I'll admit, I use the term "lunatic" very loosely when speaking of him...there is no question that the guy is educated...and being educated is a large part of what being a leader of our country is about...we don't' want an idiotic moron at the helm. After all, one of the best pieces ever written about this comes from the Federalist Papers written by Madison and Hamilton. It was Hamilton who said in Fed 51:
"The minds of the massive is ever changing. Therefore, let us give control to the first class because it is the mass that is subject to mob rule." (I paraphrased this quote as best as I can recall it. I actually have a copy of the Fed papers left over from school, but in no mood to pull it out...this was the jist.)
What we can take from Hamilton's words...in regards to the "First Class" he is not speaking of the wealthy, but rather the educated. During the early years of our country, although many of the educated were indeed wealthy, our country established the first place on earth where educated and wealth were not both requirements to be deemed "First Class."
But the problem with candidates like Obama IMO is they go against the very fabric of what our country is intended to be. Again, I point to Hamilton's word in the same Fed 51:
but what is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself.”
With the socialistic ideology of Obama, too much control is given to the government...too much responsibility is placed on the government. The way I see it. I do not want the government to have more responsibility then necessary over me or my family. I do not want my well being or my families well being to be put in the hands of our government more then need be. This is why this country was founded, so that men could live by their own hand, not by the hand of a controlling big brother.
So you're a conservative who wants small government?
I understand your point of view and to an extent I think you have a valid point.
What I disagree with is the assertion that Obama in some way limits the individuals ability to succeed in this country.
What Obama is doing is merely giving more people a level playing field from which to work from.
Do you understand how badly Bush's economic policies have hurt this country?
The Dollar is not even used anymore as the main currency because it's devalued internationally.
Bush's foreign policy has been a disaster for us..........not only in economic terms but in the lives of our servicemembers who were put in harm's way for nothing.
Bush's former press secretary came clean and exposed the whole administration for what they were.........con artists.
You need to watch Chris Matthew's Hardball sometimes and you'll get a real understanding of what Bush's people did and are continuing to do until they leave office.
The NeoCons are not even conservatives...........
they
SPENT their way through his presidency.
The fact that McCain is even in this presidential race shows just how much the Republican brand is disliked right now.
McCain is more of an independant than a Republican.
He'll still lose to Obama but, he'd have a better shot than any other Republican out there because he is about as different from Bush as you can get.
That's a good thing, BTW.
Look around you man, do you listen to the news? Do you see where the majority of the people in this country are going? The old fashion "American way of life" is long gone. People are just trying to keep thier heads above water. Things have not gone even close to good in the last 8 years here and they are getting worse FAST. Who's threatening the "American way of life?" And really what does that mean now?
The "boy" comment sounded very redneck too.
Most people are worried about surviving financially, whether that fits the "
American way of life" or not.
It's about survival.
"
your boy" is a term of endearment, it's not a racial thing, it's slang.
Yes we do dissagree. I never stopped thinking you were cool either. The majority of the people are not seeing the American way of life that is the point I was making. These are not lazy people who are not trying, they are hard working people who have seen thier jobs dissapear. What I see is a big huge pit that has been dug and its gonna take a long time to get out. When Bush took office the gov was operating under a surpluss, now we are in debt up to our eyeballs with everybody. Our money is worthless and the world thinks (cause we are) we are a bunch of war mongers. Please lets not get started on that huge waste of money and lives that is dragging this place into the gutter.
Did you see the last unemployment #'s? Again not people who are not trying to "help themselves" Not people who are looking for government handouts, which is the defense conserves use. I would hate to be a kid just out of school now entering the job market. The domino effect of all of this will be tramatic to all. Where will it end?
Sorry man but I think Obama stands for the American dream, he just wants many more people to share in it and not by giving it to them, but by giving them a chance.
Now I far from perfect and at times have had racist feelings. The same thoughts of "hey these people just are not trying hard enough" Sometimes on my way to work I drive thru some of the tuffest neighborhoods in Chicago, west side. And I see lots of able body men just kind of hanging out or doing whatever, but they are not at work? Someone could say what a bunch of bums. Well in reality there is no jobs for THEM. They are truely dis-enfranchised, lost and not wanted anywhere. Where do they go? Yes Im sure some are not trying and are trying to take advantage, but you will find that in any neck of the woods.
I was at a stop light on North ave and Austin in Chicago. And sometimes the poor will come up to your car to clean your windshield to try and make some change. This older probally late 40's black guy walked up to the truck in front of me and started to try and spray the guys windsheild. Well the driver went off on the guy calling him names and cussing him out, I could see how irate the driver was he was waving his hands all about. Then the guy walked up to my truck and started to spray the window to clean it. At first I tryed to wave the guy off, but the poor guy was about crying and he said to me "please dont yell at me, your not like the other guy. Please dont hate me, I gotta try. I gotta keep trying" I gave him some change and drove off as he thanked me. This encounter left a mark on me. We are all human. we all need a job and this was the best he could do right now. I dont see a corporation hiring him any time soon, he may not even have an address.
Good that you see how the reality of being human can change your feelings.
I've never had that experience because I live in the suburbs, but I've given to homeless people.
One time when I was in the military, I got some T-Rations from a friend who was a cook and I threw them in my trunk because I knew when I was out on the freeway, I'd eventually come upon some homeless people which is common in (El Paso) Ft. Bliss where I was at the time.
I remember the guy was really disheveled, had a beard, dirty.........probably thought I was a threat, but I motioned him over and gave him about five large tins of food......each of them could feel about ten people or so.
There are going to be people who don't want to work in any city.........but they won't have anything to show for it.
There's no reason to hate people who have no ambition, their quality of life is enough of a punishment.
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