Training of the champions

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Most elite bodybuilders repeat the topic that basic heavy movements develop muscular mass. Many champions boast of the intensity of their trainings and the truth is that's what pictures transmit, showing them making faces, silently screaming or fighting against the free weights. But here I am to tell you not all that shine is gold.

Basic movements and intensity are, certainly, good training techniques, but most of the champions do not follow their own advices. The truth is the vast majority of elite bodybuilders do not perform heavy sessions (with low repetitions) neither particularly intense.

During the last years, I have trained at Gold's Gym of Venice (California, USA), known as the bodybuilding Mecca, and I have seen hundreds of the best amateur and professional bodybuilders training both off-season as before a competition. I'm sorry to shatter the myth, but only few reputed Venice's champions can demonstrate a great intensity and none of them perform basic heavy movements. From my point of view, people train more intensively in the authentic gyms all over the world than within Mecca's walls. This way, how do champions really train and why? The time to reveal the truth has come. Here you have it, exclusively for you.

All over the World, legs are developed based on squats. I have trained at gyms where the squats supports become sanctuaries. The heavy low-repetitions squat sets powerlifter style constitute more than the half of many routines. Bodybuilders protect their knees, smear their hands with magnesium, breathe ammonia nitrate and scream like animals, all in pursuit of huge quadriceps.

However, the squats supports in Venice's Gold's tend to be empty. There's no need to wait to use the four in existence. If not for the visitors and people who have just arrived to the south of California, in Venice legs would be hardly trained with free weights. In eight years, I have only seen one professional doing bar squats, Shawn Ray, with an impeccable technique and feet together during several sets of 12 repetitions with 142 kilos. Having made this exception and despite all that can be said, champions do not do squats.

What do they do for quadriceps? A concrete type of inclined press is the favourite destination. Most of the professionals pile up discs, but the number of repetitions is still moderate. Generally, they equally load both sides of the carriage with 20 kilos discs and, following, they pile up some more with strange positions. There are many champions who are members of the leg-press club with 450 kilos; Paul Dillett, Flex Wheeler, Craig Titus, Aaron Baker...Also, most of them handle between 225 and 275 kilos in the hack squat. Dillet and Wheeler prefer doing reverse hack squats, facing the machine, with feet separated and on the ground, not in the platform for the lower extremities. Titus, Robby Robinson and the company do them traditional style. The number of repetitions is moderate; the resting time, long.

All elite bodybuilders of Gold's Gym of Venice train femorals and quadriceps separately, in a posterior session in the same day or in another day. The most frequent routine: 4 sets of sitting legs curl and 4 of laying legs curl. They also work the calves in different moments (most likely, in the evening session) and, like almost every bodybuilder, use to exercise the lower part of the legs: in machines and with low or moderate repetitions.
In the same way, they train the back on apparatus almost exclusively. I have never seen an outstanding competitor from Venice's Gold's doing chin-ups or inclined bar rowing, the foundation of so many dorsal routines all over the world. When Charles Glass trained them, professionals like Paul Dillet or Flex Wheeler performed T-bar rowing, and Craig Titus tends to handle enough weight (about 80 kilos) in one-arm dumbbell rowing.

On contrary, back routines are composed by pulls with different grips, one machine with lever system, as well as rowing movements in several machines. Weights can seem high to the mortal's eyes (Dillet can move over 180 kilos in some rowing on machine movements), but if the number of repetitions is moderate, the intensity and the rhythm of the training are carefully controlled. The resting periods between sets are long. What about the authentic power movements: snatches or deadlifts? Forget it. The lower back is trained with low-repetitions hyperextension sets and the occasional work on a machine.

Professionals train chest with inclined presses and mechanical apparatus -press machines, pec-dek flies and pulleys. The best competitors love them. These machines are safe and outline the detail of pectorals which already present a remarkable size. The only non-mechanical exercise in which some champions pile up discs is the inclined bench press. Flex Wheeler, Chris Cormier and Craig Titus perform inclined bench press with around 140 and 180 kilos. Curtis Leffler goes even beyond. Paul Dillet and Mike Matarazzo are two of the professionals who workout with really heavy dumbbells -between 70 and 80 kilos. And what about the dumbbell flies, the bench press and the dips, pillars of the chest routine for so many amateurs? I have never seen any champion doing more than a couple of light sets of inclined flies, and this is an exceptional case. Regarding dips, conventional flies and the bench press, nothing. They don't do them.

The way elite bodybuilders train shoulders is more similar to the mid-level athletes way. A few champions, as Wheeler or Cormier, include the behind-nape bar press in their programs, generally around 100 kilos. Leffler surpasses the 140 in this motion (that is weight). Others do dumbbell press. Jim Quinn, Bill Smith, Lee Priest and Mike Matarazzo are among the one using really heavy dumbbells. Paul Dillet and Aaron Baker confine themselves to machines. Heavy weights can be considered a surprise in this case if we consider that shoulders are quite prone to injuries.

Professionals perform a variety of exercises with dumbbell, machines and pulley raises to workout the three heads of the deltoids. Dumbbell frontal raises, recommended by Charles Glass, are one of the Venice Gold's favourite movements. No one misses the posterior deltoid workout, which tends to be trained on machines. Most of advanced bodybuilders neither forget their trapezius. Machine shrugs are the kings on that sense. Lou Ferrigno prefers the upright rowing.

Arms are usually trained in the afternoon on the champion's divided routines. Since I am just a mortal who trains only once a day, I must admit I have seen less congested world-class mazes than any other part of the body. Nevertheless, I have seen enough to being able to generalize, since the routines of dozens of high-level bodybuilders have remarkable similarities.

They barely use bars to crush the arms. Dumbbells and mechanical machines are the tools of choice. Outstanding athletes train biceps mainly with sitting or inclined dumbbell curls and different machines. The preacher curl on pulley is one of Paul Dillett's favourites, among others.

Triceps are trained principally with pulley extensions, one-arm pulley extensions (behind head and sitting or crossing the chest and lying) and with machines.

I have seen Lee Priest and Mike Matarazzo using 30 kilos dumbbells in one-arm extensions behind head. Under the instructions of Charles Glass, a few champions perform relatively light bar triceps extensions occasionally. Matarazzo is the only champion I have seen training forearms regularily.

It is possible they give some time to abdominals along the year, maybe before acting as a guest poser or in a photo session, but most of the champions ignore these muscles out of season. However, before a competition, they crush them on different machines several times a week. Dillet is the unique champion I have seen working out obliques directly (with stick twists).

What does all this mean? In the first place, that the weights used by elite bodybuilders can be amazing. Doing 10 repetitions with 100 kilos or more on the behind-nape press or 10 repetitions with 500 kilos in the legs press it's serious business. In the second place, most of the champions do some free weights exercises, especially with dumbbells.

Having clarified these two facts, I have to say the truth is champions rarely complete sets with a number of repetitions lower than 10 and that these sets are, when performed intensively, the heavy component, not the weights. Moreover, there is no doubt the routine of a professional bodybuilder -at least of the one who trains in the south of California- consist on less basic movements than the staunch average bodybuilder. Most of the professionals don't do squats, bench press, dips, flies, chin-ups, inclined rowing, military press or bar curl, and this is a considerable list of exercises.

This doesn't mean that bodybuilding champions have not developed great part of it muscular mass using basic, intense and heavy movements based on free weights. Plenty of them have done thousands of bench presses and squats sets in their early years of training. There are three reasons to explain why they have turned their backs to them:
1. Heavy basic movements with free weights involve a higher risk of injury than the lighter exercises, mechanicals and meant to sculpt the muscle. People who make their living with their bodies have to reduce the possibility of injury to the minimum. A torn pectoral (as the one the bench press can cause) can disfigure a physique for ever, and there is evidence that steroids increase the probability of suffering tears and muscular cracks. Professional bodybuilders and the ones one step away from being professionals are conscious that they must keep away from injuries.
2. Elite bodybuilders usually have enough muscular mass in the zones the basic movements develop, perhaps for the years they spent doing these exercises. For instance, most of the professionals have wonderful lower pectorals. They don't need to do bench press neither dips. Instead of that, they need to develop the upper part of these muscles using inclined movements, sculpt them and keep what they already have by working on machines. This same principle can be applied to squats, which may cause an excessive development of the gluteus and the upper part of quadriceps. There are basic exercises than can be to much efficient and, therefore, damage the symmetry.
3. After gaining a considerable amount of muscle, many professionals agree that congestion and light movements get better results than heavy basic movements. You can move lots of blood in some 55cm biceps. Achieving congestion becomes an absorbent goal. There is no doubt that the improvements provided by steroids and other drugs also contribute to this passion for congestion.

Next question: why don't champions train as hard as the typical gym rat? Because they don't need to. The regular client of the local gym never gets the amount neither the quality of the muscle we find in a professional physique. Elite bodybuilders develop without problem. They don't need to vomit, pass out or risk an injury to grow up. These acts are not of their interest, specially when most of them follow a divided routine of two daily sessions, which means they go back to the gym a few hours after the first round and need more energies to perform the second training. Genetic and chemical advantages can stimulate the development capacity of one person with less intensity and fewer repetitions. The case is this approach works.

The most important question is the following: what does all this mean to the average bodybuilder, who struggles to reach the next level? Knowing that most of the champions -but not all of them- trained intensively when they set the foundations of their actual physique and that policy can be the best advantage for you. Each person is different. There is no reason to believe that a 76 kilos beginner should train in the same way to develop back than a world-class champion above the 100 kilos when the last one can separate the trapezius and dorsals from romboids.

It is possible that champions don't do efficient basic movements, but this doesn't mean that you should do the same. Train intensively, focus on compound movements and free weights to establish the base of your physique, complete relatively heavy sets occasionally (between 4 and 8 repetitions) and perhaps, if the rest of the factors are in order, you may become a professional bodybuilder. Then, you will be able to use most of your time on machines. Besides, it may be a good idea that professional bodybuilders say they do free weight exercises as if they were possessed, despite the truth would be different. Surely, with this approach they gained most of the muscle they have before entering the professional category, and it is likely the approach you should try out. Maybe it is better you think all champions do squats and bench press until their eyes fall from their orbits. Once again, faith moves mountains. Perhaps you should believe all that it's said.

[First Blood]

In this thread my goal is to collect first hand information about the real training of the pros.

[io856]

cliffs?

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cliffs?
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That the big boys at Gold's Gym in Venice did not do squats. They did leg extensions, leg presses and hack squats. Moderate amount of reps and no super intense training.

[DK II]

In this thread my goal is to collect first hand information about the real training of the pros.

Great!

But please don't put it in quotes, it's a pain in the ass to read.

[Nails]

So all this is your personal observation of pro bodybuilder at the gym the same time u were there too?

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Great!

But please don't put it in quotes, it's a pain in the ass to read.

Ok, will remember. 

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Paul Dillett

"Lets have it. For those of you who have witnessed a top bodybuilder train consistently, who takes the cake with the laziest and least intense training ever? For me the title goes to Paul Dillett. I had watched the man train in Gold's Venice for many years in the early-mid 90's for many shows. And Paul is by far the laziest and least intense pro bodybuilder I have ever witnessed. This man had genetics up the a*#. Light weights, tons of machine training, sets stopped way short of a strain, terribly long rest periods, and few sets. And cardio done on a treadmill at a pace slower than a 90 year old man. But that said, Paul was the freakiest looking bodybuilder I have ever seen in Golds during my many years in the gym. Nobody even comes close to what Paul looked like when pumped after a workout. Nobody."

[MikMaq]

Paul Dillett

"Lets have it. For those of you who have witnessed a top bodybuilder train consistently, who takes the cake with the laziest and least intense training ever? For me the title goes to Paul Dillett. I had watched the man train in Gold's Venice for many years in the early-mid 90's for many shows. And Paul is by far the laziest and least intense pro bodybuilder I have ever witnessed. This man had genetics up the a*#. Light weights, tons of machine training, sets stopped way short of a strain, terribly long rest periods, and few sets. And cardio done on a treadmill at a pace slower than a 90 year old man. But that said, Paul was the freakiest looking bodybuilder I have ever seen in Golds during my many years in the gym. Nobody even comes close to what Paul looked like when pumped after a workout. Nobody."

So basically the guy was smart enough to avoid any unwanted injuries .... like say a bicep tear

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"Sorry it took so long to respond.It would take me hours to write in detail about the workouts I witnessed by these guys.But I will start with one of them and if I have time later,I will move on to the next. We will discuss Paul Dillett.Paul no longer trains at Venice Golds.But he did for many years in the early 90's. The workout specifics I will mention were the same precontest as well as off season.I witnessed such workouts many,many times over by him.Sometimes a different but similar machine would be used but no often.And maybe I am off by a rep or 2.maybe a plate or 2. But,here we go: This was an entire delt workout for Paul.  Icarian machine shoulder presses 3 sets of approx.10-15 reps.Using 1/4th of the entire stack.Then he would do 3 sets of dumbell side laterals with 17lb.dumbells for 10-15 reps.At this point Paul would always remove his massive sweatshirt to reveal the biggest and freakiest delts on the planet.Everybody in Golds that was around would just stare at the man. He would the move on to barbell upright rows with a prefixed 55lb.EZ curl bar.Same thing 3 sets of 10-15 reps. That was all he ever did for his delts. He would'nt come even close to any type of exhaustion. And he would take about 45 monutes to get through this ordeal.And many times he would go outside to the parking lot to make or take a phone call.  For calves I never saw him do anything except 5 sets of 10-15 reps on the upright sliding plate load calf raise(where you grip the handles next to your thighs.) No forearm work.  Arm workouts were always supersetted. Biceps and triceps together. Same 2 machines always.Icarian seated tricep extension machine and Icarian seated preacher curl machine.1/3rd of the stack on both.10 sets max of 10-15 reps. Sometimes he would finish off with one arm reverse pulldowns for 3 sets.(sometimes holding a cell phone in one arm and talking,NO JOKE) .Quads were Leg presses and leg extension.Then one legged upright leg curls. 5 sets each 10-15 reps.5-6 plates on each side of the leg press. Chest was always a plate loaded upright flex machine or the same type of Hammer strength machine.5 sets of 10-15 reps 2 plates on each side,180lbs total.Then he would move on to cable crossovers for 5 sets of high reps with 1/2 the stack.  Back was front pulldowns for 5 sets with 1/2 the stack,10-15 reps and always the cybex seated row machine,1/2 stack 5 sets 10-15 reps. Then some hypers. I never saw him do any ab work. He would then go up to the cardio balcony and sit next to Flex Wheeler(if around) and the 2 of them would do the easiest 60 monutes of zero tension slow revolution lifecycling  on the planet.He would also drink 2 large bulk force drinks while doing the cardio.This may all sound unbelievable,but I swear to you that it is all true to the best of my memory. And I am sure that there are other Golds ,Venice guys n this site that remember exactly what i am talking about. Next time I will move on to Strydom. He is very similar to Dillett with his routine.  Until the next time."

[Wiggs]

Dude, paragraphs....please.

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Freddy Ortiz

"as i said before when i was running a gym in nyc freddie used to work out there ,in fact i was talking about freddie with my old training partner who became very fiendly with freddie ,frieddie used to go to his house and we would sit around and relax,any way my friend and i were talking the other day about how freddie was a genius ,cause this is how i remeber how he worked out ,most of the time ,all i ever saw him do mostly was ,he would do weighted dips ,on a dipping bar ,then he would do wide grip chins to the upper chest  with weight hanging from his waist ,then he would do chins with a close grip,again to his chest ,then he would do seated slight incline dumbell curls ,but he would bring them up sort of like on a 45% angel to his chest ,and that was it ,i dont remember him doing any dirct triceps exercises or any thing else he had great form and very steady sort of slow rythem ,and then he would leave ,thats it ,i only saw him once do a bench press ,.well of course me and my friend at that time used to say freddie is screwing with our heads cause we certainly believed he would go to another gym and work out more,how could he look like the way he looked and be like that on so little training since the fad dureing those days was lots of sets ,i myself used to train my arms for over an hour each time ,i ws doing 30sets of arm work ,and everyone else was training like us so he coulnt possably be training that way well when we got to hang out with him we questioned hima few times about he must train more in another gym and he said everybody thinks he has a secrete,but the way we see him train is really the way he trains ,so the other day when i was talking to my training partner in the park we got to talking about freddie and how he was doing and we got to talk about his training routine,if you anylise what he did he was a genuise ,for one thing he found out the right combonation for training the least amount for the biggest gains ,and if you anyalise what he did he worked every muscle in his upper body with that routine ,it was brillant ,and he did not do alot of sets ,that routine pumps your whole upper body ,and when he would be backstage at a contest evryone else was doing  aRM WORK AND LAT WORK PUMPING UP ,FREEDIE WOULD JUST DO SOME  EASY pushups between two chairs and that was it ,and i tell you when he came in the gym to workout he was huge ,he was vey short ,he had veins and seperation and he was one of the first ones to develope split biceps ,his lats were huge also ,with an unbelivable small waist ,he seemed to be in contest shape all year round ,he never got fat and what was more surprising was whenever we hung out with him he did not eat big,a tue freak of nature (and i mean that in a good sense)and over the years he got bigger ,dureing those years at his peak i would say except for sergio, freddie had the biggest shoulder to waist deferrental at that time ,he had one of the best upper bodies,maybe one of the top three  "

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"he never trained legs ,only one time he trained legs, i dont remeber for what contest ,but he trained them for a while,and he hated it ,that was the only time i seen him train legs,he was known for his upper body and when he went on stage being from porti reican descent all the bros of hispanic descent would start chanting and hitting their chairs up and down which would make a loud noise,chanting freedie, freddie, this was before he came on stage which sometimes would disrupt the contest ,and then finally he would come on stage and the crowd went wild ,it was something to behold,since he represented the hispanics and at that time he had one of the best upper bodyies in the world ,of course everyone else would get caught up in the excitment and also would join in with the chanting ,he is the only one they wanted to see ,this was in manhatten at the old movie theater (i cant remeber the name ) but they would stage a lot of contests there ,actually if he trained his legs he would of won more contests ,but no one seemed to care they just wanted to see that upper body,and he trained the way i said ,he would train where i was running the gym and he liked going to the old mid city also,he also was a master at poseing ,and when he finished his routine the crowd went crazy and he would have to keep poseing some more ,yes he would train his whole upper body,and he would come about three times a week ,sometimes he would go to mid city ,if you read in one of the other forums on this site ,one of the members saw his son (which i did not know he had)come in and train the same way as his dad and the member said he was quite big,the other thing i just remebered is he developed the technique of being able to a do a vacum to his waist which made him look like he had no waist"