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Title: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 04:35:11 AM
Obama calls for halt to Texas execution
Mexican was convicted of raping, killing San Antonio girl
By MARK SHERMAN
ASSOCIATED PRESS
July 1, 2011, 6:42PM
 
Texas Department of Criminal Justice
Humberto Leal, shown in a 1995 booking photo, wasn't told he could contact the Mexican Consulate after his arrest.
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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration took the unusual step Friday of asking the Supreme Court to stop Texas from executing a Mexican citizen convicted of raping and killing a 16-year-old girl.
The administration said the court should delay the planned July 7 execution of Humberto Leal for up to six months to give Congress time to consider legislation that would directly affect Leal's case.
The 38-year-old native of Monterrey wasn't told he could contact the Mexican Consulate after his arrest in the murder of Adria Sauceda. His lawyers say police violated an international treaty by not telling Leal he could have consular assistance.
Legislation pending in the Senate would allow federal courts to review cases of condemned foreign nationals to determine if the lack of consular help made a significant difference in the outcome of their cases. Last week, a federal judge refused to delay the execution.
The Supreme Court has previously ruled that states can't be forced to comply with the provisions of treaties without some intervening federal legislation.
The federal government rarely intervenes in state death penalty cases. The thrust of the administration's legal argument deals with the government's international treaty obligations, not Leal's guilt or innocence, or even whether he should ultimately be executed.
"This case implicates United States foreign-policy interests of the highest order," including protecting U.S. citizens abroad and promoting good relations with other countries, Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr. said. Verrilli, the administration's new chief Supreme Court lawyer, has long represented death row inmates free of charge in his private practice.

State Department legal adviser Harold Koh separately has written Gov. Rick Perry and other Texas officials asking them to step in and put off the execution.

The administration's legal filing was provided by Leal's lawyers. The Justice Department did not immediately comment Friday.

The Mexican government and other countries have joined the legal fight to grant Leal a reprieve.

Police discovered Sauceda's nude body on a dirt road in San Antonio in May 1994. Evidence showed she had been raped, bitten and strangled. A large stick that had a screw protruding from it was left in her body.
Among other evidence, the bite mark was matched to Leal. Her bloody blouse was found at Leal's home. She and Leal had been attending a party not far from where she was found.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 04:36:15 AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7636361.html



Hope and change bitches.   

4 more years.   4 more years!   
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 02, 2011, 05:03:08 AM
Obama calls for halt to Texas execution
Mexican was convicted of raping, killing San Antonio girl
By MARK SHERMAN
ASSOCIATED PRESS
July 1, 2011, 6:42PM
 
Texas Department of Criminal Justice
Humberto Leal, shown in a 1995 booking photo, wasn't told he could contact the Mexican Consulate after his arrest.
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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration took the unusual step Friday of asking the Supreme Court to stop Texas from executing a Mexican citizen convicted of raping and killing a 16-year-old girl.
The administration said the court should delay the planned July 7 execution of Humberto Leal for up to six months to give Congress time to consider legislation that would directly affect Leal's case.
The 38-year-old native of Monterrey wasn't told he could contact the Mexican Consulate after his arrest in the murder of Adria Sauceda. His lawyers say police violated an international treaty by not telling Leal he could have consular assistance.
Legislation pending in the Senate would allow federal courts to review cases of condemned foreign nationals to determine if the lack of consular help made a significant difference in the outcome of their cases. Last week, a federal judge refused to delay the execution.
The Supreme Court has previously ruled that states can't be forced to comply with the provisions of treaties without some intervening federal legislation.
The federal government rarely intervenes in state death penalty cases. The thrust of the administration's legal argument deals with the government's international treaty obligations, not Leal's guilt or innocence, or even whether he should ultimately be executed.
"This case implicates United States foreign-policy interests of the highest order," including protecting U.S. citizens abroad and promoting good relations with other countries, Solicitor General Donald Verrilli Jr. said. Verrilli, the administration's new chief Supreme Court lawyer, has long represented death row inmates free of charge in his private practice.

State Department legal adviser Harold Koh separately has written Gov. Rick Perry and other Texas officials asking them to step in and put off the execution.

The administration's legal filing was provided by Leal's lawyers. The Justice Department did not immediately comment Friday.

The Mexican government and other countries have joined the legal fight to grant Leal a reprieve.

Police discovered Sauceda's nude body on a dirt road in San Antonio in May 1994. Evidence showed she had been raped, bitten and strangled. A large stick that had a screw protruding from it was left in her body.
Among other evidence, the bite mark was matched to Leal. Her bloody blouse was found at Leal's home. She and Leal had been attending a party not far from where she was found.



President Bush's administration had done this in a similar cases as has Clinton and Reagan.  Its actually occurs regularly as it has to deal with international relations rather than guilt or innocence.  If we want other countries to respect American's traveling abroad charged with crimes to speak to a consular, then we have to do the same... ::)
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 05:06:15 AM
Mexico is now seeking payback as a result of Obama sending assault weapons over the border.   

This illegal savage needs to be hung.   Tell Mexico to find another case to make an example of.   
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Kazan on July 02, 2011, 05:22:57 AM
Maybe I missed it in the article, but I doesn't say if he was here legally. Regardless foreign nationals should not get a free pass to come into this country and commit heinous crimes.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 02, 2011, 05:41:58 AM
Maybe I missed it in the article, but I doesn't say if he was here legally. Regardless foreign nationals should not get a free pass to come into this country and commit heinous crimes.


In all the cases where the administration has intervened, there's never been any change in their fate.  He will still be executed.  Its just a matter of clearing up an issue that the state forgot to do. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 05:44:18 AM
Obama could care less. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 02, 2011, 05:48:31 AM
BTW, I checked Fox News and there's a quite different story

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/01/un-official-calls-for-texas-governor-to-block-execution-mexican-national/?test=latestnews

A top United Nations official is urging the governor of Texas to call off the execution of a Mexican national convicted of murder because he was not told of his right for diplomatic advice when he was arrested, according to Reuters.

U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay is calling for Gov. Rick Perry to commute the sentence to life in prison for Humberto Leal Garcia. Garcia was convicted of raping and killing a 16-year-old girl in February 1998.

"The lack of consular assistance and advice raises concerns about whether or not Mr. Leal Garcia's right to a fair trial was fully upheld," Rupert Colville, Pillay's spokesman, told Reuters.

Colville says that Garcia should have been informed that he was allowed diplomatic assistance when he was arrested. He also says this has been a "continuous problem" for the U.S. that authorities fail to inform foreign nationals of their consular rights, according to Reuters.

Several former U.S. law enforcement officials and ex-diplomats appealed last month that Garcia's execution be blocked, arguing it puts the safety of Americans at risk abroad.

But Perry apparently doesn't plan to take his cues from the U.N.

"The governor would have to receive a favorable recommendation from the Board of Pardons and Paroles to consider the clemency requested," a spokesperson for the governor told Reuters.

Click here for more on this report from Reuters.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/01/un-official-calls-for-texas-governor-to-block-execution-mexican-national/#ixzz1Qx3Zd84P



Funny that there is no report about the Obama administration stepping in.  While they have in cases, it appears that they haven't and your source of the report appears to have been modified significantly to suit a particular audience....... ::)
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 05:59:56 AM
Consular assistance means whisking this guy to freedom and then texas being forced to seek extradition. 

Screw that.  Btw - I am sure mexico is going to get its pound of flesh in on this as obamas deadly incompetence comes to light that resulted in deaths in mexico. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 06:07:10 AM
Vince can you read?   Obama asked the supreme court to halt the execution.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Skip8282 on July 02, 2011, 06:22:47 AM
Funny that there is no report about the Obama administration stepping in.  While they have in cases, it appears that they haven't and your source of the report appears to have been modified significantly to suit a particular audience....... ::)




Here's the brief from the SG.

http://sblog.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/SG-amicus-in-Leal-execution-7-1-11.pdf

::)
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 06:29:16 AM
Vince, like the other members of TK, would and will defend anything obama does.  Anything!  Obama is the messiah and can do no wrong to a certain segment of the population.

Funny too, mexico is probably forcing this to make obama look bad in wake of the fast and furious fiasco to where obama sent aks and ars over the border w deadly results. 

Funny too that obama chooses this case to make an example of. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 02, 2011, 06:31:48 AM
Vince, like the other members of TK, would and will defend anything obama does.  Anything!  Obama is the messiah and can do no wrong to a certain segment of the population.

Funny too, mexico is probably forcing this to make obama look bad in wake of the fast and furious fiasco to where obama sent aks and ars over the border w deadly results. 

Funny too that obama chooses this case to make an example of. 


No, I simply don't like your gross misrepresentation of people in addition to your complete ignorance in politics. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Skip8282 on July 02, 2011, 06:36:29 AM

No, I simply don't like your gross misrepresentation of people in addition to your complete ignorance in politics. 



Yeah, kinda like tards who read something on Fox and then think that something else didn't happen....oh wait...
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 06:38:20 AM
95 percent is a fact. Sorry its so uncomfortable for you to accept. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 02, 2011, 06:43:54 AM


Yeah, kinda like tards who read something on Fox and then think that something else didn't happen....oh wait...


Fox News is a conservative news group and are always looking for dirt on Obama.  But the sad fact is that some moron is taking general government business and turning it into some political agenda.  The guy was not told that he could have access to a Mexican consul and they are checking to make sure it didn't have any bearing on the verdict to prevent an international issue.   

Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 06:48:05 AM
Sorry dipshit - trying to advocate for an illegal rapist and murder is a political event since obama is doing this for political reasons. 

Now that obamas deadly failures w fast and furious have come to light - mexico is going to get obama to do a lot of nasty shit as payback.

Too bad the family of this girl will suffer. 

I hope perry tells obama to fuck off and stay on the golf course, which is where he belongs.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Skip8282 on July 02, 2011, 06:54:28 AM

Fox News is a conservative news group and are always looking for dirt on Obama.  But the sad fact is that some moron is taking general government business and turning it into some political agenda.  The guy was not told that he could have access to a Mexican consul and they are checking to make sure it didn't have any bearing on the verdict to prevent an international issue.   





All government business is political, right down to the implementation, negotiation, and management of waterways and sewers.

As to the case, Texas appears to be arguing that the intervening law was not, and is not in effect.  The SG doesn't appear to be denying this, but rather asking for more time to put it into effect and then retroactively apply it to the case.  And this is assumes that the Fed. Gov. will actually even pass the legislation.

And the whole "international issue" is a bunch of bunk.  This has been going on forever and a day and they still claim Americans are broad will be in danger, blah blah.  Haven't heard that one before.  ::)
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 02, 2011, 07:02:02 AM
If some american citizen were in mexico and raped and killed a teenager, well - fuck him and let him die, he chose that by committing the act.

So long as this illegal savage and animal got a fair trial and was found guilty and the evidence shows he did it - fry his fucking ass.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: roccoginge on July 03, 2011, 01:14:56 AM
Mexico is now seeking payback as a result of Obama sending assault weapons over the border.   

This illegal savage needs to be hung.   Tell Mexico to find another case to make an example of.   
You sound like the savage.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2011, 04:39:11 AM
If it were your kid raped and killed, I'm sure you would not be so thrilled w obama. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2011, 07:09:14 AM


All government business is political, right down to the implementation, negotiation, and management of waterways and sewers.

As to the case, Texas appears to be arguing that the intervening law was not, and is not in effect.  The SG doesn't appear to be denying this, but rather asking for more time to put it into effect and then retroactively apply it to the case.  And this is assumes that the Fed. Gov. will actually even pass the legislation.

And the whole "international issue" is a bunch of bunk.  This has been going on forever and a day and they still claim Americans are broad will be in danger, blah blah.  Haven't heard that one before.  ::)


My point was that the Bush Administration would have done the same thing and has done the same things in similiar situations.  Its not a political issue but a judical issue that was raised by defense team for the convicted guy to try to halt the execution date.  Its pretty much part of the appeals process
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2011, 07:16:53 AM
Blame bush - barf. 

Obama is pandering to the hispoanics again.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2011, 07:35:13 AM
I really hope obama and you far leftist freaks keep this insanity up.  Seriously, keep up the treason and commie shit.   Obama will lose than mondale if he keeps this up. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2011, 07:49:08 AM
Blame bush - barf. 

Obama is pandering to the hispoanics again.


Clean the wax out of your ears.  People have a right to appeal their cases before they are put to death.  Even Fox News hasn't even bothered on a report because it amounts to absolutely nothing. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2011, 07:50:58 AM
Is he appealling based on innocence that he never committed the crime? 

Yes or no? 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 03, 2011, 09:17:58 AM
Is he appealling based on innocence that he never committed the crime? 

Yes or no? 

Doesn't matter what he's appealing for, its his right to do so.  All people convicted of crimes have a right to appeal their convictions. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: George Whorewell on July 03, 2011, 09:23:25 AM
Doesn't matter what he's appealing for, its his right to do so.  All people convicted of crimes have a right to appeal their convictions. 

 ::)

Shut the fuck up you sissy.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 03, 2011, 09:57:49 AM
He was convicted in 1995 if I am not mistaken. 

I'm sure he has already appealled many times, not once related to guilt or innocence of the crime this disgusting animal committed.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 04, 2011, 04:48:23 AM
He was convicted in 1995 if I am not mistaken.  

I'm sure he has already appealled many times, not once related to guilt or innocence of the crime this disgusting animal committed.


Why don't you go and do some research on it or call his attorney.  And so what if he's appealed before, you simply can't put someone to death that easily.  A good attorney does everything he can to keep his client from being executed even accusing the state of violating international law.  The administration intervening is more than likely going to make things quicker for the execution date because the ruling on the matter will be faster. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 04, 2011, 04:59:10 AM
BTW...thought I'd show you this... ;D


Medellin vs Texas

Facts of the Case:

Jose Medellin, a Mexican national, was convicted and sentenced to death for participating in the gang rape and murder of two teenage girls in Houston. Medellin raised a post-conviction challenge arguing that the state had violated his rights under the Vienna Convention, a treaty to which the United States is a party. Article 36 of the Vienna Convention gives any foreign national detained for a crime the right to contact his consulate. After his petition was ultimately dismissed by the Supreme Court (see Medellin v. Dretke), Medellin's case returned to the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals. Medellin's argument rested in part on a ruling of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) holding that the U.S. had violated the Vienna Convention rights of 51 Mexican nationals (including Medellin) and that their convictions must be reconsidered. Medellin argued that the Vienna Convention granted him an individual right that state courts must respect, a possibility left open by the Supreme Court's 2006 decision in Sanchez-Llamas v. Oregon. Medellin also cited a memorandum from the President of the United States that instructed state courts to comply with the ICJ's rulings by rehearing the cases. Medellin argued that the Constitution gives the President broad power to ensure that treaties are enforced, and that this power extends to the treatment of treaties in state court proceedings.

The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals rejected each of Medellin's arguments and dismissed his petition. The court interpreted Sanchez-Llamas as standing for the principle that rulings of the ICJ are not binding on state courts. The Texas court stood by its position that allowing Medellin to raise the Vienna Convention issue after his trial would violate state procedural rules, and that those rules were not supplanted by the Convention. The President had no authority to order the enforcement in state court of an ICJ ruling, because that would imply a law-making power not allocated to him by the Constitution.
Question:

    Did the President act within his constitutional and statutory foreign affairs authority when he determined that states must comply with the U.S. treaty obligation under the Vienna Convention by enforcing a decision of the International Court of Justice?

    Does the Constitution require state courts to honor the treaty obligation of the U.S. by enforcing a decision of the International Court of Justice?

Conclusion:

The Court upheld the rulings of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals in a 6-3 opinion written by Chief Justice John G. Roberts. The Court held that the signed Protocol of the Vienna Convention did not make the treaty self- executing and, therefore, the treaty is not binding upon state courts until it is enacted into law by Congress. Furthermore, Chief Justice Roberts characterized the presidential memorandum as an attempt by the executive branch to enforce a non-self executing treaty without the necessary Congressional action, giving it no binding authority on state courts. Justice John Paul Stevens concurred in the opinion and Justice Stephen Breyer, joined by Justices David Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, authored a dissent.



Exact same circimstances but guess who was President at the time....

(http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/elections/18232d1208535016-did-obama-stick-his-middle-finger-bushfinger.jpg)
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 04, 2011, 05:09:46 AM
Who gives a fuck?  I hated george bush for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on July 04, 2011, 06:54:37 AM
Looks like Vince has decided to make the political board his new home away from home and school some of us like he does in the ways of body building. We are fucked.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 04, 2011, 09:10:06 AM
Consular assistance means whisking this guy to freedom and then texas being forced to seek extradition. 

Screw that.  Btw - I am sure mexico is going to get its pound of flesh in on this as obamas deadly incompetence comes to light that resulted in deaths in mexico. 

No that's not what it means. Notifying the consular doesn't mean releasing him to mexican officials. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 04, 2011, 11:23:25 AM
So did that in any impact on this dirtbags' innocence or guilt? 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2011, 05:42:56 AM
Obama And The U.N. Trying To Delay Texas’ Execution Of Humberto Leal
The Cypress Times ^ | 7-4-2011 | John G. Winder


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Obama And The U.N. Trying To Delay Texas’ Execution Of Humberto Leal
John G. Winder, The Cypress Times

July 4, 2011

Leal is a Mexican national who kidnapped, raped and murdered a 16-year old girl


WASHINGTON, DC – The Obama administration has gone to the Supreme Court to seek a delay of the execution of convicted kidnapper, rapist and murderer Humberto Leal. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights has written a letter to Texas Governor Rick Perry asking him to commute Leal’s death sentence.

In 1994 Humberto Leal, a Mexican national, viciously abducted, raped and murdered 16-year old Adria Sauceda.

The media has provided  coverage on how Texas is denying Mr. Leal's rights, yet little has been reported on the details of the vicious and cruel murder for which Mr. Leal was convicted. 

Facts of the case from Texas Attorney General Gregg Abbott

In May 20, 1994, sixteen-year-old Adria Sauceda and Humberto Leal were at a party. At some point an intoxicated but conscious Sauceda was placed in Leal’s car, and Leal got in the vehicle and drove away.

About thirty minutes later, Leal’s brother arrived at the party and yelled that Leal had come home with blood on him saying he had killed a girl.

Several of the party members went looking for Sauceda in the same general area where the party was held. They called police after they found her nude body on a dirt road. They noticed Sauceda’s head had been bashed in and it was bleeding.

When the police arrived, they saw the nude Sauceda lying on her back. There was a 30- to 40 pound chunk of asphalt lying partially on Sauceda's left arm. Blood was underneath this rock. A smaller rock with blood on it was located near Sauceda’s right thigh. Sauceda’s head was splattered with blood. There was a bloody and broken stick protruding from Sauceda’s vagina.

Later that day, police questioned Leal and searched his house. Police seized a blouse belonging to Sauceda that contained several blood stains, hair and fibers. The police also confiscated Leal’s clothing from the night of the murder. Blood and other bodily fluid were found on Leal’s underwear. Police found blood stains on the passenger door and seat of Leal’s car. Police later arrested Leal at his home.

A medical examiner testified that Sauceda died from blows to the head and that based on the injuries to her head, she would had to have been struck with the rock two or three times. The medical examiner said Sauceda’s neck also contained injuries consistent with manual strangulation and that she had three bite marks on her body that matched dental impressions of Leal’s teeth.

Leal admitted at his trial that as he was taking Sauceda from the party he turned in the opposite direction from the way she had directed him to drive and when she attempted to get out of his car he refused to allow her to do so. He testified that when Sauceda finally did exit his car, he attempted to pull her back, but said she began hitting, pushing, and scratching his face. He testified that when Sauceda scratched him, he pushed her, felt something wet on the back of her head, shook her in an unsuccessful attempt to wake her, and then fled in fear when he saw bubbles coming out of her nose.
.................





The Obama Administration’s Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli, Jr. has presented a friend-of-the-court brief to the Supreme Court saying Leal’s execution by the State of Texas would, "place the United States in irreparable breach of its international-law obligation to afford (Leal) review and reconsideration of his claim that his conviction and sentence were prejudiced by Texas authorities' failure to provide consular notification and assistance under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations."

Obama’s administration asserts that Leal, who was an illegal alien living in Texas from the age of 2 to the time of the murder at age 34, was not offered access to a Mexican consular official at the time of his arrest.


Rupert Colville, a spokesman for Navi Pillay, the U.N High Commissioner of Human Rights said, “The lack of consular assistance and advice raises concerns about whether or not Mr. Leal's right to a fair trial was fully upheld.”

The U.N. Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary of arbitrary execution, Christof Heyns, told CNN International, "If the scheduled execution of Mr. Leal Garcia goes ahead, the United States government will have implemented a death penalty after a trial that did not comply with due process rights."


"This will be tantamount to an arbitrary deprivation of life," Heyns said.

No, Mr. Heyns raping and beating a 16-year old girl to death with a block of asphault is arbitrary deprivation of life.  Carrying out the death penalty against someone so callous and indifferent is called Justice.



Not good enough for President Obama.  The Obama administration said in its brief to the Supreme Court, that delaying the execution of Leal would serve the interests of the United States as well as Leal’s interest.


"These interests include protecting Americans abroad, fostering cooperation with foreign nations, and demonstrating respect for the international rule of law."

I would like to see Mr. Obama demonstrate respect for U.S. law.



Leal has been found guilty by a jury of 12 United States Citizens. The facts were presented in a U.S. court according to the laws of the United States of America and the laws of the State of Texas. Mr. Leal had legal representation at his trial.


The Obama administration lost this same argument in district court already. The court of appeals has refused the Obama administration’s attempt to gain a delay in the execution of Leal.  


Now, Mr. Obama presses the Supreme Court saying Leal’s execution “would have serious repercussions for United States foreign relations, law enforcement and other cooperation with Mexico, and the ability of American citizens traveling abroad to have the benefits of consular assistance in the event of detention."


Reality check: Can it get any worse in Mexico?  Would executing Leal, a convicted child-rapist, cause more drugs to come illegally across our border?  Would Leal’s execution cause more ICE agents to be murdered?


Texas has already issued a warning to American citizens advising them in the strongest terms possible not to travel to Mexico over the July 4th holiday weekend because of impending plans by the Los Zetas drug cartel to specifically target Americans in Nuevo Laredo.


Mr. Obama seems hell-bent to prevent the people of the United States from protecting themselves in anyway from death, drugs and economic ruin at the hands of Mexico. 



Here are some more facts about Mr. Leal’s case and how he came to be on Texas death row.




PROCEDURAL HISTORY OF LEAL’S CASE

08/17/94 - A Bexar County grand jury indicted Leal for capital murder.
07/11/95 - A Bexar County jury convicted Leal of capital murder.
09/17/97 - Leal filed an original application for a state writ of habeas corpus.
02/04/98 - Leal’s conviction and sentence were affirmed by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals.
02/22/99 - The Supreme Court denied Leal’s petition for certiorari challenging his conviction and sentence.
10/20/99 - The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied state habeas relief.
03/14/00 - Leal filed a petition for a federal writ of habeas corpus.
03/20/00 - Leal’s petition for certiorari challenging the denial of his first state habeas application was denied.
10/20/04 - A San Antonio federal district court denied habeas relief.
03/24/05 -Leal filed his second state habeas application.
10/13/05 -The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit denied a certificate of appealability and affirmed the district court’s denial of Leal’s first federal habeas petition.
04/17/06 - The Supreme Court denied Leal’s petition for certiorari relief challenging the Fifth Circuit court’s denial of a certificate of appealability.
03/07/07 - The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals dismissed Leal’s second state application as an abuse of the writ.
03/14/07 - Leal filed his second federal habeas petition.
12/17/07 - A San Antonio federal district court dismissed Leal’s second federal habeas petition for lack of jurisdiction.
03/31/08 - The Supreme Court denied Leal’s petition for certiorari challenging the denial of his second state habeas application.
06/02/08 - Leal filed a motion for DNA testing in the trial court.
10/10/08 - The trial court denied Leal’s motion for DNA testing.
12/03/08 - The Texas Court of Appeals dismissed for want of jurisdiction Leal’s appeal of the trial court’s denial of DNA testing.
06/24/09 - The Fifth Circuit court reversed the federal district court’s holding that it lacked jurisdiction to consider Leal’s second federal habeas petition but nonetheless dismissed with prejudice based on Medellin v. Texas.
11/18/09 - The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied Leal’s appeal of the trial court’s denial of DNA testing.
12/01/09 - Leal filed a Section 1983 lawsuit in federal district court.
04/21/10 - The federal district court dismissed Leal’s 1983 lawsuit without prejudice.

11/08/10 - The Bexar County trial court scheduled Leal’s execution for July 7, 2011.
03/28/11 - Leal and fellow death-row inmate Cleve Foster filed a lawsuit in a Travis County state district court challenging the lethal-injection protocol under the Texas Administrative Procedure Act.
04/28/11 - The Travis County court dismissed Leal’s lawsuit for want of jurisdiction.
05/18/11 - Leal filed a motion to amend his 1983 suit in a San Antonio federal district court.
06/07/11 - Leal filed a clemency petition with the Board of Pardons and Paroles.
06/10/11 - The Texas Court of Appeals affirmed the Travis County district court’s decision.
06/10/11 - Leal filed a motion for an evidentiary hearing in a San Antonio federal district court
06/14/11 - Leal filed a request for a temporary restraining order in a San Antonio federal district court.
06/16/11 - Leal filed his third federal habeas petition in district court and a motion for a stay of execution, a motion to stay and abate, a motion to consolidate this proceeding with his last federal habeas proceeding, and a 60(b) motion.
06/17/11 – Leal filed a petition for review with the Texas Supreme Court on the ruling of the Texas Third Court of Appeals on the lawsuit in a Travis County state district court that challenged the lethal-injection protocol under the Texas Administrative Procedure Act.
06/20/11 – Leal’s 1983 suit and request for a temporary restraining order were dismissed by a federal district court. Leal filed a notice of appeal on his 1983 suit.
06/21/11 – A federal district court denied Leal’s motion to open his second federal habeas petition and stay of execution. The court also denied his motion to consolidate with his third petition. The third habeas petition is pending.
06/22/11 – A federal district court dismissed Leal’s third federal habeas application without prejudice.
06/23/11 – Leal filed a second subsequent application for post-conviction writ of habeas corpus and a motion for a stay of execution in the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals.
06/27/11 - Leal filed a motion for emergency relief in the Texas Supreme Court.
06/27/11 – The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied Leal’s application for a post-conviction writ of habeas corpus and his motion for a stay of execution.
06/28/11 –- Leal filed two motions for a stay, a cert petition and a petition for a writ of habeas corpus in the U.S. Supreme Court.
06/30/11 –- Leal filed a motion for a certificate of appealability in the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit appealing the dismissal of his third federal habeas petition.
06/30/11 -- The Texas Supreme Court denied Leal's petition for review on the ruling of the Texas Third Court of Appeals on the lawsuit in a Travis County state district court that challenged the lethal-injection protocol under the Texas Administrative Procedure Act. The court also denied Leal's motion for emergency relief this morning.
Leal’s clemency application remains pending.


Why is the President of the United States so interested in this case?  Why is the U.N. trying to pressure a sovereign state into bending to its rule?  Have any of these people ever met Rick Perry?  Don’t they know that “Don’t Mess With Texas” is more than a slogan?


Texas Governor Rick Perry will sleep just fine on Thursday night, the scheduled date of Leal’s execution.  Texans will all sleep better knowing a murderer of children will not return to those streets to murder again.


I have served on a jury in a murder trial.  Our jury convicted and the accused was given the death penalty.  In Texas a jury doesn’t gather around a table and say, “Let’s give this guy the death penalty.” In order for the death penalty to be applied, there must be evidence that the person convicted of murder might harm someone again if ever released back into society.

The jury in the Leal case had that evidence presented during the punishment phase of Leal’s trial and they learned that two weeks before Sauceda’s murder, Leal sexually assaulted another teenage girl and bit her on the neck.

The jury also learned that, following that assault, Leal had repeatedly telephoned the girl’s older sister and threatened to have someone kill her if she testified against him.


Humberto Leal received a fair trial, was found guilty, and was sentenced to death.

Why Barack Obama is trying, once again, to insinuate himself into the laws of a sovereign state and to defy the will of the people is beyond comprehension.

There is plenty on your plate already, Mr. President. Not the least of which may soon be an announcement that Rick Perry is running for President.


________________________ ________________________ ____

Hey Vince - now go home and get your fucking shine box.   
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 05, 2011, 05:47:21 AM
Obama And The U.N. Trying To Delay Texas’ Execution Of Humberto Leal
The Cypress Times ^ | 7-4-2011 | John G. Winder


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Obama And The U.N. Trying To Delay Texas’ Execution Of Humberto Leal
John G. Winder, The Cypress Times

July 4, 2011

Leal is a Mexican national who kidnapped, raped and murdered a 16-year old girl


WASHINGTON, DC – The Obama administration has gone to the Supreme Court to seek a delay of the execution of convicted kidnapper, rapist and murderer Humberto Leal. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights has written a letter to Texas Governor Rick Perry asking him to commute Leal’s death sentence.

In 1994 Humberto Leal, a Mexican national, viciously abducted, raped and murdered 16-year old Adria Sauceda.

The media has provided  coverage on how Texas is denying Mr. Leal's rights, yet little has been reported on the details of the vicious and cruel murder for which Mr. Leal was convicted. 

Facts of the case from Texas Attorney General Gregg Abbott

In May 20, 1994, sixteen-year-old Adria Sauceda and Humberto Leal were at a party. At some point an intoxicated but conscious Sauceda was placed in Leal’s car, and Leal got in the vehicle and drove away.

About thirty minutes later, Leal’s brother arrived at the party and yelled that Leal had come home with blood on him saying he had killed a girl.

Several of the party members went looking for Sauceda in the same general area where the party was held. They called police after they found her nude body on a dirt road. They noticed Sauceda’s head had been bashed in and it was bleeding.

When the police arrived, they saw the nude Sauceda lying on her back. There was a 30- to 40 pound chunk of asphalt lying partially on Sauceda's left arm. Blood was underneath this rock. A smaller rock with blood on it was located near Sauceda’s right thigh. Sauceda’s head was splattered with blood. There was a bloody and broken stick protruding from Sauceda’s vagina.

Later that day, police questioned Leal and searched his house. Police seized a blouse belonging to Sauceda that contained several blood stains, hair and fibers. The police also confiscated Leal’s clothing from the night of the murder. Blood and other bodily fluid were found on Leal’s underwear. Police found blood stains on the passenger door and seat of Leal’s car. Police later arrested Leal at his home.

A medical examiner testified that Sauceda died from blows to the head and that based on the injuries to her head, she would had to have been struck with the rock two or three times. The medical examiner said Sauceda’s neck also contained injuries consistent with manual strangulation and that she had three bite marks on her body that matched dental impressions of Leal’s teeth.

Leal admitted at his trial that as he was taking Sauceda from the party he turned in the opposite direction from the way she had directed him to drive and when she attempted to get out of his car he refused to allow her to do so. He testified that when Sauceda finally did exit his car, he attempted to pull her back, but said she began hitting, pushing, and scratching his face. He testified that when Sauceda scratched him, he pushed her, felt something wet on the back of her head, shook her in an unsuccessful attempt to wake her, and then fled in fear when he saw bubbles coming out of her nose.
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The Obama Administration’s Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli, Jr. has presented a friend-of-the-court brief to the Supreme Court saying Leal’s execution by the State of Texas would, "place the United States in irreparable breach of its international-law obligation to afford (Leal) review and reconsideration of his claim that his conviction and sentence were prejudiced by Texas authorities' failure to provide consular notification and assistance under the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations."

Obama’s administration asserts that Leal, who was an illegal alien living in Texas from the age of 2 to the time of the murder at age 34, was not offered access to a Mexican consular official at the time of his arrest.


Rupert Colville, a spokesman for Navi Pillay, the U.N High Commissioner of Human Rights said, “The lack of consular assistance and advice raises concerns about whether or not Mr. Leal's right to a fair trial was fully upheld.”

The U.N. Special Rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary of arbitrary execution, Christof Heyns, told CNN International, "If the scheduled execution of Mr. Leal Garcia goes ahead, the United States government will have implemented a death penalty after a trial that did not comply with due process rights."


"This will be tantamount to an arbitrary deprivation of life," Heyns said.

No, Mr. Heyns raping and beating a 16-year old girl to death with a block of asphault is arbitrary deprivation of life.  Carrying out the death penalty against someone so callous and indifferent is called Justice.



Not good enough for President Obama.  The Obama administration said in its brief to the Supreme Court, that delaying the execution of Leal would serve the interests of the United States as well as Leal’s interest.


"These interests include protecting Americans abroad, fostering cooperation with foreign nations, and demonstrating respect for the international rule of law."

I would like to see Mr. Obama demonstrate respect for U.S. law.



Leal has been found guilty by a jury of 12 United States Citizens. The facts were presented in a U.S. court according to the laws of the United States of America and the laws of the State of Texas. Mr. Leal had legal representation at his trial.


The Obama administration lost this same argument in district court already. The court of appeals has refused the Obama administration’s attempt to gain a delay in the execution of Leal.  


Now, Mr. Obama presses the Supreme Court saying Leal’s execution “would have serious repercussions for United States foreign relations, law enforcement and other cooperation with Mexico, and the ability of American citizens traveling abroad to have the benefits of consular assistance in the event of detention."


Reality check: Can it get any worse in Mexico?  Would executing Leal, a convicted child-rapist, cause more drugs to come illegally across our border?  Would Leal’s execution cause more ICE agents to be murdered?


Texas has already issued a warning to American citizens advising them in the strongest terms possible not to travel to Mexico over the July 4th holiday weekend because of impending plans by the Los Zetas drug cartel to specifically target Americans in Nuevo Laredo.


Mr. Obama seems hell-bent to prevent the people of the United States from protecting themselves in anyway from death, drugs and economic ruin at the hands of Mexico. 



Here are some more facts about Mr. Leal’s case and how he came to be on Texas death row.




PROCEDURAL HISTORY OF LEAL’S CASE

08/17/94 - A Bexar County grand jury indicted Leal for capital murder.
07/11/95 - A Bexar County jury convicted Leal of capital murder.
09/17/97 - Leal filed an original application for a state writ of habeas corpus.
02/04/98 - Leal’s conviction and sentence were affirmed by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals.
02/22/99 - The Supreme Court denied Leal’s petition for certiorari challenging his conviction and sentence.
10/20/99 - The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied state habeas relief.
03/14/00 - Leal filed a petition for a federal writ of habeas corpus.
03/20/00 - Leal’s petition for certiorari challenging the denial of his first state habeas application was denied.
10/20/04 - A San Antonio federal district court denied habeas relief.
03/24/05 -Leal filed his second state habeas application.
10/13/05 -The United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit denied a certificate of appealability and affirmed the district court’s denial of Leal’s first federal habeas petition.
04/17/06 - The Supreme Court denied Leal’s petition for certiorari relief challenging the Fifth Circuit court’s denial of a certificate of appealability.
03/07/07 - The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals dismissed Leal’s second state application as an abuse of the writ.
03/14/07 - Leal filed his second federal habeas petition.
12/17/07 - A San Antonio federal district court dismissed Leal’s second federal habeas petition for lack of jurisdiction.
03/31/08 - The Supreme Court denied Leal’s petition for certiorari challenging the denial of his second state habeas application.
06/02/08 - Leal filed a motion for DNA testing in the trial court.
10/10/08 - The trial court denied Leal’s motion for DNA testing.
12/03/08 - The Texas Court of Appeals dismissed for want of jurisdiction Leal’s appeal of the trial court’s denial of DNA testing.
06/24/09 - The Fifth Circuit court reversed the federal district court’s holding that it lacked jurisdiction to consider Leal’s second federal habeas petition but nonetheless dismissed with prejudice based on Medellin v. Texas.
11/18/09 - The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied Leal’s appeal of the trial court’s denial of DNA testing.
12/01/09 - Leal filed a Section 1983 lawsuit in federal district court.
04/21/10 - The federal district court dismissed Leal’s 1983 lawsuit without prejudice.

11/08/10 - The Bexar County trial court scheduled Leal’s execution for July 7, 2011.
03/28/11 - Leal and fellow death-row inmate Cleve Foster filed a lawsuit in a Travis County state district court challenging the lethal-injection protocol under the Texas Administrative Procedure Act.
04/28/11 - The Travis County court dismissed Leal’s lawsuit for want of jurisdiction.
05/18/11 - Leal filed a motion to amend his 1983 suit in a San Antonio federal district court.
06/07/11 - Leal filed a clemency petition with the Board of Pardons and Paroles.
06/10/11 - The Texas Court of Appeals affirmed the Travis County district court’s decision.
06/10/11 - Leal filed a motion for an evidentiary hearing in a San Antonio federal district court
06/14/11 - Leal filed a request for a temporary restraining order in a San Antonio federal district court.
06/16/11 - Leal filed his third federal habeas petition in district court and a motion for a stay of execution, a motion to stay and abate, a motion to consolidate this proceeding with his last federal habeas proceeding, and a 60(b) motion.
06/17/11 – Leal filed a petition for review with the Texas Supreme Court on the ruling of the Texas Third Court of Appeals on the lawsuit in a Travis County state district court that challenged the lethal-injection protocol under the Texas Administrative Procedure Act.
06/20/11 – Leal’s 1983 suit and request for a temporary restraining order were dismissed by a federal district court. Leal filed a notice of appeal on his 1983 suit.
06/21/11 – A federal district court denied Leal’s motion to open his second federal habeas petition and stay of execution. The court also denied his motion to consolidate with his third petition. The third habeas petition is pending.
06/22/11 – A federal district court dismissed Leal’s third federal habeas application without prejudice.
06/23/11 – Leal filed a second subsequent application for post-conviction writ of habeas corpus and a motion for a stay of execution in the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals.
06/27/11 - Leal filed a motion for emergency relief in the Texas Supreme Court.
06/27/11 – The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals denied Leal’s application for a post-conviction writ of habeas corpus and his motion for a stay of execution.
06/28/11 –- Leal filed two motions for a stay, a cert petition and a petition for a writ of habeas corpus in the U.S. Supreme Court.
06/30/11 –- Leal filed a motion for a certificate of appealability in the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit appealing the dismissal of his third federal habeas petition.
06/30/11 -- The Texas Supreme Court denied Leal's petition for review on the ruling of the Texas Third Court of Appeals on the lawsuit in a Travis County state district court that challenged the lethal-injection protocol under the Texas Administrative Procedure Act. The court also denied Leal's motion for emergency relief this morning.
Leal’s clemency application remains pending.


Why is the President of the United States so interested in this case?  Why is the U.N. trying to pressure a sovereign state into bending to its rule?  Have any of these people ever met Rick Perry?  Don’t they know that “Don’t Mess With Texas” is more than a slogan?


Texas Governor Rick Perry will sleep just fine on Thursday night, the scheduled date of Leal’s execution.  Texans will all sleep better knowing a murderer of children will not return to those streets to murder again.


I have served on a jury in a murder trial.  Our jury convicted and the accused was given the death penalty.  In Texas a jury doesn’t gather around a table and say, “Let’s give this guy the death penalty.” In order for the death penalty to be applied, there must be evidence that the person convicted of murder might harm someone again if ever released back into society.

The jury in the Leal case had that evidence presented during the punishment phase of Leal’s trial and they learned that two weeks before Sauceda’s murder, Leal sexually assaulted another teenage girl and bit her on the neck.

The jury also learned that, following that assault, Leal had repeatedly telephoned the girl’s older sister and threatened to have someone kill her if she testified against him.


Humberto Leal received a fair trial, was found guilty, and was sentenced to death.

Why Barack Obama is trying, once again, to insinuate himself into the laws of a sovereign state and to defy the will of the people is beyond comprehension.

There is plenty on your plate already, Mr. President. Not the least of which may soon be an announcement that Rick Perry is running for President.


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Hey Vince - now go home and get your fucking shine box.   


He isn't interested as was Bush wasn't interested in his case.  In order for the process of him being executed proceed, the administrations have to inquire about international law.  Otherwise, it will hold up the execution anyway.  But once they inquire, the appeals court and the state can shoot it down and on goes the execution. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2011, 05:53:50 AM
Oh screw off.   Stop kneepadding this disaster of an admn who is as bad, or worse, than GWB on these issues. 


Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 05, 2011, 07:41:30 AM
If some american citizen were in mexico and raped and killed a teenager, well - fuck him and let him die, he chose that by committing the act.

So long as this illegal savage and animal got a fair trial and was found guilty and the evidence shows he did it - fry his fucking ass.

How does this stance you have on this conflict with your previous stance that police and government are corrupt? It seems you are more than willing to accept the police and D.A.'s work in this case, but have said you have no confidence in police and in fact, argue pretty strongly that police are corrupt. So this mexican national gets tried and found guilty and suddenly you are ready to put him to death... Do you see the hypocrisy? How can YOU ever say "So long as he got a fair trial" when you have repeatedly tried to make a case such a thing doesnt exit?
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2011, 08:00:19 AM
How does this stance you have on this conflict with your previous stance that police and government are corrupt? It seems you are more than willing to accept the police and D.A.'s work in this case, but have said you have no confidence in police and in fact, argue pretty strongly that police are corrupt. So this mexican national gets tried and found guilty and suddenly you are ready to put him to death... Do you see the hypocrisy? How can YOU ever say "So long as he got a fair trial" when you have repeatedly tried to make a case such a thing doesnt exit?


This case was reviewed by many appeals courts numerous times, all the evidence shows he did it, etc.   There is nothing in the record whatsoever even hinting he is anything but guilty as sin.     

And where did I say one can never get a fair trial?   
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 05, 2011, 08:07:05 AM

This case was reviewed by many appeals courts numerous times, all the evidence shows he did it, etc.   There is nothing in the record whatsoever even hinting he is anything but guilty as sin.     

And where did I say one can never get a fair trial?   

Have you not said (I don't want to put words in your mouth) that police are corrupt? Have you not said "Another example of corrupt police and DA" in another case? have you not said government is corrupt? If you believe the police, government and DA's are corrupt, how can you ever argue for the death penalty or accept anyone got a fair trial? What if the police planted evidence? What if the D.A. withheld information that would show his innocence?
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2011, 08:13:38 AM
Have you not said (I don't want to put words in your mouth) that police are corrupt? Have you not said "Another example of corrupt police and DA" in another case? have you not said government is corrupt? If you believe the police, government and DA's are corrupt, how can you ever argue for the death penalty or accept anyone got a fair trial? What if the police planted evidence? What if the D.A. withheld information that would show his innocence?

This guy did not even claim innocence. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 05, 2011, 10:30:04 AM
This guy did not even claim innocence. 

I'm elated by your confidence in the police  ;)
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
I'm elated by your confidence in the police  ;)

The police had little to do with this.   The guys brother said he did it, he commtted sexual assault on others, and is by almost every single point of evidence guilty as sin.   

Personally, I wish they tied this piece of trash to a tree in the desert and let the buzzards eat him.  I have ZERO sympathy whatsoever for these illegal alien savages and barbarians. 

We should set up guard towers and have orders to shoot on sight.    you will see how fast those assholes stay put in mexico.       
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Skip8282 on July 05, 2011, 11:22:12 AM


We should set up guard towers and have orders to shoot on sight.    you will see how fast those assholes stay put in mexico.       


:D

I hate the fact that they sneak in, but I wouldn't cap 'em.  Just because if I was in their situation I would be sneaking in over here too.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2011, 11:24:42 AM

:D

I hate the fact that they sneak in, but I wouldn't cap 'em.  Just because if I was in their situation I would be sneaking in over here too.



If 33 were 300 yards out with a .308 you might think differently. 

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 05, 2011, 08:17:53 PM

Stay rejected for girl's Mexican killer
Texas Board of Pardons and Parole denies request for 180-day reprieve, spurning international clamor
By ALLAN TURNER
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
July 5, 2011, 9:48PM
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Texas thumbed its nose at the White House and the United Nations on Tuesday as it cleared the way for Thursday's execution of Humberto Leal Garcia Jr., a Mexican national who was denied access to his nation's consulate after being arrested for a San Antonio rape-murder.
The Texas Board of Pardons and Parole's 4-1 rejection of Leal's bid for a 180-day reprieve marks the second time in four years that Texas has resisted national and international calls that it observe the U.N.'s Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, which guarantees foreign defendants contact with their governments' representatives.
His fate now rests with the U.S. Supreme Court, which is considering a stay of execution request from the Obama administration.
Leal, 38, was sentenced to die for the May 24, 1994, murder of 16-year-old Adria Sauceda. The girl was found naked on a rural road in San Antonio after being raped and then bludgeoned with a chunk of asphalt.
Acting without a pardons board recommendation, Gov. Rick Perry could grant a 30-day stay. His spokeswoman, Katherine Cesinger, said the governor has not yet decided, but historically he rarely grants such requests.
A reprieve for Leal, if granted by the Supreme Court, might give Congress time to act on a bill introduced by Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, that would provide for federal review of capital cases involving foreigners denied consulate contact.
About 100 convicted killers nationwide would be eligible for such reviews.
Leahy's bill is an outgrowth of a 2004 U.N. world court decision, stemming from a Mexican lawsuit against the United States, that hearings be held for dozens of inmates to determine if their cases had been hurt by their inability to contact their consulates.
In 2005, then-President George W. Bush called for the hearings to take place in state courts. Texas appealed, and in 2008 the Supreme Court held that only Congress could order such hearings.
Ex-diplomats spurned
Tuesday's parole board decision to deny a reprieve came despite a June plea from six former diplomats urging the stay be granted. In a letter to Perry and the board, they warned that the security of Americans detained on charges while traveling or living abroad depends on signers of the Vienna Convention — including the U.S. - honoring their treaty obligations.
The diplomats included Henry Barnes, Jr., former ambassador to Chile, India, Romania and director general of the Foreign Service; former U.S. Sen. James Jones, who was ambassador to Mexico, 1993-1997; Thomas Pickering, former U.N. ambassador; and William Taft IV, former U.S. ambassador to NATO.
Leal's lawyer, Northwestern University law professor Sandra Babcock, said the paroles board also disregarded pleas from military leaders, judges, prosecutors and the federal government in a decision that would "undermine the international interests of the United States."
Not first time in spotlight
Last week, three members of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals - which rejected a separate Leal plea for a stay - suggested that the paroles board and Perry might act in the killer's behalf even though the court could not.

If the Mexican-born Leal, who has lived in the United States since age 2, is executed, it will mark the second time in four years that Texas has defied international demands that it observe the Vienna Convention.
In August 2008, the state executed Mexican citizen Jose Medellin for the 1993 strangulation of two Houston teenagers, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena.

"Texas is not bound by a foreign court's ruling," Cesinger said. "The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2008 that the treaty was not binding on states and that the president does not have authority to order review of cases of foreign nationals on death row in the U.S."
allan.turner@chron.com  
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2011, 04:06:34 AM
Obama: Good U.S.-Mexican relations demand we spare guilty and let innocent die
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 5 July, 2011 | David Codrea
Posted on July 6, 2011 7:17:02 AM EDT by marktwain

“President Barack Obama is attempting to block the execution in Texas on Thursday of a Mexican man because it would breach an international convention and do ‘irreparable harm’ to US interests,” Guardian.co.uk reports.

Humberto Leal Garcia “was convicted in 1994 of the rape and murder of a 16-year-old girl in San Antonio. Few question that he was responsible for the killing but the Texas authorities failed to tell Leal…that under the Vienna convention he was entitled to contact the Mexican consulate when he was arrested.”

Ah. So he did it. But overlooking a procedural step informing this monster of his entitlements under international treaty was overlooked. But he still did it. This big, brave piece of cowardly offal raped and killed a little girl. And 15 years later, the rabid animal is about to be put down—except Obama worries the Mexican government will get mad at us if we do.

How telling that he does not place his emphasis or concern on an operation conducted under the authority of his administration that has resulted in estimates that up to 150 Mexican nationals may have been killed—people who were never given due process and their day on court, that is, people who were legally innocent. And how many more Mexican and U.S. citizens have suffered on our side of the border remains to be seen.

But while occupying their concerns with a treaty-driven entitlement technicality, the administration has stonewalled Congress every step of the way on basic matters of Congressional authority, U.S. law, Mexican law…nope, no chance of doing “irreparable harm to U.S. interests” there…

That may be changing though—at least as far as the administration’s ability to keep up with the directed non-cooperation and at the same time keep the noise level down on it. From Fox News:

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 06, 2011, 05:09:02 AM
Stay rejected for girl's Mexican killer
Texas Board of Pardons and Parole denies request for 180-day reprieve, spurning international clamor
By ALLAN TURNER
HOUSTON CHRONICLE
July 5, 2011, 9:48PM
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Texas thumbed its nose at the White House and the United Nations on Tuesday as it cleared the way for Thursday's execution of Humberto Leal Garcia Jr., a Mexican national who was denied access to his nation's consulate after being arrested for a San Antonio rape-murder.
The Texas Board of Pardons and Parole's 4-1 rejection of Leal's bid for a 180-day reprieve marks the second time in four years that Texas has resisted national and international calls that it observe the U.N.'s Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, which guarantees foreign defendants contact with their governments' representatives.
His fate now rests with the U.S. Supreme Court, which is considering a stay of execution request from the Obama administration.
Leal, 38, was sentenced to die for the May 24, 1994, murder of 16-year-old Adria Sauceda. The girl was found naked on a rural road in San Antonio after being raped and then bludgeoned with a chunk of asphalt.
Acting without a pardons board recommendation, Gov. Rick Perry could grant a 30-day stay. His spokeswoman, Katherine Cesinger, said the governor has not yet decided, but historically he rarely grants such requests.
A reprieve for Leal, if granted by the Supreme Court, might give Congress time to act on a bill introduced by Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, that would provide for federal review of capital cases involving foreigners denied consulate contact.
About 100 convicted killers nationwide would be eligible for such reviews.
Leahy's bill is an outgrowth of a 2004 U.N. world court decision, stemming from a Mexican lawsuit against the United States, that hearings be held for dozens of inmates to determine if their cases had been hurt by their inability to contact their consulates.
In 2005, then-President George W. Bush called for the hearings to take place in state courts. Texas appealed, and in 2008 the Supreme Court held that only Congress could order such hearings.
Ex-diplomats spurned
Tuesday's parole board decision to deny a reprieve came despite a June plea from six former diplomats urging the stay be granted. In a letter to Perry and the board, they warned that the security of Americans detained on charges while traveling or living abroad depends on signers of the Vienna Convention — including the U.S. - honoring their treaty obligations.
The diplomats included Henry Barnes, Jr., former ambassador to Chile, India, Romania and director general of the Foreign Service; former U.S. Sen. James Jones, who was ambassador to Mexico, 1993-1997; Thomas Pickering, former U.N. ambassador; and William Taft IV, former U.S. ambassador to NATO.
Leal's lawyer, Northwestern University law professor Sandra Babcock, said the paroles board also disregarded pleas from military leaders, judges, prosecutors and the federal government in a decision that would "undermine the international interests of the United States."
Not first time in spotlight
Last week, three members of the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals - which rejected a separate Leal plea for a stay - suggested that the paroles board and Perry might act in the killer's behalf even though the court could not.

If the Mexican-born Leal, who has lived in the United States since age 2, is executed, it will mark the second time in four years that Texas has defied international demands that it observe the Vienna Convention.
In August 2008, the state executed Mexican citizen Jose Medellin for the 1993 strangulation of two Houston teenagers, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena.

"Texas is not bound by a foreign court's ruling," Cesinger said. "The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2008 that the treaty was not binding on states and that the president does not have authority to order review of cases of foreign nationals on death row in the U.S."
allan.turner@chron.com  



As I stated, same ruling that the Bush Administration got back in 2006.  Now they can execute the guy as the consul issue has now been addressed.  Its nothing more than a show and tell for international relations.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2011, 05:47:10 AM
These disgusting vermin should not even be here, let alone in a position to commit such heinous crimes. 

Btw - glad you now realize both bush and obama suck. 

I hated bush, but despise obama ten fold more.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 06, 2011, 05:50:12 AM
These disgusting vermin should not even be here, let alone in a position to commit such heinous crimes. 

Btw - glad you now realize both bush and obama suck. 

I hated bush, but despise obama ten fold more.

All politicans are scum.  You have no choice but to put the best of two evils
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 06, 2011, 06:23:56 AM
Barack Obama asks for Texas and Rick Perry to spare Mexican the death penalty
Texas is preparing to execute a Mexican citizen for a gruesome 1994 murder on Thursday despite an appeal by Barack Obama to spare him because he was not granted the consular help required by international law.
 
Death row inmate Humberto Leal Jr. 
 By Toby Harnden, Washington
10:18PM BST 05 Jul 2011




Humberto Leal, 38, a native of Monterrey, Mexico was convicted of the 1994 rape and murder of Adria Sauceda, 16, whose naked body was found with a large stick protruding from her. She had been bitten and her head crushed by a lump of asphalt.

The United States Supreme Court is due to decide whether to issue a stay of execution, which Texas state lawyers insist should go ahead.

If the Supreme Court does not intervene, Leal's fate will lie in the hands of Governor Rick Perry of Texas, who is currently pondering whether to join the 2012 presidential race.

Texas executes more prisoners than any other US state. In his 10 years in office Mr Perry has refused clemency in 230 executions, almost half the 470 executions in Texas since the death penalty was reinstated in 1974.

Among other evidence against Leal, a bite mark was matched to him and the victim's bloody blouse was found at his home. Leal told police that she had attacked him and had fallen and lost consciousness.


Even Leal's lawyers concede that it was "plausible" he was responsible for Miss Sauceda's death. But they contend that if he had been given consular assistance rather than a state-appointed defence lawyer he would probably have been convicted of manslaughter.

The Obama administration, adopting a similar stance to the one taken by President George W Bush's, believes executing Leal could endanger Americans abroad who are also entitled to consular assistance under the Vienna Convention.

"This case implicates United States foreign-policy interests of the highest order," said Donald Verrilli, Mr Obama's Solicitor General in an amicus brief filed in the Supreme Court case.

"The imminent execution of petitioner would place the United States in irreparable breach of its international law obligation."

Executing him, he said, "would have serious repercussions for United States foreign relations, law enforcement and other co-operation with Mexico, and the ability of American citizens travelling abroad to have the benefits of consular assistance in the event of detention".

There is legislation pending in the US Senate would allow federal courts to review cases of condemned foreign nationals to determine whether the lack of consular help made a significant difference in the outcome of their cases.

The United Nations, Amnesty International and a number of former diplomats and military officers have requested that the sentence be commuted to life.

Mr Perry has commuted the death sentences of 31 inmates. Of these, 28 involved cases in which the defendant was a juvenile at the time of the crime and Mr Perry acted after a Supreme Court ruling on the issue.

Polls show that about 65 per cent of Americans favour the death penalty. Mr Perry's enthusiastic backing for the death penalty would be unlikely to be an issue that could harm him in the Republican primaries. It could, however, became an issue in a general election against Mr Obama, who supports the death penalty but is much more willing to consider exclusions.






Same bullshit - different asshole. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 07, 2011, 05:31:10 AM
Barack Obama asks for Texas and Rick Perry to spare Mexican the death penalty
Texas is preparing to execute a Mexican citizen for a gruesome 1994 murder on Thursday despite an appeal by Barack Obama to spare him because he was not granted the consular help required by international law.
 
Death row inmate Humberto Leal Jr. 
 By Toby Harnden, Washington
10:18PM BST 05 Jul 2011




Humberto Leal, 38, a native of Monterrey, Mexico was convicted of the 1994 rape and murder of Adria Sauceda, 16, whose naked body was found with a large stick protruding from her. She had been bitten and her head crushed by a lump of asphalt.

The United States Supreme Court is due to decide whether to issue a stay of execution, which Texas state lawyers insist should go ahead.

If the Supreme Court does not intervene, Leal's fate will lie in the hands of Governor Rick Perry of Texas, who is currently pondering whether to join the 2012 presidential race.

Texas executes more prisoners than any other US state. In his 10 years in office Mr Perry has refused clemency in 230 executions, almost half the 470 executions in Texas since the death penalty was reinstated in 1974.

Among other evidence against Leal, a bite mark was matched to him and the victim's bloody blouse was found at his home. Leal told police that she had attacked him and had fallen and lost consciousness.


Even Leal's lawyers concede that it was "plausible" he was responsible for Miss Sauceda's death. But they contend that if he had been given consular assistance rather than a state-appointed defence lawyer he would probably have been convicted of manslaughter.

The Obama administration, adopting a similar stance to the one taken by President George W Bush's, believes executing Leal could endanger Americans abroad who are also entitled to consular assistance under the Vienna Convention.

"This case implicates United States foreign-policy interests of the highest order," said Donald Verrilli, Mr Obama's Solicitor General in an amicus brief filed in the Supreme Court case.

"The imminent execution of petitioner would place the United States in irreparable breach of its international law obligation."

Executing him, he said, "would have serious repercussions for United States foreign relations, law enforcement and other co-operation with Mexico, and the ability of American citizens travelling abroad to have the benefits of consular assistance in the event of detention".

There is legislation pending in the US Senate would allow federal courts to review cases of condemned foreign nationals to determine whether the lack of consular help made a significant difference in the outcome of their cases.

The United Nations, Amnesty International and a number of former diplomats and military officers have requested that the sentence be commuted to life.

Mr Perry has commuted the death sentences of 31 inmates. Of these, 28 involved cases in which the defendant was a juvenile at the time of the crime and Mr Perry acted after a Supreme Court ruling on the issue.

Polls show that about 65 per cent of Americans favour the death penalty. Mr Perry's enthusiastic backing for the death penalty would be unlikely to be an issue that could harm him in the Republican primaries. It could, however, became an issue in a general election against Mr Obama, who supports the death penalty but is much more willing to consider exclusions.






Same bullshit - different asshole. 



Well it appears that he has personally stepped in along with the State Dept and Mexico because of the violation of the 1963 Vienna Treaty. 

Texas doesn't have follow the treaty because of a Supreme Court ruling but it appears its due to the danger imposed on American Tourists if they are jailed in another country.  I don't think Rick Perry is going to put a stay on the execution because of the election season but we will see
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 05:41:48 AM
Obamas treason on fast and furious puts more people at risk than this bullshit excuse he is using to advocate on behalh of this pedo killer.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 10:34:42 AM
Obama Pal and Terrorist Dohrn Linked to Mexican Killer Case (Humberto Leal-Texas)
Right Side news ^ | 7-7-2011 | Cliff Kincaid




Obama Pal and Terrorist Dohrn Linked to Mexican Killer Case
Cliff Kincaid


July 7, 2011

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Crime reporter and blogger Tina Trent says that President Obama’s intervention on behalf of an illegal alien killer can be traced back to a 2003 conference that featured Bernardine Dohrn, Van Jones, and representatives of the Soros-funded Open Society Institute.  “The purpose of the conference was to find ways to insinuate international (read: United Nations) laws and resolutions in American legal arenas, as Sandra Babcock is attempting to do to free her client, Humberto Leal,” Trent reports on her blog.


 Babcock is the attorney for a killer described in liberal media reports as “a Mexican national” who is in fact an illegal alien convicted of the 1994 kidnapping, rape, and murder of 16-year-old Adria Sauceda in San Antonio, Texas. Leal was scheduled to be executed on Thursday night in Texas before the Obama Administration intervened on his behalf, claiming his rights as an illegal in the U.S., under an international treaty, had not been protected. Leal has had the benefit of 45 different hearings and appeals and his guilt is beyond question.

The issue that Obama is concerned about is whether this illegal alien was able to contact the Mexican embassy in order to protect his “rights” under international law.

Trent reports, “Humberto Leal’s defense attorney, Sandra L. Babcock, of the terrorist-sheltering law school at Northwestern University, has an interesting vitae. Ms. Babcock’s research interest is imposing international law on the American justice system, a hobby she practices with her colleague, terrorist-cum-law-professor Bernardine Dohrn.”  

“If President Obama, his friend Bernardine Dohrn, and Jimmy Carter get their way, the police are going to find their hands tied in ten different ways, and our criminal justice system will soon be utterly subservient to whatever the hell they dream up at the U.N.,” Trent says of the Obama Administration’s intervention in the case.

In intervening on behalf of Leal, Obama is acting on behalf of the government of Mexico.

Indeed, Babcock’s work has been funded by the government of Mexico. According to Babcock’s biography, “From 2000-2006 she served as director of the Mexican Capital Legal Assistance Program, a program funded by the Mexican Foreign Ministry to assist Mexican nationals facing capital punishment in the United States. For her work, she was awarded the Aguila Azteca, the highest honor bestowed by the government of Mexico upon citizens of foreign countries, in 2003.”


Dohrn is the former leader of the communist terrorist Weather Underground who, with her husband and fellow terrorist Bill Ayers, hosted a fundraiser for Barack Obama when he ran for the state Senate in Illinois.  

She praised the followers of mass murderer Charles Manson and Manson himself as a “true revolutionary.” Dohrn and Ayers signed a document, “Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism,” dedicated in part to Sirhan Sirhan, the Marxist Palestinian who killed Robert F. Kennedy. This endorsement played a role in the University of Illinois denying Ayers, who had been a professor of education at the school, emeritus status after he retired.


For her part, Dohrn was jailed for seven months for refusing to cooperate with a grand jury investigating the murder of two policemen and a security guard in the 1981 Brinks robbery. She is accused by former FBI informant Larry Grathwohl, based on a meeting he had with Ayers, of planting the bomb that killed San Francisco Police Sergeant Brian V. McDonnell in 1970. Dohrn denies the charge.


Van Jones, listed as being “invited” to the international law conference, is the former Obama official and self-proclaimed communist who voiced doubts that Muslims carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Trent notes that Babcock and Dohrn were listed by Northwestern as experts on human rights issues when the Chicago City Council adopted a resolution in support of ratification of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. This treaty gives a U.N. body the power to pass judgment over how parents raise their children.

Trent says that in 2003, along with the A.C.L.U., The Jimmy Carter Center, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, the Center for Constitutional Rights, and the Soros-funded Open Society Institute, sponsored a conference called Human Rights at Home: International Law in U.S. Courts. The official description said one purpose was that of “Ensuring U.S. accountability for violating international human rights principles…”

Dohrn was on the program, discussing “women and children’s issues.” Another participant was Harold Koh, now Obama’s State Department legal adviser and one of those pushing for Leal’s international “rights.”


In 2004, Dohrn spoke to the Baltimore branch of the Soros-funded Open Society Institute on the subject of discipline in schools. In 1999, according to Dohrn’s curriculum vitae, she spoke at New York University under the auspices of the Open Society Institute on the subject of “Families in a Free Society.” Another Weather Underground terrorist, Linda Evans, who was pardoned and released from prison by President Clinton, received a “Soros Justice Fellowship” to promote the rights of criminals.



Trent explains the Leal case: “As per her academic research and this movement, Babcock is now claiming that the police failed to inform Leal of his right to Mexican consular support when he was arrested. Allegedly, this failure violated the rules of the International Court of Justice at the Hague: Leal, as a ‘Mexican national,’ should have simply been able to call ‘his’ embassy and the entire mess—the body, the rock, the stick, the bloody clothes, et. al. could be whisked away like some New Guinean ambassador’s parking tickets.”


She adds, “But there’s one little problem: Humberto Leal has lived in the United States, apparently illegally, since he was two. Talk about wanting it both ways: Leal was an American until the moment he murdered Adria Sauceda. That changed in the brief space between bashing in a young girl’s head and wiping down the doors of his car. Now he’s a ‘Mexican national,’ a term everyone from the President to the New York Times to “human rights” organizations (Leal’s rights, not Sauceda’s) is using with no irony and no explanation, as they lobby to cloak a killer in layers of special privileges while simultaneously lobbying to prevent police from inquiring about immigration status.”



Trent explains the predicament into which the Obama policy is putting the police. “The police will have to determine if someone is a foreign citizen in order to offer them consular rights, but they’ll also be forbidden to ask if someone is a foreign citizen in the interest of not discriminating against illegal immigrants, a lovely Catch 22 dreamed up by academics. This cliff we’re careening towards is permanent demotion of Americans’ legal rights on their own soil.”

Trent also criticizes coverage of the case by the liberal media, noting that The New York Times “gawkingly refers to Humberto Leal merely as a ‘Mexican citizen,’ as if he wandered over the border one day and ended up smashing a girl’s head in with a rock, his decades of residency in the U.S. tacitly denied.”

A website devoted to Leal and his case lists a number of articles and editorials in support of his “rights,” several of them from The New York Times and The Washington Post.

Cliff Kincaid is the Director of the AIM Center for Investigative Journalism, and can be contacted at cliff.kincaid@aim.org.



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I'm not kidding - every disgusting asshole on this board who plans to vote for obama for a second term should rot in hell with osama, hitler, mao, stalin, and lenin.   

You are traitors, communists, and subversives if you vote for this communist destroyed for a 2nd term. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 11:05:00 AM
White House seeks delay of Mexican man's execution MICHAEL GRACZYK, Associated Press
2011-07-07 09:57:49
 

HUNTSVILLE (AP) —



The planned execution Thursday of a Mexican national has prompted a flurry of appeals on his behalf, including a rare plea from the White House, because of what it could mean for other foreigners arrested in the U.S. and for Americans detained in other countries.

Humberto Leal, 38, is awaiting a ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court on whether to block his lethal injection in Huntsville. He was sentenced to die for the 1994 rape and murder of 16-year-old Adria Sauceda of San Antonio.

The appeal contends that authorities never told Leal after his arrest that he could seek legal assistance from the Mexican government under an international treaty, and that such assistance would have aided his defense. Leal moved to the U.S. as a toddler.

Leal's attorneys have support from the White House, the Mexican government and other diplomats who believe the execution should be delayed so his case can be thoroughly reviewed.

"There can be little doubt that if the government of Mexico had been allowed access to Mr. Leal in a timely manner, he would not now be facing execution for a capital murder he did not commit," Leal's attorneys told the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles in a clemency request rejected

Tuesday. "Unfortunately, Mexico's assistance came too late to affect the result of Mr. Leal's capital murder prosecution."

President Barack Obama's administration took the unusual step of intervening in a state murder case when it asked the Supreme Court last week to delay Leal's execution for up to six months. The U.S. solicitor general told the court that Congress needed time to consider legislation that would allow federal courts to review cases of condemned foreign nationals to determine if the lack of consular help made a significant difference in the outcome of their cases.

The legislation, backed by the U.S. State Department and the United Nations, would bring the U.S. into compliance with the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations provision regarding the arrest of foreign nationals.

Lower courts already rejected the pleas, agreeing with the Texas Attorney General's office that since the legislation hasn't been passed and signed into law, it doesn't apply. At least two measures like it failed earlier in Congress.

"Leal's argument is nothing but a transparent attempt to evade his impending punishment," Stephen Hoffman, an assistant attorney general for the state of Texas, told the Supreme Court.

Arturo Sarukhan, Mexico's ambassador to the U.S., wrote numerous congressional members and Texas officials calling attention to the legislation and the case and urged Gov. Rick Perry to stop the punishment.

Perry had the authority to issue a one-time 30-day reprieve but made no decision while the courts remained involved.

Prosecutors said on the night she was killed, Sauceda was drunk and high on cocaine at an outdoor party in an undeveloped neighborhood of San Antonio and was assaulted by several males. At some point, prosecutors said, Leal showed up and said he knew her parents and would take her home and explain the situation to them.

Witnesses said Leal drove off with Sauceda around 5 a.m. Some partygoers found her brutalized body later that morning and called police, prosecutors said. When officers arrived, they found Sauceda's head battered by a 30- to 40-pound chunk of asphalt and evidence that she had been bitten, strangled and raped. A large stick that had a screw protruding from it was left in her body.

Leal, a mechanic, was identified as the last person seen with her. He was questioned and arrested.

A witness testified Leal's brother appeared at the party, agitated that Leal had arrived home bloody and saying he had killed a girl. Testifying during the trial's punishment phase, Leal acknowledged being intoxicated and doing wrong but said he wasn't responsible for what prosecutors alleged.

The question of protection for foreign nationals under the international treaty isn't new.

President George W. Bush in 2005 agreed with an International Court of Justice ruling that Leal and 50 other Mexican-born inmates nationwide should be entitled to new hearings in U.S. courts to determine if their consular rights were violated at the time of their arrests. The Supreme Court later overruled Bush, negating the decision from the Netherlands-based court.

Jose Medellin, condemned for participating in the rape-slayings of two Houston teenage girls, in 2008 raised a Vienna Convention claim similar to the one pending for Leal. It failed and he was executed.



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Obama - Bush -   Same pieces of disgusting trash - different asshole.   


and BTW - I hope you obama supporters are really proud of your communist messiah. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Dos Equis on July 07, 2011, 11:05:38 AM
Obama needs to stay out of this.  If this has already gone through the judicial system and the governor refuses to grant clemency, then the executive branch shouldn't have anything to do with this, unless the president wants to pardon this rapist/murderer.  We shouldn't allow some international law to trump American law, particularly a state law.  
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 11:08:16 AM
Obama needs to stay out of this.  If this has already gone through the judicial system and the governor refuses to grant clemency, then the executive branch shouldn't have anything to do with this, unless the president wants to pardon this rapist/murderer.  We shouldn't allow some international law to trump American law, particularly a state law.  

Read earlier - he is doing the work of that domestic terrorist buddy of his Bernadine Dohrn - Ayeres' wife. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 07, 2011, 11:41:08 AM
Obama needs to stay out of this.  If this has already gone through the judicial system and the governor refuses to grant clemency, then the executive branch shouldn't have anything to do with this, unless the president wants to pardon this rapist/murderer.  We shouldn't allow some international law to trump American law, particularly a state law.  


That's not an option especially when you have an 50 year old international treaty in place. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 11:44:26 AM

That's not an option especially when you have an 50 year old international treaty in place. 

Or when you have been busted sending thousands of assault rifles over the border w deadly results.   

Obama = FAIL 



If blacks wanted a black potus so bad couldnt you morons have pushed rice, Poweel, Cain, thomas, sowell, allen, williams, et al as opposed to this commie piece of trash you sold your souls to? 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 03:21:17 PM
U.S. high court clears way for Mexican's execution
Reuters ^ | July 7, 2011




(Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday rejected a last-minute stay of execution in a Texas case involving a Mexican national who was not told of his right to diplomatic counsel when arrested.


(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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Good - fuck obama - fry this asshole
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Dos Equis on July 07, 2011, 03:23:05 PM

That's not an option especially when you have an 50 year old international treaty in place. 

What's not an option?  Are you saying an international treaty trumps a state law, involving conduct that occurred within that state? 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Dos Equis on July 07, 2011, 03:23:30 PM
U.S. high court clears way for Mexican's execution
Reuters ^ | July 7, 2011




(Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday rejected a last-minute stay of execution in a Texas case involving a Mexican national who was not told of his right to diplomatic counsel when arrested.


(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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Good - fuck obama - fry this asshole

Good.  Hang em high. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 07, 2011, 03:30:51 PM
What's not an option?  Are you saying an international treaty trumps a state law, involving conduct that occurred within that state? 


Its not an option on the federal government as they have to comply with international laws, however the state is not bound by international law which is why he'll be put to sleep in a few hours. 

The Obama Administration already knew that he was going to be executed because the previous Bush Administration had the exact same issue.  Its nothing more than show and tell for foreign relations. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 03:33:23 PM

Its not an option on the federal government as they have to comply with international laws, however the state is not bound by international law which is why he'll be put to sleep in a few hours. 

The Obama Administration already knew that he was going to be executed because the previous Bush Administration had the exact same issue.  Its nothing more than show and tell for foreign relations. 

Yeah, and needless angst for the family.   Screw obama.   You voted for this disgusting pofs - now own this.   
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 07, 2011, 03:36:30 PM
Yeah, and needless angst for the family.   Screw obama.   You voted for this disgusting pofs - now own this.   


What makes you think I voted for Obama???
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 03:37:30 PM

What makes you think I voted for Obama???

95% chance you did. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 07, 2011, 04:52:11 PM
He's Dead Jim

(http://mysite.verizon.net/thefilmfrontier/images/trek02_006.jpg)


He had a pretty good last meal:  fried chicken, pico de gallo and guisada tacos.

Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Dos Equis on July 07, 2011, 04:53:50 PM

Its not an option on the federal government as they have to comply with international laws, however the state is not bound by international law which is why he'll be put to sleep in a few hours. 

The Obama Administration already knew that he was going to be executed because the previous Bush Administration had the exact same issue.  Its nothing more than show and tell for foreign relations. 

Ah so.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 04:54:54 PM
Good.  Many more to go.  You come here illegally and rape and kill - I personally am for brutal torture and feeding the remains to sharks and bottom feeders in a swamp.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 07, 2011, 04:56:31 PM
Ah so.  Thanks.

Here's the cool thing about Bush's case.  A Mexican Gang of 5 people raped and killed two teenagers anally and vaginally, pissed on them, and threw them behind bushes.  The court sentenced every single one of them to death except for the 15 year old who got 40 to life...... ;D  
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Dos Equis on July 07, 2011, 04:57:08 PM
He's Dead Jim

(http://mysite.verizon.net/thefilmfrontier/images/trek02_006.jpg)


He had a pretty good last meal:  fried chicken, pico de gallo and guisada tacos.



Good riddance.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 07, 2011, 05:09:48 PM
Good.  Many more to go.  You come here illegally and rape and kill - I personally am for brutal torture and feeding the remains to sharks and bottom feeders in a swamp.

Well, I can't argue with that.  Working as a correctional officer, I've had to deal with some of most vicious people around.  This one was the worst one I had to deal with, Freddie Owens.   >:(

http://www.wyff4.com/news/1976717/detail.html

Even after he killed that lady but he also killed his cellmate in the Detention Center itself.  Rolled his ass up on the bunk and slept.  So much blood.....

I was working in intake with the nurses and as he reached out to grab the meds he decided to grab the nurse instead.  I won't say exactly say what happened but I neutralized him and me and a few others threw him into Red Pod after he got out of the hospital.  He's on death row currently and actually has 3 death sentences but it keeps getting stayed.  He was suppose to be executed in 2008 but they stopped it.  

There's a lot more people I had to deal with but I understand more than anyone else what type of criminals are out there
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 06:57:23 PM
They should be put down like rabid dogs.
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 07, 2011, 09:25:36 PM
Mexican Murderer Executed as Court, Texas Gov. Reject Obama Appeal. Last Words: “Viva Mexico!”
Stand With Arizona ^ | 7/7/11 | John Hill
Posted on July 7, 2011 11:03:19 PM EDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Humberto Leal , a Mexican illegal alien was finally executed Thursday evening for the 1994 rape-slaying of 16-year-old Adria Sauceda, whose brutalized nude body was found hours after he left a San Antonio street party with her. She was bludgeoned with a chunk of asphalt.

Leal was executed after the U.S. Supreme Court (by a 5-4 vote) turned down a appeal by President Barack Obama to stop the execution due to complaints by the Mexican Government and the U.N. justice court that he had not properly received “consular access” before his trial.

As with his lawsuit against Arizona over its mere upholding of Federal laws with SB1070, his unilateral approval for access for Mexican drivers in the U.S., and his virtual amnesty for “Dreamer” illegal aliens, Obama once again chose Mexico over the American people. This last disgraceful act by Obama was a slap in the face to the Sauceda Family – who had waited far too long for justice, as well as the People of Texas, whose sovereignty clearly means nothing to him.

After the Supreme Court ruled against Obama and Leal, the Texas Gov. Rick Perry also refused to stop the execution – thus sealing this savage’s fate. In his last minutes, Humberto Leal said he was sorry and accepted responsibility.

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Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 08, 2011, 04:27:22 AM
They should be put down like rabid dogs.

The person to blame for Freddie Owens is his mother, father, and stepfather.  They are responsible for warping this guy's mind and as a result you have someone like him who doesn't care about killing people. 
Title: Re: Obama trying to halt execution of illegal Mexi who raped and killed 16 y/o in TX
Post by: Agnostic007 on July 11, 2011, 11:37:51 AM
The person to blame for Freddie Owens is his mother, father, and stepfather.  They are responsible for warping this guy's mind and as a result you have someone like him who doesn't care about killing people. 

Did they chain him to the bed and beat him or something?