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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2009, 02:58:57 PM
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According to a recent study, supplementing with just two grams of L glutamine daily increased growth hormones by over 400%
http://www.mens-total-fitness.com/L-glutamine-dosage.html
Really?
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how come there is like 10 other studies proving that is doesnt do shit?
funny how this stuff works.
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complete bullshit!!!!!!
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Sure it does. Lots of things boost GH. Doesn't mean it does anything for you as a bodybuilder.
how come there is like 10 other studies proving that is doesnt do shit?
funny how this stuff works.
Glutamine has been shown to increase GH in previous studies.
Edit: the article refers to the old study most likely. Not recent by any means.
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According to a recent study, supplementing with just two grams of L glutamine daily increased growth hormones by over 400%
http://www.mens-total-fitness.com/L-glutamine-dosage.html
Really?
Study seems rather incomplete.
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i rated glutamine
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i rated glutamine
&...
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No way - eat a steak and veggies
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&...
i think it does a body good
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i think it does a body good
Really? I never noticed anything when taking it (good or bad).
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How many of you use/have used it?
Did you like/dislike it?
I have some in the closet that I got free a few months back. thinking bout trying it.
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i think it does a body good
I'm with you dogg. Very under rated supp.
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Really? I never noticed anything when taking it (good or bad).
i thought it was very good. Plus when i take a weightgainer with it in it i never feel tired as oppossed to one without.
I think its a great supp
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only glutamine peptides is worth taking. The normal stuff gets destroyed by your stomach acids..
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L Glutamine is a huge placebo hype and is worthless unless you inject it intravenously. The first studies that laid claim to increased immune functioning and repair of muscle tissue, etc. were done on burn victims but unfortunately they failed to mention that it was in high doses injected directly into the bloodstream. When you take 10 grams orally about 98% gets broken down by stomach acids before it has a chance to do anything positive....huge waste of money hands down...
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i inject my glutamine straight into the blood, bypassing the stomach acids
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i inject my glutamine straight into the blood, bypassing the stomach acids
Goudy is a juicer :o
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cant risk losing my 20quid by those pesky stomach acids
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only glutamine peptides is worth taking. The normal stuff gets destroyed by your stomach acids..
L Glutamine is a huge placebo hype and is worthless unless you inject it intravenously. The first studies that laid claim to increased immune functioning and repair of muscle tissue, etc. were done on burn victims but unfortunately they failed to mention that it was in high doses injected directly into the bloodstream. When you take 10 grams orally about 98% gets broken down by stomach acids before it has a chance to do anything positive....huge waste of money hands down...
I don't think the "problem" is with bioavailability. Some of it does pass into the blood stream. Whether it's IV or through oral peptides it just does not increase muscle growth. If it did bodybuilders would be shooting it, better believe it.
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I tried glutamine and it didn't do anything at all. IMO just another over-hyped cheap to make supplement being pushed on us to make more $.
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Oh I agree but in the end its been one of the biggest hypes on supplement store shelves for years....complete waste of money if your looking for something to help you in achieving a muscular physique in any shape or form...
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has it not been proven to help the immune systems of terminally ill people or seriously ill people
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Just want to throw out there that you need to look at WHO conducts the studies and with what controls, etc. There are a ton of variables to take into consideration. On paper, tons of compounds look amazing but in real life they blow.
Intravenous glutamine is okay if you're a burn victim, oral glutamine will not do an appreciable amount of "good". It's probably more beneficial for your gut than it is conducive to bodybuilding. There is a ton of glutamine in protein powders and the fools on bb.com that are obsessed with proteins and supplements are bean poles, or horribly skinny fat if they have a decent amount of size.
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i can remember a seminar with ian harrison when one of the lads in the audience asked him a question on what time he should take his gmb... he laughed for a while then told us that all supps apart from proteins were a complete waste of time and money, and that none of the pros botherd with them, just stick to good food and gear!..the lad was devestated, must have been practicing his question in his mind all afternoon,
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I like it. It seems to give my immune system a boost, and helps me somewhat recover from my workouts. I recommend it.
I use 5 grams daily. Just drop it in my mouth, and take a swig of water to down it.
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I like it. It seems to give my immune system a boost, and helps me somewhat recover from my workouts. I recommend it.
I use 5 grams daily. Just drop it in my mouth, and take a swig of water to down it.
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BCAA's are better big studs.
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According to a recent study, supplementing with just two grams of L glutamine daily increased growth hormones by over 400%
http://www.mens-total-fitness.com/L-glutamine-dosage.html
Really?
NO :D
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You my friend are experiencing the good ol placebo effect in full force as it doesnt do shit for your immune system but if you truely believe it does and trick yourself that it has immune stregthining properties then it will possibly help with the sole power of positive thought and not the supplement itself....
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not being a dick what are you an expert on disgusted?
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not being a dick what are you an expert on disgusted?
Why?
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Why?
Disgusted knows his shiite!
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as van bilderass said, there are tons of different little supplements that truly do increase gh quite a bit.
and as vanbilderass also said, it just doesnt mean much at all in terms of real worl benefits.
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I don't think the "problem" is with bioavailability. Some of it does pass into the blood stream. Whether it's IV or through oral peptides it just does not increase muscle growth. If it did bodybuilders would be shooting it, better believe it.
So Van B, thumbs up or down? You're the appointed authority around here (gh15 approved).
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Same. Use it this time of year for your immune system, otherwise, don't bother it won't do anything "BB"wise
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glutamine is as useful as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.
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400% more of pretty much nothing is still pretty much nuthin.
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Why?
cos i am wondering why you have expert stars and what is your specialist field?
simple question
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Well, if 2g's is good, the 40g's I intake every day should be better....right? 8)
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I like it. It seems to give my immune system a boost, and helps me somewhat recover from my workouts. I recommend it.
I use 5 grams daily. Just drop it in my mouth, and take a swig of water to down it.
I like it as well. 2 grams/day here.
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cos i am wondering why you have expert stars and what is your specialist field?
simple question
he is not an expert in anything, no phd, nothing.
Glutamine is useless for oral consumption, it degrades in hcl quite rapidly and becomes a substrate for gluconeogenesis via uptake of enteric mucosal cells.
IV is different but oral has a very poor bioavalibility. I would opt for other particular aminos.
where is this study, i see a guy saying a study, anyone have the paper?
Im positive its a shit study.
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im positive by disgusted's response his expertise lies in very little
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im positive by disgusted's response his expertise lies in very little
Disgusted is a very well respected Contest prep guy. many professional men and female copetitors use him for their prep, and almost all of the time his competitors come in fantastic shape.
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who is he?
who uses him?
is a contest prep guru similar to a steroid dealer?
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im positive by disgusted's response his expertise lies in very little
yes its a sad day.
i like the guy, but he knows dick all about nutrition, he couldnt tell you the krebs cycle, what fructokinase or G6D is, cetripedal transport, what chylomicrons are or the steps in gluconeogenesis.
he is a good guy but if he is claiming to be an expert, i feel bad for those with educations.
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Sometimes I mistake my glutamine for my ecstasy.It makes for an interesting workout to say the least...
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Disgusted is a very well respected Contest prep guy. many professional men and female copetitors use him for their prep, and almost all of the time his competitors come in fantastic shape.
contest prep is pretty straightforward, its not rocket science.
if he is claiming to be an expert in contest prep then i would agree, i thought he was claiming nutrition and exercise expertise.
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contest prep is pretty straightforward, its not rocket science.
if he is claiming to be an expert in contest prep then i would agree, i thought he was claiming nutrition and exercise expertise.
i have nver seen a post from him claiming t be an expert. he just has "expert stars".
anyway the guy has whole lot of real worl first hand experience with training, diet, drgs, contest prep, offseason diet. etc etc etc. the pro's pay him good money to help them out to look better.
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I am not an expert, by any means.
But I took glutamine all day yesterday, even sipping glut/creatine with gatorade during my workout. I beat the shit out of legs for 75 minutes and thought I'd be limping today. I'm not. Very weird lack of DOMS.
I must have done a total of 7 sets of standard then front squats, followed by 4 sets of barbell lunges. Then leg press. Then lots of leg curls, glute machine, heavy ass calf raises...
Maybe the glutamine did it, then?
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I am not an expert, by any means.
But I took glutamine all day yesterday, even sipping glut/creatine with gatorade during my workout. I beat the shit out of legs for 75 minutes and thought I'd be limping today. I'm not. Very weird lack of DOMS.
I must have done a total of 7 sets of standard then front squats, followed by 4 sets of barbell lunges. Then leg press. Then lots of leg curls, glute machine, heavy ass calf raises...
Maybe the glutamine did it, then?
he is not an expert in anything, no phd, nothing.
Glutamine is useless for oral consumption, it degrades in hcl quite rapidly and becomes a substrate for gluconeogenesis via uptake of enteric mucosal cells.
IV is different but oral has a very poor bioavalibility. I would opt for other particular aminos.
where is this study, i see a guy saying a study, anyone have the paper?
Im positive its a shit study.
;)
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I am not an expert, by any means.
But I took glutamine all day yesterday, even sipping glut/creatine with gatorade during my workout. I beat the shit out of legs for 75 minutes and thought I'd be limping today. I'm not. Very weird lack of DOMS.
I must have done a total of 7 sets of standard then front squats, followed by 4 sets of barbell lunges. Then leg press. Then lots of leg curls, glute machine, heavy ass calf raises...
Maybe the glutamine did it, then?
maybe you will be sore tom?
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i found that glut never got as bad DOMS
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This is 100% right on:
400% more of pretty much nothing is still pretty much nuthin.
If you've read the research you'll know it agrees too.
he is not an expert in anything, no phd, nothing.
Glutamine is useless for oral consumption, it degrades in hcl quite rapidly and becomes a substrate for gluconeogenesis via uptake of enteric mucosal cells.
IV is different but oral has a very poor bioavalibility. I would opt for other particular aminos.
where is this study, i see a guy saying a study, anyone have the paper?
Im positive its a shit study.
www.ajcn.org/cgi/reprint/61/5/1058.pdf
What other aminos would you "opt for" and why?
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maybe you will be sore tom?
maybe my name isn't tom.
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cos i am wondering why you have expert stars and what is your specialist field?
simple question
Ron gave them to me. Maybe a PM to him would clear it up. :)
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i have nver seen a post from him claiming t be an expert. he just has "expert stars".
anyway the guy has whole lot of real worl first hand experience with training, diet, drgs, contest prep, offseason diet. etc etc etc. the pro's pay him good money to help them out to look better.
Thanks for the props. I claim nothing. I also never take anything on here seriously. Fact is I have worked with more "regular" people than bbers. I literally have 100's of hours worth of reading medical books, nutrition whatever. I love to read and I have no college education. Not that there is anyting wrong with that. My wife is a physicist and was in college for what seemed like forever and even though I never went I supported her 100%. Anyway, guys like Goudy are just doing what they do best and that's try to get under people's skin. >:( ;D
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Ron gave them to me. Maybe a PM to him would clear it up. :)
spill the fucking beans stop being a prima donna
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spill the fucking beans stop being a prima donna
Actually it's beans AND rice, so you were half right.
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Jim Magnum
You look awful...using you for prep is like going to a dentist with no teeth...then again you trianed and prepped fat kamali
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Jim Magnum
You look awful...using you for prep is like going to a dentist with no teeth...then again you trianed and prepped fat kamali
So what yor saying is yor mad at me because of how I placed you in the Mr Getbig contest. ;D
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No where i placed was about right.
I never tanned, shaved, dieted etc.
I dont get why you tried to come across as the scarlett pimpernell and create some illussion of mystique about who you are. Pointless
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No where i placed was about right.
I never tanned, shaved, dieted etc.
I dont get why you tried to come across as the scarlett pimpernell and create some illussion of mystique about who you are. Pointless
For some reason you have a hard on for me, but that's OK. I have created no illusion, seems as if you are creating something out of me in yor own mind. You like to "subtly" insult me. Why not be a man and say what is really on yor mind.
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i asked what your expert status was about.
you asked why?
i genuinely wanted to know.
then you started getting pissy...ask ron etc...blah blah blah
TBH i never paid much heed or attention to you nor have i ever spoke with you...i ask one question...you must be on the defensive and assumed i was out to get you like a kid. Then you got pissy and i retaliated.
lets leave it at that
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I dont get why you tried to come across as the scarlett pimpernell
LOL i laughed my ass off at this for some reason.
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i asked what your expert status was about.
you asked why?
i genuinely wanted to know.
then you started getting pissy...ask ron etc...blah blah blah
TBH i never paid much heed or attention to you nor have i ever spoke with you...i ask one question...you must be on the defensive and assumed i was out to get you like a kid. Then you got pissy and i retaliated.
lets leave it at that
You already knew I trained King and you acted as if you knew nothing about me. ::) You were all ready to come down on me and when I didn't fall for it you act as if you are being so sincere. ::) You even hinted that I am a drug dealer in another post. Yor an asshole who has a self inflated sense of self worth. :D
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i hate using getbig in public for 2 reasons.
i will start laughing out loud on my own.
you never know when a sick shot is gonna appear or a pair of tits etc
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you never know when a sick shot is gonna appear or a pair of tits etc
Or worse!
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You already knew I trained King and you acted as if you knew nothing about me. ::) You were all ready to come down on me and when I didn't fall for it you act as if you are being so sincere. ::) You even hinted that I am a drug dealer in another post. Yor an asshole who has a self inflated sense of self worth. :D
i went to mrgetbig.com i seen your name. i seen a slob with fat kamali...i put 2 and 2 together. Also the tet says its you. You dont have to be Miss marple to work that out
you're an asshole with an inflated gut and greasy rat-tache.
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i went to mrgetbig.com i seen your name. i seen a slob with fat kamali...i put 2 and 2 together. Also the tet says its you. You dont have to be Miss marple to work that out
you're an asshole with an inflated gut and greasy rat-tache.
;D :-*
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Or worse!
i was using a public comp other day...i seen a thread title and was afraid to click it LOL
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Time to unfaggotize this thread.
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maybe my name isn't tom.
bwhahah