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Think about it, these guys do steroids, have muscles AND they can kick your ass.
That's far better than some pathetic 300lbs monster that can barely walk, has a red head from the high blood pressure and huffs and coughs all day when he moves.
(http://mmafrenzy.com/files/2008/11/brock-lesnar-ufc-91-weigh-in.jpg)
(http://6th-round.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/sean_sherk.jpg)
The girls are much hotter as well! Not some roided out she-males.
(http://www.1800-sports.com/images/sexy-edith-labelle-ufc-octagon-girl.jpg)
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/09/30/ufc-ring-girls.jpg)
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Think about it, these guys do steroids, have muscles AND they can kick your ass.
That's far better than some pathetic 300lbs monster that can barely walk, has a red head from the high blood pressure and huffs and coughs all day when he moves.
(http://mmafrenzy.com/files/2008/11/brock-lesnar-ufc-91-weigh-in.jpg)
(http://6th-round.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/sean_sherk.jpg)
The girls are much hotter as well! Not some roided out she-males.
(http://www.1800-sports.com/images/sexy-edith-labelle-ufc-octagon-girl.jpg)
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/09/30/ufc-ring-girls.jpg)
Always gotta be a hater....... ::)
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Always gotta be a hater....... ::)
I don't hate at all! MMA is great!!!
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Think about it, these guys do steroids, have muscles AND they can kick your ass.
That's far better than some pathetic 300lbs monster that can barely walk, has a red head from the high blood pressure and huffs and coughs all day when he moves.
(http://mmafrenzy.com/files/2008/11/brock-lesnar-ufc-91-weigh-in.jpg)
(http://6th-round.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/sean_sherk.jpg)
The girls are much hotter as well! Not some roided out she-males.
(http://www.1800-sports.com/images/sexy-edith-labelle-ufc-octagon-girl.jpg)
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/09/30/ufc-ring-girls.jpg)
I don't see any oil, nor shredded glutes. EPIC FAIL!
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I don't hate at all! MMA is great!!!
If you ever insult an Aryan bastard with muscles i will personally fly over to Germany and kill you. Consider that a warning, bitch...... >:(
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This thread is lacking something............
..................hang on............
..........BBBBBBBBAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNGGGG GGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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MMA athletes do the doping too.
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I don't see any oil, nor shredded glutes. EPIC FAIL!
Is that gay enough for you? ;D ;D
(http://www.seatwave.de/filestore/SEASON/IMAGE/ufc-95_018920_3_MainPicture.jpg)
MMA athletes do the doping too.
Yes, you can juice AND kick ass.
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WWE shits all over MMA.
MMA= Two guys fucking eachother up against a cage untill somone taps out but its unscripted so it's automatically badass. ::)
WWE = Scripted but far more entairtaining because they perform athletic moves/there is a storyline behind the matches and they jump off 25ft cages onto tables etc. lol
WWE has hot girls aswell if thats what you watch sport for ::)
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WWE shits all over MMA.
MMA= Two guys fucking eachother up against a cage untill somone taps out but its unscripted so it's automatically badass. ::)
WWE = Scripted but far more entairtaining because they perform athletic moves/there is a storyline behind the matches and they jump off 25ft cages onto tables etc. lol
ahahahah, oh boy.
A 17 year old white trash virgin boy's opinion.
WWE rules! ::) ::)
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(http://api.ning.com/files/7p9EYwDDGNzlwYFm*kHqi*evyIZY6JYaSy7-YZlQ7IvZ2EPWP30GU6QskU4pIiTbuYe6Axzj8rgn2G-SwNplqUD1IqFu3w4N/TrishStratus.jpg)
ifbb wwe hybrid
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A 17 year old white trash virgin boy's opinion.
wrong on all three counts.
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(http://www.mmapunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bodog-fight-girls.jpg)
(http://www.mmafightgirls.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/bodog-fight-girl-wallpaper.jpg)
(http://www.fightchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/claudia-verela.jpg)
(http://squabbles.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/latasha_marzolla.jpg)
(http://www.mmafightgirls.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/mma-wisconsin.jpg)
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wrong on all three counts.
calm down, i'm just kidding!
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MMA athletes do the doping too.
say what ? ?
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Is that gay enough for you? ;D ;D
(http://www.seatwave.de/filestore/SEASON/IMAGE/ufc-95_018920_3_MainPicture.jpg)
Yes, you can juice AND kick ass.
brutal a$$ wippin for little money or less than a pro bowler.
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brutal a$$ wippin for little money or less than a pro bowler.
He would kick the shit out of you if you dare say that to his face! ;D ;D
(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0314/mma_couture_gonzaga1_576.jpg)
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The other comparison is that just by reading about, watching and wearing the clothing.......you automatically become an expert on the subject! It's just good times for all.
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The other comparison is that just by reading about, watching and wearing the clothing.......you automatically become an expert on the subject! It's just good times for all.
Go out in a bodybuilding.com t-shirt, and people laugh about you, if you wear Tapout they make way for you on the street, or run away.
By reading or watching BB, you never become an expert.
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Go out in a bodybuilding.com t-shirt, and people laugh about you, if you wear Tapout they make way for you on the street, or run away.
By reading or watching BB, you never become an expert.
Blasphemy !!!! Just look around on getbig and other bbing site..... ;D
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funny how MMA guys insult WWE wrestlers yet the wrestlers who have gone to MMA have been kicking ass. (Bobby Lashley and Brock Lesnar). Most guys in the WWE are 6ft.5 and 240lbs+
Everyone thinks of Jeff Hardy as one of the smaller guys yet he is 6ft.2 and like 220 lol.
:D
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(http://submitfear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bdg-doubleleg4.jpg)
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funny how MMA guys insult WWE wrestlers yet the wrestlers who have gone to MMA have been kicking ass. (Bobby Lashley and Brock Lesnar). Most guys in the WWE are 6ft.5 and 240lbs+
you dont think is has to to with the fact that they were
Lesnar:
Amateur wrestling
* Big Ten Conference
o Big Ten Conference Championship (1999, 2000)
o Ranked the #1 Heavyweight in the Big Ten Conference (2000)
* National Collegiate Athletic Association
o NCAA Division I runner–up (1999)
o NCAA Division I Championship (2000)
* North Dakota State University's annual Bison tournament
o Heavyweight Championship (1997–1999)[100]
* National Junior College Athletic Association
o NJCAA All–American (1997, 1998)
o Junior College National Championship (1998)
Lashley :
* Armed Forces Championship (2 times)
* CISM World Championship Silver Medalist (2002)
* Missouri Valley College National Championship (1996–1998)
* NAIA National Wrestling Championship (1997, 1998)
before the WWE? =)
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looks like "method101" got owned again.
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(http://submitfear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bdg-doubleleg4.jpg)
Hubbabubba :o
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(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h303/UFCReaper/UFCbanner1.jpg)
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Guys watching other men "wrestle" for them and getting excited about it ::) ::)
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Guys watching other men "wrestle" for them and getting excited about it ::) ::)
Yeah, what a bunch of homos!
....yet you fit right in ;D
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Go out in a bodybuilding.com t-shirt, and people laugh about you, if you wear Tapout they make way for you on the street, or run away.
By reading or watching BB, you never become an expert.
LOL. How pathetic. I know mma fighters and none of them wear tap out clothing. They don't need to wear a t-shirt to look tough. They are humble and quiet.
The wanna be tough guys.... The ones that would never step into a ring....they are the ones that buy all the tap out crap.
PS- mma ain't new. I started watching it in 1996. And it was out previous to that.
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LOL. How pathetic. I know mma fighters and none of them wear tap out clothing. They don't need to wear a t-shirt to look tough. They are humble and quiet.
The wanna be tough guys.... The ones that would never step into a ring....they are the ones that buy all the tap out crap.
PS- mma ain't new. I started watching it in 1996. And it was out previous to that.
You don't get sarcasm much do you?
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LOL. How pathetic. I know mma fighters and none of them wear tap out clothing. They don't need to wear a t-shirt to look tough. They are humble and quiet.
The wanna be tough guys.... The ones that would never step into a ring....they are the ones that buy all the tap out crap.
PS- mma ain't new. I started watching it in 1996. And it was out previous to that.
"humor" isn't one of your stronger abilities, no?
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WWE shits all over MMA.
MMA= Two guys fucking eachother up against a cage untill somone taps out but its unscripted so it's automatically badass. ::)
WWE = Scripted but far more entairtaining because they perform athletic moves/there is a storyline behind the matches and they jump off 25ft cages onto tables etc. lol
WWE has hot girls aswell if thats what you watch sport for ::)
WWE kicks ass! Semi naked girls for most of us, semi naked men for Bay, storylines, violence, cheese...
What more do you want?
P.S. We do have a wrestling board you know: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=66.0
;D ;D
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WWE shits all over MMA.
MMA= Two guys fucking eachother up against a cage untill somone taps out but its unscripted so it's automatically badass. ::)
WWE = Scripted but far more entairtaining because they perform athletic moves/there is a storyline behind the matches and they jump off 25ft cages onto tables etc. lol
WWE has hot girls aswell if thats what you watch sport for ::)
Spoken like a champ as usual.
It's clear that DonKeyKong and co have an inferiority complex and live their fantasm of beating up other men through bad asses humping each other in a "cage"...
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WWE kicks ass! Semi naked girls for most of us, semi naked men for Bay,
;D ;D
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Spoken like a champ as usual.
It's clear that DonKeyKong and co have an inferiority complex and live their fantasm of beating up other men through bad asses humping each other in a "cage"...
It's clear that you are an idiot, and somehow i come to wonder if "Johnny Falcon" is either your persona on crack trips or your "wife".
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It's clear that you are an idiot, and somehow i come to wonder if "Johnny Falcon" is either your persona on crack trips or your "wife".
Meltdown.
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It's clear that you are an idiot, and somehow i come to wonder if "Johnny Falcon" is either your persona on crack trips or your "wife".
:D
I owned you with that video donkey san
why don'tyou reply?
scared ? :D
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:D
I owned you with that video donkey san
why don'tyou reply?
scared ? :D
Hahahahah 'cause you completely destroyed him Sev... he obviously hasn't recovered and melting down like pubescent vagina ;D
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:D
I owned you with that video donkey san
why don'tyou reply?
scared ? :D
meltdown.
Now you start following me around again?
I couldn't care less, i have 5 days off from tomorrow on, i probably will not be online to "battle it out" with you like a real man... ::) ::)
Meltdown.
How's the diet coming along, fatboy?
Hahahahah 'cause you completely destroyed him Sev... he obviously hasn't recovered and melting down like pubescent vagina ;D
meltdown.
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meltdown.
Now you start following me around again?
I couldn't care less, i have 5 days off from tomorrow on, i probably will not be online to "battle it out" with you like a real man... ::) ::)
How's the diet coming along, fatboy?
meltdown.
I can almost hear your lil asian fists hitting the keyboard as you type this.
I think it's time you show your face on here.
What do you say?
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I can almost hear your lil asian fists hitting the keyboard as you type this.
I think it's time you show your face on here.
What do you say?
no chance
he cannot afford a widelens , the only technical device that would be able to encompass the sheer magnitude of his built
he did try to take a piconce and the only thing that was able to fit in the picture was his calf
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mma is a bigger joke and emarassment than bodybuilding..........
only in mma could somone with 4 fights under there belt, coming fresh out of wrestling , come in and win the heavyweight championship.. could you ever imagine that happening in boxing?... i dont fuckn think so!!!!
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mma is a bigger joke and emarassment than bodybuilding..........
only in mma could somone with 4 fights under there belt, coming fresh out of wrestling , come in and win the heavyweight championship.. could you ever imagine that happening in boxing?... i dont fuckn think so!!!!
QFT.
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mma is a bigger joke and emarassment than bodybuilding..........
only in mma could somone with 4 fights under there belt, coming fresh out of wrestling , come in and win the heavyweight championship.. could you ever imagine that happening in boxing?... i dont fuckn think so!!!!
exactly !
can you imagin some dude whoplayed cricket to takeup tennis and after 4 matches to beat federer ?
aaaaaaahahahhahahahahha
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it goes along way to show up that its just a joke, in no other sport could that happen...
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lol you guys miss the point
brock was a champion wrestler....i think kurt angle in his better days could also make in impact in MMA
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it goes along way to show up that its just a joke, in no other sport could that happen...
of course
I said many times that is a young sport and until you gonna have people GROWING UP in MMA as in talented people witha huge pool to choose from it will never be competitive
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champion high school wrestler... big fuckin deal!...
theres no getting out of this embarrasment...
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they were both good wrestlers...that's not the point
they point is that WHEN A FUCKING WRESTLER DOMINATES A CONTACT SPORT IT'S FUCKING PATHETIC
the sport needs more years to grow and hopefully attract real talent
Kurt nagle got beat by a fan at his own game in a shoot match
cand you imagine a fan from audience talking shit to roy jones then whooping him in the ring ? lol
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lol you guys miss the point
brock was a champion wrestler....i think kurt angle in his better days could also make in impact in MMA
Back in the mid 90's Mark Coleman trained for the Olympic wrestling freestyle team....in the Olympic trials he beat Mark Kerr and got beat by Kurt Angle. (I think Coleman tore an ab muscle in the match with Kerr and the injury kept him from advancing). Kurt went to Atlanta and took Gold.
Coleman then a couple months later, with zero mma (tons of bar fights and street fights though) came in and won 3 consecuitive UFC titles.
Proving that if you are big, in top shape, and can take people down....then you are a threat to beat the most skilled guys out there.
A few years ago Coleman took down Fedor, took his back and shouldve won (didn't know the proper choke hold hand positioning)
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Back in the mid 90's Mark Coleman trained for the Olympic wrestling freestyle team....in the Olympic trials he beat Mark Kerr and got beat by Kurt Angle. (I think Coleman tore an ab muscle in the match with Kerr and the injury kept him from advancing). Kurt went to Atlanta and took Gold.
Coleman then a couple months later, with zero mma (tons of bar fights and street fights though) came in and won 3 consecuitive UFC titles.
Proving that if you are big, in top shape, and can take people down....then you are a threat to beat the most skilled guys out there.
A few years ago Coleman took down Fedor, took his back and shouldve won (didn't know the proper choke hold hand positioning)
when your are OLYMPIC calibre wrestler you can hold anyone down. But you will have to learn other shit also.. Hence why his record his 16-9
But you can get caought in submissions as he has several times.
and all wrestlers seem to hit fucking HARD also, Im guessing its because they are good at using their weight etc
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And the classic KO. HE was sooooooooo tired its not even funny lol!!
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And the classic KO. HE was sooooooooo tired its not even funny lol!!
I saw that Coleman/Williams fight live. Coleman beat Petes ass during the fight....but by overtime Coleman was spent.
That fight was tough. Pete was almost ko'd by Coleman early on.
Coleman was fresh off of knee surgery and needed that fight to get a rematch with Maurice smith or a shot at couture.
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I saw that Coleman/Williams fight live. Coleman beat Petes ass during the fight....but by overtime Coleman was spent.
That fight was tough. Pete was almost ko'd by Coleman early on.
Coleman was fresh off of knee surgery and needed that fight to get a rematch with Maurice smith or a shot at couture.
That sounds like sour grapes. Williams ko'd him! There was no doubt who won the fight. That's like watching a football game where one team leads the whole game, but loses in the last few seconds. Surely, you wouldn't say that then... :-\
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I totally agree with the concept of MMA being everything people want to see in bodybuilding. The average guy who watches MMA thinks Liddell, Jackson, etc. are absolute monsters (and with the likes of Lesnar, Sherk, etc who do carry a lot of muscle on their frames they can be used as even better examples). With the average person when they look at bodybuilders there's always things being brought up like, "oh yeah, well could he fight, etc." but in the instance of MMA the physical prowess is there and proven...and the women are there too. Great observation Donkey.
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That sounds like sour grapes. Williams ko'd him! There was no doubt who won the fight. That's like watching a football game where one team leads the whole game, but loses in the last few seconds. Surely, you wouldn't say that then... :-\
Are you serious? Sour grapes? Dude I could not possibly care any less about that fight! It took place 11 years ago.
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but in the instance of MMA the physical prowess is there and proven...and the women are there too. Great observation Donkey.
every sport has groupies. Hockey, football, baseball. MMA is no different
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here in europe many people think mma is against humanity(don't know if you can say that in english this way)
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Think about it, these guys do steroids, have muscles AND they can kick your ass.
That's far better than some pathetic 300lbs monster that can barely walk, has a red head from the high blood pressure and huffs and coughs all day when he moves.
(http://mmafrenzy.com/files/2008/11/brock-lesnar-ufc-91-weigh-in.jpg)
(http://6th-round.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/sean_sherk.jpg)
The girls are much hotter as well! Not some roided out she-males.
(http://www.1800-sports.com/images/sexy-edith-labelle-ufc-octagon-girl.jpg)
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/images/09/30/ufc-ring-girls.jpg)
There must be something to dwindling crowds at bbing shows, declining NPC memberships and nonexistent media coverage of bbing.
MMA on the other hand sells out auditoriums every other month, is the fastest growing sport and is starting to get real media coverage.
Bbing took a wrong turn somewhere and has now been relegated to a niche within a niche. It's sad when you think about it...
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There must be something to dwindling crowds at bbing shows, declining NPC memberships and nonexistent media coverage of bbing.
MMA on the other hand sells out auditoriums every other month, is the fastest growing sport and is starting to get real media coverage.
Bbing took a wrong turn somewhere and has now been relegated to a niche within a niche. It's sad when you think about it...
Basile-like opinion based on nothing but conjecture and slanted opinion...
NPC cards were up this year over last, USA had nearly 500 competitors and sold out show...Nationals will be the same.
Olympia VIP-sold out
Whats sad, is you continuing to talk bullshit when you haven't the slighest clue
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Basile-like opinion based on nothing but conjecture and slanted opinion...
NPC cards were up this year over last, USA had nearly 500 competitors and sold out show...Nationals will be the same.
Olympia VIP-sold out
Whats sad, is you continuing to talk bullshit when you haven't the slighest clue
Membership in the NPC might be up (we are taking your word for it, but doesn't mean its true, show proof) but no way in hell or anywhere else could Mr. Olympia or any other BB show comes close to filling every seat in the locations UFC fights are held. The Olympia gets what 6000 or so people live. That would be embarrassing if only that many showed up to a UFC fight. Put the Olympia on at the Staple Center or set it up like they do at the MGM Grand and see if it can sell 12000 to 18000 seats. You know that will never happen. So don't think that having 3 shows out of how many a year the NPC and IFBB put on even come close to MMA. NOT EVEN CLOSE
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Im from Canada. I know when the UFC came to Montreal it was one of the biggest UFC's ever. When Pro bodybuilding came to Montreal there was maybe 150 people there at the very most. After the competition the bodybuiders that competed were thumbing cabs like the rest of us. It was a sad scene, seeing a bunch of distorted bodybuilders that comprimised there health to stand up on stage for absolutely nothing. The big winner took home a wopping 10k. Its sad to see bodybuilding such a dieing hobby.
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Basile-like opinion based on nothing but conjecture and slanted opinion...
NPC cards were up this year over last, USA had nearly 500 competitors and sold out show...Nationals will be the same.
Olympia VIP-sold out
Whats sad, is you continuing to talk bullshit when you haven't the slighest clue
Bob, you may be entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.
You probably don't know this, but I own a marketing consulting firm. Over half of my clients are sports nutrition companies including some of the biggest in the industry (Ron will corroborate this). I can tell you, for a fact, that every company I deal with, has completely stopped endorsing pro/amateur bodybuilders and many have begun endorsing MMA athletes. Also, many have completely stopped sponsoring local/regional bodybuilding shows because there is nobody there! It's a waste of money. Many still sponsor the Olympia & Arnold, but only because you get a good cross section of consumers there, as a result of everything else that goes on at the expos.
I understand why you get so defensive and take it so personal. This is your livelihood and what you have devoted your life to. But, that is what clouds your judgement and has you melting all over this board.
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Membership in the NPC might be up (we are taking your word for it, but doesn't mean its true, show proof) but no way in hell or anywhere else could Mr. Olympia or any other BB show comes close to filling every seat in the locations UFC fights are held. The Olympia gets what 6000 or so people live. That would be embarrassing if only that many showed up to a UFC fight. Put the Olympia on at the Staple Center or set it up like they do at the MGM Grand and see if it can sell 12000 to 18000 seats. You know that will never happen. So don't think that having 3 shows out of how many a year the NPC and IFBB put on even come close to MMA. NOT EVEN CLOSE
Try and keep up....no one is comparing what the UFC sells to BB.
Mindless made a statement saying that everything BB related was in the gutter....I know for fact he's wrong.
Where you draw any comparison is beyond me
Here is another revelation for you: The NFL sold more tickets than MMA
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Bob, you may be entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own facts.
You probably don't know this, but I own a marketing consulting firm. Over half of my clients are sports nutrition companies including some of the biggest in the industry (Ron will corroborate this). I can tell you, for a fact, that every company I deal with, has completely stopped endorsing pro/amateur bodybuilders and many have begun endorsing MMA athletes. Also, many have completely stopped sponsoring local/regional bodybuilding shows because there is nobody there! It's a waste of money. Many still sponsor the Olympia & Arnold, but only because you get a good cross section of consumers there, as a result of everything else that goes on at the expos.
I understand why you get so defensive and take it so personal. This is your livelihood and what you have devoted your life to. But, that is what clouds your judgement and has you melting all over this board.
Awesome,..maybe they'll be smart enough to figure out that people that watch MMA don't buy supplements. There might be far less people at NPC shows, but they are about 99% more likely to be BBers themselves, trainers, people that lift, etc...
BTW...just because every company YOU deal with has bailed out (allegedly) doesn't mean ALL of them have...And TWO of the BB related supp companies are not going back to sponsoring any MMA events as they seen the cross section of fans attending were definately NOT likely to purchase supps.
As for "nobody" being at local/ regional events....obviously, you haven't been to any yourself...USA- sold out/ Jr. Nats- standing room only/ Lindsay shows- at capacity....I'll be at Dexter's show this weekend hosting.....I'll be sure to note your nostradomous like predictions to the sold out crowd....as it was last year
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Awesome,..maybe they'll be smart enough to figure out that people that watch MMA don't buy supplements. There might be far less people at NPC shows, but they are about 99% more likely to be BBers themselves, trainers, people that lift, etc...
BTW...just because every company YOU deal with has bailed out (allegedly) doesn't mean ALL of them have...And TWO of the BB related supp companies are not going back to sponsoring any MMA events as they seen the cross section of fans attending were definately NOT likely to purchase supps.
As for "nobody" being at local/ regional events....obviously, you haven't been to any yourself...USA- sold out/ Jr. Nats- standing room only/ Lindsay shows- at capacity....I'll be at Dexter's show this weekend hosting.....I'll be sure to note your nostradomous like predictions to the sold out crowd....as it was last year
Can you please show me consumer demographics on the MMA fan and their buying habits?
Also, I didn't realize the USA & Jr Nationals were local/regional shows...lol.
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this was obviously a "bait" thread and you guys bit...ouch
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Can you please show me consumer demographics on the MMA fan and their buying habits?
Also, I didn't realize the USA & Jr Nationals were local/regional shows...lol.
No...I cant. And neither can you. Are you saying they do? Is it your opinion that the MMA fanbase is an untapped (no pun intended) market, o wise one?
McMahon thought the same thing with ICOPRO and the WWF fans....how did that work out?
You obviously didn't realize that the competitors in the shows come from local shows...
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Try and keep up....no one is comparing what the UFC sells to BB.
Mindless made a statement saying that everything BB related was in the gutter....I know for fact he's wrong.
Where you draw any comparison is beyond me
Here is another revelation for you: The NFL sold more tickets than MMA
Let me keep you up. The thread is about MMA being and better than BB. Mindspin simply was stating facts about how BB is dwindling in numbers and those are facts. You do not ever posts facts you only post what you want to say or told to sat by Manion. Now that is a fact. Have you ever stated facts about BB without doing some odd comparison to like football or some other real sport. Face it you are fighting a battle you can't and won't win. BB is losing sponsors and crowds. That is a fact. The USA might have had 500 competitors but other than family in the audience how many other people were there. That place doesn't even hold 2000 people. Easy to sell out that venue especially when 500 of the seats are the competitors.
You are right on one things. No one is comparing the UFC to BB. That would be really funny
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Awesome,..maybe they'll be smart enough to figure out that people that watch MMA don't buy supplements. There might be far less people at NPC shows, but they are about 99% more likely to be BBers themselves, trainers, people that lift, etc...
BTW...just because every company YOU deal with has bailed out (allegedly) doesn't mean ALL of them have...And TWO of the BB related supp companies are not going back to sponsoring any MMA events as they seen the cross section of fans attending were definately NOT likely to purchase supps.
As for "nobody" being at local/ regional events....obviously, you haven't been to any yourself...USA- sold out/ Jr. Nats- standing room only/ Lindsay shows- at capacity....I'll be at Dexter's show this weekend hosting.....I'll be sure to note your nostradomous like predictions to the sold out crowd....as it was last year
Of course they sellout. The are held in high school or college auditoriums. They ONLY seat 1000 to 1500 people. Tell Lindsay to sellout the Mandalay Bay or even the place at The Palms. Odd how many supp companies sponsor MMA fighters yet you say MMA fans don't buy supplements. So you are saying that all the companies that sponsor fighters and fight organizations don't know what they are doing and DO NO market research. WOW! I can't figure out why these same companies (that make millions) haven't got ahold of you to run all their companies. Look how much better they would be supporting BB like you say than MMA. These companies are stupid.
Oh by the way isn't it weird how MMA gets a whole cross section of sponsors for their athletes and events and BB can only get supplement or equipment companies to sponsor and BB has been around for 50+ years.
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jmt
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USA- sold out/ Jr. Nats- standing room only/ Lindsay shows- at capacity....
the NPC USA has over 400 contestants
most of the audience are family members, not necessarily people who go to the gym, not exactly the desired demographics to advertise supplements to
and most of the contestants are women, again not the desired demographics
and most of the contestants are steroid users, and why waste your money on questionable supplements when you're already using the really good stuff?
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JMT
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Bodybuilding posing is gay.
Best KO of the year.
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the NPC USA has over 400 contestants
most of the audience are family members, not necessarily people who go to the gym, not exactly the desired demographics to advertise supplements to
and most of the contestants are women, again not the desired demographics
and most of the contestants are steroid users, and why waste your money on questionable supplements when you're already using the really good stuff?
LOL...when was the last time you were at a USA?
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JMT
Best post of the thread! :o
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Best KO of the year.
yes! this was great ! ;D
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LOL...when was the last time you were at a USA?
ok, most of the audience are older people who can afford a weekend trip to vegas, again not the desired demographics for supplements.
the desired demographics for supplements are 16-25 year old males, and they're more likely to watch MMA (on tv) than go to a bb contest
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face it competitive bodybuilding died long time ago.
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Exhibition sports and combat sports aren't comparable.
As in the other thread. Bodybuilders bodybuild, fighters are trying to stave off fatigue, catabolism, and increase performance.
Most of the guys at my and other academys take lots of supps. Maybe different from BB supps, but they do supplement. Not nearly in the same dosage levels either. Weight gain is the antithesis to a competitor. You want to be the biggest competitor in your respected class. A month ago, I cut 14 lbs to get into a lower weight division to compete.
And don't get me started on the WWE versus MMA thing. One is real, one is scripted. Brock would have been successful in any endeavor he attempted, he is a stud athlete. And Lashley has been fed a steady stream of tomatoe cans. He is definitely is not ready for the big time.
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The truth about supplements and bodybuilding is that anyone who actually pays to go to a bodybuilding show is probabally a bodybuilder. By the time a "bodybuilder" is actually going to see a bodybuilding competition there likely educated enough to know these companys that make supplements are jokes, the supplements are garbage and the average bodybuilder who buys tickets for a pro bodybuilder show realizes it. By this time I believe they understand that Dexter Jackson didnt build his physique with creatine and glutamine..lol So really I have no clue and never did understand why these supplement companys have the faces of massive bodybuilders on there product. Its the biggest lie I ever scene. I know the general public would believe an MMA fighter using a supplement product than a cartoon like GH filled bodybuilder. That to me is a little more realistic even though its still a lie. I love bodybuilding, but it is what it is.
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Awesome,..maybe they'll be smart enough to figure out that people that watch MMA don't buy supplements. There might be far less people at NPC shows, but they are about 99% more likely to be BBers themselves, trainers, people that lift, etc...
BTW...just because every company YOU deal with has bailed out (allegedly) doesn't mean ALL of them have...And TWO of the BB related supp companies are not going back to sponsoring any MMA events as they seen the cross section of fans attending were definately NOT likely to purchase supps.
As for "nobody" being at local/ regional events....obviously, you haven't been to any yourself...USA- sold out/ Jr. Nats- standing room only/ Lindsay shows- at capacity....I'll be at Dexter's show this weekend hosting.....I'll be sure to note your nostradomous like predictions to the sold out crowd....as it was last year
You're so talking out of your ass....
BSN promotes heavily to martial artists, and there are a lot of them. For the people who only watch, and if you have ever been to MMA events, there aren't many who ONLY watch and don't train, at least here in europe the martial arts community is so much bigger than BB, but, for the people who only watch, there's T-Shirts, Caps, Posters and so on, the typical fan stuff.
There are hundreds of Martial Arts events every weekend, small ones and some big ones every few weeks. MMA outsells BB by far.
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The truth about supplements and bodybuilding is that anyone who actually pays to go to a bodybuilding show is probabally a bodybuilder. By the time a "bodybuilder" is actually going to see a bodybuilding competition there likely educated enough to know these companys that make supplements are jokes, the supplements are garbage and the average bodybuilder who buys tickets for a pro bodybuilder show realizes it. By this time I believe they understand that Dexter Jackson didnt build his physique with creatine and glutamine..lol So really I have no clue and never did understand why these supplement companys have the faces of massive bodybuilders on there product. Its the biggest lie I ever scene. I know the general public would believe an MMA fighter using a supplement product than a cartoon like GH filled bodybuilder. That to me is a little more realistic even though its still a lie. I love bodybuilding, but it is what it is.
good post, although i disagree strongly on "only people who workout watch BB", but MMA is not as drug infested down to the lowest ranks of followers like BB.
Try to find me a gym without juicers, you will hardly find one. But there are lots and lots of MA dojos with people that don't do steroids.
In my hometown, we have a few "fighting shops" popping out of the ground, they also sell supplements, and the shops do much better than the typical BB supplement stores. People are scared to walk into a BB store here, they also say lots of crap like "It's bad for your health", that doesn't go with MA at all.
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In my hometown, we have a few "fighting shops" popping out of the ground, they also sell supplements, and the shops do much better than the typical BB supplement stores. People are scared to walk into a BB store here, they also say lots of crap like "It's bad for your health", that doesn't go with MA at all.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're such a fucking tool, I didn't realized how fucking dumb you are....
Why don't you take your 150lb skinny fat self, visit the "fighting shop" and start shadow boxing on an hourly basis instead of posting idiocies on here?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're such a fucking tool, I didn't realized how fucking dumb you are....
Why don't you take your 150lb skinny fat self, visit the "fighting shop" and start shadow boxing on an hourly basis instead of posting idiocies on here?
meltdown. I must have hurt you very bad. Sorry for that.
Maybe you can try getting me out of your head for a while, it will help you. Oh and diet, please.
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Donkey by 'BB store' do mean GNC, Vitamin World, and Vitamin Shoppe style stores? I can't imagine anyone afraid to enter those types of stores.
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maybe donkey kong should go on hiatus from his 15 posts perday
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leave the guy alone... must have serious scaredy issues, specialy as he's scared of bodybuilding shops....
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Again, some facts for you. In 1996, the hight of the supplement industry, we used to sell to over 10,000 individual supplement shops. Most were mom/pop places that made a good living for themselves. Today there is less than 3,000 of these stores and most are struggling. The only solid players left are GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, Hi-Health & Vitamin World. And, I can tell you that these guys aren't doing what they were 10 years ago. I can also tell you that the leading gym/club chain is down significantly in supplement sales, however their memberships are up...
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Bodybuilding posing is gay.
Best KO of the year.
a few better ko's then that this year, Bisping for example.
Anyway,
LOL at the commentator,
NOT JUST A KO. THAT WAS A KTFO IN A MASSIVE WAY!! (Knocked the fuck out) loool!
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Again, some facts for you. In 1996, the hight of the supplement industry, we used to sell to over 10,000 individual supplement shops. Most were mom/pop places that made a good living for themselves. Today there is less than 3,000 of these stores and most are struggling. The only solid players left are GNC, Vitamin Shoppe, Hi-Health & Vitamin World. And, I can tell you that these guys aren't doing what they were 10 years ago. I can also tell you that the leading gym/club chain is down significantly in supplement sales, however their memberships are up...
No different than the many mom and pop hardware stores tnhat have fallen victim to the big business of home depot and Lowes, or the mom and pop grocery stores who couldn't keep up with Walmart and Target...
Smaller chains have all been left in the dust, supplement business is no different. They all fell to GNC, Vitamin World, BB.com, and the various other internet sites...BB.com did 130M last year (up from 100M/2007) and projected to be near 200M/ 2009...which took a toll on the retail businesses you listed
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a few better ko's then that this year, Bisping for example.
Anyway,
LOL at the commentator,
NOT JUST A KO. THAT WAS A KTFO IN A MASSIVE WAY!! (Knocked the fuck out) loool!
Shut your ugly face up before I stomp you.
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Donkey by 'BB store' do mean GNC, Vitamin World, and Vitamin Shoppe style stores? I can't imagine anyone afraid to enter those types of stores.
No, we don't have these here in germany.
supplement stores are normally small owner led stores, where you have some roided out freak behind the counter that sells supplements over and roids under the counter.
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every sport has groupies. Hockey, football, baseball. MMA is no different
except the MMA groupies tend to have breast implants, daddy issues, and the drunk, wife-beating boyfriend at home. And You know damn straight, if they had a chance at the NBA, NFL guys they would, they are just lower level groupies. If MMA really does explode, the quality of hoes grows.
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except the MMA groupies tend to have breast implants, daddy issues, and the drunk, wife-beating boyfriend at home. And You know damn straight, if they had a chance at the NBA, NFL guys they would, they are just lower level groupies. If MMA really does explode, the quality of hoes grows.
MMA already has exploded. They sell more PPVs than boxing and pro wrasslin. Just because they don't pay the fighters as much as boxing doesn't mean that it hasn't exploded. That means that Zuffa, LLC has a better business model than boxing promoters.
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MMA already has exploded. They sell more PPVs than boxing and pro wrasslin. Just because they don't pay the fighters as much as boxing doesn't mean that it hasn't exploded. That means that Zuffa, LLC has a better business model than boxing promoters.
MMA, has grown, but as some ESPN guys pointed out, it is not as poular as the NBA, NFL, or MLB, they don't need PPV, anytime you need PPV, you know it's more of niche. Because they don't pay the fighters as much a the boxers, shows that there is not as much money going around.
It will be interesting to see if MMA will last or if it is a fad, if it lasts, how will boxing be affected, will MMA be a Olympic sport, and will boxing be absorbed into the MMA fold?
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MMA, has grown, but as some ESPN guys pointed out, it is not as poular as the NBA, NFL, or MLB, they don't need PPV, anytime you need PPV, you know it's more of niche. Because they don't pay the fighters as much a the boxers, shows that there is not as much money going around.
It will be interesting to see if MMA will last or if it is a fad, if it lasts, how will boxing be affected, will MMA be a Olympic sport, and will boxing be absorbed into the MMA fold?
LOL it's a FAD.
back in 1996. they would ask us if we wanted to "get in the octogon". 15+ years of judo, no thanks, I like the way face is configured and I have a Science degree.
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MMA, has grown, but as some ESPN guys pointed out, it is not as poular as the NBA, NFL, or MLB, they don't need PPV, anytime you need PPV, you know it's more of niche. Because they don't pay the fighters as much a the boxers, shows that there is not as much money going around.
It will be interesting to see if MMA will last or if it is a fad, if it lasts, how will boxing be affected, will MMA be a Olympic sport, and will boxing be absorbed into the MMA fold?
I think boxing faded A bit because it was being percieved as being corrupt and shady.
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I think boxing faded A bit because it was being percieved as being corrupt and shady.
Exactly.
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I think boxing faded A bit because it was being percieved as being corrupt and shady.
How do you explain the meteoric rise of MMA in that last 5 yrs and the precipitous fall of bbing in the same time period?