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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2008, 01:41:19 PM »
WTF?

Carbon dating is only reliable to 44K years...how do you get millions of years?  Not every Christian sect says that humans have only been here 6K years.

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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2008, 01:41:36 PM »
Religion shouldnt play a part in a modern any society.

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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2008, 01:45:10 PM »
Religion shouldnt play a part in a modern society.

I would say organized religion should not play a part in politics.
Spirituality will always play a part in peoples' lifes.

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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2008, 01:46:51 PM »

the disciples faced death in a storm, yet Jesus said to the waves "be calm" and they were still

THIS IS POWERFUL!!!

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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2008, 01:49:24 PM »
the problem with "christianity" is that people focus on the stupid traditions and details instead of living their life according to what the founder of their religion, Jesus taught, which is loving your neighbor, helping the poor and infirmed, forgiveness, etc. instead of just using religion as a means of passing judgement on other people, people are hypocrites in the end.

You are exactly right, that it is exactly the problem with Christianity today.  We have gone away from what Jesus taught us.  

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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2008, 01:51:22 PM »
I would say organized religion should not play a part in politics.
Spirituality will always play a part in peoples' lifes.

Agreed.

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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2008, 02:02:45 PM »
Carbon dating is only reliable to 44K years...how do you get millions of years?  Not every Christian sect says that humans have only been here 6K years.

The christians who dont believe the world is 6000 years old are going to hell. For they questioned the bible which is the infallable, unchanging word of God.

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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2008, 02:03:48 PM »
The christians who dont believe the world is 6000 years old are going to hell. For they questioned the bible which is the infallable, unchanging word of God.
Where does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old?
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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2008, 02:07:43 PM »
Where does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old?

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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2008, 02:12:08 PM »
Where does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old?

There are five (and only five) Biblical steps necessary to determine the age of the universe.

1.    Genesis 5. These genealogies cover 10 generations, from Adam to Noah, and reveals that Noah died when the earth was 2006 years old.  Click here to view a table created from Genesis 5.

2.    Gen. 11:10-32. These genealogies cover 9 generations, from Shem (the son of Noah) to the death of Terah (Abraham’s dad). This genealogy will give you the age of the earth at the death of Terah, who is the father of Abraham, as 2081. It is very interesting to note that Terah died the very year Abraham received the promise of God in Genesis 12:1-4. It is very true that we will not receive any of the promises of God until we obey the conditions of those promises. God had told Abraham to depart from: (1) his country, (2) his kindred, and (3) his father’s house.  Abraham did not receive any of the promises of God until he obeyed completely.  We, like Abraham, will receive none of the promises of God until we obey completely.  Click here to view a table created from Genesis 11:10-32.

It is interesting to note that Abraham was born the same year Noah died, when the world was 2006 years old. According to Genesis 12:4, Abraham was 75 years old when he received the promises of God. Add 2006 to 75 and we discover the world was 2081 years old when the promise was given to Abraham concerning the coming Saviour and the blessings of God upon the nation of Israel.

3.    Galatians 3:16,17 declares, "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect." Abraham received the promise when the world was 2081 years old. Now, add the 430 years spoken of in Galatians 3:16,17 to 2081, and we discover the world was 2511 years old when the law (the Ten Commandments) was given.

Also read Exodus 12:40,41. "Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt."

The sojourning of the children of Israel (in Canaan: during the lifetime of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: in Egypt (see Exodus 6:16-20) during the life of Levi, Kohath, Amram, and Moses.

4.    I Kings 6:1. This verse will bring us up to the fourth year of Solomon's reign.

I Kings 6:1 states, "And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD."

Now we can add another 480 years to 2511 and we get find it is 2991 years from creation to the fourth year of Solomon’s reign.

5.    Using any secular history, look up the date when Solomon reigned. This will be in the area of 1015-975 b. c.  If you like, you can go through the books of I and II Kings and prove that Israel went into bondage to the Assyrians in 722 B. C. and Judah went into bondage to Babylon in 606 B. C.

Because we know from secular history that Solomon reigned about 1,000 years before Christ, we can add 1,000 years to 2,991 (the age of the earth when Solomon began to reign) and you get 3991 (the approximate age of the earth when Christ was born.)

I think everybody knows it is approximately 2000 years the time of Christ until now. So add 2000 years to 3991 and you get 5991. That is pretty close to 6,000 years.

It is very clear, is it not, that the Bible proves the age of the universe to be approximately 6,000 years old
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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2008, 02:12:52 PM »
Where does the bible say that the earth is 6000 years old?

One of your gurus figured that one out in the 17th century and it became 'fact'. ::)
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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2008, 02:13:38 PM »
I would say organized religion should not play a part in politics.
Spirituality will always play a part in peoples' lifes.

Whatever the fuck that means.... ::)
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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2008, 02:13:45 PM »
They seem to be legion.

Discuss...

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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2008, 02:13:54 PM »
Yes, god is quite well known in Texas. ::)

Texas is one of the worst.

Filled with Baptists who get drunk and beat their wives on the weekends...it's a great state!

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« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2008, 02:16:36 PM »
One of your gurus figured that one out in the 17th century and it became 'fact'. ::)

Fact to who?  Not me.  I don't believe that the world is only 6,000 years old but I also don't believe that it is 40 million either.  We have proof that it isn't only 6,000 but nothing that proves it is more than roughly 44,000 years old because carbon dating is only accurate to roughly 44,000 years. 

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« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2008, 02:16:36 PM »
There are five (and only five) Biblical steps necessary to determine the age of the universe.

1.    Genesis 5. These genealogies cover 10 generations, from Adam to Noah, and reveals that Noah died when the earth was 2006 years old.  Click here to view a table created from Genesis 5.

2.    Gen. 11:10-32. These genealogies cover 9 generations, from Shem (the son of Noah) to the death of Terah (Abraham’s dad). This genealogy will give you the age of the earth at the death of Terah, who is the father of Abraham, as 2081. It is very interesting to note that Terah died the very year Abraham received the promise of God in Genesis 12:1-4. It is very true that we will not receive any of the promises of God until we obey the conditions of those promises. God had told Abraham to depart from: (1) his country, (2) his kindred, and (3) his father’s house.  Abraham did not receive any of the promises of God until he obeyed completely.  We, like Abraham, will receive none of the promises of God until we obey completely.  Click here to view a table created from Genesis 11:10-32.

It is interesting to note that Abraham was born the same year Noah died, when the world was 2006 years old. According to Genesis 12:4, Abraham was 75 years old when he received the promises of God. Add 2006 to 75 and we discover the world was 2081 years old when the promise was given to Abraham concerning the coming Saviour and the blessings of God upon the nation of Israel.

3.    Galatians 3:16,17 declares, "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect." Abraham received the promise when the world was 2081 years old. Now, add the 430 years spoken of in Galatians 3:16,17 to 2081, and we discover the world was 2511 years old when the law (the Ten Commandments) was given.

Also read Exodus 12:40,41. "Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt."

The sojourning of the children of Israel (in Canaan: during the lifetime of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: in Egypt (see Exodus 6:16-20) during the life of Levi, Kohath, Amram, and Moses.

4.    I Kings 6:1. This verse will bring us up to the fourth year of Solomon's reign.

I Kings 6:1 states, "And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD."

Now we can add another 480 years to 2511 and we get find it is 2991 years from creation to the fourth year of Solomon’s reign.

5.    Using any secular history, look up the date when Solomon reigned. This will be in the area of 1015-975 b. c.  If you like, you can go through the books of I and II Kings and prove that Israel went into bondage to the Assyrians in 722 B. C. and Judah went into bondage to Babylon in 606 B. C.

Because we know from secular history that Solomon reigned about 1,000 years before Christ, we can add 1,000 years to 2,991 (the age of the earth when Solomon began to reign) and you get 3991 (the approximate age of the earth when Christ was born.)

I think everybody knows it is approximately 2000 years the time of Christ until now. So add 2000 years to 3991 and you get 5991. That is pretty close to 6,000 years.

It is very clear, is it not, that the Bible proves the age of the universe to be approximately 6,000 years old
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This looks like a case for the bible indicating that life is about 6000 years old.  But did I miss the part about where it states the age of the earth or universe?
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Re: Why do we have so many stupid and delusional Christians on getbig?
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2008, 02:17:21 PM »
Religion shouldnt play a part in a modern society.

So, after viewing our current modern society, you believe man has enough innate good will instilled inside him to avoid anarchy?
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« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2008, 02:17:43 PM »
One of your gurus figured that one out in the 17th century and it became 'fact'. ::)
Does this mean you are speaking to me again? :D
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« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2008, 02:18:44 PM »
Fact to who?  Not me.  I don't believe that the world is only 6,000 years old but I also don't believe that it is 40 million either.  We have proof that it isn't only 6,000 but nothing that proves it is more than roughly 44,000 years old because carbon dating is only accurate to roughly 44,000 years. 

Do you think that carbon dating is the only dating method available? The earth is 4.5 billion years old. That is a scientific fact. Welcome to modernity.
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« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2008, 02:20:11 PM »
ever notice how we get thread after thread about how bad Christianity is. i wish you atheists would just admit your biggest fear in life is the fact that there may be a god. i know personally that used to be my case when i was an atheist.

if you have a fear that there may be a God...u were not an athiest. agknowledgement of a higher power in any way shape or form would put you as agnostic at best...

the beauty of athiesm is that there is NO doubt in the mind......you are without fear or guilt of a higher power



i do not fear green goblins under my bed, or monsters in my closet because they dont exist in reality. only children, people with sub par IQ's, and the insane would have that belief. athiest feel the same way about "God"

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« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2008, 02:20:17 PM »
Whatever the fuck that means.... ::)

It means that people realize there is more to the world than what the ego clings to.
It's a revelation to the heart, not the mind.

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« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2008, 02:20:32 PM »
Does this mean you are speaking to me again? :D

An unintended consequence of you posting in this thread; I can assure you, it brought me no pleasure and in any event 'your' implied Christendom in general.
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« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2008, 02:22:06 PM »
Do you think that carbon dating is the only dating method available? The earth is 4.5 billion years old. That is a scientific fact. Welcome to modernity.

fact and theory are different.  4.5 billion is theory.  What other aging method do they have that is accurate to 4.5 billion years?

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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2008, 02:23:40 PM »
An unintended consequence of you posting in this thread; I can assure you, it brought me no pleasure and in any event 'your' implied Christendom in general.
So, yes, then? ;D
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« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2008, 02:23:57 PM »
It means that people realize there is more to the world than what the ego clings to.
It's a revelation to the heart, not the mind.

You can dress it up anyway you want Wienerschnitzel, but there is no evidence that anything other than matter and energy exist; the 'heart' is merely a confluence of physical and biochemical mechanisms and ceases to exist when these functions grind to a halt. Even in your dressed up form, it is simply wishful thinking on your part.
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