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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #10575 on: March 13, 2024, 12:06:53 PM »
Good article on this topic here:

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/03/09/what-happens-if-ethereum-is-a-security/
That's FUD from over a year ago. Nothing came from it. High ranking SEC officials already claimed Ethereum is not a security.

New York Attorney General (NYAG) Letitia James is probably a diversity hire who does not know what she's talking about. Give me a break! New York is a fuckup.

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« Reply #10576 on: March 13, 2024, 12:08:53 PM »
The SEC probably just finds numbers that suits their narrative. Price data from more exchange, different time periods etc.

If they delay or reject, the reason for it will show their hand.

There is also still a reasonable chance that Larry Fink says FU give me my ETF
Well, Blackrock has only been denied once.

I agree though that they could delay the ETH ETF again in May. That might just prolong the bull run, especially if they then approve it later in the year.

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« Reply #10577 on: March 13, 2024, 12:12:37 PM »
BNB and SOL pumping nicely. Glad I did not offload my BNB. Will be great if it can rally back to ATH. It's only about 18% from the ATH price of $699. BNB is another token with a burn mechanism to reduce supply. Only thing that sucks about SOL is the inflation and the shutdowns.

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« Reply #10578 on: March 13, 2024, 02:34:46 PM »
If Ether ETF is denied by SEC do you see it being approved further in the year or in 2025?

It really depends on the reason for any denial. Politics is also a huge thing here. Gensler is in the doghouse with the Elizabeth Warren camp over approving the BTC ETF, so he doesn't want to piss them off even more by approving this one. At the same time he doesn't want another loss in court if someone decides to take a denial that way.

Also that line of politics becomes moot if Trump wins in November. So I'd say yes it gets approved eventually.

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« Reply #10579 on: March 13, 2024, 02:52:21 PM »
Cheers for the info on the ETFs.

See how May goes. I have Mar-Jul as an event window for S&P which will take crypto with it so I’d prefer an ETH ETF delay to August.

If they are backed into a corner and have to approve, the timing will have some meaning. Like with BTC prior to the halving made sense.

Back in December I was looking at the first rate cut as my potential exit point. I feel even more strongly about that now.

It seems it doesn't matter any more if macro data is bullish or bearish, the S&P is just gonna go up. Someone pointed out to me it's possibly because inflation still remains a significant part of GDP. That starts to go down when they start cutting rates, so it won't matter if they try sell rate cuts as bullish/soft landing, markets will still probably go risk off for a while, but not a crash type scenario, more a healthy correction.

60% chance the first cuts are in June, 40% it's July. They front run it by a month, so sell off potentially in May. Those percentages can change significantly though, but the later they cut the more ridiculous the pump (and eventual dump) $100k BTC may feel like a cheap entry point soon.

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« Reply #10580 on: March 13, 2024, 03:40:45 PM »
I was looking at rate cuts back in December as my potential exit point. I'm feel even more strongly about that now.

It seems it doesn't matter any more if macro data is bullish or bearish, the S&P is just gonna go up. Someone pointed out to me it's possibly because inflation still remains a significant part of GDP. That starts to go down when they start cutting rates, so it won't matter if they try sell rate cuts as bullish/soft landing, markets will still probably go risk off for a while.

60% chance the first cuts are in June, 40% it's July. They front run it by a month, so sell off potentially in May. Those percentages can change significantly though, but the later they cut the more ridiculous the pump (and eventual dump) $100k BTC may feel like a cheap entry point soon.

My original 5.33% model which turned out to be correct had rate cuts in 2024. However once we reached my Target the forward modelling didn’t feel right. I prepped for 10.5% rates based on it already but I have WAY too much cashflow, it’s excessive.

So in August last year I rebuilt my model to no rate cuts. I get the same outcome as the prior model but I now have a triple top of inflation 10%-11%, rates grind up each wave. So wave 2 might be 7.5% and wave 3 I finish at 10.5%.

So far it’s been correct for 8 months while market has been wrong. The market has NFI on rates or inflation until 2 weeks out from decision. The market was 98.5% betting on a June cut last month and now that’s dropped to 60% chance. If I get to June with no cut that will be a hold on rates correct for 10 months. I think I have small hikes happening in 2025, I’ll have to look.

I have had Mar-Jul 2024 window for S&P selloff in my original plan FWIW (I had S&P target range 5,300). 3 out of 4 times an S&P correction resulted in a multi year Bitcoin bear market. 1 of 1 times Saylor taking leverage resulted in a multi year bear market.

The ETH ETF is very interesting to me now…… BTC sell off to the 40s, ETH ETF approval in August and we will see funds divert…… the timing would be very interesting. Wall St would get 2 bites of the cherry. A BTC cycle top then moves straight into creating an ETH top. I have BTC 1 peak and I had ETH as 2 peaks. I couldn’t figure out how the 2nd peak for ETH would happen. Maybe this is how 🤔

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« Reply #10581 on: March 13, 2024, 04:16:07 PM »
Binance BNB just keeps pumping LMAO. Nigeria is now blaming Binance for their currency issues.

BNB is at $622 and up 16% the past 24 hours, approaching the ATH. It's up 144.89% the past 3 months, well ahead of BTC, ETH and SOL. How high can BNB go? I think perhaps $2000 based on the supply and use case. The US and Nigeria might want to crack down on Binance. But the rest of the world is still onboard. Binance also paid a huge fine to the US of over $4 billion. I am cautiously impressed with Binance. Hope they stay the course in the face of all these onslaughts.

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« Reply #10582 on: March 13, 2024, 04:17:50 PM »
It really depends on the reason for any denial. Politics is also a huge thing here. Gensler is in the doghouse with the Elizabeth Warren camp over approving the BTC ETF, so he doesn't want to piss them off even more by approving this one. At the same time he doesn't want another loss in court if someone decides to take a denial that way.

Also that line of politics becomes moot if Trump wins in November. So I'd say yes it gets approved eventually.
But who cares what Elizabeth Warren thinks. Her one foot is already in the grave. She's an outdated corrupt politician. The BTC ETF is making money for the people that really control the US and own the politicians.

Now this is funny!

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2024/03/13/coinbase-nixes-page-promoting-elizabeth-whoren-meme-coin/

Coinbase took down a webpage that explained "how to buy elizabeth whoren," a derogatory token referencing U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.)

https://coinranking.com/coin/WsFTcWcpg+elizabathwhoren-whoren

elizabath whoren WHOREN

Market Cap: $ 9.37 million
Supply: 97.97 million WHOREN

I'm gonna buy me some WHOREN!!

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« Reply #10583 on: March 13, 2024, 04:43:57 PM »
Binance BNB just keeps pumping LMAO. Nigeria is now blaming Binance for their currency issues.

BNB is at $622 and up 16% the past 24 hours, approaching the ATH. It's up 144.89% the past 3 months, well ahead of BTC, ETH and SOL. How high can BNB go? I think perhaps $2000 based on the supply and use case. The US and Nigeria might want to crack down on Binance. But the rest of the world is still onboard. Binance also paid a huge fine to the US of over $4 billion. I am cautiously impressed with Binance. Hope they stay the course in the face of all these onslaughts.

BNB is Binance’s own coin.

Holders are generally Binance exchange people. Pump their bags and suddenly they have more money to trade on Binance. The exchange then collect the fees from increased trade values which pay back the cost to pump.  that is the use case of BNB 😉

Supply and use case are pretty much red herrings. Narratives are Fed to retail so you don’t have to acknowledge you are a Degen gambler, we are here for the technology 😂 a dog with a hat is 3.4B market cap….. a dog…. Wearing a hat…. But we aren’t Degen Gamblers 😂

I just dumped one of my alts for an 8x. Buyers are euphoric thinking 100x is about to happen. Was a reasonable amount to actually. Going to go buy shit for the garden.



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« Reply #10584 on: March 13, 2024, 05:29:34 PM »

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« Reply #10585 on: March 13, 2024, 05:44:18 PM »
https://cointelegraph.com/news/industry-veterans-share-praise-skepticism-ethereum-dencun-upgrade-goes-live

Dencum went live today but from the article seems rather Bearish for Ethereum ETF in May and probably gets pushed back to later in the year.  Maybe thats good price should dip making it a nice buy opportunity.   Although i miss those $12 an ETH days.

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« Reply #10586 on: March 13, 2024, 05:45:40 PM »
But who cares what Elizabeth Warren thinks. Her one foot is already in the grave. She's an outdated corrupt politician. The BTC ETF is making money for the people that really control the US and own the politicians.

Gensler somewhat wants to be politically aligned with her, so she matters for the time being.

😂 a dog with a hat is 3.4B market cap….. a dog…. Wearing a hat…. But we aren’t Degen Gamblers 😂

Up x26 on that 8) It was the doge meta playing out again. To my eyes it would have been degen to fade something like that!

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« Reply #10587 on: March 13, 2024, 07:09:08 PM »
Gensler somewhat wants to be politically aligned with her, so she matters for the time being.

Up x26 on that 8) It was the doge meta playing out again. To my eyes it would have been degen to fade something like that!

Unleah your inner Degen lol, nicely done.

I see some circling the MSTR share price. Saylor had made it. He had beaten the market. He can claim the crown for King Degen and CEO of Bitcoin. So he celebrates with 700M in leverage lol. This guy is pretty awesome and I have to admit a good part of me wants him to pull this off now that he doubled down on his billions. 

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« Reply #10588 on: March 13, 2024, 07:29:19 PM »
Unleah your inner Degen lol, nicely done.

I see some circling the MSTR share price. Saylor had made it. He had beaten the market. He can claim the crown for King Degen and CEO of Bitcoin. So he celebrates with 700M in leverage lol. This guy is pretty awesome and I have to admit a good part of me wants him to pull this off now that he doubled down on his billions.

He basically found an infinite money glitch and him always buying at the tops all make sense now. It can't be long now before others start doing the same thing as him.

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« Reply #10589 on: March 14, 2024, 03:08:47 AM »
He basically found an infinite money glitch and him always buying at the tops all make sense now. It can't be long now before others start doing the same thing as him.

Interesting way of looking at it. I would characterise him (and indeed all of us Getbigger Bitcoiners) as having realized that as money is being devalued over time, we need to preserve it in fiat denominated assets, and that beyond property, gold, stocks, etc, Bitcoin is, for many reasons, the absolute best asset for this purpose. Many people are very familiar with the benefits of borrowing and leveraging to buy real-estate to preserve (and indeed to build) wealth. A smaller number are familiar with this concept applied to stocks. And an even smaller number still, with Bitcoin. But it's the same concept and theme, (or "glitch" as you call it, which applies throughout).

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« Reply #10590 on: March 14, 2024, 10:03:48 AM »
He basically found an infinite money glitch and him always buying at the tops all make sense now. It can't be long now before others start doing the same thing as him.

Correct, he is betting on the bottoms. His share price is effectively leveraged against Bitcoin at tops allowing him access to more funding to Degen. So he waited for the top now, dilutes the shares which are already leveraged in value vs Bitcoin then takes out 700M leverage on top to buy more Bitcoin.

His bet is his shareholders are fine with the bear market and a temporary -90% drop in share price.
It’s Tier 1 Degen stuff But then you see just how much fuckwittery is going on at MSTR.

He won. Victory was there for the taking. Now, running the gauntlet a second time, hopefully not clutching defeat from the claws of victory. It’s the main bad guy who has the main character as his feet but instead of Shooting he decides to give a run down of his brilliant plan, better pray he got the S&P right

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« Reply #10591 on: March 14, 2024, 10:11:13 AM »
what does a post 1 million bitcoin world look like? 2 classes of people? no coiners and bitcoiners? nocoiners work and slave, bitcoiners retire?

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« Reply #10592 on: March 14, 2024, 05:47:08 PM »
https://x.com/ki_young_ju/status/1767441447702413547?s=20

Could this trigger the blastoff?

Also we touched a new ATH today 73,845  and no one seems to care, futures are interesting too.  Seems like big dogs are selling the futures to suppress price and then buying up everything cheap, when they are done accumulating they'll unwind their shorts and squeeze the sucker shorts left at the table.

we might blast off to highs not even thought of, but hopefully we cross 150k maybe touch 300k for a hot minute.

Add in Michael Saylors infinite money glitch tapping the convertible bond market, if another big company emulates him its game over.

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« Reply #10593 on: March 14, 2024, 06:58:49 PM »
This date could be another potential catalyst for more upside momentum. We might find out if Bezos bought, if pension funds have been buying. If someone like Renaissance Technologies bought then the fomo from tradfi could be crazy. Pelosi, Burry, or Ryan Cohen buying would whip retail into a frenzy too.

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For everyone wondering "who is buying" bitcoin ETFs, I'd circle May 15th on your calendar.

Investors with more than $100m in AUM have to file reports with the SEC called "13-F Filings" disclosing their publicly traded holdings.

Those filings are due 45 days after the end of the calendar quarter. While they don't capture everyone -- and are just a snapshot in time -- I think some of the names on those filings will surprise people (to the upside).

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« Reply #10594 on: March 15, 2024, 04:58:30 AM »
This date could be another potential catalyst for more upside momentum. We might find out if Bezos bought, if pension funds have been buying. If someone like Renaissance Technologies bought then the fomo from tradfi could be crazy. Pelosi, Burry, or Ryan Cohen buying would whip retail into a frenzy too.

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For everyone wondering "who is buying" bitcoin ETFs, I'd circle May 15th on your calendar.

Investors with more than $100m in AUM have to file reports with the SEC called "13-F Filings" disclosing their publicly traded holdings.

Those filings are due 45 days after the end of the calendar quarter. While they don't capture everyone -- and are just a snapshot in time -- I think some of the names on those filings will surprise people (to the upside).

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Bitcoin Drops Below $69,000 Amid Heightened Risk, According to On-chain Data

Mar 15, 2024 07:39 EDT

https://www.tradingview.com/news/coinedition:8291e0f3e094b:0-bitcoin-drops-below-69-000-amid-heightened-risk-according-to-on-chain-data/


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« Reply #10596 on: March 15, 2024, 06:49:58 AM »
What's that got to do with my post  ???

Maybe I misunderstood this part and got my hopes up a little?

This date could be another potential catalyst for more upside momentum.

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« Reply #10597 on: March 15, 2024, 07:04:39 AM »
“Beware of the ides of March”

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« Reply #10598 on: March 15, 2024, 07:11:17 AM »
Maybe I misunderstood this part and got my hopes up a little?

The bolded date. May 15th.

Anyway ignore glassnode. On-chain analysts have a terrible track record on predicting things.

The price drops looks like leveraged long getting liquidated and later someone big getting liquidated on a short MSTR/long BTC trade

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« Reply #10599 on: March 15, 2024, 07:44:46 AM »
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