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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: Van_Bilderass on March 11, 2006, 06:09:47 PM
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Sandwich: Which top bodybuilders, pro or otherwise, is or was a homo prostitute? You mentioned that Titus was one before he went to prison.
Duchaine: Hahahahah!!! Did I say that in print? I don't think so. God, poor Craig. As much as I think he was a prick, and he probably still is, he really did not deserve that much time in Federal Prison for a drug violation; probation. I think he just barely got out this month, and that was way too long for the infraction. Granted, if he was just honest about his drug use, and didn't wanna waltz the judge around, and the prosecuter, and the probation department through a trial and all these falsehoods, he would have been out long ago. But, ya know, I don't need to say anything, because Craig is Craig's worst enemy. (pauses)Its not going to be an easy life for him.
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Duchaine was one of the worst things to have ever happened to bodybuilding.
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I wonder if you will be able to coax _____ from his hole to comment on this.
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the pot calling the kettle black
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Duchaine was one of the worst things to have ever happened to bodybuilding.
too honest for you, huh fag.
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Duchaine was one of the worst things to have ever happened to bodybuilding.
What a fuckin' retard!!!!
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I wonder if you will be able to coax _____ from his hole to comment on this.
Put down that shovel, Rocket. If Duchaine could comment, it
would be something like "the chickens always come home to roost". For
all his city slickness, he had country smarts. Sensing he wouldn't
make it to 50 (profound number of hereditary diseases), he chose to
hasten his own death, partaking first in a great deal of hedonism.
Still, it surprises me how grossly disliked he was. Did you not
appreciate his pioneering research in anabolics?
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God bless Dan... hahaha... I always loved the weirdo! He was so antogonistic in such exquisite ways. He loved torturing Craig, and it was a funny sight to see at bodybuilding shows. He'd just let Craig bellow and blow in his face and keep the same placid demeanor throughout the eruption. Then he'd just chuckle and walk away. Gotta love him. He was meant for some parallel universe - certainly not this one.
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the pot calling the kettle black
Exactly! Him and Craig probably shared the same dirty needles.
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This topic has been beaten to death. Why is this board still up ???
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Duchaine was one of the worst things to have ever happened to bodybuilding.
you are so ignorant in your statement that it almost doesn't dignify a comment.... but i'm in the mood to lay some smack on ignorant ass pipes today so :
if not for dan we wouldn't be running sophisticated pct after cycles, we wouldn't have access to a huge number of ancillaries and anabolic compounds. unfortunately he also introduced nubain to the bb world but everyone within our little universe has some asshole type tendencies in their personalities, just look at what comes out of your pie hole fruitcake.
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Duchaine was one of the worst things to have ever happened to bodybuilding.
My new philosophy on everything will be to ask WEED what he thinks is right...then just do the opposite!! I CAN'T GO WRONG! :D
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Put down that shovel, Rocket. If Duchaine could comment, it
would be something like "the chickens always come home to roost". For
all his city slickness, he had country smarts. Sensing he wouldn't
make it to 50 (profound number of hereditary diseases), he chose to
hasten his own death, partaking first in a great deal of hedonism.
Still, it surprises me how grossly disliked he was. Did you not
appreciate his pioneering research in anabolics?
Well I don't appreciate it personally but I was referring to a banned member, not duchaine himself.
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Well I don't appreciate it personally but I was referring to a banned member, not duchaine himself.
Sorry, Rock; my misinterpretation. Besides brains, Duchaine had a lot of HEART
(I was kidnapped once by--oh, never mind who--and he assisted my escape), which is what I connected with--not his drug recommendations. He knew he was
going to die young, and simply said, "ah, fuck it", and met his maker head on. Provoking champs like Titus was his calling card. He gave everyone a dose of exactly what they were allergic to. Was fun to watch, but you knew your turn was coming. Didn't make for warm and lasting personal relationships, which in turn contributed to motivate his self-destruction. He, himself, was allergic to love.
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Okay, what psycho bb pigtails-with-a-dick bitch kidnapped you? ;D
Tell us...
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Okay, what psycho bb pigtails-with-a-dick bitch kidnapped you? ;D
Tell us...
I was hired to model for a speedboat company. I had been communicating with the "president" of the company himself, and everything looked legit. When I arrived by plane, "his people", who were also makers of meth-amphetimine, kept me under 24-hour hopped-up security--out in the boonies of Lodi. Suffice to say, I never saw a boat nor a camera. Just guns and a lot of fast-talking people who
never slept. I made my escape on foot, leaving my purse behind. Dan Duchaine got me back to Venice, and gave me a good scolding. But events like this are NOT unusual in our industry. We're even more vulnerable abroad. When I dated "the Prince of Kuwaiti" (in Europe), I could only leave the premises when His Royal
Presence signalled the guards to let me pass. (Needless to say, our relationship was short-lived.) And in the Caribbean, while covering the Bertil Fox case for Sports Illustrated, I was abducted by several employees of a powerful drug lord who, at the time, controlled the island and was issuing death threats to foreign press. They released me after ascertaining that I was there for Bertil only, not their boss, "Little Nut". I've experienced other incidents of captivity, but those are much too painful for me to recall. And you, Shock? Would you care to share something "exciting" from your personal history?
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I once was held captive in a strip club and lap-danced nearly to death. I was so far gone by the time I arrived in emergency, they really thought I wasn't going to make it. I reeked so bad of girl jam that the attendants at the hospital thought that I was beyond toxic levels of girl whiff... they thought I wouldn't make it! LMAO! Just kidding. Hey, I thought for sure you were John Romano...
J/K.. Sorry you had a bad experience. But I'm just curious how someone who does meth would FRONT with a speedboat company. This is perhaps more bizarre than anything else, is it not?
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what a duche
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I once was held captive in a strip club and lap-danced nearly to death. I was so far gone by the time I arrived in emergency, they really thought I wasn't going to make it. I reeked so bad of girl jam that the attendants at the hospital thought that I was beyond toxic levels of girl whiff... they thought I wouldn't make it! LMAO! Just kidding. Hey, I thought for sure you were John Romano...
J/K.. Sorry you had a bad experience. But I'm just curious how someone who does meth would FRONT with a speedboat company. This is perhaps more bizarre than anything else, is it not?
Oh, my abs are clenched in mirth! LOL
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Sorry, Rock; my misinterpretation. Besides brains, Duchaine had a lot of HEART
(I was kidnapped once by--oh, never mind who--and he assisted my escape), which is what I connected with--not his drug recommendations. He knew he was
going to die young, and simply said, "ah, f**k it", and met his maker head on. Provoking champs like Titus was his calling card. He gave everyone a dose of exactly what they were allergic to. Was fun to watch, but you knew your turn was coming. Didn't make for warm and lasting personal relationships, which in turn contributed to motivate his self-destruction. He, himself, was allergic to love.
The few times I spoke to Dan, we talked of his increasing hatred of Bill Philips, of his plans on making some journey on some new bike and I remember talking to him about DNP.
The bill philips thing took me aback but then again, it was bill philips.
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is his book worth reading? or is it dated?
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Duchaine was one of the worst things to have ever happened to bodybuilding.
This is my first post(lurking for a long time), but I had to respond to this thread.
This has to rank in the Top Ten of dumbest posts I've ever seen/read!
Duchaine helped me(and many others I'm sure) learn how to use anabolics in a much safer manner, so I didn't crap out my liver/kidneys and keep my testicles functioning properly.
If you have some personal problem with him that's your business, but don't belittle his contributions to the sport of bodybuilding.
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The following is an excerpt from the last article Dan Duchaine ever wrote:
Dick and Jane's first steroid -- by Dan Duchaine
"After a certain amount of time in this "lifestyle", most bodybuilders wake up and smell reality, and move onto the next phase of their life. The subculture only survives because there's always a new generation of anxious adolescent boys to take their place. The bodybuilding ranks are continually replenished by insecure little boys who want to scare their friends (and enemies) and be a sex object for desirable women."
Dan led many young men astray! Do you think that Dan could be burning in hell right now? That possibility was discussed in this article: www.musclemissions.org/public/99.cfm
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I was hired to model for a speedboat company. I had been communicating with the "president" of the company himself, and everything looked legit. When I arrived by plane, "his people", who were also makers of meth-amphetimine, kept me under 24-hour hopped-up security--out in the boonies of Lodi. Suffice to say, I never saw a boat nor a camera. Just guns and a lot of fast-talking people who
never slept. I made my escape on foot, leaving my purse behind. Dan Duchaine got me back to Venice, and gave me a good scolding. But events like this are NOT unusual in our industry. We're even more vulnerable abroad. When I dated "the Prince of Kuwaiti" (in Europe), I could only leave the premises when His Royal
Presence signalled the guards to let me pass. (Needless to say, our relationship was short-lived.) And in the Caribbean, while covering the Bertil Fox case for Sports Illustrated, I was abducted by several employees of a powerful drug lord who, at the time, controlled the island and was issuing death threats to foreign press. They released me after ascertaining that I was there for Bertil only, not their boss, "Little Nut". I've experienced other incidents of captivity, but those are much too painful for me to recall. And you, Shock? Would you care to share something "exciting" from your personal history?
Okay...my head is spinning. Maybe once....maybe twice this could happen to a woman. But when this stuff happens over and over...it signals that you either have a loose screw in your noggin or you tend to gravitate toward being a vicitm. I mean come on. How many intelligent, normal women would put themsleves in positions of danger over and over again?? It's not an accident.
Hopefully it was a phase you grew out of a long time ago.
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Okay...my head is spinning. Maybe once....maybe twice this could happen to a woman. But when this stuff happens over and over...it signals that you either have a loose screw in your noggin or you tend to gravitate toward being a vicitm. I mean come on. How many intelligent, normal women would put themsleves in positions of danger over and over again?? It's not an accident.
Hopefully it was a phase you grew out of a long time ago.
Compared to other actresses who are flown all over the world on
seemingly legitimate jobs--which is what I did for years--I got off pretty light and consider myself pretty lucky. And, although I can't boast being either normal or intelligent, I've recently refused VIP trips to Dubai and Majorca. Err on the
side of caution, eh, Buff?
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Compared to other actresses who are flown all over the world on
seemingly legitimate jobs--which is what I did for years--I got off pretty light and consider myself pretty lucky. And, although I can't boast being either normal or intelligent, I've recently refused VIP trips to Dubai and Majorca. Err on the
side of caution, eh, Buff?
It's good that you chose to turn down the invites to go to Dubai..LOL..and Mallorca as I take it these were invites from miscellaneous guys with bank rolls rather than a fiance or steady boyfriend, right?
Invites like those are a dime a dozen, but the chicks who accept them are basically prostituting themselves out for the cash or the self esteem/bragging rights they think it will give them. Hell, buy yourself a ticket to Mallorca, enjoy yourself and come home with real self worth.
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You're a good Daddy, Buff! Damn if you don't remind
me of Jesse Ventura. Because of the stuff he's told me, I respect your
thoughts very much. I enjoy taking risks, however, and certainly
don't ever want to lose that part of me. Shoot me if I do!
For survival's sake, I've learned to evaluate opportunities using
very sophisticated criteria. If you could see the big bad
fish I've thrown back into the sea, I think you'd be talking differently
now. Thanks for caring about me. I sense you want to protect me
from evil, and I appreciate it. All suggestions considered!
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It's good that you chose to turn down the invites to go to Dubai..LOL..and Mallorca as I take it these were invites from miscellaneous guys with bank rolls rather than a fiance or steady boyfriend, right?
Invites like those are a dime a dozen, but the chicks who accept them are basically prostituting themselves out for the cash or the self esteem/bragging rights they think it will give them. Hell, buy yourself a ticket to Mallorca, enjoy yourself and come home with real self worth.
You're absolutely right Buff. This certainly is a "self esteem/bragging rights", consider the topic change from Dusche to Ram. Someone needs attention.
Cheers
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You're absolutely right Buff. This certainly is a "self esteem/bragging rights", consider the topic change from Dusche to Ram. Someone needs attention.
Cheers
Jesus, Mary and Joseph, Fly. If Ramazon wanted more attention,
she'd have her own website. This is about Duchaine's insightfulness. His ability to predict the future. Have YOU anything to contribute regarding his prohetic commentary. Something more than vitriol for his supporters? Duchaine was
a biochemical futurist, who's contribution TO ME just happened to be more human than clinical.
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If Ramazon wanted more attention,
she'd have her own website.
for only $300, too! (;) 240)
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for only $300, too! (;) 240)
Hmmm, about what I'm paying to keep my dog in diapers. I'll have
to take that under consideration. Meanwhile, hope to see you the Olympia.
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240 may even give you a discount, who knows
and I am serious, I want those Sally McNeil pictures, let me know if you have 'em still
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Dan's dead ........................ ............
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DUH!
Hey, remember when Dan's girlfriend went to Mexico to get calf implants and they got so infected, she had to amputate both her legs below the knee? What happened to that girl? Anyone know?
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DUH!
Hey, remember when Dan's girlfriend went to Mexico to get calf implants and they got so infected, she had to amputate both her legs below the knee? What happened to that girl? Anyone know?
damn....never heard that story
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The few times I spoke to Dan, we talked of his increasing hatred of Bill Philips, of his plans on making some journey on some new bike and I remember talking to him about DNP.
The bill philips thing took me aback but then again, it was bill philips.
He certainly had conflicting feelings about Bill:admiration for his marketing
savvy and resentment for his dependence on him. Dan needed Bill, much the
same way Arnold needed Weider. Bill recognized Dan's value, exploited it and enabled him to go legit and hold his head up. Dan died from a broken heart. The damage he caused a woman he loved absolutely devasted him. Not the damage he did to himself nor an industry he helped create. (He laughed at that.) The tragedy that he "directed" in his romantic life was just too much for him to bear. She had to have her leg amputated, you know. How do you live with that? Death was a relief.
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damn....never heard that story
Yeah that happened a few month (if memory serves me right) before he passed away.
Teagan. I never hear from you anymore. Still out in Thousand Oaks?
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240 may even give you a discount, who knows
and I am serious, I want those Sally McNeil pictures, let me know if you have 'em still
Of course I have 'em, Med, taken the morning after she was convicted,
prior to her transfer to State Prison. Please dialogue me personally regarding
this subject. Thanks.
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What was the name of the girlfriend? A competitor? And how was it Dan's fault what happened?
And was it true Dan was still addicted to Nubain at the time of his passing?
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The following is an excerpt from the last article Dan Duchaine ever wrote:
Dick and Jane's first steroid -- by Dan Duchaine
"After a certain amount of time in this "lifestyle", most bodybuilders wake up and smell reality, and move onto the next phase of their life. The subculture only survives because there's always a new generation of anxious adolescent boys to take their place. The bodybuilding ranks are continually replenished by insecure little boys who want to scare their friends (and enemies) and be a sex object for desirable women."
Dan led many young men astray! Do you think that Dan could be burning in hell right now? That possibility was discussed in this article: www.musclemissions.org/public/99.cfm
Is this websight really serious? Whoever developed this was really saucin it up.
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Of course I have 'em, Med, taken the morning after she was convicted,
prior to her transfer to State Prison. Please dialogue me personally regarding
this subject. Thanks.
cool beans. ya all know that I am a true Sally fan :)
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Yeah that happened a few month (if memory serves me right) before he passed away.
Teagan. I never hear from you anymore. Still out in Thousand Oaks?
Westlake Village, but I live on my boat half the week in Marina del Rey which enables me to train at Gold's, hang with my tribe, and sail the sea. After a stress-busting workout, I eat, drink Gerolsteiner in a champange glass, write, cause a necessary amount of trouble, then rock myself to sleep in the cradle of the deep blue. Naturally, I wake up more stressed than ever. Something about 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, war, global warming and, yes, Craig-and-Kelly is making me question just how close we are to the Apocalypse. I'm about ready to start sucking my thumb. And you? How do you sleep at night knowing Duchaine went
to his grave with an amputated leg as his final achievement? Imagine HIS stress!
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Of course I have 'em, Med,
>:(
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That Dan Duchaine deserved to live to talk about this Titus story because of what he has said in the past in Musclefagmag before it became more swimsuit centerfold oriented with all those skin models.
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DUH!
Hey, remember when Dan's girlfriend went to Mexico to get calf implants and they got so infected, she had to amputate both her legs below the knee? What happened to that girl? Anyone know?
This is a perfect example of just how really ludicrous the lunatic fringe of this industry can be
a woman...going down to Mexico to get cheap CALF IMPLANTS.....Calf Implants.....what the hell for?? What the hell does a woman need to get fucking calf implants for...
ANd now she has no legs....
ridiculous, pointless, idiotic.
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Is this websight really serious? Whoever developed this was really saucin it up.
Very accurate words about insecure boys wanting to be men through chemistry. I have seen them for years. They juice for 10 years and then realize they threw away their life pursuing the syringe. I can't count how many guys lost their health, finances, education, and future careers chasing a temporary cosmetic physique. In the end when off the juice the reality sets in that the body was just due to drugs and not something they earned. Calling Duchaine a pioneer in steroid research is like calling a wino a chemist. It's an insult to Doctors of pharmacology and PHD's in chemistry/biology. One thing for sure the cycle of insecure kids wanting a gorilla suit will take the place of the guys leaving. Just like Duchaine said.
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Westlake Village, but I live on my boat half the week in Marina del Rey which enables me to train at Gold's, hang with my tribe, and sail the sea. After a stress-busting workout, I eat, drink Gerolsteiner in a champange glass, write, cause a necessary amount of trouble, then rock myself to sleep in the cradle of the deep blue. Naturally, I wake up more stressed than ever. Something about 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, war, global warming and, yes, Craig-and-Kelly is making me question just how close we are to the Apocalypse. I'm about ready to start sucking my thumb. And you? How do you sleep at night knowing Duchaine went
to his grave with an amputated leg as his final achievement? Imagine HIS stress!
you question how close we are to the apocalypse, you should chat with 240 about how 9/11 was an inside job, you guys would have fun ;)
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you question how close we are to the apocalypse, you should chat with 240 about how 9/11 was an inside job, you guys would have fun ;)
Thanks, Med.
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:D
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Teagan looks nothing like Cruella. :-\
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I see it...you dont?
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Don't mean to redirect the topic, but I recall at some point years after winning the 1996 Fitness America when she appeared on a episode of that ESPN show called American Muscle. Basically she was talking about marketing fitness to the mainstream and commercial culture.
Based on what has happened with other people who didn't have a good reputation, who would have thought that people would be talking about her in some murder investigation story in this post2000 time ???
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Gasp...easy on the eggnog, Med! Show me some mercy or else Santa's not going to come down YOUR chimney this year. Instead, Duchaine's ghost is going to pay a call--to examine your calves! Pinch-pinch. Off to Mexico you go. Terrifying thot, eh? BTW, folks, I want to share a sensational photo of Arnold and me taken at a cocktail party last month, so you can see what I really look like today, after one martini, and I don't know how to post it. Instructions, anyone? Thanks a bunch.
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see Aditional Options...click on it (you must put something in the post, even a period, first)
where it now says attach, hit brouse
go to where it is on your computer, (disc, floppy, my pictures)
attach it and post
problems, PM me
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see Aditional Options...click on it (you must put something in the post, even a period, first)
where it now says attach, hit brouse
go to where it is on your computer, (disc, floppy, my pictures)
attach it and post
problems, PM me
Your instructions are PURRRFECT, Med. Here's a shot taken last month with an early mentor.
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is his book worth reading? or is it dated?
I think everything Duchaine ever wrote is worth reading. In fact, when the time came to write my own book on steroids, I mentioned him in the dedication.
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Teagan YOU LOOK SMASHING DAAHHHLING!!! WOW! Good for you. Truly beautiful.
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MILF. :)
xoxo
Thomas Edward Pheil
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Compared to other actresses who are flown all over the world on
seemingly legitimate jobs--which is what I did for years--I got off pretty light and consider myself pretty lucky. And, although I can't boast being either normal or intelligent, I've recently refused VIP trips to Dubai and Majorca. Err on the
side of caution, eh, Buff?
post your pic, you must have some pretty good stinky poo between yer leggies.
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Wow, I....
That just doesn't even compute.
In the words of Kathy Bates in Misery:
Rooster, you are a cock-a-doodle-do!
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Teagan YOU LOOK SMASHING DAAHHHLING!!! WOW! Good for you. Truly beautiful.
Thanks, Shock. YOU must be VERY secure in your OWN beauty and value to
MIRROR ME like that! BTW, Arnold never looked happier, nor more radiant
than that night. He absolutely LOVES being governor.
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I was friendly with Dan the last five years of his life and I can pretty much guarantee you he would have gotten such a kick out of titus and his legal troubles.
I can imagine him now smiling away.
If Dan liked you, you knew it but if he didn't like you then you really knew it. He was a smart guy and I watched him torture people, debating them at parties, just making them look like fools.
He was a man of contradictions. I have read all of the previous posts, some positive and some negative and most of them are correct.
He was an eclectic man, he had unusual tastes and was very eccentric. He was also very interesting and could converse on any number of topics not related to bodybuilding.
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MTC,
Was just thinking that very thing when I signed back onto this thread to read new posts...
Just thinking the same... that Dan would have been so ELATED over these developments. Not because he was a bad guy, but because he delighted in watching the process of people hanging themselves out of stupidity and well, just being them.
RAM,
Well why wouldn't I say it? You do look really, really great! Your face and skin looks amazing and it's a great photo.
Good for you. (I've never felt that what I look like has anything to do with what someone else looks like) :) :) :)
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Shock and Awe, in Germany it is called Schadenfraude and it is loosely translated as taking amusement in other people's misery.
Dam would have received much amusement over this as anyone with a brain could see this coming a mile away.
Life always has a way or sorting things out.
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MTC,
Thanks for sharing that German word. I love it! ;)
And yes, I believe as you do... life always takes you where you need to be if you don't fight it and rebel against it.
There are a great many clues in every area of our lives that tell us what to do and where to go. C & K obviously didn't
listen to that, and "did their own wills"... That's kind of a no-no in the scheme of life, IMO.
Anyhow, yes, Dan is probably smiling now, and shaking his head, getting secret glee from all of it. In fact, he's probably already hooked up with Melissa to pick her brain on what happened. :-*
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MTC,
Thanks for sharing that German word. I love it! ;)
And yes, I believe as you do... life always takes you where you need to be if you don't fight it and rebel against it.
There are a great many clues in every area of our lives that tell us what to do and where to go. C & K obviously didn't
listen to that, and "did their own wills"... That's kind of a no-no in the scheme of life, IMO.
Anyhow, yes, Dan is probably smiling now, and shaking his head, getting secret glee from all of it. In fact, he's probably already hooked up with Melissa to pick her brain on what happened. :-*
And talkin' her into bigger calves, eh, Shock?
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hahahaha... good one Ram. Sick, but good! ;D
He's probably just grinning while laughing that little devious laugh.
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hahahaha... good one Ram. Sick, but good! ;D
He's probably just grinning while laughing that little devious laugh.
He had a deep throaty chuckle. His eyes would squint. Joy in restraint.
Damn, he really got a kick out of the physical culture. Do you remember
his BB girlfriend "Trevalian", Shock, a young enthusiastic brunette he lived
with following his first incarceration?
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yes, I do remember Trevalian. I interviewed Dan for MD around that time - he had just started making Clen Kool-Aid in his bathtub too!! HA! I remember he said the Feds had raided his house/ apt a bit before I went to his house for the interview, and he said they passed right over the Kool-Aid in the fridge. Dan got a kick out of that. He did that throaty laugh and squint you mention, come to think of it.
haha. What a character. He was like something out of Alice In Wonderland. The Mad Hatter!
Then who was the girl who got into the motorcycle accident with him and got brain damage? Man, I had forgotten about that! He had some bad luck with women.. or rather, they had some bad luck around Dan. Hmmmm... ::)
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yes, I do remember Trevalian. I interviewed Dan for MD around that time - he had just started making Clen Kool-Aid in his bathtub too!! HA! I remember he said the Feds had raided his house/ apt a bit before I went to his house for the interview, and he said they passed right over the Kool-Aid in the fridge. Dan got a kick out of that. He did that throaty laugh and squint you mention, come to think of it.
haha. What a character. He was like something out of Alice In Wonderland. The Mad Hatter!
Then who was the girl who got into the motorcycle accident with him and got brain damage? Man, I had forgotten about that! He had some bad luck with women.. or rather, they had some bad luck around Dan. Hmmmm... ::)
Was it Trevalian? Or Caroline? Dan provoked so MUCH turbulence in his intimate relationships. His sarcasim didn't help him here. Plagued by the knowledge that he would die young, like the rest of his family, he probably thought he was doing his lovers a favor by giving her so-MANY-reasons to leave the relationship. Cops, drugs, prison, amputations, etc. Who could hang with that?
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looking gorgeous Teegan ;D
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looking gorgeous Teegan ;D
Kisses, Buff. Did you know Dan? I met him when he was a serious bodybuilder, before he wrote his Underground series. He was ALWAYS trying to get me to try a new steroid, or some newfangled electronic gizmo. For my birthday, he gave me a vibrator--you know, the kind you get from Sharper Image that calls itself a "massager"? I was SO naive then, I didn't know what to REALLY do with it. I can see why many female BBs miss him. He was so STIMULATING. No
electricity required.
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Duchaine ws light years ahead of EVERYONE.....
HE MADE people like patrik arnold...bruce kneller...will brink possible..its pretty pathetic all 3 of em talk trash about Dan now...actually Dan once told me bruce ws a steroid drealer and made me e-mail the guy..man bruce ws mad..FAG!..honest..the guy is gay as they come! (unless everyone already knows this..i've been oyut of touch..)
he(dan) ws telling me about plasma expanders back in 1995...i ws a 17 yr old college kid (dduchaine@aol.com)
teegan clive used to wirte for buttmunch back then (bill p) as did duchaine...
she joined the muscle media family when it ws on its way down ..when it changed names to muscle media 2000 and the c unt bill started editing dans writings..
I NEVER ONCE SAW ANYONE ELSE OTHER THAN TC LAOMA MENTION DAN IN THEIR COLUMNS
let that be clear..
i know he ws distressed about this cause i ws just some punk kid that he happened to make friends with back then over misc.fitness.weights (still accessable thru deja news).other than giving me excellent advice and teaching me tonnes...he did once in a blue moon say so...you could tell he ws pissed about the noobie metrosexual ajenda MM2k had taken....he sai it to me..and in MM that he ws gonna end up dying of polycistic kidney disease bause he played it straight..
guess what..Dan ws right..
RIP Dan..
now look at these low life girls...with all their..oo i knew dan ..soo i must know my shit crap.. ::)
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Duchaine ws light years ahead of EVERYONE.....
HE MADE people like patrik arnold...bruce kneller...will brink possible..its pretty pathetic all 3 of em talk trash about Dan now...actually Dan once told me bruce ws a steroid drealer and made me e-mail the guy..man bruce ws mad..FAG!..honest..the guy is gay as they come! (unless everyone already knows this..i've been oyut of touch..)
he(dan) ws telling me about plasma expanders back in 1995...i ws a 17 yr old college kid (dduchaine@aol.com)
teegan clive used to wirte for buttmunch back then (bill p) as did duchaine...
she joined the muscle media family when it ws on its way down ..when it changed names to muscle media 2000 and the c unt bill started editing dans writings..
I NEVER ONCE SAW ANYONE ELSE OTHER THAN TC LAOMA MENTION DAN IN THEIR COLUMNS
let that be clear..
i know he ws distressed about this cause i ws just some punk kid that he happened to make friends with back then over misc.fitness.weights (still accessable thru deja news).other than giving me excellent advice and teaching me tonnes...he did once in a blue moon say so...you could tell he ws pissed about the noobie metrosexual ajenda MM2k had taken....he sai it to me..and in MM that he ws gonna end up dying of polycistic kidney disease bause he played it straight..
guess what..Dan ws right..
RIP Dan..
now look at these low life girls...with all their..oo i knew dan ..soo i must know my shit crap.. ::)
I ALWAYS encouraged Duchaine to write for the mags, and introduced him to EVERY publisher I worked with except Weider. In turn, he encouraged me to pitch Sports Illustrated and accompanied me to a variety of events in L.A. I NEVER wrote for Bill Phillips, but did coin the term "muscle media" which he used along with "Power Cafe". Dan Duchaine was promoted in my writing whenever possible.
(Damn, Toxic. Don't make me call an Exorcist. The Devil come OUT!)
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HAHAHAHA!! Teagan, you crack me up!!! ;D ;D ;D
But I must say, I DO love the use of the word "c u n t" Tox... particularly when referring to Bill Phillips! (It's so much more delicious to call a man a
c u n t than a woman, I'm sure we'd all agree !! hee hee) ;) ;) ;)
Metrosexual is the best way to describe Bill's magazing machinations. And Shawn Phillips' book of gay torso poses makes me want to puke... not because being gay is bad - because being Shawn "Down Low" Phillips is pathetic... I saw that heap of shit of a book on the Barnes & Noble pile of $3.95 books the other day... I think the book on Tunisian Cooking was selling better.
Dan was classic. TC = Desperate AUTOMOTON :-\
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HAHAHAHA!! Teagan, you crack me up!!! ;D ;D ;D
But I must say, I DO love the use of the word "c u n t" Tox... particularly when referring to Bill Phillips! (It's so much more delicious to call a man a
c u n t than a woman, I'm sure we'd all agree !! hee hee) ;) ;) ;)
Metrosexual is the best way to describe Bill's magazing machinations. And Shawn Phillips' book of gay torso poses makes me want to puke... not because being gay is bad - because being Shawn "Down Low" Phillips is pathetic... I saw that heap of shit of a book on the Barnes & Noble pile of $3.95 books the other day... I think the book on Tunisian Cooking was selling better.
Dan was classic. TC = Desperate AUTOMOTON :-\
In England they use the c-word for men, rarely women. I like that Metrosexual
word, and Tunisian Cooking (exposed to both the last time I visited Paris).
Do you mean BILL Phillips, Shock? And, before I assume an insult, who's the
TC to which you refer?
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I ALWAYS encouraged Duchaine to write for the mags, and introduced him to EVERY publisher I worked with except Weider. In turn, he encouraged me to pitch Sports Illustrated and accompanied me to a variety of events in L.A. I NEVER wrote for Bill Phillips, but did coin the term "muscle media" which he used along with "Power Cafe". Dan Duchaine was promoted in my writing whenever possible.
(Damn, Toxic. Don't make me call an Exorcist. The Devil come OUT!)
i guess i'm bitter...he really didn't need to die...DAN MADE Muscle Media..if it wasn't for "ask the guru" column..
how much did buttmunch sell EAS for? some absurd amount..coulda helped Dan out..
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NOT TC= Teagan Clive
TC = TC Luoma
Silly girl!! :D :D ;)
Yeah Tox, Bill only out for Bill and one of the single oddest men I've ever met in my life.
Shawn Phillips has his own TORSO book Ram.
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i guess i'm bitter...he really didn't need to die...DAN MADE Muscle Media..if it wasn't for "ask the guru" column..
how much did buttmunch sell EAS for? some absurd amount..coulda helped Dan out..
Burn through the bitterness, Tox. Feel your feelings. We can handle it. I do
think there was a symbiotic relationship between Dan and Bill. Bill legitimized
Dan and brought him to the forefront. One couldn't exist without the other.
Sorta like Joe and Arnold.
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NOT TC= Teagan Clive
TC = TC Luoma
Silly girl!! :D :D ;)
Yeah Tox, Bill only out for Bill and one of the single oddest men I've ever met in my life.
Shawn Phillips has his own TORSO book Ram.
An odd man in bodybuilding? Nonsense! (Hyuck!) Thanks for the sweet
explanation, Shock.
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Burn through the bitterness, Tox. Feel your feelings. We can handle it. I do
think there was a symbiotic relationship between Dan and Bill. Bill legitimized
Dan and brought him to the forefront. One couldn't exist without the other.
Sorta like Joe and Arnold.
You R TC? lol..man i used to enjoy your stuff in MM..you're the big guy over a test mag now right?
..oo here is a trip down amnesia lane.... ;D
Dan once told me you were Deep Glute? is that correct?
(for those that dont remember..that ws the article on finaplix pellets and DSMO ..etc..raalgrooowwwww lol)
..anyhow..
i still feel someone shoulda bought Dan a kidney...if i had had Bills $ i woulda....
i REALLY resented the "anthony almada" "poulquin" non rant period of MM..soon after i cancelled my subscription..
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Yeah Tox, Bill only out for Bill and one of the single oddest men I've ever met in my life.
Shawn Phillips has his own TORSO book Ram.
remember the stuffed lycra shorts picture? ;D
man i miss then days :(
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TOXIC, what was Dan's opinion on DMSO? Thanks.
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TOXIC, what was Dan's opinion on DMSO? Thanks.
makes ya smell....didn't he once say there were better compounds available? i forget....i'd like to get my hands on his articles on memory enhancing drugs..sure could use em...TC?? any help in dat area man?
dan and i mostly talked juice....well it wasn't talking..he mostly just put up with me and ws patient enough to answer my questions....he mokinered me "the pest"! :D
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TOXIC, what was Dan's opinion on DMSO? Thanks.
Works like a charm when slapped on a sore joint. But seeps through the skin and dissapates through respiration. You will think you swallowed a frog. Do NOT drink, of course. (See response to Toxic for better product.)
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makes ya smell....didn't he once say there were better compounds available? i forget....i'd like to get my hands on his articles on memory enhancing drugs..sure could use em...TC?? any help in dat area man?
dan and i mostly talked juice....well it wasn't talking..he mostly just put up with me and ws patient enough to answer my questions....he mokinered me "the pest"! :D
Instead of DMSO, an industrial solvent try MSM. It's a derivative of DMSO that's approved for consumption. Physical therapists rave about it. You must take a TABLESPOON of it, however, not those little capsules sold in health food stores. BTW, Frank Zane smears WD-40, on his joints.
For improved memory functions, I have a bundle of supps. recommended by the
leading Alzheimer's researchers, but for now, consider Vitamin E, ginko biloba and GABA, the latter perhaps the most amazingly effective and, so far, legal to purchase over-the-counter. P.S. I'm not the TC yer thinking of. Sorry to disappoint.
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not deep glute?
not laouma...
which TC ¿
thanx for the info though..and WD40? WTF???
and i wanted the names of the non OTC stuff! ;D
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not deep glute?
not laouma...
which TC ¿
thanx for the info though..and WD40? WTF???
and i wanted the names of the non OTC stuff! ;D
What can you give me, Toxic?
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What can you give me, Toxic?
hmm...forward you my 'list'...
lol nahhhh ;D i cant do dat..
hmm if you r going to pakistan in August by any chance you can come trek the himilayas with me! you get to see mount K2!
(http://classic.mountainzone.com/photo/viesturs/graphics/k2-edandscott.jpg)
although..i'll just look at it from a distance..
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hmm...forward you my 'list'...
lol nahhhh ;D i cant do dat..
hmm if you r going to pakistan in August by any chance you can come trek the himilayas with me! you get to see mount K2!
(http://classic.mountainzone.com/photo/viesturs/graphics/k2-edandscott.jpg)
although..i'll just look at it from a distance..
Like me, you'd prefer to look up than down. It's better for the lower back.
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from the readings i've done on k2 ....its called the killer mountain..a much tougher climb than everest..
i just wanna be able to say i've seen it...
plus i've been in north paki before..if you stay there more than a week...you come back feeling so damn healthy...
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Back about 20 years ago an accountant friend of mine did some major financial work for some Saudi prince and was given the opportunity to do anything in the world that he wished to do regardless of the expense.
I happened to recommend a climb to the top of Everest and since he was an avid high altitude hiker, that is what he decided to do; and I was invited to go along.
We did a lot of research and discovered that there was only a short two week period during the year when a climb to the top of the world was feasible. If I recall right, it was the last two weeks of May. And it would cost over $25,000 to join a group that would make the climb along with us. It is probably much higher now.
My good friend passed away before we made the actual committment so it never happened but I have been invited by family members to trek up to the Base Camp in his memory. They make that trip every few years and love it, but I never had the time or opportunity to make that trip.
I know I'm missing a phenominal experience.
Many years ago there was a major movie about K2. I think it starred a very young Bob Wagner and a much older Spencer Tracy. I plan to get it if I can find it on CD. I do recommend Touching the Void if you are really interested.
Sorry about being off subject here but I have always had an interest in this subject.
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Back about 20 years ago an accountant friend of mine did some major financial work for some Saudi prince and was given the opportunity to do anything in the world that he wished to do regardless of the expense.
I happened to recommend a climb to the top of Everest and since he was an avid high altitude hiker, that is what he decided to do; and I was invited to go along.
We did a lot of research and discovered that there was only a short two week period during the year when a climb to the top of the world was feasible. If I recall right, it was the last two weeks of May. And it would cost over $25,000 to join a group that would make the climb along with us. It is probably much higher now.
My good friend passed away before we made the actual committment so it never happened but I have been invited by family members to trek up to the Base Camp in his memory. They make that trip every few years and love it, but I never had the time or opportunity to make that trip.
I know I'm missing a phenominal experience.
Many years ago there was a major movie about K2. I think it starred a very young Bob Wagner and a much older Spencer Tracy. I plan to get it if I can find it on CD. I do recommend Touching the Void if you are really interested.
Sorry about being off subject here but I have always had an interest in this subject.
I've got to help install a hot tub onto a yacht, but hellif I'm not eager to get
onto YOUR subject of better health at high altitudes, Stunt...YES!!!
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Back about 20 years ago an accountant friend of mine did some major financial work for some Saudi prince and was given the opportunity to do anything in the world that he wished to do regardless of the expense.
I happened to recommend a climb to the top of Everest and since he was an avid high altitude hiker, that is what he decided to do; and I was invited to go along.
We did a lot of research and discovered that there was only a short two week period during the year when a climb to the top of the world was feasible. If I recall right, it was the last two weeks of May. And it would cost over $25,000 to join a group that would make the climb along with us. It is probably much higher now.
My good friend passed away before we made the actual committment so it never happened but I have been invited by family members to trek up to the Base Camp in his memory. They make that trip every few years and love it, but I never had the time or opportunity to make that trip.
I know I'm missing a phenominal experience.
Many years ago there was a major movie about K2. I think it starred a very young Bob Wagner and a much older Spencer Tracy. I plan to get it if I can find it on CD. I do recommend Touching the Void if you are really interested.
Sorry about being off subject here but I have always had an interest in this subject.
i repeat..i'm not climbing the damn thing...lol..
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What does one say in a thread after a monster talk on K2?
:-\
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i got something
if you have the time and patience..watch part 1 and 2....you'll be damn close to COMPLETELY convinced..
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=nasa+evidence
all footage is NASAs own shuttle footage
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Duchaine ws light years ahead of EVERYONE.....
HE MADE people like patrik arnold...bruce kneller...will brink possible..its pretty pathetic all 3 of em talk trash about Dan now...
Sorry to come into this thread so late, but excuse me you moron? Dan was a very close friend of mine and I have never talked trash about him that I didn't say to his face as my friend. Find a place I talked trash of Dan please, and post it here or post the URL here. I defended Dan alive, and dead, and knew him better than anyone on earth. Can't speak for Pat or Bruce (though I can't recall seeing them bashing Dan, also don't keep track of what they have to say) but you are talking from your pie hole regarding me. Please don't mention me in your posts if you can;t bother to get your facts straight.
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that was from january...and consider the source