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Title: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 09:47:14 AM
Would having about 6 drinks 1 night a week while on sust cause any problems.  I am not a big drinker, maybe a social one at best but I go out maybe once a week and have a few not even down enough to get drunk.  I just dont want to cause any reactions or have my gear goto waste by a few honest beers.  I would gladly not drink at all though.  I would just have to come up with an excuse other than i am on juice for my little posse.  Would not sound good to the other teachers i go out with ,that the special edu and PE guy does "performance enhancing" suppliments.  I would prolly come up with some BS religous reason or just be all time DD.

When I was in the military I did a cycle of test e w/ some eq and I was drinking like 3-4 nights a week to the point where I blacked out and I still had good gains but those were my less mature days. Prolly coulda got more out of my gear if I was not such a jack-ass hot shot back then. Sometimes i would not even goto sleep after the bars and would just go do PT and lift and go back to sleep for a few hours before I had work and I would not even remeber what I was pushing in the gym.  I am shocked i never hurt myself
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 15, 2009, 09:53:13 AM
never did the shit.but I kick a few back from time to time..I see no good reason to drink while on though.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: muscle19 on February 15, 2009, 09:55:55 AM
i see no harm as long as you arent using any heavy orals, use a liver supp if taking a oral.

Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: tbombz on February 15, 2009, 10:06:57 AM
I would gladly not drink at all though.
then do that. alcohol is no good for bodybuilding. avoid it. if you want to intoxicate yourself = weed or mushrooms. those are bodybuilding friendly.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Luolamies on February 15, 2009, 12:06:05 PM
6 drinks won't do any harm when you're on injectables. In fact I'd go as far as say that it might be a good thing. Not necessarily nutrition wise, but at least you are getting out of the house and meeting friends and people. That is one thing that i sometimes neglet, the social life. See I'm only 24, but i have seen more than enough of drinking, party's, drugs, cheating, lying, fighting and everything in between. Most of that when i was a full time bouncer. So these days when i want to have fun it's usually poker, couple of friends and a bottle of JD. So I'm somewhat of a homebody or a hermit...

Although i was working at a night club door yesterday and it was fun, because i haven't done that in a long time.

Bottom line: "lift hard, heavy, constantly, eat big, sleep enough, but do not forget about the "real world." God knows i have. I started lifting when i was 12 and i started seriously, so...

Enjoy your ALCOHOL!
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 01:27:55 PM
I am not a big weed person I get drug tested monthly for Weed, coke, herion and meth for work so if i do feel the need to go out I choose to have a few beers no liquor.  I am man enough to know I get mean and dumb when i drink that poison and i proudly get called a "bitch" by friends for turning shots down.  I was just worried b/c i do injectables and I cut it with with b12 and i know drinking can inhibit your bodys ability to absorb the b12 and if your body cannot absorb b12 what else does alcohol inhibit?  Would it inhibit my adex? Or my androgen receptors.  i really could nto find anything online that had clear evidence.  figured you guys would know with your experiance.  i think its sad that you guys know more about this shit than most endocrinologist b/c the steroid scare tatics and they do not want to touch the steroid thing with a ten ft. pole my doctor is a fucking mormom.......nuff said he believes some fucked up shit.  hopefully my new VA doc will look out for me instead of God's will
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Luolamies on February 15, 2009, 02:07:28 PM
Quit worrying and just have your drinks, it will not harm you and you'll get what you want. Little alcohol will not do ANY harm to you!
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: brent2741 on February 15, 2009, 02:32:49 PM
its been clinically proven that a drink a night is actually good for you, anymore than that the effects aren't as good.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 02:36:10 PM
all you have to worry about is if your on some harsh orals,,,, and ur urine will let you know if something isnt good,,,, injectables dont go through the liver and kidneys
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: mademan80 on February 15, 2009, 02:36:59 PM
i dont think you have anything to worrry about...i used to go out about two days a week and i had more than a couple of drinks and i had blood work done every four weeks r so and everything came back normal...at that time i was doing a twelve week deca sust cycle...you might want to look into a sports medicine dr. if you are looking for some more sound advice from a medical pro.  
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: mademan80 on February 15, 2009, 02:38:16 PM
 bump what brent said bout the orals
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: mademan80 on February 15, 2009, 02:38:49 PM
my bad shrek
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: brent2741 on February 15, 2009, 02:39:31 PM
its been clinically proven that a drink a night is actually good for you, anymore than that the effects aren't as good.


that being said you can't catch up and have 7 drinks on friday night and none the rest of the week, it doenst work like that.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 02:44:36 PM
i drink beer everynight and i could care less what everyone says that its bad for bodybuilding,,,,, i like beer and ill drink beer ive made awesome gains while drinking the same as i have always drank so enjoy the brews and drunk bitches just pay attention to your urine and how your body feels
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: toe2toe on February 15, 2009, 05:15:09 PM
man i used to drink pretty heavy while i did do 50 mg of dbol ED along with 400mg EQ and750mg TE weekly and made good gains....but, i do have high blood pressure now.  It is partly hereditary i think but i know that drinking that much while using gear couldn't have helped shit.  i dont hardly drink now unless it is a couple of the guys and we are kickin back.  you do have to have a "normal" life but i feel a lot better replacing all that beer with high quality H2O!!  screw all that drinking.  if you feel the need to relaxx the mind listen to bombz and go with green. atleast you can stimulate ur appetite and have higher quality calories as opposed to beer.  a joint shouldnt stay in ur system but about 7 days if u r active with low bodyfat.  just my thoughts tho
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 05:24:38 PM
7 days you are way too wrong on that one and besides i have no respect for potheads i cant stand that shit and it is already known that THC in the weed somehow give you tits im sure someone is going to post up a long article about it and i wont waste the time reading it......... a chronic alcoholic is what you dont want to be but hell the same people that come up with a measurment for being an alcky are the same ones that say iam 90lbs overwheight
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 15, 2009, 05:45:14 PM
7 days you are way too wrong on that one and besides i have no respect for potheads i cant stand that shit and it is already known that THC in the weed somehow give you tits im sure someone is going to post up a long article about it and i wont waste the time reading it......... a chronic alcoholic is what you dont want to be but hell the same people that come up with a measurment for being an alcky are the same ones that say iam 90lbs overwheight

You have no respect for people that smoke pot?
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 05:46:43 PM
nope to that dope smoked plenty im my day dont like the charactors that smoke pot
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 05:49:56 PM
plus iiam in the professional world where drug test are common and random so i know plenty on how long stuff will stay in and from statistics the ones that piss dirty are the ones that fucked something up cause whenever there is an inccident at the project they test everyone
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 15, 2009, 05:53:58 PM
nope to that dope smoked plenty im my day dont like the charactors that smoke pot

you don't think thats a generalization?many different people from all walks of life smoke weed.just the same as there are all different types of people that use steroids..rich,poor,white,black,younger,older.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 06:00:28 PM
ya know when i was in high school i smoked my fair share of weed and to be honest i had being around pot heads now, they are lazy.  straight lazy and they have excuses for everything.  My little brother sits around and collects unemployment (brother who got recruited to play for a big ten team) and sits on his ass and gets fat.  i saw him the other day he told me he got a bag of weed and a new PS3 game and has not left his shitty ghetto apartment for 2 days.............ppl who smoke weed on a regualr basis are pithedic.  Its a demotivator, not hat alcohol is any better but in the professional world you cannot smoke pot, its fucking dumb, you will get caught eventually.  I especailly hate the ones that think weed makes you smarter.........and the idealistic ones..........they are just high, not smart.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 06:04:32 PM
you don't think thats a generalization?many different people from all walks of life smoke weed.just the same as there are all different types of people that use steroids..rich,poor,white,black,younger,older.
color wealth nore age has to do with CHARACTOR that is generalization majority of the people that use gear half the main reason in common PERFORMANCE ENHANCING if that maybe in athletics physcique strength or ENHANCEMENT of health we dont take gear to get high or sone out or to party or clear your mind like the other drugs i have done almost every fun drug out there other then injecting in to veins and those are all horse shit and not natural things in body ALCOHL has natural things and effects when it get metabolized
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 06:07:58 PM
like ARNOLD said when you grow up you drink beer hes numero uno in my book
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 15, 2009, 06:10:20 PM
like ARNOLD said when you grow up you drink beer hes numero uno in my book

you do realize arnold smoked his fair share of weed ..don't you?
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 06:12:31 PM
if you are refering to the video clip then you ought to research a lil more into that subject i have read his books and he hardly ever dabbled with drugs but did refere to a lot of drinking with guys and lots of girls
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 06:13:22 PM
i get offend when people classify gear users in the same catergory of recreational drug users.  I am only taking it for cosmedic reasons and because of an injury I have (fucked up left ass cheek) and it will help heel it..........hopefully. I do not get any "high", if anything I notice a bit of depression when i am on cycle but thats just me not all users.  I hate how people view it as something along the lines of herion..............we are not juicing in some bathroom or a shitty apartment............we do it in sanitary conditions, are responsible, dedicated and disciplined to stick with a workout and diet routine. those are not traits of a meth addict.........
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 15, 2009, 06:14:02 PM
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 06:14:37 PM
dude its cool with me if you are a pot head but all you are stating are things that you beleive in because you are a pot head
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: shrek on February 15, 2009, 06:17:36 PM
yes i have seen him in interveiws that he has smoked weed so has bush obama and so have i ok im done with this topic you have high jacked it because you are a pot head and took offense to it but i think and so do the professional world that if you smoke pot on a common occurance they dont want anything to do with you DONE
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 15, 2009, 06:22:45 PM
dude its cool with me if you are a pot head but all you are stating are things that you beleive in because you are a pot head

I haven't smoked weed in a very very long time.I just have to question people's intelligence that make blanket statements that all pot smokers are lazy is a blanket statement.

i get offend when people classify gear users in the same catergory of recreational drug users.  I am only taking it for cosmedic reasons and because of an injury I have (fucked up left ass cheek) and it will help heel it..........hopefully. I do not get any "high", if anything I notice a bit of depression when i am on cycle but thats just me not all users.  I hate how people view it as something along the lines of herion..............we are not juicing in some bathroom or a shitty apartment............we do it in sanitary conditions, are responsible, dedicated and disciplined to stick with a workout and diet routine. those are not traits of a meth addict.........

just as this whole post is a blanket statement.yea alot of steroids users are just as you describe...but there are some that aren't anything like that.you are profiling all pot users into a view that fits your idea's and beliefs.as you are profiling steroid user's as well.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 06:26:42 PM
I have not touched weed since 2001...........when I was in fucking high school.  Who cares how much blow Bush snorted in the 60s......that a cheap excuse if you think you can use a celebrities mistakes from decades ago to make the same mistakes thats why they lie about it all the time not because they are liars but b/c they know dumb asses like you will use their success and past drug use as an excuse to use the same crap they did.......When your young you think you know everything and your invincible.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 15, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
yes i have seen him in interveiws that he has smoked weed so has bush obama and so have i ok im done with this topic you have high jacked it because you are a pot head and took offense to it but i think and so do the professional world that if you smoke pot on a common occurance they dont want anything to do with you DONE

you show your bias opinion and lack of intelligence by jumping to a conclusion that I am a pot head.one of the last time's I smoked marijuana I did it with a guy that owns a successfull restaurant chain.and another guy that operator's a major shipping company.both guys are well educated and if you didn't know them personally would never know that they partake in an occasional toke.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 06:30:20 PM
I would rather a steroid user drive my kid's bus than a herion/meth/alcoholic/ any of drug hands down.........thats my point.....and i bet you would make that blanket decison to, thats what we do in life we have to generalize......you cant just give people the benifit of the doubt all the time.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 06:32:05 PM
there is a huge difference between an occasional toker and a pothead Einstien........i am talking about adicts and stoners, not somebody thats 35 and goes on vacation and takes a hit of a blunt to feel like they are in college again for a night
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: DIVISION on February 15, 2009, 06:50:07 PM
Would having about 6 drinks 1 night a week while on sust cause any problems.  I am not a big drinker, maybe a social one at best but I go out maybe once a week and have a few not even down enough to get drunk.  I just dont want to cause any reactions or have my gear goto waste by a few honest beers.  I would gladly not drink at all though.  I would just have to come up with an excuse other than i am on juice for my little posse.  Would not sound good to the other teachers i go out with ,that the special edu and PE guy does "performance enhancing" suppliments.  I would prolly come up with some BS religous reason or just be all time DD.

When I was in the military I did a cycle of test e w/ some eq and I was drinking like 3-4 nights a week to the point where I blacked out and I still had good gains but those were my less mature days. Prolly coulda got more out of my gear if I was not such a jack-ass hot shot back then. Sometimes i would not even goto sleep after the bars and would just go do PT and lift and go back to sleep for a few hours before I had work and I would not even remeber what I was pushing in the gym.  I am shocked i never hurt myself


Red wine.......a merlot or cabernet.

Other than that, what's the point?

Until my summer vacation, but that's another topic completely.


DIV
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 06:52:15 PM
Wine dehydrates me so much worse i feel like, i usually just drink Guinness draft....fills me up and keeps me out of trouble and i do not touch liquor anymore.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: DIVISION on February 15, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
Wine dehydrates me so much worse i feel like, i usually just drink Guinness draft....fills me up and keeps me out of trouble and i do not touch liquor anymore.

You have to balance alcohol with your orals.

I'm not a drinker these days.

I just coast.



DIV
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 15, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
i don't do oral...........in reference to gear.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: toe2toe on February 15, 2009, 07:11:12 PM
well it is all a waste of time and inhibits what we are all here for.  by the way, I get drug tested every month and did my own study on myself with good piss tests.  not the ones you buy at walmart.  7 days with a lot of hydration and cardio cleared my body of traceable amounts of THC.  It is not worth it in your line of work bc you are messing with your livelyhood.  thats nothing to mess with.  just stick with your few drinks and take it easy on them man. 
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: gooer on February 15, 2009, 08:01:47 PM
i completely gave up alcohol for 2 years for bodybuilding.. social life suffered considerably, mostly stayed in watched tv had a steady girlfriend. we broke up in september and I gradually started going out again. the last 6 months or whatever have been better than the entirety of two years. i get absolutely shitfaced once a week, do shots grind on bitches the whole deal. i don't lift the next day, and the other 5 days of a week i am strictly dedicated to lifting. i am still gaining size, maybe slightly slower than if i wasn't drinking at all but it's a lot better for me mentally/socially. unless you are competing professionally it's not worth it to be a hermit.

i wouldn't be worried about drinking on injectables dude, nothing bad will happen on you. bump whoever said don't drink on orals. i've done it and i know people who have done it but it's definitely hell on your liver.

sidenote: i can't believe someone said mushrooms being a bodybuilding drug? that's retarded bro they make you sick to your stomach and not eat for like 8 hours? terrible for the diet etc.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: DIVISION on February 15, 2009, 08:36:25 PM
sidenote: i can't believe someone said mushrooms being a bodybuilding drug? that's retarded bro they make you sick to your stomach and not eat for like 8 hours? terrible for the diet etc.

"tbombz" has said alot of stupid shit over this time here.

As far as I'm concerned, recreationals are neutral in pertains to lifting, as long as you do it in moderation.

If you become an addict........then your body will pay the price.


DIV
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: tbombz on February 16, 2009, 10:14:54 AM

sidenote: i can't believe someone said mushrooms being a bodybuilding drug? that's retarded bro they make you sick to your stomach and not eat for like 8 hours? terrible for the diet etc.
that sucks that you cant eat when your on shrooms. and you get sick to your stomach ? yuck. i probably wouldnt eat shrooms if they got me sick to the stomach. 

 ;)

mushrooms = vegetable + no effect on hormones + fiber + no effect on metabolism = bodybuilding friendly


but for an individual which reacts in a manner like you describe, then of course mushrooms would have negative effects as far as the physique is concerned. 
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: tbombz on February 16, 2009, 10:17:15 AM
i completely gave up alcohol for 2 years for bodybuilding.. social life suffered considerably, mostly stayed in watched tv had a steady girlfriend. we broke up in september and I gradually started going out again. the last 6 months or whatever have been better than the entirety of two years. i get absolutely shitfaced once a week, do shots grind on bitches the whole deal. i don't lift the next day, and the other 5 days of a week i am strictly dedicated to lifting. i am still gaining size, maybe slightly slower than if i wasn't drinking at all but it's a lot better for me mentally/socially. unless you are competing professionally it's not worth it to be a hermit.

this sucks too man. so youve got to be dirnking on a weekly basis in order to have a happy life ad to have a woman love you ? damn, i feel sorry for you dude, thats like you have to pay an alcohol tax just to live a normal life.  that SUCKS.  wish you the best man...
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: BostoN SnaSa on February 16, 2009, 11:16:12 AM
haha.. i love the end of pumping iron after the olympia.. arnold laying back on the couch puffing a bone to the dome..  funy shit.. i cant smoke right now do to testing but thats a funny clip
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: DIVISION on February 16, 2009, 11:55:21 AM
haha.. i love the end of pumping iron after the olympia.. arnold laying back on the couch puffing a bone to the dome..  funy shit.. i cant smoke right now do to testing but thats a funny clip

Arnold puffed alot of things back then.....

Remember, he lived in Weider's house, posed nude and all the shit that went with it.   :-\

Arnold sold his soul to get where he is...   :-X



DIV
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Luv2Hurt on February 16, 2009, 01:43:13 PM
i completely gave up alcohol for 2 years for bodybuilding.. social life suffered considerably, mostly stayed in watched tv had a steady girlfriend. we broke up in september and I gradually started going out again. the last 6 months or whatever have been better than the entirety of two years. i get absolutely shitfaced once a week, do shots grind on bitches the whole deal. i don't lift the next day, and the other 5 days of a week i am strictly dedicated to lifting. i am still gaining size, maybe slightly slower than if i wasn't drinking at all but it's a lot better for me mentally/socially. unless you are competing professionally it's not worth it to be a hermit.

i wouldn't be worried about drinking on injectables dude, nothing bad will happen on you. bump whoever said don't drink on orals. i've done it and i know people who have done it but it's definitely hell on your liver.

sidenote: i can't believe someone said mushrooms being a bodybuilding drug? that's retarded bro they make you sick to your stomach and not eat for like 8 hours? terrible for the diet etc.

Interesting post. Yes its true the whole social world does revolve around gouing out and having drinks or going to a party and of course having drinks.  You can say to yourself "Im going out, I dont have to drink I will have water" LOL you will be reaching for a drink in about an hour, you need to be drunk yourself to tolerate drunk people.

Booze does a nice job of lossening people up  Rarely does a date for coffee or lunch turn into a drunken, clothes all over the floor, 3am fuck fest. Some people have fun and enjoy living a different lifestyle, everybody is different, it does keep you out of trouble.  Which I had my fair share in my partying days.  Now just a hit of some green bud here and there puts my mind at ease.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: gooer on February 16, 2009, 05:38:33 PM
this sucks too man. so youve got to be dirnking on a weekly basis in order to have a happy life ad to have a woman love you ? damn, i feel sorry for you dude, thats like you have to pay an alcohol tax just to live a normal life.  that SUCKS.  wish you the best man...

I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you by remarking on your mushrooms comment. But, for the record I said I had a steady girlfriend for 2 years while completely sober and you said you trip on illegal hallucinogenic drugs to have a good time.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: gooer on February 16, 2009, 05:41:58 PM
Interesting post. Yes its true the whole social world does revolve around gouing out and having drinks or going to a party and of course having drinks.  You can say to yourself "Im going out, I dont have to drink I will have water" LOL you will be reaching for a drink in about an hour, you need to be drunk yourself to tolerate drunk people.

Booze does a nice job of lossening people up  Rarely does a date for coffee or lunch turn into a drunken, clothes all over the floor, 3am fuck fest. Some people have fun and enjoy living a different lifestyle, everybody is different, it does keep you out of trouble.  Which I had my fair share in my partying days.  Now just a hit of some green bud here and there puts my mind at ease.


haha yes I could not have said this better myself man. Being sober around drunk people is absolutely intolerable. They are so annoying, I would rather just stay home. I'm not saying I'm an alcoholic or I need alcohol to function, but being a single guy in my 20's, it is fun to occasionally go out and see what happens.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 16, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you by remarking on your mushrooms comment. But, for the record I said I had a steady girlfriend for 2 years while completely sober and you said you trip on illegal hallucinogenic drugs to have a good time.

yep leave it to our government to outlaw a mushroom.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 16, 2009, 07:19:56 PM
i hate when the government is up in everybody business however i do nto condone the use of mushrooms they arent even that fun they just makes u see and feel weird shit for 6 hours.  Its not a social drug at all, only people who wish to escape their own pithedic reality use that crap
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: tbombz on February 16, 2009, 07:22:13 PM
i hate when the government is up in everybody business however i do nto condone the use of mushrooms they arent even that fun they just makes u see and feel weird shit for 6 hours.  Its not a social drug at all, only people who wish to escape their own pithedic reality use that crap
thats absolutely redeculous.


how about I say "Only cowardly, shy, introverts drink alcohol."
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 16, 2009, 07:43:33 PM
well there is a much larger population in the world  that consumes alcohol as compared to Jerry Garcia tree huggers that think everything is a conspiracy...........if you said that i would laugh in your face and be pissed b/c my IQ dropped a point because I read such a "stoner myth" comment...........don't you have the munchies or some new black lights buy for your smoke room?  In the mean time I am going to go grab some DB's and goto muscle failure
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Stacker21 on February 16, 2009, 07:58:40 PM
i get offend when people classify gear users in the same catergory of recreational drug users.  I am only taking it for cosmedic reasons and because of an injury I have (fucked up left ass cheek) and it will help heel it..........hopefully. I do not get any "high", if anything I notice a bit of depression when i am on cycle but thats just me not all users.  I hate how people view it as something along the lines of herion..............we are not juicing in some bathroom or a shitty apartment............we do it in sanitary conditions, are responsible, dedicated and disciplined to stick with a workout and diet routine. those are not traits of a meth addict.........

This is a battle we will never win, those who think of it as a street drug has no knowledge on anabolics.  Its the people that abuse and mess this drug up that kills it for most of us.  No meth or heroin user can give you a good reason they are doing it nor can they prove a good outcome for using it.  Bad thing is, anabolics will never be legal in the US, way too many idiots out there.  I am sure we have proven our case to many people before
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 16, 2009, 08:12:31 PM
its fear thats why it was outlawed.......and i think also from people who fucked up in life just used gear as an excuse, like Lyle Alzado......he went on national television and said it was form doing juice and then his own doctor came out and said his steroid use had nothing to do with it but of course that comment made it to the 17th page of the New York Times.......I did see a good story on it a few years ago that showed a good side of steroid use it was hosted by Byrant Gumble.....btw stacker I think you need some more cowbell.........
&feature=related  part 2 of the video
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Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 16, 2009, 08:51:20 PM
i hate when the government is up in everybody business however i do nto condone the use of mushrooms they arent even that fun they just makes u see and feel weird shit for 6 hours.  Its not a social drug at all, only people who wish to escape their own pithedic reality use that crap

It's the morality police to the rescue!the drugs you choose to use Alcohol,steroids and what ever else=fine.but if 1-503rd don't use it. and he don't condone it. then in turn means it's not fine.what a hypocrite.I'm for the legalization of steroids,marijuana,mushrooms.I don't attempt to tell people what they should or shouldn't put in there body.nor do I look down on people that use things I don't.It's all a personal choice.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 16, 2009, 09:00:36 PM
I respect your opinion I just disagree with you.  I am for decriminalization of juice, it should be regulated but you should not be called a felon for being a user.  I think its fucked up that if u get caught with an Amp then legally there is no difference between you and a smack head.  ppl who do illegal recreational drugs live in a criminal culture, they deal with drug dealers and ppl who do drugs a lot only care about getting high and not whats right b/c it alterers their state of mind and their selfishness comes out.  They cannot control themselves sometimes.  Look at the ghetto your not going to find a juice dealer on the corner that will cap your ass over an amp but if u steal one of his rocks he will pop you in your face.  thats my point, I do not like crime anymore than the Bush regime does but I do not see steroids causing violent crime at all.........coke, meth, H, and yes sometimes pot cause people to do some fucked up shit and i do not like it when people break into houses to get money for some smack or kill people so they can get high......and i am not saying that you do b/c u disagree with me, this is just my point of view sorry if i offend you
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: jon cole on February 17, 2009, 12:17:41 AM
i made a near death experience when drinking while on clen. seriously.bad trip.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: abc123 on February 17, 2009, 02:58:27 AM
Why not just take half a valium or xanax before going out, rather than drinking?  Just drink water if you feel wierd without a drink in your hand.

Valium/Xanax relax you and isn't as bad as alcohol for your body.  If you have enough self control to make sure you have more "off" days than "on" you shouldn't get addicted.

I stopped drinking a long time ago and feel 100x better.  IMO it's like putting paint thinner through your system.  It strips your body of water and nutrients.  Plus, it's completely counterproductive to bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 17, 2009, 05:00:13 AM
I respect your opinion I just disagree with you.  I am for decriminalization of juice, it should be regulated but you should not be called a felon for being a user.  I think its fucked up that if u get caught with an Amp then legally there is no difference between you and a smack head.  ppl who do illegal recreational drugs live in a criminal culture, they deal with drug dealers and ppl who do drugs a lot only care about getting high and not whats right b/c it alterers their state of mind and their selfishness comes out.  They cannot control themselves sometimes.  Look at the ghetto your not going to find a juice dealer on the corner that will cap your ass over an amp but if u steal one of his rocks he will pop you in your face.  thats my point, I do not like crime anymore than the Bush regime does but I do not see steroids causing violent crime at all.........coke, meth, H, and yes sometimes pot cause people to do some fucked up shit and i do not like it when people break into houses to get money for some smack or kill people so they can get high......and i am not saying that you do b/c u disagree with me, this is just my point of view sorry if i offend you

I respect your opinion as well...kinda funny you bring up selfishness because you sound kinda self-righteous.holier than thou if you will...but let me ask you this.when has a drug being illegal (weather it be roids or weed)ever stopped a person from doing them?
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on February 17, 2009, 10:04:45 AM
never, however when something is illegal it becomes socially unacceptable...........t hat prevents it to be as wide spread as alcohol
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: DIVISION on February 17, 2009, 09:08:18 PM
Interesting post. Yes its true the whole social world does revolve around gouing out and having drinks or going to a party and of course having drinks.  You can say to yourself "Im going out, I dont have to drink I will have water" LOL you will be reaching for a drink in about an hour, you need to be drunk yourself to tolerate drunk people.

Booze does a nice job of lossening people up  Rarely does a date for coffee or lunch turn into a drunken, clothes all over the floor, 3am fuck fest. Some people have fun and enjoy living a different lifestyle, everybody is different, it does keep you out of trouble.  Which I had my fair share in my partying days.  Now just a hit of some green bud here and there puts my mind at ease.

As I get older, I have to pace.

I don't drink to get drunk these days anyway.


DIV
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Luolamies on February 18, 2009, 07:23:15 AM
When i feel "awful" or need something to get me in the "groove" it's usually 2-4 mg xanax and maybe a few beers. 4 mg of xanax might seem high to some of you, but I'm a big guy and i have had a high tolerance to most medications all my life. Weed is rare here, but there's some hash (both cannabis products). Some time ago i and few of my friend's were smoking BIG time while playing cards and the products were grade A and i did not drop a dime on it. We smoked 4 different kinds of products/hybrids and one of them was this super expensive "innovative" hash hybrid Indian-Thai "flower" and both of my friends (regular size guys) were tripping balls, but i smoked about the same amount as they did combined and just felt a little relaxed. So to each his own.

As for alcohol I'm all for occasional drinking, here in Scandinavia alcohol does not have that "taboo" that it still has in some countries. Funny thing is when i did construction work, there were plenty of guys who were full blown alcoholics and some times they talked about gear (which they did not know anything about) and at the same time were half dead at the time and fully dead now, HAH HAH. They were allways like: "heart attacks, cancer, roid rage and that same BS. Just from hormones that you already have in you, for example testosterone...
So as far as i'm concerned gear should be available to adults legally.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: tbombz on February 18, 2009, 11:21:39 AM
when something is illegal it becomes socially unacceptable
according to whom , exactly ?
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Luv2Hurt on February 18, 2009, 08:47:02 PM
according to whom , exactly ?

society
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: abc123 on February 19, 2009, 03:26:35 AM
society

Usually driven by the press...
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: tbombz on February 19, 2009, 10:15:54 AM
society
i must be in a different society than you
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Luv2Hurt on February 19, 2009, 02:29:58 PM
i must be in a different society than you

I think you are, but if something is "socially unacceptable"  The pepole doing the unaccepting are society.  Thats all, not saying I agree with the guy, I been smoking weed since before you were a cum stain in your father's drawers.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: DIVISION on February 19, 2009, 08:30:34 PM
I think you are, but if something is "socially unacceptable"  The pepole doing the unaccepting are society.  Thats all, not saying I agree with the guy, I been smoking weed since before you were a cum stain in your father's drawers.

I only smoked marijuana once and it didn't do anything for me.

I don't understand how anyone could ever get hooked on such a weak drug.

Then again, I think the same about alcohol.   :-X


DIV
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 19, 2009, 08:49:16 PM
I only smoked marijuana once and it didn't do anything for me.

I don't understand how anyone could ever get hooked on such a weak drug.

Then again, I think the same about alcohol.   :-X


DIV

good 4 you..do you believe that someone has a personal right to decide for themselves what to put in there own body?weather it be marijuana,alcohol,or steroids.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: DIVISION on February 19, 2009, 10:00:07 PM
good 4 you..do you believe that someone has a personal right to decide for themselves what to put in there own body?weather it be marijuana,alcohol,or steroids.

Of course I do.   ::)

"whether", not "weather".   ;D


DIV
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Emmortal on February 19, 2009, 10:36:53 PM
I only smoked marijuana once and it didn't do anything for me.

DIV

You do realize most people have to smoke marijuana 3-5 times before they actually get high from it?  There's some sort of resistance to it in a lot of people, but once it's broken down you can get high anytime you smoke it afterward.  I just got my girlfriend high for her first time and it took her 5 times of smoking it before she got stoned (5 separate occasions).  And it was Bomb Kush which is fairly potent bud.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: DIVISION on February 19, 2009, 10:51:48 PM
You do realize most people have to smoke marijuana 3-5 times before they actually get high from it?  There's some sort of resistance to it in a lot of people, but once it's broken down you can get high anytime you smoke it afterward.  I just got my girlfriend high for her first time and it took her 5 times of smoking it before she got stoned (5 separate occasions).  And it was Bomb Kush which is fairly potent bud.

I've had a few samples since my initial experience, but it's just not my thing.

It's not good for your lungs either, and anything that is detrimental to my lifting isn't something I'd make a habit of.


DIV
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Emmortal on February 19, 2009, 11:12:18 PM
I've had a few samples since my initial experience, but it's just not my thing.

It's not good for your lungs either, and anything that is detrimental to my lifting isn't something I'd make a habit of.


DIV

Understandable.  But marijuana isn't really that weak of a drug, some of the breeds they are growing these days are pretty potent.  If you aren't a habitual smoker then it won't effect your lifting performance.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: abc123 on February 20, 2009, 03:00:10 AM
I've had a few samples since my initial experience, but it's just not my thing.

It's not good for your lungs either, and anything that is detrimental to my lifting isn't something I'd make a habit of.


DIV

I'm in the same boat.  I don't like it.

It makes me feel jittery and really wierd.

I've did it many times when drunk when I was younger, but always swore to never do it again.

About a year ago, my little brother brought some to town and I tried ONE hit on the pipe and had to take a xanax and go to bed I felt such a bad high. 
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: windsor88 on February 20, 2009, 03:37:08 AM
I'm in the same boat.  I don't like it.

It makes me feel jittery and really wierd.

I've did it many times when drunk when I was younger, but always swore to never do it again.

About a year ago, my little brother brought some to town and I tried ONE hit on the pipe and had to take a xanax and go to bed I felt such a bad high. 

you sound like you already had a history of anxiety/panic attacks.  Weed does bring that on sometimes.
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: Luv2Hurt on February 20, 2009, 04:14:08 AM
You do realize most people have to smoke marijuana 3-5 times before they actually get high from it?  There's some sort of resistance to it in a lot of people, but once it's broken down you can get high anytime you smoke it afterward.  I just got my girlfriend high for her first time and it took her 5 times of smoking it before she got stoned (5 separate occasions).  And it was Bomb Kush which is fairly potent bud.

This is true, first time I smoked weed i did not get high, but second time I did.  Must be THC receptors being used for the first time or something.  I think your right people who say its not for them probally did not give it enough of a chance.

And yes pot is a pretty strong drug, with a fairly high psychological addiction property.  Now a days i go thru phases of smoking it like periods maybe as long as 4-6 months on and 6-12 months off ;D  Have noticed after using it comming off a long layoff from getting high that it will even make me groggy and almost hungover feeling in the morning for a week or so till I readjust.  But that first hit of some sticky green will have me high as hell!
Title: Re: Drinking while on gear
Post by: big L dawg on February 20, 2009, 04:23:44 AM
god damn!how many people on this forum is on xanax?I bet I've read a dozen different post's just this week referring to taking them.