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Title: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 06:08:54 AM
I am almost ripped. I am thinking of fatburners since I wanna be stage ripped not the beach variety. I am facing a few obstacles though. I cannot find in Romania t3 or ephedrine. I am stuck with t4 and Regenon. Can the specialists advise me on t4? is it worthless? or can I use it?

I am doing 2 hours of cardio daily, 1 hour during lifting days (3x a week)
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: WillGrant on January 02, 2012, 06:20:08 AM
I think the conversion rate is 4 to 1 or 5 to 1 on t4 so you need to take 4 times as much to get the conversion to t3 in the blood etc someone will confirm though , and if its all you have then it will do the job :)
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: merrill1973 on January 02, 2012, 06:29:53 AM
http://astronutrition.com/diet-energy/ephedrine-ephedra

takes about 10 days to ship
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 06:31:47 AM
http://astronutrition.com/diet-energy/ephedrine-ephedra

takes about 10 days to ship
unfortunately brother ephedrine here is in the same narcotic class as cocaine legally so it is def not worth the risk.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 06:50:59 AM
gh15 .. any advice?
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: ChevChelios on January 02, 2012, 07:03:48 AM
Dude,you can get T3 at no problem,pm me and i'll help you out.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: L.L on January 02, 2012, 07:06:07 AM
sucks to be a natural  and having  to do 2 hrs of cardio when there is gh , t3....goshhh, i hate that word "natural" ..
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: affeman on January 02, 2012, 07:09:51 AM
Trust me, the guy is more reliable then amazon.com. Ships from Greece.

http://www.terisgr.biz/index.php?language=en
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 07:22:40 AM
sucks to be a natural  and having  to do 2 hrs of cardio when there is gh , t3....goshhh, i hate that word "natural" ..
well .. I did not want to take hormones. Do not care about size .. just to be extremely ripped. I will have enough muscle to create the illusion.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: kreator on January 02, 2012, 07:26:53 AM
know a guy who fucked up his thyroid with t3 , has a really slow metabolism now and is fat
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 07:28:34 AM
Or I could just keep on doing cardio lol
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: affeman on January 02, 2012, 07:34:40 AM
Or I could just keep on doing cardio lol

Wavelength does no cardio at all and is fucking shredded.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 07:37:33 AM
Wavelength does no cardio at all and is fucking shredded.
haha right!!

Maybe I should ask him for advices on geting ripped eating cake and drinking wine lol
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: BIG_STI on January 02, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
Natty scum, oh wait you use to be juiced to the gills and looked to be 160lbs soaking wet.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Red Hook on January 02, 2012, 07:42:02 AM
I am almost ripped. I am thinking of fatburners since I wanna be stage ripped not the beach variety. I am facing a few obstacles though. I cannot find in Romania t3 or ephedrine. I am stuck with t4 and Regenon. Can the specialists advise me on t4? is it worthless? or can I use it?

I am doing 2 hours of cardio daily, 1 hour during lifting days (3x a week)


too much cardio, cut back to 45 minutes..you would be better serve cutting the calories in your diet.

If you pay for shipping and handling I will mail you all of the Bronkaid that you need. It is legal here in NY.

T3 is illegal here as well and so I avoid it.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 07:47:46 AM

too much cardio, cut back to 45 minutes..you would be better serve cutting the calories in your diet.

If you pay for shipping and handling I will mail you all of the Bronkaid that you need. It is legal here in NY.

T3 is illegal here as well and so I avoid it.

There is nothing more to cut from diet. I eat 400 g of meat daily plus veggies and an avocado.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 07:50:17 AM
Natty scum, oh wait you use to be juiced to the gills and looked to be 160lbs soaking wet.
are there issues big STI?  ;D
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: wes on January 02, 2012, 08:55:09 AM
Increase training days to 5-6 times weekly if possible,and eat the same as now,plus double your water intake.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: howardroark on January 02, 2012, 08:55:37 AM
2 hrs of cardio a day is counter productive. Cut out the cardio and cut your caloric intake. You'll probably lose more  bodyfat that way simply by stopping overtraining.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 02, 2012, 09:03:17 AM
well .. I did not want to take hormones. Do not care about size .. just to be extremely ripped. I will have enough muscle to create the illusion.
Same here. Im getting out of the whole " permabulker " phase........been one ever since i started lifting, and im also training all natural right now, see what kind of results i get just for the hell of it. I was on supplements/prohormones for a good 3 years.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: howardroark on January 02, 2012, 09:12:40 AM
Instead of looking for T3, why not try some clen? In addition to increasing your metabolic rate, clen is known for its anabolic effects.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on January 02, 2012, 09:14:34 AM
2 hrs of cardio a day is counter productive. Cut out the cardio and cut your caloric intake. You'll probably lose more  bodyfat that way simply by stopping overtraining.
An hour at the very most is all you need in my opinion, most of the time i only do 35 min on the treadmill. For the next 4 or 5 months im looking to do 3 whole food meals everyday BEFORE training for the day then a protein shake post workout with some carbs, bread, bananas, whatever and same thing again 2-3 hrs later....Soo 3 whole food meals with 2 protein shake/carb Snack/mealS.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Natural Man on January 02, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
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Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: BBFan on January 02, 2012, 09:18:55 AM
Why not drive down south for couple of hours and get whatever you need?
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: BIG_STI on January 02, 2012, 09:21:01 AM
Why not drive down south for couple of hours and get whatever you need?

Gypsies don't own cars
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: bigmc on January 02, 2012, 09:55:36 AM
gypsies steal their food
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: stuntmovie on January 02, 2012, 10:12:34 AM
Clean, Good luck in this endeavor! When do you plan to publish the results?
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: merrill1973 on January 02, 2012, 10:56:39 AM
unfortunately brother ephedrine here is in the same narcotic class as cocaine legally so it is def not worth the risk.

that sucks!  its perfectly legal here in the UK, actually you can get it in some over the counter cough tablets from high street shops... Nice little stimulant before working out and it also focuses my mind at work..
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 02, 2012, 01:42:39 PM
Clean, Good luck in this endeavor! When do you plan to publish the results?
Ass soon as I am stage ready so to speak I'll pop some diuretic and take pics ... I'll post them here as well
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: ChristopherA on January 02, 2012, 02:37:09 PM
Instead of looking for T3, why not try some clen? In addition to increasing your metabolic rate, clen is known for its anabolic effects.
X2. Natural and wanting to take T3 or T4, gonna burn up to much muscle. Clen is the way to go.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: arce1988 on January 02, 2012, 03:46:05 PM
  shgh...
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: MrBigandCut on January 02, 2012, 06:02:26 PM
Ass soon as I am stage ready so to speak I'll pop some diuretic and take pics ... I'll post them here as well

Cleanest Natural ??? Does this mean you just wash alot? ;D
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 03, 2012, 01:33:02 AM
X2. Natural and wanting to take T3 or T4, gonna burn up to much muscle. Clen is the way to go.
clen was the WORST fatburner I ever took .. jittery, paranoia and an overall bad feeling. Will never do clen again. WAY overrated
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: greeneyes on January 03, 2012, 01:34:50 AM
lasix and aldactron + dnp
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 03, 2012, 02:22:24 AM
lasix and aldactron + dnp
judging by what you wrote you seem no Einstein when it comes to bb
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Super Natural on January 03, 2012, 06:44:34 AM
IMO If your only doing protein/fat veg on low calories I'd definitely not neglect to throw in a refeed day once a week (like your normal diet plus 300g of carbs) don't just diet flat out you'll burn out, do "3 steps forward one step back" Will actually help you break through fat loss plateaus to carb refeed, stop you getting too flat/weak and will stop your thyroid from crashing hard. Also try shorter more intense cardio up to twice a day (10-15 min) a few days a week (skipping, sprints, BW circuits, kettlebells etc.). also try stay active instead of lying about (go shopping, do errands, gardening, house work etc.) it all adds up over time. Just keep on dieting and doing your cardio even if you feel like you aren't making progress you are, the fat will  eventually go.   
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Super Natural on January 03, 2012, 06:54:32 AM
it may seem counter intuative (and is something very few guys do) but once you are almost 100% ready or after your diet. I'd start slowly adding carbs back (like 25g a day for a week, add another 25g a day next week and so on till you are at 200g a day) at the same time increase the volumn of your training/cardio 6 days a week. it's very hard to do because as your metabolism builds back up and you get fucking ravenous, but you'll get fuller and even more shredded than beating yourself into the ground. 
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: njflex on January 03, 2012, 06:58:45 AM
IMO If your only doing protein/fat veg on low calories I'd definitely not neglect to throw in a refeed day once a week (like your normal diet plus 300g of carbs) don't just diet flat out you'll burn out, do "3 steps forward one step back" Will actually help you break through fat loss plateaus to carb refeed, stop you getting too flat/weak and will stop your thyroid from crashing hard. Also try shorter more intense cardio up to twice a day (10-15 min) a few days a week (skipping, sprints, BW circuits, kettlebells etc.). also try stay active instead of lying about (go shopping, do errands, gardening, house work etc.) it all adds up over time. Just keep on dieting and doing your cardio even if you feel like you aren't making progress you are, the fat will  eventually go.   
i would take your word by your pics bro...ripped to the bone.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Swede! on January 03, 2012, 07:01:10 AM
I have lost 6.5cm around 2.6 inches around my waist in 3.5 weeks. With one of thsro weeks spent in norway with not optimal "diet". Not even bothered with real cardio yet either. Just 15 min tabata boxing. After working out and 4 min before working out. Slow pace on the before. Home training lol. No real "diet" either. Just healthy. And around 5 meals (small, incl proteinshake) a day to get my metabolism back up insetad of one MASSIVE like the lazy fuck I was 3.6 weeks ago lol.

I wonder if I should bring back teh 27 inch waist.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: bigbobs on January 03, 2012, 08:55:08 AM
Sev are you planning on doing a show?
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 04, 2012, 02:51:11 AM
Sev are you planning on doing a show?
No brother. I am doing what you did. I just want to have a killer bod at 36 because I feel actually young and great. I also was disgusted with looking normal. God did not gimme this kind of genes to look "normal"  ;)

@ SuperNatural

I am doing a pizza pasta day every 4-6 days I forgot to mention. I did this shit ad nauseam the past 20 years so I know exactly what's up. I do however appreciate all opinions and advices. I never stop learning.

My main concern were about the fatburners.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Aussie Duffman on January 04, 2012, 02:54:09 AM
it may seem counter intuative (and is something very few guys do) but once you are almost 100% ready or after your diet. I'd start slowly adding carbs back (like 25g a day for a week, add another 25g a day next week and so on till you are at 200g a day) at the same time increase the volumn of your training/cardio 6 days a week. it's very hard to do because as your metabolism builds back up and you get fucking ravenous, but you'll get fuller and even more shredded than beating yourself into the ground. 
Good advice
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 04, 2012, 03:01:36 AM
Sev are you planning on doing a show?
no hormones brother ... I'll prolly end up around 176lbs ripped @ 5'11"
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Super Natural on January 04, 2012, 03:44:13 AM
No brother. I am doing what you did. I just want to have a killer bod at 36 because I feel actually young and great. I also was disgusted with looking normal. God did not gimme this kind of genes to look "normal"  ;)

@ SuperNatural

I am doing a pizza pasta day every 4-6 days I forgot to mention. I did this shit ad nauseam the past 20 years so I know exactly what's up. I do however appreciate all opinions and advices. I never stop learning.

My main concern were about the fatburners.

My old training partner used t4 to lose a lot of weight and get shredded, but got fat as fuck when he stopped and went back to normal eating. I saw him a few weeks ago and he is fatter than he ever was before...I'm not sure if it has some sort of rebound effect afterwards..so not sure if it’s worth it...seen this happen to number of fitness girls and bb too. As for "Fatburners" I used 20mg ephedrine with 200mg caffeine 2x a day and only on my low carb days when dieting hard (more to blunt appetite and to keep mentally alert for work than for fat burning) take it with L tyrosine, green tea etc. and 5htp before bed (helps lower adrenal burnout) - No more than 6 weeks @ a time. IMO most of your "fat burning" is still going to come from the calorie deficit from diet and exercise/keeping busy.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: ChevChelios on January 04, 2012, 03:46:17 AM
Well it is actually a rebound effect,if you stop the died,stop the tyroid hormones and get back to eating normal,you will most likely gain fat rapidly.That's why another couple of weeks of dieting after stopping tyroid hormones is required.
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: Cleanest Natural on January 04, 2012, 03:49:13 AM
My old training partner used t4 to lose a lot of weight and get shredded, but got fat as fuck when he stopped and went back to normal eating. I saw him a few weeks ago and he is fatter than he ever was before...I'm not sure if it has some sort of rebound effect afterwards..so not sure if it’s worth it...seen this happen to number of fitness girls and bb too. As for "Fatburners" I used 20mg ephedrine with 200mg caffeine 2x a day and only on my low carb days when dieting hard (more to blunt appetite and to keep mentally alert for work than for fat burning) take it with L tyrosine, green tea etc. and 5htp before bed (helps lower adrenal burnout) - No more than 6 weeks @ a time. IMO most of your "fat burning" is still going to come from the calorie deficit from diet and exercise/keeping busy.
I agree. I am taking 50 mcg t4 and 1 tab of regenon. I expect to be ready in 2 weeks
Title: Re: Getting ripped
Post by: wavelength on January 06, 2012, 09:17:37 AM
haha right!!

Maybe I should ask him for advices on geting ripped eating cake and drinking wine lol

I'm here bro, shoot