingram Mac-10, not an Uzi.
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That's an Ingram Mac-10, not an Uzi.
(http://www.topguntours.co.uk/Guns/Resources/mac10.jpeg)
Kid shoulda know about the difference, maybe if she did the incident could have been avoided.
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what Training do these "Instructors" receive before opening a Range? My first question is why was he standing at her side when she is shooting a short barelled weapon.. i would have stood behind her, holding the weapon with her. you know it makes sense ::)
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Two episodes of Hanna Montana and she will have forgotten all about it.
...will lead into Miley Cyrus and she'll be fucked up again!
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I was hunting with dad and grandfather in Louisiana by 9-10 but they only let me fire single shot weapons, so if there was a kick back there weren't any additional rounds going off at them or anyone else.
rapid fire uzi in the hands of a flimsy armed 9 yr old ::)
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Great idea to let kids handle guns! Such disgusting parents should be sterilized.
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He pretty much had it coming. Stupid fuck giving a 9 year old an UZI, she could have killed herself for fucks sake.
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He was being patronizing as hell. I say she did it on purpose.
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What if I have a concealed carry permit.........for humor?
You need to look at that again dumbass - it's not for humor.... It's your permit to be a complete pussy anonymously so that a real man doesn't bitch slap your punk ass. Fucking chopper rider - LOL - what are you a SAMCRO?? Lol
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what Training do these "Instructors" receive before opening a Range? My first question is why was he standing at her side when she is shooting a short barelled weapon.. i would have stood behind her, holding the weapon with her. you know it makes sense ::)
^^This. Also, why a weapon that's obviously outside the norm for a 9 year old to learn on? An Uzi? A full auto Uzi? How about a small.22 rifle from a sitting position?
It looks like the instructor was being "cute"...showing off for the parents or the cameras. Either way he made the fundamental mistake of treating the gun like a toy. I have zero sympathy for shit like this because it only hardens the anti-gun crowd.
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ive learned from video games that uzi is a weapon hard to handle, i rather use the steady shotgun it never disappoints
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ive learned from video games that uzi is a weapon hard to handle, i rather use the steady shotgun it never disappoints
;D
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Water on the mills of ... :(
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oh man lolololol. i almost passed out from laughing at my desk
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Kids are just fine with .22's. I'll put a kid behind a 9mm if the can grip the gun and show me they can hold it. Then only one shot in magazine.
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She won't recover. :'(
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You need to look at that again dumbass - it's not for humor.... It's your permit to be a complete pussy anonymously so that a real man doesn't bitch slap your punk ass. Fucking chopper rider - LOL - what are you a SAMCRO?? Lol
Ohhhh......we got a tough guy here!!!!!!!
Phaggot. ::)
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That website is like a sketch on the old SCTV series. The only thing missing is a very fast delivery narration read by Dave Thomas. Bullets and Burgers in Melonville.
Haha. Totally.
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dude needs to go back to instructor school
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The range needs to be immediately shut down, and the parents charged with child endangerment.
9 year old girl with an Uzi.......... ::)
Where the fuck are the age restrictions?
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Unfucking real, my daghter was taught how to shoot at 12 with an air arms gas air rifle, and i thoughtvtwice about that. My daughter has a skill for accuracy, good with a bow and an air rifle, a fucking uzi, what skills would any kid learn with that, fucking child abuse, what were the parents thinking.
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now the parents can teach her how to clean off blood , skull and brain off her face ,hair and cloths
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Unfucking real, my daghter was taught how to shoot at 12 with an air arms gas air rifle, and i thoughtvtwice about that. My daughter has a skill for accuracy, good with a bow and an air rifle, a fucking uzi, what skills would any kid learn with that, fucking child abuse, what were the parents thinking.
Starting with an air rifle is a good idea. Parents obviously weren't thinking.
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How about buying her a few toys and dolls instead.... Crazy idea I know, but I don't think like you murricans...
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why was this video uploaded on the interwebs? what sick person wants to watch someone get
murdered tragically killed?
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why was this video uploaded on the interwebs? what sick person wants to watch someone get murdered tragically killed?
x2. There are just some things you don't hit "upload" on.
Sick.
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Two episodes of Hanna Montana and she will have forgotten all about it.
Agreed. I think she is likely to forget about this in short order. Her parents on the other hand should be charged with child endagerment and/or involuntary manslaughter! >:(
As for the instructor... well, you can't cure stupid... Or can you? ::)
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why was this video uploaded on the interwebs? what sick person wants to watch someone get murdered tragically killed?
educational video of how not to teach a 9 year old girl to shoot an uzi
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Unfucking real, my daghter was taught how to shoot at 12 with an air arms gas air rifle, and i thoughtvtwice about that. My daughter has a skill for accuracy, good with a bow and an air rifle, a fucking uzi, what skills would any kid learn with that, fucking child abuse, what were the parents thinking.
That's the way one climbs the ranks.
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why was this video uploaded on the interwebs? what sick person wants to watch someone get murdered tragically killed?
The police department uploaded it.
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not a surprise!
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the instructor was trying to win the favor of the MILF. I'm sure of it.
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why was this video uploaded on the interwebs? what sick person wants to watch someone get murdered tragically killed?
There are a lot if sick people hence why sites like Best Gore and LiveLeek are so popular. Beheading vids are all the rage.
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why was this video uploaded on the interwebs? what sick person wants to watch someone get murdered tragically killed?
For teh lulz. ;D
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There are a lot if sick people hence why sites like Best Gore and LiveLeek are so popular. Beheading vids are all the rage.
I don't mind videos being there. Like TV don't watch if you don't like. Funny thing is when mainstream media run videos then have "debates" on whether them discussing videos is publicising videos and giving air to terrorists.
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I've seen grown women unable to handle the recoil of firearms.
WTF is that range thinking letting a 9 year old shoot a fully auto uzi.
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Gimme one shot!! alright, full auto!
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Funny , my dad didnt even let me use his power tools to cut wood when i was younger he would give me the old hand saw until i was 17yrs old when i went out and bought my own circular saw , he said your saw your fingers now :-\
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Good job, parents! :D Another little kids life destroyed!
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I heard next week they're going to put her in a nitro burning dragster. Kids going to get her own reality show.
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Ban 9 year olds.
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why was this video uploaded on the interwebs? what sick person wants to watch someone get murdered tragically killed?
So you can see the real consequences of what happens when things are done wrong and when things go wrong. Similar reason why you
should watch a beheading. To know what your enemy is capable of and that they must be defeated.
It's different when you are talking about women and children but as a man never close your eyes to reality... about what kind of world we
really live in.
“There were young knights among them who had never been present at a stricken field. Some could not look upon it and some could not speak. They held themselves apart from the others who were cutting down the prisoners at My Lord’s orders, for the prisoners were a body too numerous to be guarded by those of us who were left.
“Then Jean de Rye, an aged knight of Burgundy who had been sore wounded in the battle, rode up to the group of young knights and said: ‘Are ye maidens with your downcast eyes? Look well upon it. See all of it. Close your eyes to nothing. For a battle is fought to be won, and it is this that happens if you lose.’”
—from a Medieval Chronicle by Froissart, 14th Century
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Wow, excellent :)
Look well upon it. See all of it. Close your eyes to nothing. For a battle is fought to be won, and it is this that happens if you lose.
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I heard next week they're going to put her in a nitro burning dragster. Kids going to get her own reality show.
;D LOL. Perhaps get her a job working on an oil rig after a stint at driving a top fuel car.
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Ban 9 year olds.
Maddox approved.
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Close the range, sue the place and put the parents in jail. Complete fuckin idiots. I hunt and carry and believe in teaching gun use and safety to my kids but this was like giving a new 15yr old driver a limbo.
My kids start at the range firing single shot high powered air rifles at 50yrds when they are about 10yrs old to learn safety, holds and other important lessons. At 12 they graduate to .22lr and squirrel hunting. 15yrs we move to shotguns for pheasant hunting and move to .22lr handgun training.
Once they have mastered safety handling and cleaning detail I will let them try some of my other calibers... mostly just to get a sense of respect for the power these little machines can put out.
We go practice maybe 4x a year otherwise all is in a large safe away from curious hands.
I'm not going to say if I have pre-ban full auto's but I can assure you there is no reason in hell my kids need to learn how to shoot one. If they want to that bad they can join the USMC like I did.
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Close the range, sue the place and put the parents in jail. Complete fuckin idiots. I hunt and carry and believe in teaching gun use and safety to my kids but this was like giving a new 15yr old driver a limbo.
My kids start at the range firing single shot high powered air rifles at 50yrds when they are about 10yrs old to learn safety, holds and other important lessons. At 12 they graduate to .22lr and squirrel hunting. 15yrs we move to shotguns for pheasant hunting and move to .22lr handgun training.
Once they have mastered safety handling and cleaning detail I will let them try some of my other calibers... mostly just to get a sense of respect for the power these little machines can put out.
We go practice maybe 4x a year otherwise all is in a large safe away from curious hands.
I'm not going to say if I have pre-ban full auto's but I can assure you there is no reason in hell my kids need to learn how to shoot one. If they want to that bad they can join the USMC like I did.
What rules did the range break? The reason they allowed a 9 year old to shoot is because the minimum age is 8. If you want to change the age limit that's
a fair point. If someone hurts themselves in the gym by improperly using the equipment is it the gym owners fault?
And the question is not what reason does a kid need to shoot an Uzi. What reason is there for someone to drive a Lambo or Ferrari? The question is, is it safe for a 9 year old, or anyone really, without prior experience to start blasting away with a firearm like an Uzi. I don't think it is and the little girl should not have been firing that gun.
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What rules did the range break? The reason they allowed a 9 year old to shoot is because the minimum age is 8. If you want to change the age limit that's
a fair point. If someone hurts themselves in the gym by improperly using the equipment is it the gym owners fault?
And the question is not what reason does a kid need to shoot an Uzi. What reason is there for someone to drive a Lambo or Ferrari? The question is, is it safe for a 9 year old, or anyone really, without prior experience to start blasting away with a firearm like an Uzi. I don't think it is and the little girl should not have been firing that gun.
The rule of common sense. The rule that anyone with an IQ over 37 would know instinctively; giving a nine year old girl a machine gun will not end well. Close the range. Jail the parents.
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What the fuck is a 9 year old girl doing with an "Uzi"? Killing someone? What else can happen?
That girl will be dramatized for life. Parents should go to jail and then do seminars why 9 year old children should not shoot Uzis or any kind of firearms.
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Maybe she just watched Jamie Lee Curtis in Arnolds movie True Lies and thought that is how you're suppose to shoot
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Maybe she just watched Jamie Lee Curtis in Arnolds movie True Lies and thought that is how you're suppose to shoot
LOL. Nice... As gun bounces down the stairs and kills everyone.
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It was mostly just done so some redneck could try to make his child look tough and troll the liberals. Epic literal backfire.
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The rule of common sense. The rule that anyone with an IQ over 37 would know instinctively; giving a nine year old girl a machine gun will not end well. Close the range. Jail the parents.
Exactly.
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The rule of common sense. The rule that anyone with an IQ over 37 would know instinctively; giving a nine year old girl a machine gun will not end well. Close the range. Jail the parents.
Legality and common sense are not necessarily the same. Often they are mutually exclusive. The argument was whether the range should be sued.
Whether they violated the rules of common sense is not the same as whether or not they violated the rules of the range and the laws of the State. If you want the rules and laws changed that is a fair point. But it applies only AFTER you change the rules or laws. It cannot be enforced retroactively.
No rules or laws have been broken.
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No rules were broken fine still jail the parents. Imagine their answer to the judges one question - Why did you pay to have your 9yr old fire an automatic weapon?
Possible fucked up dumb ass answers??
- uh cause we though it would be funny
- because she wanted to and we let her make decisions when it comes to firearms
-we needed to judge her stance and shooting technique
-the instructor said he only respects 9yr olds who can fire automatic weapons
- we thought it'd be funny to see the sheer terror on her face as she loses control and gets someone's brain matter all over herself
-we go duck hinting your honor and she can't handle a shotgun so we figured she'd have a good chance getting a duck with the spray and pray method of an automatic weapon.
-we are planning on moving to Ukraine, Sudan or even Israel so we wanted to make sure she passes basic rebel boot camp basics
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I'm all for the 2nd Amendment, but a good rule of thumb would be to not hand a kid a gun that's almost as big as they are.
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No rules were broken fine still jail the parents. Imagine their answer to the judges one question - Why did you pay to have your 9yr old fire an automatic weapon?
Possible fucked up dumb ass answers??
- uh cause we though it would be funny
- because she wanted to and we let her make decisions when it comes to firearms
-we needed to judge her stance and shooting technique
-the instructor said he only respects 9yr olds who can fire automatic weapons
- we thought it'd be funny to see the sheer terror on her face as she loses control and gets someone's brain matter all over herself
-we go duck hinting your honor and she can't handle a shotgun so we figured she'd have a good chance getting a duck with the spray and pray method of an automatic weapon.
-we are planning on moving to Ukraine, Sudan or even Israel so we wanted to make sure she passes basic rebel boot camp basics
In this country you have to break a law to go to jail.
You think the parents are happy about this? You think it's a joke? Their 9 year old just killed a man. Their daughter will forever be scarred for this and it's will loom over her life time. You don't think the parents are traumatize because of this?
A horrible acccident took place and you just want your pound of flesh and where it comes from is secondary.
If anything the instructor should have been more circumspect in who he allows to shoot guns and the type of guns shot no matter what the age. You don't start out a 9 year old on an automatic firearm designed to be used by train military or LE. The instructor is supposed to be the expert. Not the parents or the kid.
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What the fuck is a 9 year old girl doing with an "Uzi"? Killing someone? What else can happen?
That girl will be dramatized for life. Parents should go to jail and then do seminars why 9 year old children should not shoot Uzis or any kind of firearms.
the fact it was an uzi doesnt mean shit, it is that it was a FULLY AUTOMATIC uzi. A semi automatic uzi would actually be much easier for a kid to shoot as opposed to a hand gun b/c its a a 9mm sub machine gun styled pistol basically and had much less recoil.
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In this country you have to break a law to go to jail.
You think the parents are happy about this? You think it's a joke? Their 9 year old just killed a man. Their daughter will forever be scarred for this and it's will loom over her life time. You don't think the parents are traumatize because of this?
A horrible acccident took place and you just want your pound of flesh and where it comes from is secondary.
If anything the instructor should have been more circumspect in who he allows to shoot guns and the type of guns shot no matter what the age. You don't start out a 9 year old on an automatic firearm designed to be used by train military or LE. The instructor is supposed to be the expert. Not the parents or the kid.
This is pretty much accurate.
It was the responsibility of the instructor to do the right thing and he didnt.
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No. As a parent you have ultimate and final decision responsibility over your kids safety no matter what someone says or suggest you let them do.
Yes the instructor was wrong, but lack of common sense on the parents part allowed for the instructor to talk them not letting this happen.
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No. As a parent you have ultimate and final decision responsibility over your kids safety no matter what someone says or suggest you let them do.
Yes the instructor was wrong, but lack of common sense on the parents part allowed for the instructor to talk them not letting this happen.
I am not excusing the parents but a single person or even a couple cannot be experts at everything. Thus we depend on others who we believe have more education/skill/experience etc in areas where we lack.
You dont suppose a parent should go against doctors orders b/c they feel its not the right call.
The parents were stupid for allowing it to happen but the instructor as the "expert" in the situation should have stepped up and said this is fucking retarded.
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No. As a parent you have ultimate and final decision responsibility over your kids safety no matter what someone says or suggest you let them do.
Yes the instructor was wrong, but lack of common sense on the parents part allowed for the instructor to talk them not letting this happen.
No. You are wrong. If you hire a driving instructor who is incompetent or irresponsible then it is the instructor's fault not the parents. But you are conflating separate issues. Most would agree that the parents should have been more aware of the risks involved. Maybe they were just clueless about guns and only know by what they see on TV. They thought, and their daughter may have as well, it would be neat and cool to fire a fully automatic weapon like they do on TV having no idea what is involved in handling the firearm. It was incumbent upon the instructor to educate them and he should not have allowed it.
But the issue I was addressing was who should be punished. Both the range and the parents broke no laws. It was obviously an accident and no criminal intent on the part of the little girl. The instructor is dead.
But people just want to sue someone. Put someone in jail. I'm sure if the girl shot herself in the foot or wounded or killed someone else the instructor would be looking at a law suit.
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I see your point but...I still hold parents ultimately responsible. Ignorance is not an acceptable excuse to me. But again I do see your point and respect your opinion. As far as punishment... man I don't know. Maybe the range will get fined? I hope the parents don't have the balls and try to sue that would just be absurd.
What's ultimately sad is someone lost their life and this kid will need therapy for awhile and the parent will have to live with whatever psychological damage this has cause their kid.
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I see your point but...I still hold parents ultimately responsible. Ignorance is not an acceptable excuse to me. But again I do see your point and respect your opinion. As far as punishment... man I don't know. Maybe the range will get fined? I hope the parents don't have the balls and try to sue that would just be absurd.
What's ultimately sad is someone lost their life and this kid will need therapy for awhile and the parent will have to live with whatever psychological damage this has cause their kid.
Sure parents are responsible for their children's safety. But that only goes so far. They only have so much control. When they hire a baby sitter, send them to school and put them in the hands of a teacher, send them to a doctor..., there is implicit trust. They trust their doctor will be competent and responsible and have the certifications and educational bonafides to back it up. If they screw up then you can take legal action.
You can argue that the parents were irresponsible or at best use poor judgement. But I don't think it merits legal action. The instructor was presumably the expert and should have screened this client better. I mean, if I sent my daughter to a martial arts school I don't expect her to do live knife training on her first day.
A horrible, horrible thing happen and we want to see someone pay. But the only one that I think was legally responsible is dead.
That nine year old girl should not have been handling a fully automatic rifle. The instructor should have known better. It should have been obvious by how she handled the rifle when it was on single shot mode. If the instructor did not have her shoot the firearm in single shot mode first but started her out on full auto then he was even more incompetent and should never have been be an instructor.
Of course, I am in no way imply that he deserved to be shot in the head. I would like to know more about this instructor's background and experience.
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So she's got that hanging over her the rest of her life. Awesome.
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This situation is sad but lets think about the real problem here. If someone had shown her how to properly fire an Uzi when she was 8, this wouldn't have happened.
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So the 9 year old girls dumbfuck parents allow her to shoot an Uzi? I find it HILARIOUS how that other boy a few months ago that accidentally shot and killed himself got the gun instructor charged with involuntary manslaughter BUT when a little kid kills their instructor she AND her parents are off the hook and it's seen as an "accident"......Fucking bullshit and the reason why I hate the system