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Title: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 04, 2014, 11:10:42 PM
So, now that Russia may have blown a plane with 23 americans out of the sky...

Will repubs still line up to praise him 24/7 as they did before?




GIULIANI: Putin decides what he wants to do and he does it in half a day, right? He decided he had to go to their parliament. He went to their parliament. He got permission in 15 minutes.

CAVUTO: Well, that was kind of like perfunctory.

GIULIANI: But he makes a decision and he executes it, quickly. Then everybody reacts. That’s what you call a leader. President Obama, he’s got to think about it. He’s got to go over it again. He’s got to talk to more people about it.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 05, 2014, 03:30:47 AM
For once, Rudy is right.

Putin = Leader
Obama = Sock Puppet
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 05, 2014, 04:03:30 AM
Just, wow.   



GIULIANI: Putin decides what he wants to do and he does it in half a day, right? He decided he had to go to their parliament. He went to their parliament. He got permission in 15 minutes.

CAVUTO: Well, that was kind of like perfunctory.

GIULIANI: But he makes a decision and he executes it, quickly. Then everybody reacts. That’s what you call a leader. President Obama, he’s got to think about it. He’s got to go over it again. He’s got to talk to more people about it.

Do you seriously think that our Congress would act in 15 minutes???

BTW...Giuliani is a moron.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: dario73 on March 05, 2014, 05:14:02 AM
Do you seriously think that our Congress would act in 15 minutes???

It takes less time for the clowninthewhitehouse to issue an executive order to violate his own crapcare law.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 05, 2014, 05:32:33 AM
Does this add weight to the theory that conservatives have a fascination with authoritarianism?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: dario73 on March 05, 2014, 05:38:24 AM
Does this add weight to the theory that conservatives have a fascination with authoritarianism?

No.

They are criticizing Obama's incompetence and lack of foresight.

He laughed at Romney for Mitt indicating that Russia is America's geo-political foe.

Now that he is faced with this situation, the "smartest" president of our lifetime, HEHEHEHEHE, is running around like a chicken with its head cut off. AMATEUR!
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 05, 2014, 06:03:04 AM
Kinda screwed up how everybody is giving kudos to Pooty Poot. But then again, the "I have a pen and a phone" comment from Oblamey was making it out like he was going to do some leading...other than spending $$ we don't have that is.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2014, 06:45:52 AM
imagine the backlash if Obama demanded Congress pass his war resolution bill in 15 minutes.

Would Rudy be cheering for Obama if he decided to give Congress 15 minutes to pass his new amnesty or gun control bill?

The USA is awesome because one lone leader cannot just act as a dictator and start WWIII on a whim - Our founding fathers didn't want a President being able to act in 15 minutes, and get our military entangled in a civil war on the other side of the world because the leader feels like it.

I would seriously FEAR a country where a leader could start a war - specifically, commit military to a civil war in another country with oil/nato/cold war implications - in as much time as it takes to save 15% on my car insurance. 



I seriously fear any leader - Rudy in this case - that admires the de facto dictatorship enjoyed in Russia.  Maybe a President Rudy would be that kinda president, just like Putin, and toss the Constitution out the window.  Shaking my head.  All of you high fiving Rudy here... think about it... Do you want Obama to be able to commit troops and initial Cold War II inside of 15 minutes?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2014, 06:54:55 AM

GIULIANI: Putin decides what he wants to do and he does it in half a day, right? He decided he had to go to their parliament. He went to their parliament. He got permission in 15 minutes.

CAVUTO: Well, that was kind of like perfunctory. Dictionary.com: hasty and superficial.

GIULIANI: But he makes a decision and he executes it, quickly. Then everybody reacts. That’s what you call a leader. President Obama, he’s got to think about it. He’s got to go over it again. He’s got to talk to more people about it.

Even the FOX host points out that the decision was hasty and superficial.  

Rudy obviously doesn't understand the word.  He condemns obama because, and I quote, "President Obama, he’s got to think about it. He’s got to go over it again. He’s got to talk to more people about it."

RUDY has the audacity to condemn the leader of the free world for.... drum roll please... taking the time to THINK about a decision and CONSULTING with people around him before making a decision.

Very rarely do I get emotional about a thread on getbig these days, but seriously, Rudy is praising what is essentially a hasty decision made by one man and bullied thru parliament without consulting anyone.

You just remember this - the next time obama reacts in 12 minutes to an impulse and enacts an executive order that puts our troops in harms way or spends billions of dollars.  Even the FOX host is smart enough to know it's dangerous.  But not RUDY, and not his team of getbiggers who admire a "real leader" that doesn't consult others, carefully weigh options, or even ask Congress for permission.  Unreal.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Option D on March 05, 2014, 07:11:57 AM
boy we can play the politics game anytime cant we...shit....were just talking about another possible war..but who gives a shit, we aint goin so pundit away....


This shit makes me sick
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Dos Equis on March 05, 2014, 07:52:49 AM
He's right. 
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: headhuntersix on March 05, 2014, 07:53:12 AM
Do you seriously think that our Congress would act in 15 minutes???

BTW...Giuliani is a moron.

If Obama had wanted to do something in Syria...right or wrong the Repubs were prepared to support him because they believe in supporting the President as commander in chief. Many were not happy but at the end of the day they would have cobbled together enough votes. Obama doesn't lead on anything...he barely made a case for obamacare and they're walking that back now. He hated having to deal with Afghanistan.....he could have pulled out a few years ago. Instead we got this bullshit slow bleed drone strategy that's gotten people killed with no tangible results. He's a pansy
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: mass243 on March 05, 2014, 07:54:05 AM

Very rarely do I get emotional about a thread on getbig these days, but seriously, Rudy is praising what is essentially a hasty decision made by one man and bullied thru parliament without consulting anyone.



That is complete BS for sure.
Putin might have helluva lot of power but he has advisers, ideologists and generals around him. He doesn't make that kind of decision alone FFS. It's retarded to even suggest that.
He has consulted intelligence (most likely numerous intelligence service branches), military commanders (of different branches of armed forces), diplomats, financial advisers etc.

Now, what is lacked in Russia is political discourse, you are right about that.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2014, 07:57:33 AM
Do you seriously think that our Congress would act in 15 minutes???

BTW...Giuliani is a moron.

Vince, I like you. But your knee padding Obama is pathetic. Giuliani is dead on. Putin didn't even think twice about pulling this bullshit when Bush was in. Are you kidding me??
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2014, 08:01:26 AM
I guess we'll have to bump this thread the next time Obama decides to think about an issue for "half a day" then bully it through congress in 15 minutes.

That's what a "real leader" does.  

Real leaders don't do the following things, according to Rudy: "he’s got to think about it. He’s got to go over it again. He’s got to talk to more people about it."

Any decision to enter Cold War II should be made in half a day, and pushed through congress in 15 minutes.  Gotcha.  Just like Rudy said.  Read his words.  The next time Obama does that... the next time he says "Pass the bill so you can read it", let's just chalk that up to him being a good leader, okay?  No sense spending more than half a day chewing on entering a foreign civil war.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: headhuntersix on March 05, 2014, 08:02:09 AM

That is complete BS for sure.
Putin might have helluva lot of power but he has advisers, ideologists and generals around him. He doesn't make that kind of decision alone FFS. It's retarded to even suggest that.
He has consulted intelligence (most likely numerous intelligence service branches), military commanders (of different branches of armed forces), diplomats, financial advisers etc.

Now, what is lacked in Russia is political discourse, you are right about that.

He wields a hell of a lot more direct authority then in most Western governments. But like Putin, Obama does have the power to do some short term things. He could order the full mobilizations and deployment of the 173rd in Italy to forward bases in Poland. he could mobilize what Styker capability we have left in Germany to begin movement East to staging area's in the Baltic. He could reroute a carrier to that area along with sending stateside air wings to Germany. It's easier for Obama to do this then even the sanctions that most are suggesting.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2014, 08:03:30 AM
I don't claim obama has the right answers on Ukraine, and from what I gather on getbig, most of yall (except HH6) have zero clue what you would do... other than, "obama sucks!".     HH6 seems to be the only one with any ideas for solving the current crisis.

My beef is with everyone giving Putin love, because he makes a MAJOR decision in half a day and pushes it through parliament in 15 minutes.  YOU make sure you call obama a great leader the next time he puts US boots on the ground, without asking Congress what they think.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 05, 2014, 08:05:24 AM
I guess we'll have to bump this thread the next time Obama decides to think about an issue for "half a day" then bully it through congress in 15 minutes.

That's what a "real leader" does.  

Real leaders don't do the following things, according to Rudy: "he’s got to think about it. He’s got to go over it again. He’s got to talk to more people about it."

Any decision to enter Cold War II should be made in half a day, and pushed through congress in 15 minutes.  Gotcha.  Just like Rudy said.  Read his words.  The next time Obama does that... the next time he says "Pass the bill so you can read it", let's just chalk that up to him being a good leader, okay?  No sense spending more than half a day chewing on entering a foreign civil war.

He only "works" a half a day. He might think about something for about 15-20min.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: headhuntersix on March 05, 2014, 08:05:45 AM
I guess we'll have to bump this thread the next time Obama decides to think about an issue for "half a day" then bully it through congress in 15 minutes.

That's what a "real leader" does.  

Real leaders don't do the following things, according to Rudy: "he’s got to think about it. He’s got to go over it again. He’s got to talk to more people about it."

Any decision to enter Cold War II should be made in half a day, and pushed through congress in 15 minutes.  Gotcha.  Just like Rudy said.  Read his words.  The next time Obama does that... the next time he says "Pass the bill so you can read it", let's just chalk that up to him being a good leader, okay?  No sense spending more than half a day chewing on entering a foreign civil war.


240 gimme a break....Obama has never acted decisively  on anything on other then whether he should use his wedge or putter. He could do plenty without breaking sweat.


I do have a huge issue with anybody left or right publically slobbering over this guy...HE WAS KGB....K...G....B
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Necrosis on March 05, 2014, 08:26:01 AM
Do you seriously think that our Congress would act in 15 minutes???

BTW...Giuliani is a moron.

I know right, like russia and the US are the same political climate. Absolutely absurd comparsion. Hitler was a leader, everyone reacted, he acted and didn't even need 15 minutes to make a decision. nor did he wait for anyone else, that's a leader right?


What I see is a person making quick rash decisions versus someone who takes a measured approach. I will take the later.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Option D on March 05, 2014, 08:31:46 AM
Vince, I like you. But your knee padding Obama is pathetic. Giuliani is dead on. Putin didn't even think twice about pulling this bullshit when Bush was in. Are you kidding me??
Georgia?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: headhuntersix on March 05, 2014, 08:38:22 AM
Hitler was a poor leader...he could, however make a great speech. Like Obama, Hitler had pretty good subject matter experts. But like Obama, he doesn't listen to them very much. There is a laundry list of things that can be decided very quickly to send a message to Putin. The flash to bang time to make these decisions is small or they have no affect. In order to prevent Russian airborne troops seizing Kiev, you kind of need to send a message that such actions isn't a good idea. Once tanks are rolling into the rest of the Ukraine, your measured approach won't matter and we are then holding our breath for the next action. You don't think the Chinese are watching this...NK...Iran.

In Georgia Putin did challenge Bush. He also felt that based on what we did in Iraq he could get away with it. Bush responded with two naval frigates and we beefed up military support to the Georgian Army once the Russians pulled back. Russia learned a few things from that. They learned that on a limited and measured basis they can do what they want in their former backyard...and that when small Western trained units come up against their forces..the Russians don't do very well. I want to see if they've fixed their issues since 2008.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: blacken700 on March 05, 2014, 08:46:34 AM
Georgia?

Coach is probably a nice enough guy but has that i hate obama so much that sometimes he doesn't see everything
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2014, 08:53:04 AM
I can see criticizing obama, that's cool.

But to rain all these props & praise on Putin, right as we're on the edge of cold war 2?

Reminds me of the people posting "WINNING" with kadaffi... the dude was a terrorist that killed americans... but somehow people equated worshipping/praising him with dissing obama.  Hey, it's possible to diss hitler without kneepadding mussolini, folks.  I suppose if we enter WWIII, Rudy will continue his praise for such a "great leader" in Putin, even as the nukes fall on us, huh?   Unbelievable. 
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: blacken700 on March 05, 2014, 09:07:34 AM
I'm actually ssurprised that rudy could say that without mentioning 911
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Straw Man on March 05, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
Just, wow.   



GIULIANI: Putin decides what he wants to do and he does it in half a day, right? He decided he had to go to their parliament. He went to their parliament. He got permission in 15 minutes.

CAVUTO: Well, that was kind of like perfunctory.

GIULIANI: But he makes a decision and he executes it, quickly. Then everybody reacts. That’s what you call a leader. President Obama, he’s got to think about it. He’s got to go over it again. He’s got to talk to more people about it.

Republicans love dictators and quasi dictators

It's what they wish they could do  in this country
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: alabama ftw on March 05, 2014, 10:00:57 AM
I can see criticizing obama, that's cool.

But to rain all these props & praise on Putin, right as we're on the edge of cold war 2?

Reminds me of the people posting "WINNING" with kadaffi... the dude was a terrorist that killed americans... but somehow people equated worshipping/praising him with dissing obama.  Hey, it's possible to diss hitler without kneepadding mussolini, folks.  I suppose if we enter WWIII, Rudy will continue his praise for such a "great leader" in Putin, even as the nukes fall on us, huh?   Unbelievable. 
Great post!



Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: alabama ftw on March 05, 2014, 10:02:02 AM
Republicans love dictators and quasi dictators

It's what they wish they could do  in this country
Why do idiots like coach love dictators or semi-dictators so much?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: alabama ftw on March 05, 2014, 10:05:24 AM
Georgia?
Did you expect coach to know that? ;D
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Straw Man on March 05, 2014, 10:07:09 AM
Why do idiots like coach love dictators or semi-dictators so much?

probably because they are weak minded and crave domination by a overbearing male authority figure

partially the same reason why they are fundie's
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Necrosis on March 05, 2014, 10:08:11 AM
probably because they are weak minded and crave domination by a overbearing male authority figure

partially the same reason why they are fundie's

weak minded,need to be lead
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 05, 2014, 10:12:30 AM
probably because they are weak minded and crave domination by a overbearing male authority figure

partially the same reason why they are fundie's

Isn't the view held by the left that the government should be involved in most areas of a persons life a bit patriarchal as well? Or is it matriarchal?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Straw Man on March 05, 2014, 10:18:25 AM
Isn't the view held by the left that the government should be involved in most areas of a persons life a bit patriarchal as well? Or is it matriarchal?

not even close but I know Repubs like to frame things that way
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 05, 2014, 10:20:04 AM
not even close but I know Repubs like to frame things that way

I have to disagree.    And  I'm not a republican.  Never voted republican in my life.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: OzmO on March 05, 2014, 10:23:01 AM
Vince, I like you. But your knee padding Obama is pathetic. Giuliani is dead on. Putin didn't even think twice about pulling this bullshit when Bush was in. Are you kidding me??

You mean like Georgia in 2008?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: blacken700 on March 05, 2014, 10:27:17 AM
You mean like Georgia in 2008?

palin didn't have a problem with putin in Georgia just as long as he stayed out of Alabama  ;D
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Straw Man on March 05, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
I have to disagree.    And  I'm not a republican.  Never voted republican in my life.

everyone is entitled to their own opinion
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 05, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
palin didn't have a problem with putin in Georgia just as long as he stayed out of Alabama  ;D

"I can see Atlanta from my house"
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 05, 2014, 05:29:01 PM
Georgia?

If you'll recall, the U.S put the Georgians up to attacking a Russian province a few years ago.  The U.S went in, trained the Georgian Army, equipped them, and set them loose, and the Russians wiped them out in two or three hours.


Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: whork on March 06, 2014, 03:13:26 AM
Why do idiots like coach love dictators or semi-dictators so much?


They need someone to look up to. A role model. They have the intelligence and thoughts of an adolescent.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: whork on March 06, 2014, 03:16:31 AM
Isn't the view held by the left that the government should be involved in most areas of a persons life a bit patriarchal as well? Or is it matriarchal?

Nope its only if you head is buried in conservative propaganda you think that.


Free marriage, right to choose, drugs etc..

Its republicans WHO wants to interfere in peoples lives.

The only time repub wants government out of peoples lives is when they need an argument to help coorporations fill shit in your food and polute your Water and food.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 06, 2014, 03:55:02 AM
Why do idiots like coach love dictators or semi-dictators so much?

Last time I checked, Putin was elected.  It's common practice on the part of the West to refer to Putin as a dictator to try invalidate his position in office.  I guess the elections in the West are completely free of any fraud?  Florida anyone?  If Putin is a dictator, what do you call "Mr. Executive Order", Barrack Obama?  The man who brought you the National Defense Authorization Act.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Hugo Chavez on March 06, 2014, 04:30:52 AM
Last time I checked, Putin was elected.  It's common practice on the part of the West to refer to Putin as a dictator to try invalidate his position in office.  I guess the elections in the West are completely free of any fraud?  Florida anyone?  If Putin is a dictator, what do you call "Mr. Executive Order", Barrack Obama?  The man who brought you the National Defense Authorization Act.
And fucking priceless is McCain meeting with freaking actual Nazis in Ukraine, people who actually have met with and commemorate the old generation of German Nazis and those same "Neo" Nazis playing a major part in what just went down at our behest but Putin is the one we're comparing to Hitler lolololol....  Fucking Bigtime... LOLOLOLOL... WTF....?? ??
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Necrosis on March 06, 2014, 05:49:57 AM
Last time I checked, Putin was elected.  It's common practice on the part of the West to refer to Putin as a dictator to try invalidate his position in office.  I guess the elections in the West are completely free of any fraud?  Florida anyone?  If Putin is a dictator, what do you call "Mr. Executive Order", Barrack Obama?  The man who brought you the National Defense Authorization Act.

There is absolutely no comparison between the two. Putin has way more power then Obama and there isn't much anyone can do about it. He owns the media, him.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: headhuntersix on March 06, 2014, 07:36:26 AM
Obama is jealous of Putin I'm sure on that account.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 06, 2014, 07:41:38 AM
I'm not a fan of Obama and his administration but the Putin love on the right is dumbfounding.  If Obama were to behave in a similar manner he would be ridiculed for abuse of power.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: headhuntersix on March 06, 2014, 07:49:18 AM
Russia can only be ruled by a Putin like figure. Its in the mental make up to be led by a strongman. Americans like a decisive leader but nothing like a Putin. 

From Ralph Peters:

Look, the bottom line on this is Russia has a real leader. You may not like him, and I don't, but he is brilliant and ruthless, he has clear goals and he moves straight toward those goals. The West lacks a leader. Like it or not, the president of the United States is the de facto leader of the West, and our president just is - he's incapable and unwilling to lead.
The weakness is phenomenal. Now, you know, we are not weaker than we were in the Carter years. I was in that military, it was pathetic. Our military today is the best in the world, best in our history, although Obama wants to dismantle it. We're also immensely wealthier than the Carter years. The problem is, that as a president Obama is far weaker than Carter, and he's probably the worst president we've ever had.

He is a man who's incapable of making a hard decision. And by the way, one other key point, Vladimir Putin believes in Russia. He believes in Russia's destiny, its mission. Obama does not believe in American exceptionalism. He does not believe in this country.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Option D on March 06, 2014, 02:44:27 PM
I'm not a fan of Obama and his administration but the Putin love on the right is dumbfounding.  If Obama were to behave in a similar manner he would be ridiculed for abuse of power.

We here in America love to play politics.

If Obama found a cure for cancer the Right would say its bad for the economy and he is putting oncologists out of work.

I'm sure about it.

Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 06, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
And fucking priceless is McCain meeting with freaking actual Nazis in Ukraine, people who actually have met with and commemorate the old generation of German Nazis and those same "Neo" Nazis playing a major part in what just went down at our behest but Putin is the one we're comparing to Hitler lolololol....  Fucking Bigtime... LOLOLOLOL... WTF....?? ??

A lot of getbiggers were screaming about obama aligning himself with bad guys in order to topple kadaffi.

They shuold be equally vocal about mccain aligning himself with nazi bad guys in order to help his ukranian buddies.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 06, 2014, 08:20:21 PM
(http://dailypastime.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/putin-vs-obama-1.jpg)
(http://tomfernandez28.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/screen-shot-2013-10-26-at-6-02-44-pm.png)
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 24KT on March 07, 2014, 03:02:33 AM
Did you expect coach to know that? ;D

Nah, ...he was expecting Coach to bluff like Palin , ...and then try to wing something off the cuff about Atlanta peaches so he could laugh his ass off.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 24KT on March 07, 2014, 03:05:31 AM
palin didn't have a problem with putin in Georgia just as long as he stayed out of Alabama  ;D

 ;D  I can't wait for the first politician who says this. I just know it's coming!
...and something tells me it's going to be a Republican who says it too.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 24KT on March 07, 2014, 03:10:11 AM
Nope its only if you head is buried in conservative propaganda you think that.


Free marriage, right to choose, drugs etc..

Its republicans WHO wants to interfere in peoples lives.

The only time repub wants government out of peoples lives is when they need an argument to help coorporations fill shit in your food and polute your Water and food.

I've never heard Rush Limbaugh's buttocks referred to as conservative propaganda before.
How thoroughly diplomatic of you  ;D
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 24KT on March 07, 2014, 03:27:18 AM
Knock Knock!
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: dario73 on March 07, 2014, 09:18:10 AM
LOL.

(http://dailypastime.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/putin-vs-obama-1.jpg)
(http://tomfernandez28.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/screen-shot-2013-10-26-at-6-02-44-pm.png)
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 09:32:09 AM
LOL.


Isn't that German Chancellor Angela Merkel who spoke to Putin and afterward told Obama that she "wasn't sure if he was in touch with reality."?

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116852/merkel-was-right-putins-lost-his-mind-press-conference (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116852/merkel-was-right-putins-lost-his-mind-press-conference)

Putin's Press Conference Proved Merkel Right: He's Lost His Mind

In Sunday's New York Times, Peter Baker reported that German Chancellor Angela Merkel had tried talking some sense into Vladimir Putin. The Russian leader has an affinity for the Germans and Merkel especially: He served in the KGB in East Germany, where Merkel grew up. And yet, nothing:

    Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany told Mr. Obama by telephone on Sunday that after speaking with Mr. Putin she was not sure he was in touch with reality, people briefed on the call said. “In another world,” she said.

If you weren't sure of the veracity of that little reportorial nugget, all doubt should've vanished after Putin's press conference today.

Slouching in a fancy chair in front of a dozen reporters, Putin squirmed and rambled. And rambled and rambled. He was a rainbow of emotion: Serious! angry! bemused! flustered! confused! So confused. Victor Yanukovich is still the acting president of Ukraine, but he can't talk to Ukraine because Ukraine has no president. Ukraine needs elections, but you can't have elections because there is already a president. And no elections will be valid given that there is terrorism in the streets of Ukraine. And how are you going to let just anyone run for president? What if some nationalist punk just pops out like a jack-in-the-box? An anti-Semite? Look at how peaceful the Crimea is, probably thanks to those guys with guns holding it down. Who are they, by the way? Speaking of instability, did you know that the mayor of Dniepropetrovsk is a thief? He cheated "our oligarch, [Chelsea owner Roman] Abramovich" of millions. Just pocketed them! Yanukovich has no political future, I've told him that. He didn't fulfill his obligations as leader of the country. I've told him that. Mr. Putin, what mistakes did Yanukovich make as president? You know, I can't answer that. Not because I don't know the answer, but because it just wouldn't be right of me to say. Did you know they burned someone alive in Kiev? Just like that? Is that what you call a manifestation of democracy? Mr. Putin, what about the snipers in Kiev who were firing on civilians? Who gave them orders to shoot? Those were provocateurs. Didn't you read the reports? They were open source reports. So I don't know what happened there. It's unclear. But did you see the bullets piercing the shields of the Berkut [special police]. That was obvious. As for who gave the order to shoot, I don't know. Yanukovich didn't give that order. He told me. I only know what Yanukovich told me. And I told him, don't do it. You'll bring chaos to your city. And he did it, and they toppled him. Look at that bacchanalia. The American political technologists they did their work well. And this isn't the first time they've done this in Ukraine, no. Sometimes, I get the feeling that these people...these people in America. They are sitting there, in their laboratory, and doing experiments, like on rats. You're not listening to me. I've already said, that yesterday, I met with three colleagues. Colleagues, you're not listening. It's not that Yanukovich said he's not going to sign the agreement with Europe. What he said was that, based on the content of the agreement, having examined it, he did not like it. We have problems. We have a lot of problems in Russia. But they're not as bad as in Ukraine. The Secretary of State. Well. The Secretary of State is not the ultimate authority, is he?

And so on, for about an hour. And much of that, by the way, is direct quotes.

Gone was the old Putin, the one who loves these kinds of press events. He'd come a long way from the painfully awkward gray FSB officer on Larry King, a year into his tenure. He had grown to become the master of public speaking, who had turned his churlish, prison-inflected slang to his benefit. A salty guy in utter command of a crowd. That Putin was not the Putin we saw today. Today's Putin was nervous, angry, cornered, and paranoid, periodically illuminated by flashes of his own righteousness. Here was an authoritarian dancing uncomfortably in his new dictator shoes, squirming in his throne.

For the last few years, it has become something like conventional knowledge in Moscow journalistic circles that Putin was no longer getting good information, that he was surrounded by yes-men who created for him a parallel informational universe. "They're beginning to believe their own propaganda," Gleb Pavlovsky told me when I was in Moscow in December. Pavlovsky had been a close advisor to the early Putin, helping him win his first presidential election in 2000. (When, in 2011, Putin decided to return for a third term as president, Pavlovsky declared the old Putin dead.) And still, it wasn't fully vetted information. We were like astronomers, studying refractions of light that reached us from great distances, and used them to draw our conclusions.

Today's performance, though, put all that speculation to rest. Merkel was absolutely right: Putin has lost it. Unfortunately, it makes him that much harder to deal with.

Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 09:50:16 AM
Isn't that German Chancellor Angela Merkel who spoke to Putin and afterward told Obama that she "wasn't sure if he was in touch with reality."?

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116852/merkel-was-right-putins-lost-his-mind-press-conference (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116852/merkel-was-right-putins-lost-his-mind-press-conference)

Putin's Press Conference Proved Merkel Right: He's Lost His Mind

In Sunday's New York Times, Peter Baker reported that German Chancellor Angela Merkel had tried talking some sense into Vladimir Putin. The Russian leader has an affinity for the Germans and Merkel especially: He served in the KGB in East Germany, where Merkel grew up. And yet, nothing:

    Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany told Mr. Obama by telephone on Sunday that after speaking with Mr. Putin she was not sure he was in touch with reality, people briefed on the call said. “In another world,” she said.

If you weren't sure of the veracity of that little reportorial nugget, all doubt should've vanished after Putin's press conference today.

Slouching in a fancy chair in front of a dozen reporters, Putin squirmed and rambled. And rambled and rambled. He was a rainbow of emotion: Serious! angry! bemused! flustered! confused! So confused.


facts are good, but that meme, however factually inaccurate, was funny. 

I think we should all let our sense of humor guide our political awareness.   Facts, blah.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 09:59:09 AM

facts are good, but that meme, however factually inaccurate, was funny. 

I think we should all let our sense of humor guide our political awareness.   Facts, blah.

I 100% agree!!  And I'm not being sarcastic as maybe you are. 

Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Straw Man on March 07, 2014, 10:07:06 AM
The suggestion that Putin has lost his mind now helps me to understand why Repubs are falling over over themselves to show their admiration for this guy.    If we know anything about our modern Republicans it's that they love The Crazy
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: blacken700 on March 07, 2014, 10:17:59 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiEfXYTCQAAS7xk.jpg)
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: RRKore on March 07, 2014, 10:20:57 AM
The suggestion that Putin has lost his mind now helps me to understand why Repubs are falling over over themselves to show their admiration for this guy.    If we know anything about our modern Republicans it's that they love The Crazy

Legit LOL.  I'm not really gonna agree with that but holy shit it's an easy argument to make.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 07, 2014, 10:22:54 AM
IT IS OKAY to support NEITHER Obama nor Putin.

People, you don't HAVE to stand with EITHER man.  Just say you find them both to be bad, and move on.

You don't have to support Putin, just because you hate obama.  it's like this every time... people have to support extremist idiots because they attack obama... people cheering for that terrorist kadaffi because he shit on obama.... dudes, it is totally cool to say BOTH parties involved here are flawed and evil.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Straw Man on March 07, 2014, 10:31:08 AM
Legit LOL.  I'm not really gonna agree with that but holy shit it's an easy argument to make.

I'm not saying it's the only reason or even the primary reason but Repubs in this country clearly admire and promote the bat shit crazies in their own party

I believe the primary reason why Repubs are lining up to blow Putin is that they hate Obama more than they love this country
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Necrosis on March 08, 2014, 02:03:01 AM
I'm not saying it's the only reason or even the primary reason but Repubs in this country clearly admire and promote the bat shit crazies in their own party

I believe the primary reason why Repubs are lining up to blow Putin is that they hate Obama more than they love this country

They are cheering a foreign dictator on...

So odd to see this type of dissonance. Really creepy. Shows you how people need to be lead, he's strong so he's good. However, he is strong in all the wrong ways, abusive, arrogant and impulsive.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 08, 2014, 05:18:04 AM
(http://comicincorrect.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Trampled-on-600-wLogo.jpg)

(http://andelino.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/quote-to-quote-obama-vs-putin.jpg)
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Necrosis on March 08, 2014, 06:05:16 AM
(http://comicincorrect.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Trampled-on-600-wLogo.jpg)

(http://andelino.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/quote-to-quote-obama-vs-putin.jpg)

The americans for limited government are implying by that picture that the US should do somethign about a foreign country across the world, so retarded.

Limited government my ass
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 08, 2014, 06:13:40 AM
(https://www.saveamericafoundation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/putin-obama-chess-vs-bingo-checkers.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hkoZKniQnco/UxfzjHmQatI/AAAAAAAAffc/L3h3-xH0aAw/s1600/Stand-Off.jpg)

(http://cdn.grumpyelder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/OBAMA-PUTIN.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1004941_10200959925578516_1561615710_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: StreetSoldier4U on March 08, 2014, 06:22:43 AM
The right says positive things about Putin only because they feel Putin has made Obama look weak.  I doubt the republicans truely support Putin.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: blacken700 on March 08, 2014, 06:28:47 AM
(https://www.saveamericafoundation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/putin-obama-chess-vs-bingo-checkers.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hkoZKniQnco/UxfzjHmQatI/AAAAAAAAffc/L3h3-xH0aAw/s1600/Stand-Off.jpg)

(http://cdn.grumpyelder.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/OBAMA-PUTIN.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1004941_10200959925578516_1561615710_n.jpg)

Simple things amuse simple minds  ;D
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 08, 2014, 07:41:11 AM
Simple things amuse simple minds  ;D

So you found it amusing.  I'm glad. 
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Necrosis on March 08, 2014, 08:18:52 AM
So you found it amusing.  I'm glad. 

RAPE
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on March 10, 2014, 06:05:07 PM
The right says positive things about Putin only because they feel Putin has made Obama look weak.  I doubt the republicans truely support Putin.

I dunno... for a person with as much political capital as Rudy to say "THAT is what you call a leader..."

I mean, sadaam hussein made decisions even faster than Putin... while it took Putin about 15 minutes to push thru his agenda, Sadaam would have done it immediately.

Repubs are actually praising Putin for not following all the checks we have in the USA to keep one angry leader from entering a war.  "Obama is such a wimp because he has to consult with congress, lol, why can't be be more like Putin and just decide for them?"

Seriously, obama could create world peace and they'd shit on him for the drop in defense spending. 
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: SCRUBS on March 10, 2014, 07:10:24 PM
We here in America love to play politics.

If Obama found a cure for cancer the Right would say its bad for the economy and he is putting oncologists out of work.

I'm sure about it.



And bad for business, think of the poor pharmaceutical companies....
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on March 10, 2014, 07:34:24 PM
If it weren't for Putin, Syria would have already erupted into a much wider conflict.  Perhaps even WWIII.  He is indeed a leader. 
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Option D on March 11, 2014, 07:17:13 AM
And bad for business, think of the poor pharmaceutical companies....

oh shit i forgot about Poor Merck.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 13, 2014, 12:40:13 PM
http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-vladimir-putin-a-far-stronger-leader-than-president-obama/article/2545617



Unreal - O-TWINK making us look like utter garbage
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on July 18, 2014, 10:07:38 PM
Now that we're seeing what may be video/pics/recordings proving Moscow-backed separists fired a missile that killed 23 Americans...

Will repubs still line up to give Putin nonstop praise?  I've noticed the nonstop drooling over his manliness and amazing decision-making power doesn't make them as wet, when he's using this power to, say, blow up planes.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Straw Man on July 18, 2014, 11:12:22 PM
Now that we're seeing what may be video/pics/recordings proving Moscow-backed separists fired a missile that killed 23 Americans...

Will repubs still line up to give Putin nonstop praise?  I've noticed the nonstop drooling over his manliness and amazing decision-making power doesn't make them as wet, when he's using this power to, say, blow up planes.

Is Obama still POTUS?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2014, 07:23:50 AM
Is Obama still POTUS?

seriously, repubs lined up to suck up to Putin.   so bold, so amazing he can make decisions single handedly and build an invasion plan in 15 minutes and nobody can stop him, ah, why cant obama be like that...

I didn't see Palin and Rudy on FOX this morning, worshipping Putin.  Weird.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: whork on July 19, 2014, 07:36:25 AM
seriously, repubs lined up to suck up to Putin.   so bold, so amazing he can make decisions single handedly and build an invasion plan in 15 minutes and nobody can stop him, ah, why cant obama be like that...

I didn't see Palin and Rudy on FOX this morning, worshipping Putin.  Weird.


Well they love school shootings and dead palestinian kids so why not blown up plain victims?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 19, 2014, 07:43:33 AM
Is Obama still POTUS?

Obama is an embarassment to this country
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on July 19, 2014, 07:46:26 AM
Now that we're seeing what may be video/pics/recordings proving Moscow-backed separists fired a missile that killed 23 Americans...

Will repubs still line up to give Putin nonstop praise?  I've noticed the nonstop drooling over his manliness and amazing decision-making power doesn't make them as wet, when he's using this power to, say, blow up planes.

Putin shot that plane down in the same way Saddam was involved in 9/11.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2014, 07:56:42 AM
Putin shot that plane down in the same way Saddam was involved in 9/11.

??? 

Putin's been micro-managing the rebels.

Somehow they get top of the line mobile missle truck driven in from RUS and ran by 4 well trained military to take down the 3rd aircraft this week.  Rebels take credit online, then take it back down.  RUS/Putin has been funding and running the rebellion to hurt Ukraine.

So yeah, I'd say he's definitely got his fingers in this one.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 19, 2014, 08:01:14 AM
??? 

Putin's been micro-managing the rebels.

Somehow they get top of the line mobile missle truck driven in from RUS and ran by 4 well trained military to take down the 3rd aircraft this week.  Rebels take credit online, then take it back down.  RUS/Putin has been funding and running the rebellion to hurt Ukraine.

So yeah, I'd say he's definitely got his fingers in this one.

Every anti american and thug who wants to qeaken and attack us knows there is no better time than now.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2014, 11:52:42 AM
Every anti american and thug who wants to qeaken and attack us knows there is no better time than now.

I'm pretty sure Sept 10, 2001, was a better time than now. 

Like him or hate him, obama has put a lot of terr'ists in bodybags, and we haven't had any planes take down towers.  Obama sucks donkey dick on so many levels I cannot count, but if you're going to say we're in more danger than ever, I want to see stats showing this, not just your opinion.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Kazan on July 19, 2014, 12:14:36 PM
I'm pretty sure Sept 10, 2001, was a better time than now. 

Like him or hate him, obama has put a lot of terr'ists in bodybags, and we haven't had any planes take down towers.  Obama sucks donkey dick on so many levels I cannot count, but if you're going to say we're in more danger than ever, I want to see stats showing this, not just your opinion.

Once they are no longer occupied in the M.E., exactly how long do you think it is going to be before they turn their sights on the US? Sure their a bunch of camel fuckers, but they do plan, and usually wait for a date of significance to them.
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Option D on July 20, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
Every anti american and thug who wants to qeaken and attack us knows there is no better time than now.

Based on what?
Title: Re: Rudy on Putin: "THAT'S what you call a leader..."
Post by: Mr.1derful on July 21, 2014, 09:00:30 PM
???  

Putin's been micro-managing the rebels.

Somehow they get top of the line mobile missle truck driven in from RUS and ran by 4 well trained military to take down the 3rd aircraft this week.  Rebels take credit online, then take it back down.  RUS/Putin has been funding and running the rebellion to hurt Ukraine.

So yeah, I'd say he's definitely got his fingers in this one.

Yes, because he would benefit so much by taking down an airliner.  Just as Assad must have perpetrated a nonsensical chemical weapons attacks on his own civilians the same week U.N inspectors were in Syria and the eyes of the World were upon him.  Are you related to John Kerry or Victoria Nuland?  The U.S had a satellite right over the area, so where's all their evidence?  I guess Putin must have diverted the airliner into a war zone too?  Never mind that Ukraine air traffic control did that.  Or, that Ukraine had a fighter in the vicinity of this plane inexplicably.

In other completely unrelated news, the BRICS have announced the formation of their own development bank.  I'm sure the IMF and World banks don't mind the competition.