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Title: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 11:25:13 AM
servery,s are showing hate crime against muslin rise 50% in USA after 9/11..will it lead to civil war in next 10 to 20 years.specially when lots of American converting to Islam every year.we Indian,s are in very difficult situation we are looked upon one of them from the majority of american people while we have nothing to do with Islam.i have feeling we will get caught in cross fire.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 11:27:46 AM
good news, as i never seen any of you attempting to separate from the rest. Maybe because you re all the same parasitic, jealous, ugly haters. Why dont you go back to the shithole you come from if the big, handsome, smart white man keeps you down?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: polychronopolous on September 14, 2012, 11:29:00 AM
servery,s are showing hate crime against muslin rise 50% in USA after 9/11..will it lead to civil war in next 10 to 20 years.specially when lots of American converting to Islam every year.we Indian,s are in very difficult situation we are looked upon one of them from the majority of american people while we have nothing to do with Islam.i have feeling we will get caught in cross fire.

Well, Rajkapoor...sometimes ya gotta crack a few eggs if you wanna make an omelette.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: _bruce_ on September 14, 2012, 11:32:38 AM
This, this breaks my heart  :'(
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: MB on September 14, 2012, 11:33:45 AM
Re: Hate crime is on rise against by Muslims.  Low budget movies are serious business.  
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2012, 11:34:23 AM
and keep your dirty paws off of our white women >:(
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
good news, as i never seen any of you attempting to separate from the rest. Maybe because you re all the same parasitic, jealous, ugly haters. Why dont you go back to the shithole you come from if the big, handsome, smart white man keeps you down?

well i have shit whole to escape when shit hit the fan.where u gonna go Mr.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Coach is Back! on September 14, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
servery,s are showing hate crime against muslin rise 50% in USA after 9/11..will it lead to civil war in next 10 to 20 years.specially when lots of American converting to Islam every year.we Indian,s are in very difficult situation we are looked upon one of them from the majority of american people while we have nothing to do with Islam.i have feeling we will get caught in cross fire.

Hate to say it...but what did you expect?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 11:37:51 AM
and keep your dirty paws off of our white women >:(

sorry bro i cant help it.its tonic for my low self esteem.they just love my color.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
Well, Rajkapoor...sometimes ya gotta crack a few eggs if you wanna make an omelette.

i think we r human...dont u...
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: tommywishbone on September 14, 2012, 11:38:57 AM
I'm planning to vandalize a camel.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: BIG ACH on September 14, 2012, 11:39:57 AM

Its only going to get worse because Arabs overseas are acting like fucktards right now!
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 11:40:30 AM
Hate to say it...but what did you expect?
i know hate is blind but we r on ur side.trust me on that.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: B_B_C on September 14, 2012, 11:42:18 AM
good news, as i never seen any of you attempting to separate from the rest. Maybe because you re all the same parasitic, jealous, ugly haters. Why dont you go back to the shithole you come from if the big, handsome, smart white man keeps you down?
and your just the man with more than enough hate already ?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tapeworm on September 14, 2012, 11:45:03 AM
i know hate is blind but we r on ur side.trust me on that.

Ben Fuckin' Kingsley, over here.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: BIG ACH on September 14, 2012, 11:45:37 AM
Ben Fuckin' Kingsley, over here.

 ;D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rami on September 14, 2012, 11:47:27 AM
who in their right mind becomes a muslim?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 11:49:08 AM
Ben Fuckin' Kingsley, over here.
sir Ben kingsley...
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 11:51:11 AM
who in their right mind becomes a muslim?
I am afraid u will convert too....too much venom in u......
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: BIG ACH on September 14, 2012, 11:52:27 AM
I've said this a million times during the "Arab Spring", and everyone jumped at me and got pissed......but I will say it again, what is happening in the Middle East right now is PROOF that Arabs DO NOT DESERVE democracy or Freedom.... these are people that need to be ruled with an IRON FIST by dictators like Mubarak!

Soooo happy I don't live in Egypt anymore.... but now I have to deal with people discriminating against me in the US because of what those Assholes are doing over there in the middle east!



Fuck it, I'm just going to change my name to Ron!  ;D  Ahmed is just not gonna fly anymore!
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bike nut on September 14, 2012, 11:55:33 AM
I've said this a million times during the "Arab Spring", and everyone jumped at me and got pissed......but I will say it again, what is happening in the Middle East right now is PROOF that Arabs DO NOT DESERVE democracy or Freedom.... these are people that need to be ruled with an IRON FIST by dictators like Mubarak!

Soooo happy I don't live in Egypt anymore.... but now I have to deal with people discriminating against me in the US because of what those Assholes are doing over there in the middle east!

Fuck it, I'm just going to change my name to Ron!  ;D  Ahmed is just not gonna fly anymore!

Grow your hair out....change your name to "Jesus Garcia".

The U.S. Government will trip over themselves trying to give you handouts.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rami on September 14, 2012, 11:56:32 AM
I am afraid u will convert too....too much venom in u......


yeah yeah, your wise big drunken spirit tool you so?

also, so we are on the same side of this issue.  that Islam = venom. you just said it.


Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: snx on September 14, 2012, 11:58:02 AM
servery,s are showing hate crime against muslin rise 50% in USA after 9/11..will it lead to civil war in next 10 to 20 years.specially when lots of American converting to Islam every year.we Indian,s are in very difficult situation we are looked upon one of them from the majority of american people while we have nothing to do with Islam.i have feeling we will get caught in cross fire.

You're not alone, my cow worshipping friend. Whites have problems too.

The FBI’s “Hate Crime Statistics” for 1999 show that 2,030 whites were arrested that year for “hate crimes” against blacks, compared to 524 blacks who were arrested and charged with a “hate crime” against whites.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, blacks make up 12.8 percent of the population — or about 35.4 million of the country’s 280 million people — so, given the arrest rate versus population percentage, the data indicates that blacks are one-and-a-half times more likely to be arrested for a “hate crime” than whites.

We're not worried about hating muslims. We're worried about being hated by black people.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 14, 2012, 11:58:56 AM
Its only going to get worse because Arabs overseas are acting like fucktards right now!

I just thank Allah that you're on our side and not theirs!!!
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:00:21 PM

yeah yeah, your wise big drunken spirit tool you so?

also, so we are on the same side of this issue.  that Islam = venom. you just said it.



i dont bash religions.i was talking about general converters behaviors before conversion.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
well i have shit whole to escape when shit hit the fan.where u gonna go Mr.
grab my rifle?

you tarts act all tough as long as nobody react, but when the big white man starts getting angry and firing back you girls cower in fear like the little rats you are. Strong when outnumbering your oponent, weak taken alone face to face.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rami on September 14, 2012, 12:04:53 PM
i dont bash religions.i was talking about general converters behaviors before conversion.

I tend to bash anything filled with lies, what is senseless and destroys peoples lives.

when will you people wake up. what's it gonna take?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:05:13 PM
grab my rifle?

you tarts act all tough as long as nobody react, but when the big white man starts getting angry and firing back you girls cower in fear like the little rats you are. Strong when outnumbering your oponent, weak taken alone face to face.

live by sword die by sword....but u wont understand.i know....
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: scottt on September 14, 2012, 12:05:47 PM
Hate crime is on the rise everywhere people are becoming more hateful.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: haider on September 14, 2012, 12:06:33 PM
Scares the shit out of me, i had a feeling this might happen. Where did you find these numbers rajkapoor?

Seriously dont feel safe in this country anymore, thanks to fucktards who dont realise that the shit they spew has real consequences for innocent muslims, which includes me and my family. And unfortunately indians and sikhs too since they look like us.

Ive never been a victim of a hate crime but I increasingly feel that theres a possibilty I could be, with the increasing intensity of political rhetoric and events overseas. It doesnt help that the media loves this shit and reports it out of proportion, which only incites more idiots to react to events... No one would give a shit if the actions of a few wouldnt be broadcast to the whole world.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:06:52 PM
I tend to bash anything filled with lies, what is senseless and destroys peoples lives.

when will you people wake up. what's it gonna take?
if u cant b part of the solution dont b part of problem...is it too much to ask..
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:07:17 PM
live by sword die by sword....but u wont understand.i know....
a rifle isnt a sword, mamud.
Wtf are you attempting to say anyway, do you even understand what you re typing?

Go back to your country if you want to feel safer.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: polychronopolous on September 14, 2012, 12:07:45 PM
live by sword die by sword....but u wont understand.i know....

You wouldn't so much as be able to squeeze a drop of piss out if you were standing next me at the urinals, I assure you of that.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bigbobs on September 14, 2012, 12:09:17 PM
more hate crime also more converts  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/post-911-islam-converts_n_935572.html

Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:10:52 PM
You wouldn't so much as be able to squeeze a drop of piss out if you were standing next me at the urinals, I assure you of that.

Vietnam...u do the math..
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 14, 2012, 12:12:26 PM
more hate crime also more converts  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/post-911-islam-converts_n_935572.html

Shut the fuck up you goddamn savage.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:12:51 PM
a rifle isnt a sword, mamud.
Wtf are you attempting to say anyway, do you even understand what you re typing?

Go back to your country if you want to feel safer.

meta form ever hear of it.......love you bro.keep at it.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: daddy8ball on September 14, 2012, 12:13:24 PM
Great Idea #1: Piss off the white man. That's worked out so well throughout recorded history.  :D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:15:50 PM
Scares the shit out of me, i had a feeling this might happen. Where did you find these numbers rajkapoor?

Seriously dont feel safe in this country anymore, thanks to fucktards who dont realise that the shit they spew has real consequences for innocent muslims, which includes me and my family. And unfortunately indians and sikhs too since they look like us.

Ive never been a victim of a hate crime but I increasingly feel that theres a possibilty I could be, with the increasing intensity of political rhetoric and events overseas. It doesnt help that the media loves this shit and reports it out of proportion, which only incites more idiots to react to events... No one would give a shit if the actions of a few wouldnt be broadcast to the whole world.

i m worried about my kids all the time.may b move back home for a while.i know the real hard core criminals always get away with things its common people like me who think they have nothing to do with anything get caught in cross fire.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rami on September 14, 2012, 12:16:27 PM
if u cant b part of the solution dont b part of problem...is it too much to ask..

Understand one thing. I'm not part of anything. I carry my own will and make my own solutions.  
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: haider on September 14, 2012, 12:17:55 PM
i m worried about my kids all the time.may b move back home for a while.i know the real hard core criminals always get away with things its common people like me who think they have nothing to do with anything get caught in cross fire.
Where did you get the hate crime numbers?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 14, 2012, 12:18:32 PM
Vietnam...u do the math..

58,282 Honorable American Service Men Killed in Action

1,100,000 North Viet Cong Exterminated
________________________ ________________________

.05

18 US Kills for Every Death
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:21:05 PM
58,282 Honorable American Service Men Killed in Action

1,100,000 North Viet Cong Exterminated
________________________ ________________________

.05



And for what.what has changed since than.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 14, 2012, 12:22:50 PM
And for what.what has changed since than.

You're changing the subject.  :D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:24:22 PM
communautarism can only survive as long as nanny states are alive and well. People of different skin colors stick together, there s no mixity, or very rare and it always end badly especially for the kids. Multiculturalism is amyth, a joke, promoted by cynical elites, journalists, industrials, politics who live at the top of the pyramid and in fact want to mix the lower and middle social classes of occident with the third worlders they import in the north to lower salaries and improve their profits. Now we re nearing a global economic collapse and people will ultimately as a last resort stick to their owns, and some basic realities will be remembered. Some things never change. It was all fun and games as long as economies were working, as long as everyone got his share of money and comfort. Now that the illusion is shattered, that too many parasitic, hateful jealous unable to contribute people see that they re not going to go thru it easily, they re getting angry and frustrated. These people are useless , but they are outnumbering useful, educated , faithful human beings. These assholes have been breeding like cockroaches for decades in the obvious attempt to replace the host that allowed them to settle in his country, thinking they would adapt, integrate, assimilate. Fact is they stuck together and re built their own countries in our countries.

All of this is cyclical, and the process of selection is as usual going on. Just read some history books. It may seem a repeat of what alrdy happened countless times in the past of mankind, but it is, different, cause mankind is heading in one direction, even if some steps look alike.

Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:24:48 PM
Where did you get the hate crime numbers?
http://www.dearbornfreepress.com/2012/01/27/hate-crimes-fbi-stats-on-muslims-jews-gays-hispanics/
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tyr on September 14, 2012, 12:25:21 PM
I've said this a million times during the "Arab Spring", and everyone jumped at me and got pissed......but I will say it again, what is happening in the Middle East right now is PROOF that Arabs DO NOT DESERVE democracy or Freedom.... these are people that need to be ruled with an IRON FIST by dictators like Mubarak!

Soooo happy I don't live in Egypt anymore.... but now I have to deal with people discriminating against me in the US because of what those Assholes are doing over there in the middle east!



Fuck it, I'm just going to change my name to Ron!  ;D  Ahmed is just not gonna fly anymore!

Its a damn shame that narrow minded people discriminate against people like you just because of your background/skin color..whatever. The fact that you engage in critical thinking,educated, and no longer contrained by religious dogma makes you an asset to the US. Thats what we need -  not braindead zealots hobbled by religion.  

Besides more people in the US and Canada are converting away from Islam since they now have the freedom to think for themselves. The new generations are moving away from religion...christianity being the biggest loser. Islam is losing its followers at a slower rate mostly due to the fear of reprisals. Thats why tmost mosques are encouraging their followers to have more kids...to make up for future losses. Thats why they try to get their followers to attend special religious schools rather than attend diverse public schools where their children may actually start to think for themselves. Christians and muslims are struggling to point out that people are converting to their brand of nonsense when in reality more people are moving away from them. I love these silly articles that both camps post crowing of someone who was magically transformed by their religion. I gotta applaud the hindus and buddhists that stay away from this hilarious attempts at oneupmanship.

I've met a number of ex muslims who moved to the west so they can cut their ties completely and live free.  Its slow but its happening. Most kids no longer want to spend time on their knees  five times a day praying to some religious relic of the past.

Evolution is slow but it's advancing. In the meantime buckle up...its going to be a rough ride.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:25:42 PM
And for what.what has changed since than.
well why did you move to the white man s countries then, if you cant stand white people? You are precisely the kind of people we re sick off. Always complaining, asking us to do more and more for your sorry colored ass when you re not even able to contribute shit to the people that welcomed you.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Schmoff on September 14, 2012, 12:26:46 PM
servery,s are showing hate crime against muslin rise 50% in USA after 9/11..will it lead to civil war in next 10 to 20 years.specially when lots of American converting to Islam every year.we Indian,s are in very difficult situation we are looked upon one of them from the majority of american people while we have nothing to do with Islam.i have feeling we will get caught in cross fire.

please kill yourself
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bigbobs on September 14, 2012, 12:28:35 PM
and keep your dirty paws off of our white women >:(

too late ;)

Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
too late ;)



you're an exception, coz you're handsome and built (no homo)
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rami on September 14, 2012, 12:31:48 PM
You're changing the subject.  :D

doesn't he now,

I guess he just don't understand us.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bigbobs on September 14, 2012, 12:32:25 PM
you're an exception, coz you're handsome and built (no homo)

*hug* 

(no homo)
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
communautarism can only survive as long as nanny states are alive and well. People of different skin colors stick together, there s no mixity, or very rare and it always end badly especially for the kids. Multiculturalism is amyth, a joke, promoted by cynical elites, journalists, industrials, politics who live at the top of the pyramid and in fact want to mix the lower and middle social classes of occident with the third worlders they import in the north to lower salaries and improve their profits. Now we re nearing a global economic collapse and people will ultimately as a last resort stick to their owns, and some basic realities will be remembered. Some things never change. It was all fun and games as long as economies were working, as long as everyone got his share of money and comfort. Now that the illusion is shattered, that too many parasitic, hateful jealous unable to contribute people see that they re not going to go thru it easily, they re getting angry and frustrated. These people are useless , but they are outnumbering useful, educated , faithful human beings. These assholes have been breeding like cockroaches for decades in the obvious attempt to replace the host that allowed them to settle in his country, thinking they would adapt, integrate, assimilate. Fact is they stuck together and re built their own countries in our countries.

All of this is cyclical, and the process of selection is as usual going on. Just read some history books. It may seem a repeat of what alrdy happened countless times in the past of mankind, but it is, different, cause mankind is heading in one direction, even if some steps look alike.


you r right about history but why cant we use those experiences to make life better for generations to come.why we have to repeat those mistakes again will there b any end to it in near or far future.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 14, 2012, 12:34:45 PM
I'm off to the movies, see you fine gentlemen a little bit later!

Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tyr on September 14, 2012, 12:34:49 PM
too late ;)




Thats ok. Every culture has its trash. You're welcome to ours.  :D

Besides with the amount of muslim girls who want to date a blue eyed blond haired caucasian, european or  black nowadays its only fair for  the the scales be balanced somewhat.

Muslim girls (hindus and orientals to be completely fair)want to experience a normal size penis rather than the below average dicks south east asians are cursed with.  No wonder Asian men are worried and trying to hold their women back. Their women are trading up to bigger and better things.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:36:07 PM
you r right about history but why cant we use those experiences to make life better for generations to come.why we have to repeat those mistakes again will there b any end to it in near or far future.
wawawah... you want our countries cause you werent able to build them due to your jealousy, your hartred toward truth and the white man. You want to replace us, not live with us, i m sick of your lies. Ill make life better for the white generations to come by buying more ammo to reduce the number of people like you once given the chance, filthy duplicit scum. You ll always want to ruin what you cant build, you ll always want to steal what you cant work to obtain.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Schmoff on September 14, 2012, 12:36:36 PM

Thats ok. Every culture has its trash. You're welcome to ours.  :D

 ;D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: dj181 on September 14, 2012, 12:38:08 PM
*hug* 

(no homo)

 ;D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tyr on September 14, 2012, 12:43:42 PM
communautarism can only survive as long as nanny states are alive and well. People of different skin colors stick together, there s no mixity, or very rare and it always end badly especially for the kids. Multiculturalism is amyth, a joke, promoted by cynical elites, journalists, industrials, politics who live at the top of the pyramid and in fact want to mix the lower and middle social classes of occident with the third worlders they import in the north to lower salaries and improve their profits. Now we re nearing a global economic collapse and people will ultimately as a last resort stick to their owns, and some basic realities will be remembered. Some things never change. It was all fun and games as long as economies were working, as long as everyone got his share of money and comfort. Now that the illusion is shattered, that too many parasitic, hateful jealous unable to contribute people see that they re not going to go thru it easily, they re getting angry and frustrated. These people are useless , but they are outnumbering useful, educated , faithful human beings. These assholes have been breeding like cockroaches for decades in the obvious attempt to replace the host that allowed them to settle in his country, thinking they would adapt, integrate, assimilate. Fact is they stuck together and re built their own countries in our countries.

All of this is cyclical, and the process of selection is as usual going on. Just read some history books. It may seem a repeat of what alrdy happened countless times in the past of mankind, but it is, different, cause mankind is heading in one direction, even if some steps look alike.



Multiculturalism is not a joke. Its an asset if deployed properly. There should be only one culture in the world - human culture. Building fences and pretending to be different is what gets this crap started. Remove the religion cancer from the culture equation and you'll see a markedly better world.

 Bringing in the wrong culture that refuses to assimilate with others and cling to their antiquated beliefs is what needs to be stopped.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:43:48 PM
well why did you move to the white man s countries then, if you cant stand white people? You are precisely the kind of people we re sick off. Always complaining, asking us to do more and more for your sorry colored ass when you re not even able to contribute shit to the people that welcomed you.
oh i m contributing i cant post my tax return here.it will be devastating to leave all that business i worked hard for.it was ok to take humiliation from few not so nice people and keep chasing the dream but kids are different they born here they cant take the humiliation.they r like u pay back cash.that scares me.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Game Time on September 14, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
I'm off to the movies, see you fine gentlemen a little bit later!



LOL go to 3:35 Tattoo Timmy is in the movie haha
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rami on September 14, 2012, 12:47:14 PM
some people still don't understand the white man, cause enough shit and you're going down, simple as that.  

but to be nice, let's instead isolate the middle east, pull out all military and diplomatic presence, for get they exist, return in 10 years to see what's left.



Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:47:27 PM
oh i m contributing i cant post my tax return here.it will be devastating to leave all that business i worked hard for.it was ok to take humiliation from few not so nice people and keep chasing the dream but kids are different they born here they cant take the humiliation.they r like u pay back cash.that scares me.
just because you work here and pay taxes doesnt mean you belong to the white man's world. You and your offsprings are still fucking scum.
What about you convert to christianism, then we ll talk.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:49:42 PM
wawawah... you want our countries cause you werent able to build them due to your jealousy, your hartred toward truth and the white man. You want to replace us, not live with us, i m sick of your lies. Ill make life better for the white generations to come by buying more ammo to reduce the number of people like you once given the chance, filthy duplicit scum. You ll always want to ruin what you cant build, you ll always want to steal what you cant work to obtain.
self righteous.my opinion would not make a dent....
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:51:09 PM
Multiculturalism is not a joke. Its an asset if deployed properly. There should be only one culture in the world - human culture. Building fences and pretending to be different is what gets this crap started. Remove the religion cancer from the culture equation and you'll see a markedly better world.

 Bringing in the wrong culture that refuses to assimilate with others and cling to their antiquated beliefs is what needs to be stopped.
it s a war of faiths. Some beliefs systems are wrong and endangering mankind as a whole while others are good, safe. All false religions are disaperaing and there will be a last fight between the two remaining ones; christianism and islam. The cancer isnt religion, it s false religions. God's words are life itself.
You should be ashamed of what you ve become, if you re white. Those you want to "make friend" with -cause you re scared of them- have for only goal to fuck you in the ass.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:52:11 PM
self righteous.my opinion would not make a dent....
Congrats, you finally understood!

now gently fuck off back to your shithole and try to build a better world there first before attemtpting to teach us lessons about how to rule our own countries.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:52:29 PM
just because you work here and pay taxes doesnt mean you belong to the white man's world. You and your offsprings are still fucking scum.
What about you convert to christianism, then we ll talk.

see this is what i am talking about.you making it easy to explain my fear.thanks
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:55:37 PM
see this is what i am talking about.you making it easy to explain my fear.thanks
No problem, my pleasure. I m proud of exposing you for the duplicit perverted self victimizing asshole you are. You are with these people who want to erase us from the world's surface. Everything would be just fine if all of you were living in our countries, in our infrastructures, in our comfort...but WITHOUT US, right? Too bad some people understood the filthy game you re playing.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 12:55:59 PM
Congrats, you finally understood!

now gently fuck off back to your shithole and try to build a better world there first before attemtpting to teach us lessons about how to rule our own countries.

u r asset to what ever religion u follow.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 14, 2012, 12:57:27 PM
u r asset to what ever religion u follow.
I just dont follow it, I protect, defend it, and I see thru your bullshits. You consider us as animals and dont want to live with us. You pretend to, but in fact you dont want to. You just want to erase/replace us and live with your owns here. You only like us when we give you everything without asking anything in return.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Schmoff on September 14, 2012, 12:57:39 PM
see this is what i am talking about.you making it easy to explain my fear.thanks

who the fuck are you?

why do you come here, a bodybuilding board, to complain your fucking twisted thoughts on your fucking religion?

and you only have 19 posts under your name?

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Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bigbobs on September 14, 2012, 12:59:33 PM

Thats ok. Every culture has its trash. You're welcome to ours.  :D

Besides with the amount of muslim girls who want to date a blue eyed blond haired caucasian or European nowadays its only fair for  the the scales be balanced somewhat.

 Even afro americans are getting  love since muslim girls (hindus and orientals to be completely fair) they want to experience a normal size penis rather than the below average dicks south east asians are cursed with.  No wonder Asian men are worried and trying to hold their women back. Their women are trading up to bigger and better things.

lol @ three-times edit that I noticed, possibly more.  It's not that serious ;)

Also lots of cacucasian convert Muslims for girls to chose from, if that's their preference, as well as African American.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 01:01:02 PM
who the fuck are you?

why do you come here, a bodybuilding board, to complain your fucking twisted thoughts on your fucking religion?

and you only have 19 posts under your name?


i am an x bodybuilder still train though will talk about it in later posts.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bike nut on September 14, 2012, 01:01:28 PM
too late ;)



Do people call you "Big" as some type of cruel or mocking joke?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tyr on September 14, 2012, 01:18:51 PM
lol @ three-times edit that I noticed, possibly more.  It's not that serious ;)

Also lots of cacucasian convert Muslims for girls to chose from, if that's their preference, as well as African American.

Yup. A couple of people pM'd me and pointed out stuff i should have included initially hence the edits. I think its done now. :)

I dont care about conversions unless they are forcible conversions.  Enough Indians have told me how muslim guys get hindi or sikh girls pregnant to facilitate conversion. Naturally the girls family retaliate and then you have honor killings and the like taking place.

I laugh when I read these pathetic articles writeups like the one you posted. Why is a conversion newsworthy?.....unless its to promote a religion. Marketing 101...gain converts to your brand by blowing things out of proportion

Same reason why christians posted articles on how many converts they had after the tsunami in Asia. What they failed to mention was the amounts of money doled out to those converts who had lost everything. Marketing.




Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bigbobs on September 14, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
Yup. A couple of people pM'd me and pointed out stuff i should have included initially hence the edits. I think its done now. :)

lol, so a "couple" of others PM'd you what to reply to me so you edited....never knew there were so many behind-the-scenes PM's to a simple joke-exchange between us, guess they must take this pretty seriously...or you just made that up, I believe the latter ;)


I dont care about conversions unless they are forcible conversions.  Enough Indians have told me how muslim guys get hindi or sikh girls pregnant to facilitate conversion. Naturally the girls family retaliate and then you have honor killings and the like taking place.

I laugh when I read these pathetic articles writeups like the one you posted. Why is a conversion newsworthy?.....unless its to promote a religion. Marketing 101...gain converts to your brand by blowing things out of proportion

Same reason why christians posted articles on how many converts they had after the tsunami in Asia. What they failed to mention was the amounts of money doled out to those converts who had lost everything. Marketing.

Never knew huffingtonpost was into Marketing for Muslims lol, as well as CNN and other news srouces that have had similar articles...  ::)
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tyr on September 14, 2012, 01:31:59 PM
lol, so a "couple" of others PM'd you what to reply to me so you edited....never knew there were so many behind-the-scenes PM's to a simple joke-exchange between us, guess they must take this pretty seriously...or you just made that up, I believe the latter ;)

Never knew huffingtonpost was into Marketing for Muslims lol, as well as CNN and other news srouces that have had similar articles...  ::)

Getbig is serious business. The fate of the universe is decided right here on this board in case you havent noticed. Plenty of people have their say via PM whether you want to believe it or not. Doesnt matter to me what you believe.

Marketing is marketing regardless of the religion. Why is someones conversion news? Why would it matter to anyone except the convertee.......unless its to induce others to take a look at the brand.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 14, 2012, 01:32:41 PM
I just dont follow it, I protect, defend it, and I see thru your bullshits. You consider us as animals and dont want to live with us. You pretend to, but in fact you dont want to. You just want to erase/replace us and live with your owns here. You only like us when we give you everything without asking anything in return.
i moved in here cuz i think this country is better than the one i was living in.what make this country better is its constitution which gives the power to weaks and fragile minorities that is why people from all over the world moved to usa.founder of constitution of this country went through bitter experiences of hate and brutaliy and realize enoguh is enough.we have to have some law we cant live on like this.i am sure u must have be an outlaw if u was born in wild west but for every johnney ringo there will always be a wyatt earp.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bigbobs on September 14, 2012, 01:35:09 PM
Getbig is serious business. The fate of the universe is decided right here on this board in case you havent noticed. Plenty of people have their say via PM whether you want to believe it or not. Doesnt matter to me what you believe.

Marketing is marketing regardless of the religion. Why is someones conversion news? Why would it matter to anyone except the convertee.......unless its to induce others to take a look at the brand.

lol I know getbig is serious I just don't think that within minutes of your reply you got PM's telling you what to say (why wouldn't these mysterious characters just reply themselves, it's not like what they supposedly told you to say was harsh or anything?).  No big deal either way, I edit posts after the fact sometimes too.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tyr on September 14, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
lol I know getbig is serious I just don't think that within minutes of your reply you got PM's telling you what to say (why wouldn't these mysterious characters just reply themselves, it's not like what they supposedly told you to say was harsh or anything?).  No big deal either way, I edit posts after the fact sometimes too.


There was nothing anyone wanted me to post on their behalf. They were just observations or jokes regarding the thread which I thought were amusing enough to add to my own post.

You skipped my question though. Why is a conversion (any) newsworthy?

Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Dokey111 on September 14, 2012, 01:51:32 PM
christian vs. muslim courtesy of you-know-who
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: bigbobs on September 14, 2012, 01:52:04 PM

There was nothing anyone wanted me to post on their behalf. They were just observations or jokes regarding the thread which I thought were amusing enough to add to my own post.

You skipped my question though. Why is a conversion (any) newsworthy?



All kinds of things are considered newsworthy to different types of people.  I read bbc online, and its got a ton of different categories of news stories, only 3 or 4 stories of which interest me daily.  I purposely posted a link not from an Islamic website because I knew those articles could be biased, but huffingtonpost is not an Islamic site, so if they post that Islamic conversions are on the rise I see no reason to doubt the credibility of the article or its intent.  I saw some CNN links in youtube as well on the same subject - again, can't say CNN would have some marketing agenda.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 14, 2012, 01:54:25 PM
All kinds of things are considered newsworthy to different types of people.  I read bbc online, and its got a ton of different categories of news stories, only 3 or 4 stories of which interest me daily.  I purposely posted a link not from an Islamic website because I knew those articles could be biased, but huffingtonpost is not an Islamic site, so if they post that Islamic conversions are on the rise I see no reason to doubt the credibility of the article or its intent.  I saw some CNN links in youtube as well on the same subject - again, can't say CNN would have some marketing agenda.

Your attempt at playing the part of something other than the ignorant baboon you are is amusing!  8)
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tyr on September 14, 2012, 02:21:43 PM
All kinds of things are considered newsworthy to different types of people.  I read bbc online, and its got a ton of different categories of news stories, only 3 or 4 stories of which interest me daily.  I purposely posted a link not from an Islamic website because I knew those articles could be biased, but huffingtonpost is not an Islamic site, so if they post that Islamic conversions are on the rise I see no reason to doubt the credibility of the article or its intent.  I saw some CNN links in youtube as well on the same subject - again, can't say CNN would have some marketing agenda.

Yeah newsworthy for people trying to validate their way of life.

 There is always a marketing agenda whenever these types of articles are posted...regardless of where its posted. Unbiased news is non existant with so many special interest parties at the table.  Its the same way as an unbiased "reviewer"  extolling the virtues of the latest smartphone in the hopes of pushing sales.

The only reason for conversion articles is to prompt people to believe that their brand is worth trying or at least worthy of taking a look at. I'm not singling out one religion. Its just a game of oneupmanship. There is probably an article somewhere of  a muslim who converted to christianity and is thrilled with his/her choice.
Should this be newsworthy? Yes if you want more people to consider your brand of archaic nonsense.

Its a safe bet that religious Jersey shore followers consider snooki's life newsworthy.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Tyr on September 14, 2012, 02:35:33 PM
Do people call you "Big" as some type of cruel or mocking joke?


Bingo

Urban dictionary definition of bigbobs

1) An instrument used to remove an anal cavity from somebodys anus.
2) An instrument used to scratch your ass when its really itchy.
.

1) Hes gonna use the bigbobs when he extracts the cavity.
2) My ass is itchy, hand me the bigbobs. ( Nasser quote?)
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: da_vinci on September 14, 2012, 02:45:40 PM
I hope there will be more of such a "crimes", esp in Europe too. Europe is getting very sick of these scumbags from islam countries. Everytime I see a dark skinned/muslim faced piece of shit trying to pick on OUR white females - I want to rip these camel heads off. You better stay a fukkin' way when you come to countries of white people and always keep in mind - that there are at least 50% of these around you that are pondering the idea of punching you in the face, maybe this will keep you calmer. Germany, France, Uk, etc.. white people there are getting very angry, I hope they will start to put these scumbags in their place, sooner than later. Or it may be too late (if it's not, already..).
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Jaime on September 14, 2012, 03:11:29 PM
Religious people hold back advancement, spiritually and scientifically.

You should have your own continent, i suggest Africa.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 14, 2012, 03:25:33 PM
Religious people hold back advancement, spiritually and scientifically.

You should have your own continent, i suggest Africa.

Wrong.

Just because christianity and the church were opposed to the world, science and people does not mean that all religions of hte world are like christianity. This whole church/state seperation has SPECIFICALLY to do with how the church was and europe.... its a euro centric view

Without Islam and Muslims there would be no modern medicine, chemistry, algebra/mathematics, even a CAMERA wouldn't be possible. Did you even know camera is an arabic word?

www.muslimheritage.com
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Shockwave on September 14, 2012, 04:35:09 PM
Wrong.

Just because christianity and the church were opposed to the world, science and people does not mean that all religions of hte world are like christianity. This whole church/state seperation has SPECIFICALLY to do with how the church was and europe.... its a euro centric view

Without Islam and Muslims there would be no modern medicine, chemistry, algebra/mathematics, even a CAMERA wouldn't be possible. Did you even know camera is an arabic word?

www.muslimheritage.com
TL:DR:GFY
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Jaime on September 16, 2012, 02:15:54 AM
Wrong.

Just because christianity and the church were opposed to the world, science and people does not mean that all religions of hte world are like christianity. This whole church/state seperation has SPECIFICALLY to do with how the church was and europe.... its a euro centric view

Without Islam and Muslims there would be no modern medicine, chemistry, algebra/mathematics, even a CAMERA wouldn't be possible. Did you even know camera is an arabic word?

www.muslimheritage.com


STFU, the quality of life in the middle east is laughable, you  had a progressive civilization right about the time europe was in the dark ages, you have done fuck all since apart from rape and abuse women and children and kill each other, you tiny cocked piece of shit.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 16, 2012, 08:32:39 AM
I guess you haven't been in the middle east?

It's funny how no one ever talks about the poverty, poor infrastrcture, unemployement, suicide and depression in america?

(http://www.muhammadsafwat.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Qatar.jpg)

(http://www.qatarembassy.net/qatar%20gallery/doha%20city/slides/Doha%20city%20008%20state%20of%20Qatar.JPG)

(http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/main_Qatar.jpg)

(http://www.thetravelpixie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/kuwait-city.jpg)

(http://www.kuwaitinfo.org.uk/Kuwait_City_Liberation_Tower.jpg)

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/73/203804800_976370216a.jpg)

(http://www.worldfortravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Old-City-Madinah.jpg/img]

[img]http://hidayaresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Al-Madina.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f4Up1KAhrkk/TrjjjyH2bYI/AAAAAAAABbw/jkzbEvQEzTM/s1600/makkah5.jpg)

(http://www.abudhabi.ms/style/abudhabi.jpg)

(http://www.simple2book.com/siteImages/PRODUCTDESC/325/abudhabi.jpg)

(http://www.greecemedtravel.com/greecemedtravel/filelibrary/productthumbnails/shangri-la-abu-dhabi.jpg)

(http://www.whitegadget.com/attachments/pc-wallpapers/88221d1322889391-dubai-city-dubai-city-pics.jpg)

(http://www.dubaicityinfo.com/siteImages/PRODUCTDESC/191/dubai-city.jpg)

(http://www.tunisiaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/tunis.jpg)

(http://www.travelswithsheila.com/mini-tunis.jpg)

(http://en.tunisientunisie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tunis332.jpg)

(http://www.kirikou.com/tunez/tunis/tunis11.jpg)

The rest of the world is not a shithole like the west wants you to believe. I've been to africa, middle-east, europe and north america. Africa and ME are actually really really nice.. even the poor areas have a sense of peace that you cannot find anywhere in america. I plan to get off this rock and maybe go to qatar or saudi or uae for some jobs once wife finishes school.

The difference between muslims and non muslims especially of those in the west... is that muslims are bent on BUILDING and improving their sense of life and well being..  While for example Americans, they are bent on SAVING money, cheapning out, exploiting people's money of their own people, of other foreign people, after wars and conquest, destablizing others while you are crumbling... however it becomes difficult when there are military dictators (for example egypt which you supported for 30 years) or tunis, where they leech on the people's wealth and use it for their own means. However when they do get a chance to build they build unlike what you can imagine.

Just like in the middle agees... there was public drinking water, public lights in muslim spain while the british lived in mud houses.

Today its not that different so when a westerner actually visits the middle east they are in absolute shock... both at the life style and structures.

Its also VERY hard to build when you are constantly BOMBED. Thank you America. However there where there is no american meddling and bombing usually is tremendous progress.

And just like in the past Muslims have something of a culture you can only fantasize of in hollywood. You are angry jealous crusader wanabes who only have blood thirst.. and just like the popes and emperors of europe past... they brainwash the ignorant masses into fearing that which they dont know... hating that which tehy are told to hate... and instigating and hurting Muslims via all possible means then wondering 'why do they hate us'. I mean 1+ million people killed, seven countries attacked one would think thats more than enough to PISS OFF people in the last 10 years alone.. not to mention the last 200 some years of colonialism and other shit.

I loved living there and inshAllah (God willing) can't wait to get off this God forsaken rock when I get a job opportunity abroad.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: dj181 on September 16, 2012, 10:26:18 AM
wanna see america in all her glory? go to detroit :D :D :D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Shockwave on September 16, 2012, 11:27:27 AM

I loved living there and inshAllah (God willing) can't wait to get off this God forsaken rock when I get a job opportunity abroad.
TL:DR:GFY

(Too long, didn't read, go fuck yourself)
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 17, 2012, 03:00:24 AM
i am seriously thinking about moving to dubai.one of the top country of the world security wise.i have been there few times left my full shopping cart unattended for hours nothing was missing.My host made joke when i refuse to left cart like this..he said dont worry its not America....was kinda funny...
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 17, 2012, 09:17:00 AM
yeah ive been to emirate too, but honestly dubai didnt impress me in the sense that it felt like downtown toronto EXCEPT it was all brand spanking new, shining and ridiculously clean. No homeless people and no hookers at night. and of course no drunkards at night walking around.

What I loved more was a small place like 'ajman. Very peaceful and reminded me of libya in more humble abodes. Sharjah was nice too. Didn't get a chance to visit abu dhabi unfortunately but its very well built and more of a mix of new and traditional.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on September 17, 2012, 09:42:31 PM
Quote
A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within
will durant
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: littledumbells on September 20, 2012, 06:15:56 AM
Wrong.

Just because christianity and the church were opposed to the world, science and people does not mean that all religions of hte world are like christianity. This whole church/state seperation has SPECIFICALLY to do with how the church was and europe.... its a euro centric view

Without Islam and Muslims there would be no modern medicine, chemistry, algebra/mathematics, even a CAMERA wouldn't be possible. Did you even know camera is an arabic word?

www.muslimheritage.com

   It took thinking/inquisitive people to come up with that stuff. Religion had fuck to do with it
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 20, 2012, 12:12:43 PM
Well it did for Muslims actually :) I know it didn't for Europe.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: littledumbells on September 21, 2012, 06:57:06 AM
Well it did for Muslims actually :) I know it didn't for Europe.

 What happened in the past couple centuries? Are muslims taking a break ? I
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 21, 2012, 09:25:51 AM
This happened:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism

Even the conflict is sudan is gracisouly the fault of the British. The Sudanese were tribes that moved around, and the british decided it was smart to force each group to be in a specific region, but forgot about the nomadic tribes.

This is just a visual representation of what happend:

(http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/images/colonialism1914.jpg)

Even the crusades slowed down progress. It's hard to progress when you're dealing with war. If it weren't for crusades and colonialism we'd have a lot more inventions and more peace for sure.

You know a Muslim is responsible for inventing the crankshaft, pistons and valves. Take a wild guess where that's used? A car. If it weren't for many of these conflicts we might have had a car a lot earlier. Before Michael Angelo ever conceived his flying wings or airplane ideas, it was the Muslims that did it way before him. Even the windmill it was invented by a persian muslim around 650AD not the dutch.

The reality is, these conflicts slow down mankind's progress. I've visitied muslim countries and lived as well. They are not as you think they are. They are actually far better off than we are. But there is an illusion created by the media to make everywhere else seem shitty while making it here look like the best thing in the whole world. The facts are quite opposite we live in a shit hole, ruled by shitheads, with a shitty infrastructure and money only being spent on wars.

If there was no US meddling and no imposing of dictators, believe me Muslims would surpass the west yet again. It is quite evident how? Even with the duress of conflicts and dictatorships, these people want to build build build, not war war war. The US only wants conflicts it doesnt give a shit about the crumbling infrastructure of its own country.

"Rebuilding countries" LOL... more like DESTROY the country, then bring in contractors, then indebt with interest the locals you invaded. Modern day new style colonialism,

Take the example of what just happened in Libya. There was no taxes, interest free banking, the country had NO debt, had GOLD lots of it... There's a whole list of things about the country and how Gadaffi benefitted the country. He wasnt all good obviously but the things the country offered you would not even imagine. I've lived there. My uncle's lived there for 30 years, his daughter was born there even. He is still not muslim and neither is she.

He wanted africa and arab countries to employ a gold and silver dinnar and dirham. This would have made africa RICH, while western countries CRUMBLE. Thats why he was invaded. And now? The country is indebted to the west with interest, IMF, world bank step in. Country is FUCKED

The fact that the muslims want shari'ah and to be ruled/rule by islam will not happen either, why because the US will meddle its ass in there and interfere and cause division and conflict as usual. There can never be peace or progress or justice as long as the western nations keep interfering!
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 21, 2012, 10:34:39 AM
This happened:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonialism

Even the conflict is sudan is gracisouly the fault of the British. The Sudanese were tribes that moved around, and the british decided it was smart to force each group to be in a specific region, but forgot about the nomadic tribes.

This is just a visual representation of what happend:

(http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/images/colonialism1914.jpg)

Even the crusades slowed down progress. It's hard to progress when you're dealing with war. If it weren't for crusades and colonialism we'd have a lot more inventions and more peace for sure.

You know a Muslim is responsible for inventing the crankshaft, pistons and valves. Take a wild guess where that's used? A car. If it weren't for many of these conflicts we might have had a car a lot earlier. Before Michael Angelo ever conceived his flying wings or airplane ideas, it was the Muslims that did it way before him. Even the windmill it was invented by a persian muslim around 650AD not the dutch.

The reality is, these conflicts slow down mankind's progress. I've visitied muslim countries and lived as well. They are not as you think they are. They are actually far better off than we are. But there is an illusion created by the media to make everywhere else seem shitty while making it here look like the best thing in the whole world. The facts are quite opposite we live in a shit hole, ruled by shitheads, with a shitty infrastructure and money only being spent on wars.

If there was no US meddling and no imposing of dictators, believe me Muslims would surpass the west yet again. It is quite evident how? Even with the duress of conflicts and dictatorships, these people want to build build build, not war war war. The US only wants conflicts it doesnt give a shit about the crumbling infrastructure of its own country.

"Rebuilding countries" LOL... more like DESTROY the country, then bring in contractors, then indebt with interest the locals you invaded. Modern day new style colonialism,

Take the example of what just happened in Libya. There was no taxes, interest free banking, the country had NO debt, had GOLD lots of it... There's a whole list of things about the country and how Gadaffi benefitted the country. He wasnt all good obviously but the things the country offered you would not even imagine. I've lived there. My uncle's lived there for 30 years, his daughter was born there even. He is still not muslim and neither is she.

He wanted africa and arab countries to employ a gold and silver dinnar and dirham. This would have made africa RICH, while western countries CRUMBLE. Thats why he was invaded. And now? The country is indebted to the west with interest, IMF, world bank step in. Country is FUCKED

The fact that the muslims want shari'ah and to be ruled/rule by islam will not happen either, why because the US will meddle its ass in there and interfere and cause division and conflict as usual. There can never be peace or progress or justice as long as the western nations keep interfering!

its easy to blame others for ur down fall no nation or individual can progress like this. useless to feel proud on old glory days what good is that now.there will always b a super power like it or not.its very important for the stability of the world for now its USA.it took few very wise men to make it what it is today but current wave of hate,anger and ignorance will eventually burn down every thing.like some one said above super powers only can break from within.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 21, 2012, 12:15:00 PM
wise men? WISE MEN?

Just in the last 10 years 1million+ ppl killed  ::) 7 countries attacked.

WISE MEN? You got to be joking.

I am pointing out reality. The reality is WAR has slown down progress. Constant WAR!

It happened when the crusades happened, it happened when colonialism happend and its happening in recent history with american imperialism.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 21, 2012, 12:35:34 PM
Your post is completely naive and ignorant ahmed.

Most African and Arab populations to this day are extremely primitive.  That's the reason they were colonized by Europeans.  Had they advanced at the rate of Europeans it would have been a different story. 

 

Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 21, 2012, 01:15:51 PM
Your post is completely naive and ignorant ahmed.

Most African and Arab populations to this day are extremely primitive.  That's the reason they were colonized by Europeans.  Had they advanced at the rate of Europeans it would have been a different story.  

You're ignorant. I've lived in them and visited around these countries and as I've cited an uncle of mine lived in Libya for 30 years and even his daughter was born there and he is a christian.

You can keep believing what you want but you are epically wrong. You might as well get a job at some american media channel.

The ignorant douchebags here thought I lived on trees in africa. The highways, roads, houses are practically gold compared to the matchbox houses and crumbled infrastructure we have here. I'm not talking about middle Africa, but again they are held back by having dictators and as well having been colonized and their lands' resources being plundered by foreigners and crooked rulers.

The media's job is to make everywhere else look like shit so you believe we have the best of the best in the whole world. We have nothing but a drone of slaves society who gets excited when a new iphone comes out while the countries crumble and the wealth is plundered.

The reason there is slown progress is because of constant oppression, imposed puppetry and wars.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 21, 2012, 01:28:09 PM
You're ignorant. I've lived in them and visited around these countries and as I've cited an uncle of mine lived in Libya for 30 years and even his daughter was born there and he is a christian.

You can keep believing what you want but you are epically wrong. You might as well get a job at some american media channel.

The ignorant douchebags here thought I lived on trees in africa. The highways, roads, houses are practically gold compared to the matchbox houses and crumbled infrastructure we have here. I'm not talking about middle Africa, but again they are held back by having dictators and as well having been colonized and their lands' resources being plundered by foreigners and crooked rulers.

The media's job is to make everywhere else look like shit so you believe we have the best of the best in the whole world. We have nothing but a drone of slaves society who gets excited when a new iphone comes out while the countries crumble and the wealth is plundered.

The reason there is slown progress is because of constant oppression, imposed puppetry and wars.

Why are they ruled by dictators, over and over and over?  Why were they colonized, by Europe and not the other way around?

Why didn't they even attempt to defend their own lands? They didn't have any modern weapons, why didn't they?  Why couldn't they take advantage of their own resources, or defend them?  Because they didn't (and still don't really) have any semblance of organization or government.  Why didn't/don't they?

Why are they constantly stabbing each other in the back and siding with the evil Americans and Europeans?

Why didn't African and Arab explorers sail around the world colonizing other lands?  Because they were more ethical people guided by Allah?  Or was it because there were no African/Arab explorers? ??? 

It doesn't make sense to blame repeated exploitation, when they've been the largest force in their own exploitation. 


Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: polychronopolous on September 21, 2012, 01:30:27 PM
You're ignorant. I've lived in them and visited around these countries and as I've cited an uncle of mine lived in Libya for 30 years and even his daughter was born there and he is a christian.

You can keep believing what you want but you are epically wrong. You might as well get a job at some american media channel.

The ignorant douchebags here thought I lived on trees in africa. The highways, roads, houses are practically gold compared to the matchbox houses and crumbled infrastructure we have here. I'm not talking about middle Africa, but again they are held back by having dictators and as well having been colonized and their lands' resources being plundered by foreigners and crooked rulers.

The media's job is to make everywhere else look like shit so you believe we have the best of the best in the whole world. We have nothing but a drone of slaves society who gets excited when a new iphone comes out while the countries crumble and the wealth is plundered.

The reason there is slown progress is because of constant oppression, imposed puppetry and wars.

LOL Africa's potential was held back due to "colonization"?? You and your Muslim brothers are always good for a laugh as I get piss drunk on the couch, receiving a blowjob from a married woman while watching television on my 70" plasma and every light in the house turned on. Have you posted a pic?? I am sure you are quite the beast!! :)
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 21, 2012, 01:35:47 PM
LOL Africa's potential was held back due to "colonization"?? You and your Muslim brothers are always good for a laugh as I get piss drunk on the couch, receiving a blowjob from a married woman while watching television on my 70" plasma and every light in the house turned on. Have you posted a pic?? I am sure you are quite the beast!! :)

"Frank, maybe you better go play in your room if Doyle's gonna talk nasty."
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: polychronopolous on September 21, 2012, 01:37:26 PM
"Frank, maybe you better go play in your room if Doyle's gonna talk nasty."

"Now you be quiet...We're talking" "The AD-ults are talking"
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 21, 2012, 01:46:02 PM
You guys are truly ignorant.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 21, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
You guys are truly ignorant.

Can you blame us?  We're infidels after all...  :-[
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: littledumbells on September 21, 2012, 02:59:00 PM
  I have always felt that those who constantly defend a faith, need to recommend what books to read to become enlightened, feel the need to point out all the great things that faith has done, are probably on pretty shaky ground in their beliefs.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 21, 2012, 03:24:48 PM
Not at all. Shaky ground? lol  ::) Reading books educates people. I thought you might know that. Learning history is beneficial too while you're at it and no history does not span only 24hours what abcbbccbcnbcfoxcnn tell you
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: littledumbells on September 21, 2012, 03:45:10 PM
so long as teh books are the "right" ones eh?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 21, 2012, 03:52:52 PM
Not at all. Shaky ground? lol  ::) Reading books educates people. I thought you might know that. Learning history is beneficial too while you're at it and no history does not span only 24hours what abcbbccbcnbcfoxcnn tell you

That's not what he said and you know it maybe you don't.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 21, 2012, 11:53:53 PM
You guys are truly ignorant.
No sir but u r delusional and that is the main problem with the world u talking about......tell me one empire in the history of mankind who did not had desire of expansion including Arab empire from beginning to end(Ottoman empire) end they plundered killed looted as much as they can like any other big empire of the world.thing u need to understand is dont let ur self get weak to the point where other get encouraged to attack u.i admire this countries freedom of speech and freedom of religion i fully support what ever they doing around the world to keep us safe here excluding Iraq war.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Shockwave on September 22, 2012, 07:02:14 AM
No sir but u r delusional and that is the main problem with the world u talking about......tell me one empire in the history of mankind who did not had desire of expansion including Arab empire from beginning to end(Ottoman empire) end they plundered killed looted as much as they can like any other big empire of the world.thing u need to understand is dont let ur self get weak to the point where other get encouraged to attack u.i admire this countries freedom of speech and freedom of religion i fully support what ever they doing around the world to keep us safe here excluding Iraq war.
He's a troll bro.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 22, 2012, 10:39:23 AM
I'm off to the movies, see you fine gentlemen a little bit later!


this movie is an act of lunacy to intentionally provoke people to do some thing crazy and nonsense.it must stopped.act of few lunatics put lives in danger of US serving men and women around the world.we can not move forward like this.who ever made this movie is biggest enemy of america not Muslims.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: littledumbells on September 22, 2012, 11:03:55 AM
this movie is an act of lunacy to intentionally provoke people to do some thing crazy and nonsense.it must stopped.act of few lunatics put lives in danger of US serving men and women around the world.we can not move forward like this.who ever made this movie is biggest enemy of america not Muslims.

  If it was not this they would have found or imagined something else to be offended by. Pretty amazing that a faith that "supposedly" invented math, medicine and the internet could be so absolutely backwards and medieval. The only way a person could be offended in the 1st place is to allow themselves to be offended.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Roger Bacon on September 22, 2012, 12:54:43 PM
this movie is an act of lunacy to intentionally provoke people to do some thing crazy and nonsense.it must stopped.act of few lunatics put lives in danger of US serving men and women around the world.we can not move forward like this.who ever made this movie is biggest enemy of america not Muslims.

Make a similar (but more disgusting and insulting) video about Christianity, or Judaism and see what happens.














Nothing, nothing will happen.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 22, 2012, 06:57:48 PM
Try denying the holocaust in France.

Hypocricy. Only when it comes to Islam and Muslims is hate speech suddenly free speech.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Shockwave on September 22, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
Try denying the holocaust in France.

Hypocricy. Only when it comes to Islam and Muslims is hate speech suddenly free speech.
France isn't the US genius.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 22, 2012, 07:16:19 PM
It doesn't matter. All western countries have become epitomes of hypocrisy.

Where's your outrage about the lack of true democracy in your country. Taking away of civil liberties, imprisonment without evidence, spying on everyone, the rich exploiting the poor and getting richer, the poor getting poorer, price of all life's essentials going up, your country going into debt... and your voting system being a total fraud. All 'candidates' being screen and preselected by lobbyist groups. One of which is none other than Israel's wing AIPAC. They conduct your foreign policy and tell you who to fear and hate, who to attack in their interests.

You know what's funny. Israel is black mailing Obama. They threaten to attack Iran, which would result in gulf countries pulling out of OPEC.. which would result in the US dollar being withdrawn in circulation for oil. Which would result in the US dollar being even weaker. If you obey Israel's wishes and make it your war yo may get away with it. Either way you are black mailed to death.

You don't know who your real enemies are. You are being misdirected.

Where is your outrage about the RNC and DNC convention and the voting fraud? They had everything scripted? Does that not outrage you? Neither party of the two party system is for you.

You are just a pawn and a tool. You should be far more concerned about that in your own country than countries that you idioitically ruin tens of thousands of miles away.

You realize if people like Ron paul got into power, you would stop wars, you would stop foreign aid, you would start working on your own country and fixing it, you would have some law and order without civil libreties being taken away.

Your whole policy is being driven by delusional hate of a people that have done nothing to you but you have been doing much for DECADES.


If you stopped this madness of yours obeying the likes of AIPAC, stopping constant wars, you would eventually start rebuilding your country, you would get out of debt although it will take serious time and u may not be 'on top' (even though you already are not on top), and you may start peaceful diplomatic relations and trade with the nations of the world WITOUT enslaving them to your policies and imposed dictators. People might have respect for you.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Radical Plato on September 22, 2012, 09:17:18 PM
this movie is an act of lunacy to intentionally provoke people to do some thing crazy and nonsense.it must stopped.act of few lunatics put lives in danger of US serving men and women around the world.we can not move forward like this.who ever made this movie is biggest enemy of america not Muslims.
Fuck Off, it's a movie for God's sake, Muslims are pre-programmed to react this way.  We are not Muslims, we don't have to abide by the Koran, we don't have to adopt their Religion of Violence.  Wake up and see, Muslims are trying to force the World to abide by their sick twisted ideology and worship a pedo/rapist/murderer and a violent book written in the dark ages.  Stop being a politically correct arsehole and realise unless you stand against these violent jihadists, it will be the West's undoing.  What do you think would happen if you lived in their Country and you protested threatening to kill all believers in Islam, you would be stoned to death, the fact is, Muslims don't even have a choice in wheter or not they believe, the penalty for Apostasy is DEATH, even if they wanted to leave their faith, they face the very real threat of being Murdered, hardly what you would call an enlightened faith, it is PURE EVIL, and must be resisted.. In what twisted world is murdering hundreds of people because of a movie less of a sin than insulting another's prophet.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 22, 2012, 09:39:46 PM
You are surprisingly being irrational for any form of discussion. Your answer is just kill kill kill it seems. Quite ironic.

I am starting to feel you haven't actually ever met a muslim, and of course much less had the chance to read the qur'an.

I have this gut feeling some of you have been watching too much pamella geller lately or have been 'learning' about islam off her website or those like her.

They are exploiting your ignorance.

I wasn't born muslim, i wasn't born arab, i am white and born european. I was raised partly christian partly atheist/secular/philosophy-type. No one 'brainwashed me' or 'indoctrinated me' from a young age, nor did anyone do that later. I just educated myself in matters that you can't seem to fathom.

You can't seem to see the contradiction.

Lastly I understand America has lost its respect worldwide for its actions for decades of war now. Don't you think you just prove that much more that America can't respect others when it promotes this sort of 'movie'.

It's basically a homosexual porn about the messenger of God. That's disgusting and yes insulting to us all. We take it to heart.

You are nothing but a bunch of hypocrite bullies in the end. That's what America does best. It bullies others then calls itself a victim... and what is america's answer all the time? War. More bloodshed. More killing. And to ascertain that goal? Lies.

There should be in place that prevents disrespect of religious belief of people. No not for sake of Muslims but for ALL religions. You can't seem to fathom that concept.

The reason I cited France for its hypocricy. It deliberately allowed publishing of an inciting cartoon (not the first time) while it has laws that even debating the holocaust, much less denying it, or any form of anti-semetism will result in your permanent ruin in society.

If America wants to be respect and held accountable and responsible for what it preaches, perhaps they should have right away stopped this hate mongerer.

There is such a thing as hate speech.

In Canada the prime minster wanted to criminalize CRITICISM of Israel. Hello? Yet this is "Free speech".

We are living in nazi times
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Radical Plato on September 22, 2012, 10:19:07 PM
You are surprisingly being irrational for any form of discussion. Your answer is just kill kill kill it seems. Quite ironic.

I am starting to feel you haven't actually ever met a muslim, and of course much less had the chance to read the qur'an.

I have this gut feeling some of you have been watching too much pamella geller lately or have been 'learning' about islam off her website or those like her.

They are exploiting your ignorance.

I wasn't born muslim, i wasn't born arab, i am white and born european. I was raised partly christian partly atheist/secular/philosophy-type. No one 'brainwashed me' or 'indoctrinated me' from a young age, nor did anyone do that later. I just educated myself in matters that you can't seem to fathom.

You can't seem to see the contradiction.

Lastly I understand America has lost its respect worldwide for its actions for decades of war now. Don't you think you just prove that much more that America can't respect others when it promotes this sort of 'movie'.

It's basically a homosexual porn about the messenger of God. That's disgusting and yes insulting to us all. We take it to heart.

You are nothing but a bunch of hypocrite bullies in the end. That's what America does best. It bullies others then calls itself a victim... and what is america's answer all the time? War. More bloodshed. More killing. And to ascertain that goal? Lies.

There should be in place that prevents disrespect of religious belief of people. No not for sake of Muslims but for ALL religions. You can't seem to fathom that concept.

The reason I cited France for its hypocricy. It deliberately allowed publishing of an inciting cartoon (not the first time) while it has laws that even debating the holocaust, much less denying it, or any form of anti-semetism will result in your permanent ruin in society.

If America wants to be respect and held accountable and responsible for what it preaches, perhaps they should have right away stopped this hate mongerer.

There is such a thing as hate speech.

In Canada the prime minster wanted to criminalize CRITICISM of Israel. Hello? Yet this is "Free speech".

We are living in nazi times
Like Muslims respect anything, they violate human rights continually, they treat women and non-muslims as lower than animals, they threaten extreme violence to those who disagree with them.  How can a group whose religion dictates that they must abuse and mistreat others as part of their Religious duty demand respect from others.  What a joke, to get respect you must be capable of respecting others, and the fact you constantly lie about Islam when we all know how much they hate all other religions including the atheists and then demand respect for your religion that advocates this is just disgusting.  Your very religion is offensive and disrespectful to others, yet you seem completely oblivious to this.  You expect others to respect a religion that is disrespectful and offensive to everyone who isn't part of that religion.  Yeah Right!
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 23, 2012, 12:11:05 AM
He's a troll bro.
he is convert must have some reason behind it.most convert have very unstable life b4 conversion.he will help us understand what is really going on.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 23, 2012, 12:19:25 AM
Try denying the holocaust in France.

Hypocricy. Only when it comes to Islam and Muslims is hate speech suddenly free speech.
u got the point here ahmad.we must show responsibility towards the sensitive parts whcih has potential to turn extremely violent.some sick minded people with hate agenda must not allowed to to take advantage of freedom of speech.i dont mind if united nation pass the law that insulting any of religious historical figure is a punishable crime.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 23, 2012, 12:36:09 AM
Fuck Off, it's a movie for God's sake, Muslims are pre-programmed to react this way.  We are not Muslims, we don't have to abide by the Koran, we don't have to adopt their Religion of Violence.  Wake up and see, Muslims are trying to force the World to abide by their sick twisted ideology and worship a pedo/rapist/murderer and a violent book written in the dark ages.  Stop being a politically correct arsehole and realise unless you stand against these violent jihadists, it will be the West's undoing.  What do you think would happen if you lived in their Country and you protested threatening to kill all believers in Islam, you would be stoned to death, the fact is, Muslims don't even have a choice in wheter or not they believe, the penalty for Apostasy is DEATH, even if they wanted to leave their faith, they face the very real threat of being Murdered, hardly what you would call an enlightened faith, it is PURE EVIL, and must be resisted.. In what twisted world is murdering hundreds of people because of a movie less of a sin than insulting another's prophet.
we dont need to stand against no where.our military is doing great job where its needed.USA is a super power and must act like one by showing responsibility and they are doing so.it is very important to keep stability in the world.we have important role to play.countries look upon us to solve their problems to fight negative forces among their region.from saudi arabia to pakistan from korea to kuwait our forces are directly involved to combat these negative elements.
the best thing we can do to support our country to keep the things calm at home.with this hate wave we are creating a useless threat at home wich could end up in civil war.u realy want to c that happened here.why talk against Holocaust is ban becuse it provoke anger and hate.i see it that way my friend.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Donny on September 23, 2012, 12:50:33 AM
Like Muslims respect anything, they violate human rights continually, they treat women and non-muslims as lower than animals, they threaten extreme violence to those who disagree with them.  How can a group whose religion dictates that they must abuse and mistreat others as part of their Religious duty demand respect from others.  What a joke, to get respect you must be capable of respecting others, and the fact you constantly lie about Islam when we all know how much they hate all other religions including the atheists and then demand respect for your religion that advocates this is just disgusting.  Your very religion is offensive and disrespectful to others, yet you seem completely oblivious to this.  You expect others to respect a religion that is disrespectful and offensive to everyone who isn't part of that religion.  Yeah Right!
THIS::::   KICK ISLAM OUT  >:( >:(   
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: stingray on September 23, 2012, 12:54:42 AM
we dont need to stand against no where.our military is doing great job where its needed.USA is a super power and must act like one by showing responsibility and they are doing so.it is very important to keep stability in the world.we have important role to play.countries look upon us to solve their problems to fight negative forces among their region.from saudi arabia to pakistan from korea to kuwait our forces are directly involved to combat these negative elements.
the best thing we can do to support our country to keep the things calm at home.with this hate wave we are creating a useless threat at home wich could end up in civil war.u realy want to c that happened here.why talk against Holocaust is ban becuse it provoke anger and hate.i see it that way my friend.

Superpower?

Who have you fought on even terms?

America is so tough, it put sanctions on afghanistan and iraq for 10-15 years, hardly had the state of the art military equipment, had run down tanks and helicopters, hardly had a army who can respond to a outside attack, then you claim your military is stronger when your not even playing on na level field.


Same as the jews in israel.Palestinians have no tanks, no army, no helicopters, no heavy weapons.Americans are being robbed by the zionists in israel and are given the most sophisticated latest weapns and have nuclear and chemical weapns.

Then the zionists cry when a home made rocket which has a impact like a fire cracker hits the jewish state.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Radical Plato on September 23, 2012, 01:18:16 AM
Superpower?

Who have you fought on even terms?

America is so tough, it put sanctions on afghanistan and iraq for 10-15 years, hardly had the state of the art military equipment, had run down tanks and helicopters, hardly had a army who can respond to a outside attack, then you claim your military is stronger when your not even playing on na level field.


Same as the jews in israel.Palestinians have no tanks, no army, no helicopters, no heavy weapons.Americans are being robbed by the zionists in israel and are given the most sophisticated latest weapns and have nuclear and chemical weapns.

Then the zionists cry when a home made rocket which has a impact like a fire cracker hits the jewish state.
It's nobody else's fault the Muslims can't get their sh!t together, they constantly go on about how great Mohammed is and the greatness of the Koran, yet they can't even raise the standard of living of their own people to what would be considered a first world level.  Muslims are brainwashed freaks, who, if they stopped worrying about the afterlife and focused their attention on creating a prosperous life in this one, they wouldn't be bogged down in the mire of shit they find themselves in.  Muslims are too busy praying to their false deity and being constantly offended to be able to raise themselves up to create a healthy and prosperous society.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: stingray on September 23, 2012, 01:33:35 AM
It's nobody else's fault the Muslims can't get their sh!t together, they constantly go on about how great Mohammed is and the greatness of the Koran, yet they can't even raise the standard of living of their own people to what would be considered a first world level.  Muslims are brainwashed freaks, who, if they stopped worrying about the afterlife and focused their attention on creating a prosperous life in this one, they wouldn't be bogged down in the mire of shit they find themselves in.  Muslims are too busy praying to their false deity and being constantly offended to be able to raise themselves up to create a healthy and prosperous society.

you guys put gaddafi in power, saddam in power, taliban in power. Your the ones who put dictators in place and who in turn supressed and slaughtered there own people.

Then when it suits you guys, you put sanctions on them, weaken them and turn them back 1000 years.

Go fight china or russia or something.

Superpower my ass.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: stingray on September 23, 2012, 01:36:47 AM
Go fix up your own country and get out of other people countries.


21 facts about America's decaying infrastructure that will blow your mind




You can tell a lot about a nation by the condition of the infrastructure. So what does our infrastructure say about us? It says that we are in a very advanced state of decay. At this point, much of America is being held together with spit, duct tape and prayers. Our roads are crumbling and thousands of our bridges look like they could collapse at any moment. Our power grid is ancient and over a trillion gallons of untreated sewage is leaking from our aging sewer systems each year. Our airports and our seaports are clogged with far more traffic than they were ever designed to carry. Approximately a third of all of the dam failures that have taken place in the United States since 1874 have happened during the past decade. Our national parks and recreation areas have been terribly neglected and our railroads are a bad joke.

Hurricane Katrina showed how vulnerable our levees are, and drinking water systems all over the country are badly outdated. Sadly, at a time when we could use significant new investment in infrastructure, our spending on infrastructure is actually way down. Back during the 50s and the 60s, the U.S. was spending between 3 and 4 percent of GDP on infrastructure. Today, that figure is down to about 2.4 percent. But of course we don't have any extra money to spend on infrastructure because of our reckless spending and because of the massive amount of debt that we have accumulated. While the Obama administration is spending more than half a million dollars to figure out why chimpanzees throw poop, our national infrastructure is literally falling apart all around us. Once upon a time nobody else on the planet could match our infrastructure, and now we are in the process of becoming a joke to the rest of the world.

The following are 21 facts about America's failing infrastructure that will blow your mind....


1] The American Society of Civil Engineers has given America's crumbling infrastructure an overall grade of D.



2] There are simply not enough roads in the United States today. Each year, traffic jams cost the commuters of America 4.2 billion hours and about 2.8 million gallons of gasoline.



3] It is being projected that Americans will spend an average of 160 hours stuck in traffic annually by the year 2035.



4] Approximately one-third of all roads in the United States are in substandard condition.



5] Close to a third of all highway fatalities are due "to substandard road conditions, obsolete road designs, or roadside hazards."



6] One out of every four bridges in America either carries more traffic than originally intended or is in need of repair.



7] Repairing all of the bridges in the United States that need repair would take approximately 140 billion dollars.



8] According to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, our decaying transportation system costs the U.S. economy about 78 billion dollars annually in lost time and fuel.



9] All over America, asphalt roads are being ground up and are being replaced with gravel roads because they are cheaper to maintain. The state of South Dakota has transformed over 100 miles of asphalt roads into gravel roads, and 38 out of the 83 counties in the state of Michigan have transformed at least some of their asphalt roads into gravel roads.



10] There are 4,095 dams in the United States that are at risk of failure. That number has risen by more than 100 percent since 1999.



11] Of all the dam failures that have happened in the United States since 1874, a third of them have happened during the past decade.



12] Close to half of all U.S. households do not have access to bus or rail transit.



13] Our aging sewer systems spill more than a trillion gallons of untreated sewage every single year. The cost of cleaning up that sewage each year is estimated to be greater than 50 billion dollars.



14] It is estimated that rolling blackouts and inefficiencies in the U.S. electrical grid cost the U.S. economy approximately 80 billion dollars a year.



15] It is being projected that by the year 2020 every single major container port in the United States will be handling at least double the volume that it was originally designed to handle.



16] All across the United States, conditions at many of our state parks, recreation areas and historic sites are deplorable at best. Some states have backlogs of repair projects that are now over a billion dollars long ....



More than a dozen states estimate that their backlogs are at least $100 million. Massachusetts and New York's are at least $1 billion. Hawaii officials called park conditions "deplorable" in a December report asking for $50 million per year for five years to tackle a $240 million backlog that covers parks, trails and harbors.



17] Today, the U.S. spends about 2.4 percent of GDP on infrastructure. Meanwhile, China spends about 9 percent of GDP on infrastructure.



18] In the United States today, approximately 16 percent of our construction workers are unemployed.



19] China has plans to build 55,000 miles of highways by the year 2020. If all of those roads were put end to end, it would be longer than the total length of the entire U.S. interstate system.



20] The World Economic Forum ranks U.S. infrastructure 23rd in the world, and we fall a little bit farther behind the rest of the developed world every single day.



21] It has been projected that it would take 2.2 trillion dollars over the next 5 years just to repair our existing infrastructure. That does not even include a single penny for badly needed new infrastructure.

So where did we go wrong?

Well, one of the big problems is that we have become a very materialistic society that is obsessed with short-term thinking. Investing in infrastructure is something that has long-term benefits, but these days Americans tend to only be focused on what is happening right now and most politicians are only focused on the next election cycle.

Another major problem is that there is so much corruption and waste in our system these days. The government certainly spends more than enough money, but very little of that money is spent wisely. A lot of the money that could be going toward rebuilding our infrastructure is being poured down the toilet instead. For much more on this, please read my previous article entitled "16 Sickening Facts That Show How Members Of Congress And Federal Workers Are Living The High Life At Your Expense".

Unfortunately, it is probably appropriate that our infrastructure is decaying because we are decaying in just about every other way that it is possible for a society to decay.

We are decaying economically, politically, mentally, emotionally, physically, morally and spiritually.

We are a complete and total mess. So why shouldn't what is happening to our infrastructure on the outside match what is happening to us as a nation on the inside?

And sadly, we simply do not have the money that we need for infrastructure because of all the debt that we have piled up. The federal government, our state governments and our local governments are all struggling to stay afloat in an ocean of red ink, and unfortunately that means that spending on infrastructure is likely to be cut even more in the years ahead.

So get used to rotting, crumbling, decaying infrastructure. What you see out there right now is only just the beginning
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Pray_4_War on September 28, 2012, 02:42:02 AM
I'd like to see the sources of these alleged "servery,s".

Where are the victims and where is the hard evidence?  Don't worry, I'll wait. 
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 28, 2012, 12:21:45 PM
you guys put gaddafi in power, saddam in power, taliban in power. Your the ones who put dictators in place and who in turn supressed and slaughtered there own people.

Then when it suits you guys, you put sanctions on them, weaken them and turn them back 1000 years.

Go fight china or russia or something.

Superpower my ass.

America is plying smart.its easy to find traitors with in countries u mentioned above and control the whole region through them rather than attack them.we are entitled to use all possible means to avoid direct war with any country.USA will exploit all of your weakness to keep you people at bay.like it or not....and why whould we give u equal battle ground is it soccer match we are playing.u want to be respected you dont ask for it u earn it like Russia and china.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: a_ahmed on September 28, 2012, 03:49:44 PM
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Donny on September 30, 2012, 01:13:15 AM

All i can say is stupid Bitch ???
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 30, 2012, 02:36:45 AM
All i can say is stupid Bitch ???
why the question marks?  Stupid Bitch end of story.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Donny on September 30, 2012, 03:20:25 AM
why the question marks?  Stupid Bitch end of story.
yes... ;D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Radical Plato on September 30, 2012, 06:16:24 AM

Perfect example of how Islam attracts those of low intelligence, this woman will last five minutes as a Muslim, her whole life has been flitting from one belief to the next and is desperate for some feeling of security,  The turning point for her was when she discovered the women were kept separate from the men because of the effect a woman's sexuality has on men (WTF) and Islam respected a woman who was essentially an old fashioned woman who kept house and looked after the children.  Any man would appreciate that, you don't have to be a Muslim to appreciate a woman doing what they were meant to do.  This woman is deeply NAIVE and once she learns the truth will run for the hills, essentially with a large group of angry muslims right behind her wanting to punish her for apostasy.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 30, 2012, 06:28:54 AM
E-Kul, have you read "Reflections on the Revolution in Europe"?  I bought it the other day, and am finishing another book before reading it, but it seems like it will be a good read from someone who seems to know that the end will come with the migration of Moslems.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Radical Plato on September 30, 2012, 06:52:22 AM
E-Kul, have you read "Reflections on the Revolution in Europe"?  I bought it the other day, and am finishing another book before reading it, but it seems like it will be a good read from someone who seems to know that the end will come with the migration of Moslems.
No, I haven't read that book, I am currently reading  - Why I Am Not a Muslim by Ibn Warraq - Good read, but I find Islam so depressing, the more you learn about it, the more you realise that Muslims are incapable of Reason or Logic and that the West will eventually either submit to them or decide to fight fire with fire, I am hoping it is the latter, a mighty good arse kicking might be the only way to shake these fuckers back into reality.  No different than electric shock treatment for severely depressed catatonic mental patients.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Rajkapoor on September 30, 2012, 08:16:38 AM
No, I haven't read that book, I am currently reading  - Why I Am Not a Muslim by Ibn Warraq - Good read, but I find Islam so depressing, the more you learn about it, the more you realise that Muslims are incapable of Reason or Logic and that the West will eventually either submit to them or decide to fight fire with fire, I am hoping it is the latter, a mighty good arse kicking might be the only way to shake these fuckers back into reality.  No different than electric shock treatment for severely depressed catatonic mental patients.

i agree with your views on Muslims generally but i dont think muslims are following Islam by any means.i read quran and i have to admitt i was amazed by its contents....i think there is no harm reading it but u have to read it with open mind and being unbiased u will be in better position to make up your mind about Muslims.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Donny on September 30, 2012, 08:25:37 AM
i agree with your views on Muslims generally but i dont think muslims are following Islam by any means.i read quran and i have to admitt i was amazed by its contents....i think there is no harm reading it but u have to read it with open mind and being unbiased u will be in better position to make up your mind about Muslims.
yeah .. but do they have an "open mind" about US ??? no...it´s like where i live, Turks here and Kurds like to fuck German women but if you fuck their Women they attack you. It´s like we can just dirty your women because they are dirt but our Women are sacred... know what i mean and Muslims are really the same. A Brit i know here told me he was fucking a Turkish Girl and one night the Family of the Girl ambushed him and beat the shit out of him and stabbed him, he nearly died in the Emergency Op in the Hospital. Things like this make me very adament that you have to be careful not to let these Religous maniacs get their way...  >:(
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: _bruce_ on October 01, 2012, 04:43:29 PM
yeah .. but do they have an "open mind" about US ??? no...it´s like where i live, Turks here and Kurds like to fuck German women but if you fuck their Women they attack you. It´s like we can just dirty your women because they are dirt but our Women are sacred... know what i mean and Muslims are really the same. A Brit i know here told me he was fucking a Turkish Girl and one night the Family of the Girl ambushed him and beat the shit out of him and stabbed him, he nearly died in the Emergency Op in the Hospital. Things like this make me very adament that you have to be careful not to let these Religous maniacs get their way...  >:(

Pretty typical. Because of this it's best to avoid these people in any way or form. This family tie bondage stuff is often the main reason female turkfags don't fanny any original natives because  it wreaks havoc on the penetra(i)tor.
Most törks in "Germanistan" and "Austribab" are anatolic retards - that's the main reason for the problems that eventually will seal the deal.
Normal turks from Istanbül/Izzmir and the like aren't as vile and stupid, but the governments decided to let these animals in in the 60ies and now the state is dissolving.

Btw, Turkey is heading down the same road as Iran.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 01, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
Pretty typical. Because of this it's best to avoid these people in any way or form. This family tie bondage stuff is often the main reason female turkfags don't fanny any original natives because  it wreaks havoc on the penetra(i)tor.
Most törks in "Germanistan" and "Austribab" are anatolic retards - that's the main reason for the problems that eventually will seal the deal.
Normal turks from Istanbül/Izzmir and the like aren't as vile and stupid, but the governments decided to let these animals in in the 60ies and now the state is dissolving.

Btw, Turkey is heading down the same road as Iran.


Bruce, where do you hail from?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: _bruce_ on October 02, 2012, 09:35:28 AM
Bruce, where do you hail from?

I "hail" from Austria/Vienna though I don't live in Vienna anymore.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 02, 2012, 05:44:04 PM
What made you leave the "ostreich"?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: _bruce_ on October 06, 2012, 02:37:49 PM
What made you leave the "ostreich"?

Haven't left the country yet but gave up my flat in Vienna. The district where I was living has changed over the years - for the worse.
Currently I'm in the east most part of Austurkistan and due to the strong eastern european influx it's still european... knock on Vodka.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: stingray on October 06, 2012, 03:36:58 PM
No, I haven't read that book, I am currently reading  - Why I Am Not a Muslim by Ibn Warraq - Good read, but I find Islam so depressing, the more you learn about it, the more you realise that Muslims are incapable of Reason or Logic and that the West will eventually either submit to them or decide to fight fire with fire, I am hoping it is the latter, a mighty good arse kicking might be the only way to shake these fuckers back into reality.  No different than electric shock treatment for severely depressed catatonic mental patients.

Did you also read Why I Am Not A Christian by historian and philosopher Richard Carrier, or Why I Am Not a Hindu, or Why I Am Not a Jew, by David Dvorkin?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Pork_Chop on October 11, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
"If you could reason with a religious person... there would be no religion."
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 11, 2012, 09:36:09 PM
I'd like to see the sources of these alleged "servery,s".

Where are the victims and where is the hard evidence?  Don't worry, I'll wait. 


"crickets chirping"
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: phreak on October 12, 2012, 01:56:03 AM
"crickets chirping"
Because I'm so fucking bored at work today, I've researched this for you. I hope you appreciate me spending all of 15 seconds on your lazy request.

Here's the same thing, but with all clickable source links: http://www.infowars.com/21-facts-about-americas-decaying-infrastructure-that-will-blow-your-mind/
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: phreak on October 12, 2012, 01:57:56 AM
inB4 "facts have a liberal bias". ;D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2012, 02:24:58 AM
phreak-

The fuck does any of that shit have to do with Hate crimes being "on the rise" against muslims?  That was the hard evidence that I was asking for.

All the shit you posted was about infrastructure.  Fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: phreak on October 12, 2012, 02:52:16 AM
phreak-

The fuck does any of that shit have to do with Hate crimes being "on the rise" against muslims?

That was the hard evidence that I was asking for.

All the shit you posted was about infrastructure.  Fucking idiot.
You aren't too bright, are you? Someone (stingray, not me) posts a massive piece of text pertaining to infrastructure, with information based on surveys. Your post immediately following it is:

 "I'd like to see the sources of these alleged "servery,s".

Where are the victims and where is the hard evidence?  Don't worry, I'll wait.  "



Sane people then make the inference that the two are connected. Just as sane people now realize that you are a dumb shit who doesn't know how to use the quote function. So in the end we all learn! Except for you, as your level of schooling seems to be on par with girl schools in Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2012, 03:22:10 AM
You aren't too bright, are you? Someone (stingray, not me) posts a massive piece of text pertaining to infrastructure, with information based on surveys. Your post immediately following it is:

 "I'd like to see the sources of these alleged "servery,s".

Where are the victims and where is the hard evidence?  Don't worry, I'll wait.  "



Sane people then make the inference that the two are connected. Just as sane people now realize that you are a dumb shit who doesn't know how to use the quote function. So in the end we all learn! Except for you, as your level of schooling seems to be on par with girl schools in Afghanistan.

Look genius, I replied to the OP.  Does everyone in the thread have to quote the OP so you can keep up?  How about this instead, learn to fucking read.  You tried to put me on blast but instead you made a fool of yourself.  Now instead of just saying "my bad I thought you were talking about something else" you are trying to blame me just because I happened to type my response after Stingray's bullshit that was totally unrelated to every other post in the thread.  If you can't pay attention to what people are discussing then do us all a favor and don't respond.  

Now, fuck off.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: phreak on October 12, 2012, 03:27:41 AM
Look genius, I replied to the OP.  Does everyone in the thread have to quote the OP so you can keep up?  How about this instead, learn to fucking read.  You tried to put me on blast but instead you made a fool of yourself.  Now instead of just saying "my bad I thought you were talking about something else" you are trying to blame me just because I happened to type my response after Stingray's bullshit that was totally unrelated to every other post in the thread.  If you can't pay attention to what people are discussing then do us all a favor and don't respond.  

Now, fuck off.

Meh. Put some more effort into your trolling. I come here to have fun, not read simplistic comebacks I could read on Bb.com.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: phreak on October 12, 2012, 03:33:11 AM
But, just to make you look even more like a fundamentalist asshole:

Took me all of two minutes to find data on hate crime stats. Using google must be a real challenge for you.

2010 12.7 percent were victims of an anti-Islamic bias
2009 8.4 percent were victims because of an anti-Islamic bias
2008 7.5 percent were victims because of an anti-Islamic bias

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/civilrights/hate_crimes



BRB FBI is liberally biased.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2012, 03:34:50 AM
Meh. Put some more effort into your trolling. I come here to have fun, not read simplistic comebacks I could read on Bb.com.

Exactly.  You don't read or understand, but yet you feel compelled to respond.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2012, 04:01:41 AM
Phreak let me quote the OP for you

servery,s are showing hate crime against muslin rise 50% in USA after 9/11..will it lead to civil war in next 10 to 20 years.specially when lots of American converting to Islam every year.we Indian,s are in very difficult situation we are looked upon one of them from the majority of american people while we have nothing to do with Islam.i have feeling we will get caught in cross fire.

I just wanted to get an answer about where these surveys came from and what was the hard evidence that the OP was using to make this claim.  What are they using to support these percentages?  A 50% increase when the sample size is very small doesn't mean much.  Does it take in to consideration the population of muslims in America before 9/11 compared to now?  A larger population could skew those numbers, etc.

Also, these are reported hate crimes.  Any individual that is part of a minority group can report that they are the victim of a hate crime when someone assaults them or trashes their property.  Just because the victim believes something is racially motivated doesn't that mean they are correct.  Hate is an emotion.  There is no way to measure an emotion.  We are taking the victims word for it most times.   People of all races and religions get their asses kicked or their property fucked up every day.  Shit happens.  Maybe they are just an asshole and someone decided to throw them a beating. 

Stats don't tell the whole story even when they are compiled by the infalliable government.  Stats often do not account for all the variables and therefore are imperfect and unreliable.  This isn't a Republic vs Democrat issue.  It's a critical thinking issue. 
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: phreak on October 12, 2012, 04:20:58 AM
Phreak let me quote the OP for you

I just wanted to get an answer about where these surveys came from and what was the hard evidence that the OP was using to make this claim.  What are they using to support these percentages?  A 50% increase when the sample size is very small doesn't mean much.  Does it take in to consideration the population of muslims in America before 9/11 compared to now?  A larger population could skew those numbers, etc.

Also, these are reported hate crimes.  Any individual that is part of a minority group can report that they are the victim of a hate crime when someone assaults them or trashes their property.  Just because the victim believes something is racially motivated doesn't that mean they are correct.  Hate is an emotion.  There is no way to measure an emotion.  We are taking the victims word for it most times.   People of all races and religions get their asses kicked or their property fucked up every day.  Shit happens.  Maybe they are just an asshole and someone decided to throw them a beating. 

Stats don't tell the whole story even when they are compiled by the infalliable government.  Stats often do not account for all the variables and therefore are imperfect and unreliable.  This isn't a Republic vs Democrat issue.  It's a critical thinking issue. 
At the risk of turning this into an actual factual discussion (fuck you, man! That feels like work! ;D):

I completely agree that stats are should be interpreted in the light of how they were gathered. But the original claim was a 50% increase since 9-11. It's been that much just from 2009 to 2010, so claim proven.

However, interesting point to consider: the recent Sikh temple shooting, were the victims counted as Sikh (their true religion) or as muslims (what the dumbass shooter probably thought they were)?
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 12, 2012, 03:09:42 PM
At the risk of turning this into an actual factual discussion (fuck you, man! That feels like work! ;D):


 ;D
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: The Scott on October 13, 2012, 10:06:03 AM
Re: Hate crime is on rise against by Muslims.  Low budget movies are serious business.  

I agree. 
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 13, 2012, 06:31:53 PM
If you read about history, you will see the shifts in power over the course of the centuries. The Ottoman Moslems had control of the Balkans and portions of Eastern Europe, then fell off. May e it's just our turn to be on the decline  ::). Fuck that, we're fighting back.
Title: Re: Hate crime is on rise against Muslims
Post by: Natural Man on October 16, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Iran will not get close to a nuclear weapon, Israel will level the place with Jericho 3 missiles not bombs (as you stated). Israel is a very small country with a very dense population even one nuclear hit would be extremely grim. I would take Netanyahu's thin red line extremely seriously. This will be worse if Romney is elected with the hawkish republican party in power. Romney would not merely approve it, he might even help! One Ohio class SSGM and a flight of B2's can ruin Irans day for a very very long time and that is only the beginning of their pain-let alone B52's with standoff weapons like CALCM. These taking off from Deigo Garcia...trust me the Mullahs would have a very, very bad day!

 

As far other world political groups like EU or Arab League, the USA is waiting until they have had enough and don't care if Iran is attacked (this is Obama's strategy).

 

The idea to cripple Iran with sanctions just wont work. Sanctions are the siege warfare of the modern world; they are only effective if the besieged remains isolated. Frankly, Iran has done an excellent job of getting by sanctions until very recently. This is what Netanyahu is saying-his clock has less hours in the day than Amercia's, and he is right.