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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Sherief Shalaby on December 27, 2009, 10:23:19 AM
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seriously does anyone else see paul better than nasser in this pic.??.. if you are an arab/muslim hater plz put your hatred aside for a while and answer frankly..
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seriously does anyone else see paul better than nasser in this pic.??.. if you are an arab/muslim hater plz put your hatred aside for a while and answer frankly..
Has nothing to do with race at least on my part ;) I explained to you in detail why he wins this shot , you think seeking comfort in like minded ignorant people means you're right? you don't even know what constitutes a great shot so how can you say who has the better one?
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This shot just crushes anything Nasser could muster
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Has nothing to do with race at least on my part ;) I explained to you in detail why he wins this shot , you think seeking comfort in like minded ignorant people means you're right? you don't even know what constitutes a great shot so how can you say who has the better one?
lol ok so dillet is one of the MANY who are better than nasser in this pose, can you tell me another name or 2??..
seriously you know nothing, you are just a magazines parrot :P
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if paul was facing the camera more instead of on an angle,,, it would be clear.
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This shot just crushes anything Nasser could muster
i really thought you were not seeing the truth when defending dorian only but now i have discovered that you are blind too when you attack nasser!!..
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In that particular shot Nasser wins. ND is full of it some times.
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i really thought you were not seeing the truth when defending dorian only but now i have discovered that you are blind too when you attack nasser!!..
Nasser gets credit from me I always said he was amazing at his best from the front but that's where it ends and ironic you bring up me attacking Nasser ;)
Anyone who says so-and-so has a better pose than Nasser it's an ' attack ' stop being so melodramatic and such a fan-boy
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lol ok so dillet is one of the MANY who are better than nasser in this pose, can you tell me another name or 2??..
seriously you know nothing, you are just a magazines parrot :P
Dorian at his best kills him , Flex Wheeler has one of the more underrated front double biceps shots , Ronnie , Arnold I mean the list goes on
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Nasser gets credit from me I always said he was amazing at his best from the front but that's where it ends and ironic you bring up me attacking Nasser ;)
Anyone who says so-and-so has a better pose than Nasser it's an ' attack ' stop being so melodramatic and such a fan-boy
no man but seriously it's CLEAR and doesnt need an expert to see how nasser was better shape wise and size wize than dillett in this pose!!..
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In that particular shot Nasser wins. ND is full of it some times.
Nasser is getting owned. Paul has better arm detail, chest detail, ab detail, quad sweep and detail, and a better taper from the lats to the the abs. The v taper actually looks like a huge triange if you visually remove Paul's arms. Paul had. Better all around structure to work with than Nasser did...period.
That being said, Nasser in that condition would have won this yrs Mr. O.
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no man but seriously it's CLEAR and doesnt need an expert to see how nasser was better shape wise and size wize than dillett in this pose!!..
Again you're harping on the parts YOU think he wins all the while ignoring the ones he's clearly losing in NOT how they judge contests kid sorry
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Dorian at his best kills him , Flex Wheeler has one of the more underrated front double biceps shots , Ronnie , Arnold I mean the list goes on
boooooooooooooohahahahah hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaa ND you are just a joke hahahhahahaa.. here is dorian at his best (according to him 95 was his best) and let's ignore his torn bicep, still nasser makes him his bitch ;D
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Dorian at his best kills him , Flex Wheeler has one of the more underrated front double biceps shots , Ronnie , Arnold I mean the list goes on
booooooooooooooohahahhah ahahahahhaaaaaaaa... just a big joke that mr. 30000+ post most of them about the same thing :-X
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boooooooooooooohahahahahhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ND you are just a joke hahahhahahaa.. here is dorian at his best (according to him 95 was his best) and let's ignore his torn bicep, still nasser makes him his bitch ;D
Pic on the right is 1996 FYI 1995 Olympia is his best Olympia showing and that pic proves me right , you think a torn bicep is reason enough to lose an entire pose? how about all rounds are physique rounds? you think because Nasser's bicep isn't torn he wins this pose? what about all the other aspects of the criteria?
This front double biceps shot crushes anything Nasser could manage from top to bottom , more complete too
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booooooooooooooohahahhahahahahahhaaaaaaaa... just a big joke that mr. 30000+ post most of them about the same thing :-X
Flex is killing him another backfire Sherief ;)
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Dorian at his best kills him , Flex Wheeler has one of the more underrated front double biceps shots , Ronnie , Arnold I mean the list goes on
hahahahahhahahahahahhaaa aaaaaaaaaa.... even at his best (mr. o. 98) still nasser owns him in this pose.. actually you are making fun of yourself mr. expert :-X
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Man, it's almost 2010. When are these guys gonna stop frickin' whining!? ::)
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seriously does anyone else see paul better than nasser in this pic.??.. if you are an arab/muslim hater plz put your hatred aside for a while and answer frankly..
Shut the fuck up with Nassoil already...Every fucking post or reply you manage to squeeze him in ... Geez..Get a life ... When he loses you post why he shouldn't have...Shut up ...
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hahahahahhahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... even at his best (mr. o. 98) still nasser owns him in this pose.. actually you are making fun of yourself mr. expert :-X
meltdown , continue please
mmmmmmm where was Nasser in 1998 again? ;)
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Pic on the right is 1996 FYI 1995 Olympia is his best Olympia showing and that pic proves me right , you think a torn bicep is reason enough to lose an entire pose? how about all rounds are physique rounds? you think because Nasser's bicep isn't torn he wins this pose? what about all the other aspects of the criteria?
This front double biceps shot crushes anything Nasser could manage from top to bottom , more complete too
i know well the right is from 1996!!!.. i was talking about the right.. as YOU KNOW i had made this comparisons long ago and i posted them now as they are.. so what is your point :-\
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meltdown , continue please
mmmmmmm where was Nasser in 1998 again? ;)
again mr. parrot is changing the subject, we are talking about the FDB here ::)
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i know well the right is from 1996!!!.. i was talking about the right.. as YOU KNOW i had made this comparisons long ago and i posted them now as they are.. so what is your point :-\
My point is Dorian won both those contests with straight firsts which means the judges saw fit that Dorian's front double biceps directly compared to Nasser
again more to a pose than what you think , stop cherry-picking what parts you like and leaving out the rest , that's called counting the pluses
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again mr. parrot is changing the subject, we are talking about the FDB here ::)
A pose which Ronnie beats Nasser in
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Man, it's almost 2010. When are these guys gonna stop frickin' whining!? ::)
When people admit Nasser should have beaten a career worse Dorian lmfao
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flex looks great in this pose when he is alone,.. beside nasser it's another story..
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flex looks great in this pose when he is alone,.. beside nasser it's another story..
Beside Nasser he looks like something the God's created , Nasser looks like something a downs syndrome child molded out of Play-Doh
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A pose which Ronnie beats Nasser in
hahahha.. how?.. with his gyno or with his weird abs or with his unexisted calves :-X
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hahahha.. how?.. with his gyno or with his weird abs or with his unexisted calves :-X
There you go again , cherry picking , how about with his superior biceps , overall muscularity and density?
you can't cherry pick which parts you like of the criteria all the while ignoring the whole , Nasser does have some advantages over Ronnie in this pose but when all things are considered he's losing and did lose.
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There you go again , cherry picking , how about with his superior biceps , overall muscularity and density?
you can't cherry pick which parts you like of the criteria all the while ignoring the whole , Nasser does have some advantages over Ronnie in this pose but when all things are considered he's losing and did lose.
again you are generalizing while we are supposed to talk about a certain pose ::)
so how come to give this pose to ronnie while all his weaknesses are exposed while nasser is nearly flawless!!.. say whatever you want but i am sure you dont agree with yourself :-X
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;D
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great you have hidden his calves but sorry his gyno and weird abs are still seen ;)
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again you are generalizing while we are supposed to talk about a certain pose ::)
so how come to give this pose to ronnie while all his weaknesses are exposed while nasser is nearly flawless!!.. say whatever you want but i am sure you dont agree with yourself :-X
Again I explained to you how it works you don't care about all of the criteria just what you think wins
Nasser is hardly flawless in that pose I already explained what his deficiencies are you're willing to overlook them , judges aren't
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Again I explained to you how it works you don't care about all of the criteria just what you think wins
Nasser is hardly flawless in that pose I already explained what his deficiencies are you're willing to overlook them , judges aren't
and what about ronnie's clearer deficiencues :-\
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great you have hidden his calves but sorry his gyno and weird abs are still seen ;)
So are his outstanding biceps and his superior muscularity and his dryness , I mean seriously don't pick what just you like while ignoring the rest
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So are his outstanding biceps and his superior muscularity and his dryness , I mean seriously don't pick what just you like while ignoring the rest
i dont and i really see nasser better than ronnie in this pose in 98 which is not nasser's best while it's ronnie's best.. at his best nasser's FDB was much better than the best FDB of ronnie and YOU KNOW THIS WELL..
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Hasn't team backpack kind of admitted defeat when they are left with trying to find one pose where the mantie salesman beats truly good bodybuilders.
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i dont and i really see nasser better than ronnie in this pose in 98 which is not nasser's best while it's ronnie's best.. at his best nasser's FDB was much better than the best FDB of ronnie and YOU KNOW THIS WELL..
Don't presume to speak for me , again Nasser has his advantages in this pose so does Ronnie as a whole who wins? I think Ronnie 2001 outclasses him .
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Hasn't team backpack kind of admitted defeat when they are left with trying to find one pose where the mantie salesman beats truly good bodybuilders.
They think he's the best in every pose nevermind one
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Don't presume to speak for me , again Nasser has his advantages in this pose so does Ronnie as a whole who wins? I think Ronnie 2001 outclasses him .
the best FDB ronnie ever hit could come close to this, seriously!!..
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They think he's the best in every pose nevermind one
Don't presume to speak for us :-X
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the best FDB ronnie ever hit could come close to this, seriously!!..
What a joke Nasser is, oil filled body parts.
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booooooooooooooohahahhahahahahahhaaaaaaaa... just a big joke that mr. 30000+ post most of them about the same thing :-X
flex wins.....
nasser outweighs him by a lot but flex has the size where he should
narow waiste and bigger arms than nasser who outweighs himby 30lbs...
genetics genetics genetics
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flex wins.....
nasser outweighs him by a lot but flex has the size where he should
narow waiste and bigger arms than nasser who outweighs himby 30lbs...
genetics genetics genetics
flex torso is narrow, without his huge arms his torso is not much bigger than ray's!!.. also nasser beats him clearly in quads and of course in calves!
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I think Nasser beats everybodys pics in that particular shot.
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I think Nasser beats everybodys pics in that particular shot.
nasser's FDB was clearly the best to the extent that even some one like meso who always says shit about nasser cant deny it!!..
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nasers torso to huge for his undersized arms
in bbing your arms can rareley be too big nassers huge torso swarves his arms....
flex pwns nasser
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Damn, Nasser has something like a 40" waist here :-\ Flex kills him
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=312224.0;attach=352768;image)
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nasers torso to huge for his undersized arms
in bbing your arms can rareley be too big nassers huge torso swarves his arms....
flex pwns nasser
sorry i need your eyes to see this :-X
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nasser out weighs flex by 30 but flex arms are bigger
genetics genetics genetics
small frame huge sweeping muscles
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nasser out weighs flex by 30 but flex arms are bigger
genetics genetics genetics
small frame huge sweeping muscles
man this thread is about nasser's FDB vs. dillett's FDB,.. in all seriousness who do you think is better in this pose?..
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im that picture i give it to nasser but bear in mind paul wasnt standing straiht facing the camera
but in that particular pic nasser wins
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seriously does anyone else see paul better than nasser in this pic.??.. if you are an arab/muslim hater plz put your hatred aside for a while and answer frankly..
paul all the way in the shot..
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im that picture i give it to nasser but bear in mind paul wasnt standing straiht facing the camera
but in that particular pic nasser wins
can i ask why didnt you say this from the beginning although this is the topic of the thread, instead you prefered to talk about flex vs. nasser :P
just kidding..
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nasser's FDB was clearly the best to the extent that even some one like meso who always says shit about nasser cant deny it!!..
im not agains nasser in person, im against the "team" and all these stupid posts.
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can i ask why didnt you say this from the beginning although this is the topic of the thread, instead you prefered to talk about flex vs. nasser :P
just kidding..
why? because your obsessed with nasser
you let bias blink you dillet is one of my fav bbers yet i can admit in that pic nasser wins....
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im not agains nasser in person, im against the "team" and all these stupid posts.
but dont you consider yourself stupid to comment on stupid posts?..
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why? because your obsessed with nasser
you let bias blink you dillet is one of my fav bbers yet i can admit in that pic nasser wins....
and i never said nasser was the best in all poses :-\
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=312224.0;attach=352765;image)
I think in this actual pic Nasser is winning, I have no doubt the judges marked him higher in that pose at that show. This also stands to reason as Nasser at his best always beat Dillet.
However, I prefer Dillet's look, and there are some pics of Dillet's front double biceps pose which are arguably amongst the best of all time, since structurally he was better than Nasser.
In competition Nasser was always harder and better conditioned though. Also despite Dillet's insane thickness his height makes his quads look less thick than Nasser's. On pure arm size though Dillet is superiorly impressive!
(http://hakanbod.sitemynet.com/mynet_resimlerim/dillettpaul.jpg)
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nasser out weighs flex by 30 but flex arms are bigger
genetics genetics genetics
small frame huge sweeping muscles
Huge sweeping synthol from both of them.
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Nasser easily over Paul....Paul's FDB was always a little funky due to lack of chest thickness with arms raised, and his lats are way out of proportion with the rest of him. Nasser is well-proportioned from the front and very detailed, imo, this comparison isn't even close and I'm not a guy by any means
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Huge sweeping synthol from both of them.
even before he used symthol
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I reckon Nasser started using it in 97 and would guess Flex was the same.
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the best FDB ronnie ever hit could come close to this, seriously!!..
Great shot , shows off his lacking forearms and high lats
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seriously does anyone else see paul better than nasser in this pic.??.. if you are an arab/muslim hater plz put your hatred aside for a while and answer frankly..
Sherief when you say Nasser looks better than Paul in this picture on what criteria are you referring too? is it a symmetry angle? a skeletal structure thing, a who has a better V Taper? better lines? more mass all round? who has "more muscle" all round in this pose? im asking the question because as ive mentioned before everyone's opinion is different...and results are judged on the day @ the actual contest by judges im assuming are more than qualified to make those decisions.
When i look @ that Picture my immediate thoughts are...Paul has a superior V taper and lines which gives him in that pose a more pleasing BODYBUILDING look than Nasser, however if your looking for just huge muscle mass all put on the body parts well i guess Nasser gets your vote whoever you are... both were mass monsters and while Nasser was a massive huge guy IMO i didnt think because he was more massive/cut than most the blokes back in the 90s that fact alone should of made him "better" than the likes of Flex, Dorian, Paul etc, i go off Skeletal structure first, then lines (as in flow of the upper and lower body- parts) proportion, muscle belly's, conditioning, etc etc...roughly in that order not who has "more muscle" than the next guy... again thats my opinion.
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Nasser is getting owned. Paul has better arm detail, chest detail, ab detail, quad sweep and detail, and a better taper from the lats to the the abs. The v taper actually looks like a huge triange if you visually remove Paul's arms. Paul had. Better all around structure to work with than Nasser did...period.
That being said, Nasser in that condition would have won this yrs Mr. O.
Agree, its also hard as paul is not standing front on as Lion said but look from Pauls hip upwards , thats a perfect triangle with his shoulder structure then look at nassers he doesnt have the same width/taper.
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nasser wins
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Sherief when you say Nasser looks better than Paul in this picture on what criteria are you referring too? is it a symmetry angle? a skeletal structure thing, a who has a better V Taper? better lines? more mass all round? who has "more muscle" all round in this pose? im asking the question because as ive mentioned before everyone's opinion is different...and results are judged on the day @ the actual contest by judges im assuming are more than qualified to make those decisions.
When i look @ that Picture my immediate thoughts are...Paul has a superior V taper and lines which gives him in that pose a more pleasing BODYBUILDING look than Nasser, however if your looking for just huge muscle mass all put on the body parts well i guess Nasser gets your vote whoever you are... both were mass monsters and while Nasser was a massive huge guy IMO i didnt think because he was more massive/cut than most the blokes back in the 90s that fact alone should of made him "better" than the likes of Flex, Dorian, Paul etc, i go off Skeletal structure first, then lines (as in flow of the upper and lower body- parts) proportion, muscle belly's, conditioning, etc etc...roughly in that order not who has "more muscle" than the next guy... again thats my opinion.
Same here.
I know that BBing contests are not judged that way, it's about who carries the most conditioned muscle, but I look at structure and shape first.
That's why I'm not a Big fan of the Nasser-type physique.
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Shalaby sees only what he wants to. He ignores all the facts and anyone who doesn't share his lovestruck opinion on nasser is somehow wrong. ::)
That's why ND is a thorn in his/bobs side.
Team nasser has lost every debate with him :D
Once again shorty sha-labia is getting brutally owned on yet another thread ;D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=312224.0;attach=352765;image)
I think in this actual pic Nasser is winning, I have no doubt the judges marked him higher in that pose at that show. This also stands to reason as Nasser at his best always beat Dillet.
However, I prefer Dillet's look, and there are some pics of Dillet's front double biceps pose which are arguably amongst the best of all time, since structurally he was better than Nasser.
In competition Nasser was always harder and better conditioned though. Also despite Dillet's insane thickness his height makes his quads look less thick than Nasser's. On pure arm size though Dillet is superiorly impressive!
(http://hakanbod.sitemynet.com/mynet_resimlerim/dillettpaul.jpg)
i always respect your opinion even when i dont agree with you.. you always say what you think in a respectful way..
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Dillet's chest and torso looks extremely flat/thin in comparison to Nasser's in the FDB. Also, even though Nasser gets criticized for having narrow lats his lats flare out much better than Dillet's in that pose. Like I've said before Paul was not much more than big arms and a narrow waist.
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Sherief when you say Nasser looks better than Paul in this picture on what criteria are you referring too? is it a symmetry angle? a skeletal structure thing, a who has a better V Taper? better lines? more mass all round? who has "more muscle" all round in this pose? im asking the question because as ive mentioned before everyone's opinion is different...and results are judged on the day @ the actual contest by judges im assuming are more than qualified to make those decisions.
When i look @ that Picture my immediate thoughts are...Paul has a superior V taper and lines which gives him in that pose a more pleasing BODYBUILDING look than Nasser, however if your looking for just huge muscle mass all put on the body parts well i guess Nasser gets your vote whoever you are... both were mass monsters and while Nasser was a massive huge guy IMO i didnt think because he was more massive/cut than most the blokes back in the 90s that fact alone should of made him "better" than the likes of Flex, Dorian, Paul etc, i go off Skeletal structure first, then lines (as in flow of the upper and lower body- parts) proportion, muscle belly's, conditioning, etc etc...roughly in that order not who has "more muscle" than the next guy... again thats my opinion.
hi johnny, aside of team nasser and the fact that sometimes i exaggerate things for fun on the behalf of nasser, i seriously see him better than dillett and the others of his time in this specific pose.. if we go from down to up i see they both have great calves (big/good shape) then again both have great quads but nasser's are more massive and a little bigger.. then nasser's abs looks better and more symmetrical (i mean the right set with the left set) then again nasser has the thicker chest (it's clear if you look at their lower chests in this pic).. also nassers shoulders appear to be more round in this pose.. and nasser's lats are wider.. as for arms nasser's biceps are a little bigger and dillett's triceps are a little bigger but over all i see both have equally good arms in this pose..
over all i see nasser nearly flawless in this pose, his upper body is a little bit long for his lower body but i see the same in dillett!!.. still both of them are better than levrone or mike matarazzo in this.. nasser's different muscles come together in a better shape than dillet, everything in him is equally big/thick/good shaped.. he doesnt have a part that overpowers the rest of him and over all he is more symmetrical and well proportional than paul.. on the other side i really thing that dillet's limbs (arms and legs) especially his arms overmass his torso!!.. his torso is relatevly narrow.. he also needed a thicker chest and wider lats to good well with his great arms..
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I will just say it as I see it,,
Nassir VS Pual = Nassir wins for sure.
The Top 3 Front Double Biceps pose that I have ever seen are for;- 1st Shawn, 2nd Nassir & 3rd Ahmed Haidar.
The worst front Double Biceps I have ever seen is for DORIAN “some body parts less” YATES.[/b]
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and finally ND achieved his dream and met dorian :-X
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and finally ND achieved his dream and met dorian :-X
and bobs achieved his dream by being personally autographed by nasser :-X
Now that's some serious memorabilia
(http://i50.tinypic.com/fldp1l.jpg)
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hey tyr but let's not forget that you too were happy when you met nasser :-X
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hey tyr but let's not forget that you too were happy when you met nasser :-X
Yes I wasn't so happy because I saw you at nassers feet.Then again you're a muslim dog so its perfectly normal right?
I know nasser wasn't happy with you slobbering all over his leg either.
At least he has you on a leash...ya flea bitten mongrel
:D :D :D :D
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and finally ND achieved his dream and met dorian :-X
Another miss Sherief sorry ;)
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Another miss Sherief sorry ;)
He's quite a little character isn't he?
You'd think he'd feel some shame after being so brutally owned so many times but I guess he's too stupid to see his own SHORTcomings.
:D :D :D
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He's quite a little character isn't he?
You'd think he'd feel some shame after being so brutally owned so many times but I guess he's too stupid to see his own SHORTcomings.
:D :D :D
He only made that because I scanned him some new Nasser pics for his Facebook account ;D
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He only made that because I scanned him some new Nasser pics for his Facebook account ;D
and you scanned them only after i proved you worng 2 times yesterday :P
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Why does Nasser hit the pose with arms angled up, when everybody else has the parallel or near parallel to the ground? It makes the pose look less impressive, and makes him look like he doesn't know how to hit it correctly (he doesn't, becase all the pics thru-out the yrs show the same angled arms)
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Nice.
Then again that's all that poor little hyena has in his life - his entire existence on getbig is devoted to his constant meltdowns when the truth about nasser is pointed out to him......... time and time again.
He can't accept the fact that he's worshiping a wifebeating, bitter, 2nd tier blockybuilder who ekes out a living selling worn thongs to a schmoe clientele'
Then again sha-labia lives in Egypt so he's used to living in denial
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and you scanned them only after i proved you worng 2 times yesterday :P
No it was the other way around.
That's why you're so wracked with rage and shame.
Living in disgrace must be normal for you.....right little chihuaha?
Hah ha ha
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i always respect your opinion even when i dont agree with you.. you always say what you think in a respectful way..
Cheers man, good to converse with someone not entirely composed of venomous nasty insecure words.
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and you scanned them only after i proved you worng 2 times yesterday :P
WRONG those were scanned long before yesterday ;) and you didnn't prove anything you never can that's the problem .
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WRONG those were scanned long before yesterday ;) and you didnn't prove anything you never can that's the problem .
no kid i proved you wrong 2 times on that day:
1) you said that it was better for nasser not to play the size game because it didnt fit his structure.. i told you that before being a mass monster he wasnt a very top pro and he was referred to as the next mr. olympia only after adding 20 lbs, so it was a very right decision even if this took some of his back details.. then as always you contradicted yourself and said his best was when he was 250 lbs as if at this weight he was not a mass monster who played the size game!!.. i would respect your opinion more if you said it was right for him to play the size game but to a certain limit..
2) you said that there were MANY who had better FDB than nasser and according to you these many were ronnie while all his flaws were exposed in this pose, flex who had no calves and had a narrow torso than didnt go well with his huge arms, dorian who really had a good FDB before tearing his bicep but still nasser had better quads, chest, abs, and biceps, and paul dillet who for sure had great arms but lacked the over all shape and muscle density of nasser..
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no kid i proved you wrong 2 times on that day:
1) you said that it was better for nasser not to play the size game because it didnt fit his structure.. i told you that before being a mass monster he wasnt a very top pro and he was referred to as the next mr. olympia only after adding 20 lbs, so it was a very right decision even if this took some of his back details.. then as always you contradicted yourself and said his best was when he was 250 lbs as if at this weight he was not a mass monster who played the size game!!.. i would respect your opinion more if you said it was right for him to play the size game but to a certain limit..
2) you said that there were MANY who had better FDB than nasser and according to you these many were ronnie while all his flaws were exposed in this pose, flex who had no calves and had a narrow torso than didnt go well with his huge arms, dorian who really had a good FDB before tearing his bicep but still nasser had better quads, chest, abs, and biceps, and paul dillet who for sure had great arms but lacked the over all shape and muscle density of nasser..
Nasser has synthol in his bis, long torso, stubby legs and his head is too big
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Nasser has synthol in his bis, long torso, stubby legs and his head is too big
do you mean in this pic. which is from 1996 there was synthol in his arms?.. ::)
his lower body was a little bit short for his upper body but to a lesser degree than someone like kevin levrone whom you see a great bb and never mentioned this flaw in him!!.. also ronnie whom you consider the best bb ever had a similar flaw but the other way, i mean his lower body was clearly long for his upper body.. still you never mentioned this!!..
you guys are very clever to mention nasser's weak points only then you are blind when judging the others :-\
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do you mean in this pic. which is from 1996 there was synthol in his arms?.. ::)
his lower body was a little bit short for his upper body but to a lesser degree than someone like kevin levrone whom you see a great bb and never mentioned this flaw in him!!.. also ronnie whom you consider the best bb ever had a similar flaw but the other way, i mean his lower body was clearly long for his upper body.. still you never mentioned this!!..
you guys are very clever to mention nasser's weak points only then you are blind when judging the others :-\
calm down sherif.
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calm down sherif.
hey man you said your opinion and told you mine, isn't it supposed to be a discussion??.. the diff. is that i say my opinion and then explain but you just say for example ''nasser looks like shit" but why or how, you dont know!!.. i cant say for example ronnie's back looks bad because i just dont like it!!.. to judge something you must be neutral :P
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This front double biceps shot crushes anything Nasser could manage from top to bottom , more complete too
sure i agree with you that this FDB of dorian is just amazing and for sure the best of him in this pose.. as a bb fan i really feel bad he never competed at this shape!!.. but if you compare it to one of nasser's at his best, nasser still beats him!..
if we go from down to up, dorian's calves are better and nasser's quads are better still the lower body goes to nasser because the proportion between his quads and calves is better than dorian's whose calves overpower his quads and also because quads are more important than calves (imagine if ronnie had great calves but no quads would have he won an olympia?!).. as for upper bodies, dorian is fuller in these particular pics but nasser is harder and more detailed in all parts.. also his abs and biceps are naturally better.. where you can say nasser's forearms are a little small for his arms you can say that dorian's forearms are clearly big for his arms which i see a worse flaw than nasser's..
over all at their best both were great in this pose but still i give it to nasser!..
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sure i agree with you that this FDB of dorian is just amazing and for sure the best of him in this pose.. as a bb fan i really feel bad he never competed at this shape!!.. but if you compare it to one of nasser's at his best, nasser still beats him!..
if we go from down to up, dorian's calves are better and nasser's quads are better still the lower body goes to nasser because the proportion between his quads and calves is better than dorian's whose calves overpower his quads and also because quads are more important than calves (imagine if ronnie had great calves but no quads would have he won an olympia?!).. as for upper bodies, dorian is fuller in these particular pics but nasser is harder and more detailed in all parts.. also his abs and biceps are naturally better.. where you can say nasser's forearms are a little small for his arms you can say that dorian's forearms are clearly big for his arms which i see a worse flaw than nasser's..
over all at their best both were great in this pose but still i give it to nasser!..
Your scaling abilities suck coming from a Nasser-fan-boy I didn't expect anything accurate. They do not have the same length legs , or torsos yet in your comparison they are , remember Nasser has a long torso and short legs Dorian doesn't. Just take a look at the calves ::) Nasser had good calves not Dorian calves yet in your comparison they're bigger ??? I don't think so
And how you come to your conclusions are beyond me , quads are more important than calves? says who? and how did you come to the conclusion Nasser's quads are better? NO explanation , they're just better and we should take your word for it ::)
and how the fuck do you come to the conclusion who is harder? and more detailed from two completely different pictures especially considering Nasser is tanned and has posing oil and Yates has none. you took a lot of liberties in this ' comparison ' came to a lot of unsupported conclusions and backed up your point with a slanted comparison and nonsense
please do us all a favor and go back to the drawing board because this is horrible
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Your scaling abilities suck coming from a Nasser-fan-boy I didn't expect anything accurate. They do not have the same length legs , or torsos yet in your comparison they are , remember Nasser has a long torso and short legs Dorian doesn't. Just take a look at the calves ::) Nasser had good calves not Dorian calves yet in your comparison they're bigger ??? I don't think so
And how you come to your conclusions are beyond me , quads are more important than calves? says who? and how did you come to the conclusion Nasser's quads are better? NO explanation , they're just better and we should take your word for it ::)
and how the fuck do you come to the conclusion who is harder? and more detailed from two completely different pictures especially considering Nasser is tanned and has posing oil and Yates has none. you took a lot of liberties in this ' comparison ' came to a lot of unsupported conclusions and backed up your point with a slanted comparison and nonsense
please do us all a favor and go back to the drawing board because this is horrible
so according to you dorian's quads are better here ::).. nasser's are clearly more detailed and look better shape wise, i didnt feel there was a need to mention this as it's very clear.. nasser is tanned yes but the lighting in dorian's pic is better..
sure idiot quads are more important than calves and again i am giving you ronnie as an example, imagine if he had great calves but no quads at all would have he won any olympia??.. but still he is 8X mr. olympia while he had great quads and no calves at all.. also dorian's great calves are too big for his quads, same with his forearms/arms.. so sometimes very good/big parts play against the overall symmetry and proportion..
instead of showing your assholeness i was expecting you to let me know in details and in a more repectful way how do you see dorian better :-\
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so according to you dorian's quads are better here ::).. nasser's are clearly more detailed and look better shape wise, i didnt feel there was a need to mention this as it's very clear.. nasser is tanned yes but the lighting in dorian's pic is better..
sure idiot quads are more important than calves and again i am giving you ronnie as an example, imagine if he had great calves but no quads at all would have he won any olympia??.. but still he is 8X mr. olympia while he had great quads and no calves at all.. also dorian's great calves are too big for his quads, same with his forearms/arms.. so sometimes very good/big parts play against the overall symmetry and proportion..
instead of showing your assholeness i was expecting you to let me know in details and in a more repectful way how do you see dorian better :-\
so according to you dorian's quads are better here ::).. nasser's are clearly more detailed and look better shape wise, i didnt feel there was a need to mention this as it's very clear.. nasser is tanned yes but the lighting in dorian's pic is better..
You're drawing your own conclusions ( you do this often ) did I say they were better? I asked how did you come to the conclusion they were better? and your vague response when pressed is , clearly more detailed and look better shape wise ::) great way to elaborate on your point. Nasser is tanned and has posing oil and I disagree the lighting is better in the Nasser pic
sure idiot quads are more important than calves and again i am giving you ronnie as an example, imagine if he had great calves but no quads at all would have he won any olympia??.. but still he is 8X mr. olympia while he had great quads and no calves at all.. also dorian's great calves are too big for his quads, same with his forearms/arms.. so sometimes very good/big parts play against the overall symmetry and proportion..
To use your own warped logic against you and entertaining Nasser did have better quads explain why he never beat Dorian despite this advantage? and piss-poor analogy anyway because Dorian does have quads and calves , Ronnie never had calves so your point is moot. And Dorian's calves are to big? LMFAO says you who ironically has smaller calves in your comparison than Nasser LOL
One part I do agree with you on his very good/big parts play against overall symmetry , strong parts can be a ' weakness ' if their only purposes is to highlight weaker ones however this isn't the case with Dorian , especially when it comes to proportionate forearms which he has and Nasser DOES NOT analogous to Ronnie's calves , Nasser's lack of forearms can be seen when directly compared to someone who has the like Yates
You also neglected other very important aspects of symmetry & proportion like torso length , Nasser has a long torso , Dorian doesn't his is almost perfect upper/lower balance , leg length Nasser has short legs , Dorian doesn't , proportionate forearms , Nasser has highish lats Dorian doesn't. ALL of this comes into play so even entertaining your assessment Nasser is still behind Yates in balance & proportion, what you did was cherry-pick what you think wins while ignoring the rest NOT how it works
instead of showing your assholeness i was expecting you to let me know in details and in a more repectful way how do you see dorian better :-\
I don't think I was coming across as an asshole or disrespectful ??? just pointing out the many problems with your laughable comparison
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Why the massive hardon for Nasser sherief? Your consistent effort and determination is unreal.
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Once again sha-labia has managed to start a Yates vs nasser debate.
When he can't make a credible argument he resorts to insulting people.
Hey shalabia - before you start calling other people 'asshole" take a good look at your own behavior.
You deserve that title more than anyone else here......damn retarded crybaby
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I really try to see how Nasser is such a good bodybuilder and I come to the conclusion that the guy was somehow massive, but looked incomplete from certain angles. He just seems to lack some sort of depth in his physique. On the other hand you have Dillet who has proportions that on paper sound a blessing, but in practice never really made that big of an impact. What Dorian had was a complete package, even with the tears, he was far too dominant from the side and rear to put up an argument for anyone beating him. Even with the tear, his front relaxed, ab-thigh and front lat spread weren't hurt enough to justify the said poses being 'ruined'
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I really try to see how Nasser is such a good bodybuilder and I come to the conclusion that the guy was somehow massive, but looked incomplete from certain angles. He just seems to lack some sort of depth in his physique. On the other hand you have Dillet who has proportions that on paper sound a blessing, but in practice never really made that big of an impact. What Dorian had was a complete package, even with the tears, he was far too dominant from the side and rear to put up an argument for anyone beating him. Even with the tear, his front relaxed, ab-thigh and front lat spread weren't hurt enough to justify the said poses being 'ruined'
but here we are talking about the FDB which you didnt mention in your post ::)..
sure in 97 dorian's totally torn arm hurt his FLS a lot,.. compare his FLS of 93 with that of 93 or even 97 to see the clear diff.
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Once again sha-labia has managed to start a Yates vs nasser debate.
When he can't make a credible argument he resorts to insulting people.
Hey shalabia - before you start calling other people 'asshole" take a good look at your own behavior.
You deserve that title more than anyone else here......damn retarded crybaby
so according to you piece of shit dorian was better than nasser in the FDB? ::).. i know that you know nothing about bb and just come here to show your hatred :-\
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You're drawing your own conclusions ( you do this often ) did I say they were better? I asked how did you come to the conclusion they were better? and your vague response when pressed is , clearly more detailed and look better shape wise ::) great way to elaborate on your point. Nasser is tanned and has posing oil and I disagree the lighting is better in the Nasser pic
To use your own warped logic against you and entertaining Nasser did have better quads explain why he never beat Dorian despite this advantage? and piss-poor analogy anyway because Dorian does have quads and calves , Ronnie never had calves so your point is moot. And Dorian's calves are to big? LMFAO says you who ironically has smaller calves in your comparison than Nasser LOL
One part I do agree with you on his very good/big parts play against overall symmetry , strong parts can be a ' weakness ' if their only purposes is to highlight weaker ones however this isn't the case with Dorian , especially when it comes to proportionate forearms which he has and Nasser DOES NOT analogous to Ronnie's calves , Nasser's lack of forearms can be seen when directly compared to someone who has the like Yates
You also neglected other very important aspects of symmetry & proportion like torso length , Nasser has a long torso , Dorian doesn't his is almost perfect upper/lower balance , leg length Nasser has short legs , Dorian doesn't , proportionate forearms , Nasser has highish lats Dorian doesn't. ALL of this comes into play so even entertaining your assessment Nasser is still behind Yates in balance & proportion, what you did was cherry-pick what you think wins while ignoring the rest NOT how it works
I don't think I was coming across as an asshole or disrespectful ??? just pointing out the many problems with your laughable comparison
you cant say nasser has short legs AND long torso as if these are 2 diff. flaws ::).. his rorso by itself is not long (long for what)!!.. and his legs are not short separately (short for what)!!..
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I really try to see how Nasser is such a good bodybuilder and I come to the conclusion that the guy was somehow massive, but looked incomplete from certain angles. He just seems to lack some sort of depth in his physique. On the other hand you have Dillet who has proportions that on paper sound a blessing, but in practice never really made that big of an impact. What Dorian had was a complete package, even with the tears, he was far too dominant from the side and rear to put up an argument for anyone beating him. Even with the tear, his front relaxed, ab-thigh and front lat spread weren't hurt enough to justify the said poses being 'ruined'
I've always said this...good post.
When you see Nasser in person you say to yourself "how can someone so big look small" it's because he has a very big head and big bone structure.
His head is the size of a Volkswagen
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not this shit again..
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I've always said this...good post.
When you see Nasser in person you say to yourself "how can someone so big look small" it's because he has a very big head and big bone structure.
His head is the size of a Volkswagen
Are you trying to say it's a bit ironic that Nasser refers to others as Pumpkinheads when he has the local village prize winning vegetable on top of his own shoulders?
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Are you trying to say it's a bit ironic that Nasser refers to others as Pumpkinheads when he has the local village prize winning vegetable on top of his own shoulders?
I would never imply such a thing
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you cant say nasser has short legs AND long torso as if these are 2 diff. flaws ::).. his rorso by itself is not long (long for what)!!.. and his legs are not short separately (short for what)!!..
You guys have brought Nasser hate here yourselfs by comparing him to every current pro. He was great and his FDB waxes Dorians, cmon.But if anyone beats Nasser on that shot , it's Dillet. He shoulder to waist ratio is unreal. Just standing he looked unbeatable and everyone says he was lazy but I dont think training harder could have got him over the hump. His BDB was weird almost like he was missing entire muscles in his back. His shoulders were sick wide and vascular but looked like giant bags of water again in the BDB pose. As a naturally big hipped (bone wise not fat,my waist cant get any smaller than 33-34") white person I envied his waistline. He had the best abs of any guys 260lbs+. Back to Nasser , you know he is having nightmares about Groinks famous cellphone tanktop picture. Any clear pics yet Groink? I dont know I think I got something for ya.(No hom0)
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you cant say nasser has short legs AND long torso as if these are 2 diff. flaws ::).. his rorso by itself is not long (long for what)!!.. and his legs are not short separately (short for what)!!..
Hahahahahah everything I typed this is the only thing respond to? ::) you never backed up or elaborated on any of your claims however you're right guys with long torsos usually have short stubby legs like Nasser and highish lats too but should I omit that as well or is that part and parcel of the long torso problem?
Front double biceps is one of Nasser's strong poses it's actually very good but I thing when directly compared to Dorian ( at his best ) Dorian has less flaws and more strengths
come back when you can elaborate and explain your blanket statements and have a better grasp of how contests are judged ;)