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Title: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: anabolichalo on December 16, 2013, 02:31:26 PM
i went from 500 to 150, second week now

i wonder what to expect
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 16, 2013, 03:15:02 PM
Still well above physiological doses
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: dustin on December 16, 2013, 03:31:23 PM
Still well above physiological doses

Yeah. And another thing too is that when you inject, even when you end up within normal test ranges the exogenous test feels a bit stronger. I think part of it is psychological, but I think also biological.

I'm almost always on just a generous TRT style cycle with small blasts, but I think it's harder to become catabolic versus being on nothing at all.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: anabolichalo on December 16, 2013, 03:37:16 PM
Still well above physiological doses
what would be physiological dose?

75mg?

thanks
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 16, 2013, 03:38:35 PM
what would be physiological dose?

75mg?

thanks

I've read that a make produces like 5-10mgs a day. Some say 12mgs.

Correct me If you've heard otherwise bros.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: the trainer on December 16, 2013, 03:44:06 PM
i went from 500 to 150, second week now

i wonder what to expect

Anything below 500 is a waste of time, are you having money problems why you cannot do a 500 mg dose.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: anabolichalo on December 16, 2013, 03:45:41 PM
Anything below 500 is a waste of time, are you having money problems why you cannot do a 500 mg dose.
just giving my hair follicles a break for 8 weeks or so


then 750mg i think


my hairloss guru says 750 is a good starting dose, anything below that is delusional wishful thinking
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: ESFitness on December 16, 2013, 03:46:49 PM
i went from 500 to 150, second week now

i wonder what to expect

your sex drive will go up next week.. you'll gain a little bodyfat if you don't change your macro's/kcal count.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: anabolichalo on December 16, 2013, 03:48:22 PM
your sex drive will go up next week.. you'll gain a little bodyfat if you don't change your macro's/kcal count.
should i stop arimidex?...

i've been using 0.5grams twice a week  when i was on 500mg test per week and 5grams finasteride per day
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: ESFitness on December 16, 2013, 03:54:44 PM
should i stop arimidex?...

i've been using 0.5grams twice a week  when i was on 500mg test per week and 5grams finasteride per day

nah.. should be fine
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 16, 2013, 05:14:14 PM
your sex drive will go up next week.. you'll gain a little bodyfat if you don't change your macro's/kcal count.

Why would sex drive go down with more test?
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 16, 2013, 06:48:19 PM
just giving my hair follicles a break for 8 weeks or so


then 750mg i think


my hairloss guru says 750 is a good starting dose, anything below that is delusional wishful thinking
You are going bald it doesnt make a shit just do all you want. No cure for bald.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: ESFitness on December 16, 2013, 07:12:51 PM
Why would sex drive go down with more test?

not that it goes down (although it sometimes does...), but when dropping your dose (or go off completely), sex drive tends to go up. why? I dunno... I'd guess it has to do with estrogen and whatnot.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: galeniko on December 16, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
not that it goes down (although it sometimes does...), but when dropping your dose (or go off completely), sex drive tends to go up. why? I dunno... I'd guess it has to do with estrogen and whatnot.
yes, its weird too high test and goes down, and when reducing it goes up for no reason,weird.

as for 150weekly,well, its still better than nothing, slightly, but is borderline pointless dosage.

if a natty asked to do this or stay natty, is better to stay natural.

100-150weekly really is shutting oneself down for almost nothing.

Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 16, 2013, 07:22:13 PM
I just got my blood work back this morning.  Had it drawn Friday.  I am clean.  (My cycles run April, May, June of each year).

My test now is 905.  When I am on 300mg of test weekly it gets up to 2800-3200 (depending on how soon I have the blood test done to my last injection).  Most people with low test go from the 100s to about 1200-1400 on 200mg weekly. 

So I am going to guess that 150mg weekly will put you up around the 1000-1100 mark. 

What is your E2 right now?
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 16, 2013, 07:26:47 PM
i went from 500 to 150, second week now

i wonder what to expect
What pro show are you hitting this year dawg? Is it worth hair loss and a couple of dollars.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: galeniko on December 16, 2013, 08:03:42 PM
Anabolic have you ever thought about long term gear usage and scar tissue buildup?
this can bvecome an issue on even only 1 weekly shot


makes me wonder how the fuck the guys and girls who run short ester all year long
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: dyslexic on December 16, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
this can bvecome an issue on even only 1 weekly shot


makes me wonder how the fuck the guys and girls who run short ester all year long


Multiple (as in nearly every spot you can imagine) alternate injection sites. If they ain't writing shit down as to when and where they are injecting... well, there could be an "ouch-fuck" factor now and again ~

Now with the popularity of Test Ace, Tren, Masteron and all the other fast water-based shit it does make you wonder.

I don't know how many other people here look as closely as I do at the shots of the competitors on the stage's pics when they come out in the mags, but you can see the bolus' etc., injection sites.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: galeniko on December 16, 2013, 08:39:09 PM

Multiple (as in nearly every spot you can imagine) alternate injection sites. If they ain't writing shit down as to when and where they are injecting... well, there could be an "ouch-fuck" factor now and again ~

Now with the popularity of Test Ace, Tren, Masteron and all the other fast water-based shit it does make you wonder.

I don't know how many other people here look as closely as I do at the shots of the competitors on the stage's pics when they come out in the mags, but you can see the bolus' etc., injection sites.
yah and it really does become painful after a while.

haha i too look out for the gh injection spots on the competitors,lol
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: ESFitness on December 16, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
I just got my blood work back this morning.  Had it drawn Friday.  I am clean.  (My cycles run April, May, June of each year).

My test now is 905.  When I am on 300mg of test weekly it gets up to 2800-3200 (depending on how soon I have the blood test done to my last injection).  Most people with low test go from the 100s to about 1200-1400 on 200mg weekly

So I am going to guess that 150mg weekly will put you up around the 1000-1100 mark. 

What is your E2 right now?

my natural test is sub-100. lol... about 2 days post injection (200mg cyp) my test is 1400. 7 days post injection I'm at around 800. that's with 200mg every 2 weeks.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 16, 2013, 09:05:26 PM
this can bvecome an issue on even only 1 weekly shot


makes me wonder how the fuck the guys and girls who run short ester all year long

Bro what do u think about SubQ shots?
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: galeniko on December 16, 2013, 09:08:21 PM
Bro what do u think about SubQ shots?
dont like them, the gh and mt2 always left lumps like small volcanos are under the skin.

and dont know, if the packaging of the stuf says IM ,it kinda makes sense to do so.my hrt doc uses huge huge needle :D
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 16, 2013, 09:10:00 PM
dont like them, the gh and mt2 always left lumps like small volcanos are under the skin.

and dont know, if the packaging of the stuf says IM ,it kinda makes sense to do so.my hrt doc uses huge huge needle :D

I've done hundreds of peptides shots SubQ with almost zero lumps.

I'm seriously considering doing my TRT sub a though. I made a thread on the gear board
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: galeniko on December 16, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
I've done hundreds of peptides shots SubQ with almost zero lumps.

I'm seriously considering doing my TRT sub a though. I made a thread on the gear board
ill check that out thx.

yah the lumps seemed to be dependent on how much water was mixed in, but i do neither gh nor mt2 nomore, all good.

some these lumps just wouldnt go away for many days.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: ESFitness on December 16, 2013, 11:08:20 PM
I've done hundreds of peptides shots SubQ with almost zero lumps.

I'm seriously considering doing my TRT sub a though. I made a thread on the gear board

I've done some pep shots subq and gotten lumps that stayed for a couple days. lol.. usually igf1
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: macos on December 17, 2013, 02:51:22 AM
TRT is 250mgsustanon every 21 days.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: nukkaready on December 17, 2013, 05:03:42 AM
Once you start shooting 1g of REAL testosterone per week the magic starts to happen and your muscles will literally get fuller and bigger in front of your eyes.

Add to that 4iu of REAL gh per day and you'll stay lean with veins in your abs while growing.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 17, 2013, 06:07:01 AM
Some docs here in South FL actually advocate SQ shots for their TRT.  Just remember to not go over .5ml with it or the lump will be visible and painful.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 17, 2013, 07:44:30 AM
Million dollar question: will hormone levels be comparable to doing IM shots vs sub q shots?
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 17, 2013, 07:58:16 AM
Yes.  There is really no difference in the IM and SQ to me.  People claim that IM is a bit faster.  Bullshit.  Shoot a bit of MT2 SQ and see how fast it makes you queasy in the stomach. 
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 17, 2013, 08:00:42 AM
P.S.  There is a terrific thread on PM by the physician related to geardoc that covers many of the topics on this board.    He is a legitimate MD with a very strong background in our hobby.  His brother in law is a friend of mine. 
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 17, 2013, 09:36:19 AM
P.S.  There is a terrific thread on PM by the physician related to geardoc that covers many of the topics on this board.    He is a legitimate MD with a very strong background in our hobby.  His brother in law is a friend of mine. 

Will check it out, thanks LNM!
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: anabolichalo on December 17, 2013, 09:37:08 AM
seems like i have less energy now


maybe unrelated
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 17, 2013, 09:43:55 AM
Million dollar question: will hormone levels be comparable to doing IM shots vs sub q shots?

YES.  I do these for all of my TRT shots and my levels are the same as when I did IM.  I get checked every 3 months and they are the same as before. 
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 17, 2013, 09:46:22 AM
YES.  I do these for all of my TRT shots and my levels are the same as when I did IM.  I get checked every 3 months and they are the same as before. 

Thanks bro  8)

I'm def switching.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: anabolichalo on December 17, 2013, 09:48:46 AM
lmao @ dago joe's signature under his avatar
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 17, 2013, 09:51:27 AM
lmao @ dago joe's signature under his avatar
That is my tribute to you my friend  :D
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: galeniko on December 17, 2013, 09:55:16 AM
P.S.  There is a terrific thread on PM by the physician related to geardoc that covers many of the topics on this board.    He is a legitimate MD with a very strong background in our hobby.  His brother in law is a friend of mine. 
link?
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: vascsurgeon on December 17, 2013, 10:28:00 AM
Million dollar question: will hormone levels be comparable to doing IM shots vs sub q shots?

Absolutely the same, use longer needle for IM, sub q maybe up to .7 in in spot. You need a little body fat for sub q, once you get lean I would switch, difficult to pinch belly or fat on the lateral aspect of your abs as you get harder   lol
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 17, 2013, 10:29:20 AM
Absolutely the same, use longer needle for IM, sub q maybe up to .7 in in spot. You need a little body fat for sub q, once you get lean I would switch, difficult to pinch belly or fat on the lateral aspect of your abs as you get harder   lol

Thanks doc!!
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: BigRo on December 17, 2013, 10:39:49 AM
seems like i have less energy now


maybe unrelated

how much debatching per week do you do with your hand on average?
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on December 17, 2013, 12:29:13 PM
how much debatching per week do you do with your hand on average?

I have a feeling Anabolichalo is wreck less in this area.
Title: Re: how does 150mg test e compare to natural levels?
Post by: Overload on December 23, 2013, 04:49:17 PM
I think 100mg a week is about normal levels in most people.

When i cruise i shoot 200mg of Test C every 10 days.


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