Author Topic: Vince has officially given up on the pretense of steroid testing. (Read 17593 times)

MCWAY · « **Reply #50 on:** February 20, 2011, 11:19:26 AM »

Quote from: joseywaleshhh on February 20, 2011, 08:29:06 AM

Exactly, the top guys stayed the same. where as mentioned earlier Chris Master (and others) shrunk quite a bit.

But, Masters suffered a major injury, a severly torn pec which you can obviously see.

MCWAY · « **Reply #51 on:** February 20, 2011, 11:24:09 AM »

Quote from: littleguns on February 19, 2011, 05:48:14 PM

Most guys come into the fed jakked as they will do anything to appear larger then life. After they settle in and hit the A Game, there is no need to have the jakked physique. People want to hear you on the mike and also wrestle.....

You also have to remember there is no test for GH and Insulin which is why people like Cena are able to get away.....and do you think Vince will truly suspend the "A" players like Batista when he was there???

Also is they have scripts from Dr's...case closed...

He's suspended them before, just like RVD and Jeff Hardy.

joseywaleshhh · « **Reply #52 on:** February 20, 2011, 12:00:59 PM »

RVD was far from a top guy when he was suspended. I think Rey had to drop the ICC to Morrison because of a wellness suspension.

MCWAY · « **Reply #53 on:** February 20, 2011, 01:40:18 PM »

Quote from: joseywaleshhh on February 20, 2011, 12:00:59 PM

RVD was far from a top guy when he was suspended. I think Rey had to drop the ICC to Morrison because of a wellness suspension.

RVD was used to recreate ECW; they gave him TWO world titles, one of which he won at John Cena's expense.

Yet, he had to drop the WWE title to Edge and the ECW World title to Big Show, because of his failed drug test.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #54 on:** February 20, 2011, 01:47:53 PM »

I thought this thread was about "steroid testing?" i highly doubt that was what RVD was suspended for.....4:20 baby !!!!!

joseywaleshhh · « **Reply #55 on:** February 20, 2011, 03:10:44 PM »

No he was. That's why he was so pissed.
I thought it was about recent drug testing though (Mason Ryan). That seems to be the disconect.

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #56 on:** February 20, 2011, 03:52:02 PM »

Quote from: joseywaleshhh on February 20, 2011, 03:10:44 PM

No he was. That's why he was so pissed.
I thought it was about recent drug testing though (Mason Ryan). That seems to be the disconect.

RVD was on the gas ?!? I always assumed it was for weed or some other rec drug. He probably just an enhanced jug of Plasmosis !!

MCWAY · « **Reply #57 on:** February 20, 2011, 03:53:03 PM »

WWE's Wellness Policy isn't just about steroids, especially since those are the drugs that seems to be killing people. It's the painkillers and narcotics.

And, as I've mentioned several times, the roid users ain't just the one with bodybuilder-type physiques. Remember guys like Jake Roberts were taking 'roids. And Umaga got suspended and eventually fired, as well for the policy violation. He was reported to be using anabolics, as well.

Now, we learn that Jeff Hardy has been busted for possessing narcotics AND anabolic steroids. So, is it safe to say he may have been using the latter, himself? Of course, few would peg him as a steroid-user, simply because he wasn't/isn't built like Cena, Batista, or even John Morrison.

Montague · « **Reply #58 on:** February 20, 2011, 04:17:44 PM »

Quote from: The Showstoppa on February 20, 2011, 01:47:53 PM

I thought this thread was about "steroid testing?"

Correct: The Wellness Policy encompasses more than steroids, but this thread is about steroids, specifically, as indicated in the title.
Your post is absolutely correct and accurate.
I'm sure everyone here agrees about that.

littleguns · « **Reply #59 on:** February 21, 2011, 04:32:24 AM »

Quote from: MCWAY on February 20, 2011, 03:53:03 PM

WWE's Wellness Policy isn't just about steroids, especially since those are the drugs that seems to be killing people. It's the painkillers and narcotics.

And, as I've mentioned several times, the roid users ain't just the one with bodybuilder-type physiques. Remember guys like Jake Roberts were taking 'roids. And Umaga got suspended and eventually fired, as well for the policy violation. He was reported to be using anabolics, as well.

Now, we learn that Jeff Hardy has been busted for possessing narcotics AND anabolic steroids. So, is it safe to say he may have been using the latter, himself? Of course, few would peg him as a steroid-user, simply because he wasn't/isn't built like Cena, Batista, or even John Morrison.

Interestingly enough steroids are something they watch but it is really more of the pains and sleep meds. If you look at most of the deaths over the yrs it is really due to these 2 avenues rather than the roids themselves....

Montague · « **Reply #60 on:** February 21, 2011, 04:50:25 AM »

Quote from: littleguns on February 21, 2011, 04:32:24 AM

Interestingly enough steroids are something they watch but it is really more of the pains and sleep meds. If you look at most of the deaths over the yrs it is really due to these 2 avenues rather than the roids themselves....

^^ Now, if only the media & public could catch onto this...

MCWAY · « **Reply #61 on:** February 21, 2011, 09:32:51 AM »

Quote from: Montague on February 20, 2011, 04:17:44 PM

Correct: The Wellness Policy encompasses more than steroids, but this thread is about steroids, specifically, as indicated in the title.
Your post is absolutely correct and accurate.
I'm sure everyone here agrees about that.

But, we've seen people get popped for roids. And, as stated earlier, it ain't just the super-muscular guys as demonstrated by the suspensions of guys like Sabu (and perhaps, RVD), Jeff Hardy, and Umaga.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #62 on:** February 21, 2011, 05:44:08 PM »

Here's an example of how Vince tests his top stars:

Montague · « **Reply #63 on:** February 21, 2011, 06:09:08 PM »

Quote from: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2011, 05:44:08 PM

Here's an example of how Vince tests his top stars:

The "other" Hot Rod.

Playboy · « **Reply #64 on:** February 22, 2011, 04:42:29 AM »

In the late eighties / early ninties Howard Finkle's urine was used to bypass Hogan's tests. It all came out in the 1992 Steroid Trial of McMahon.

MP · « **Reply #65 on:** February 26, 2011, 08:50:02 PM »

With the pounding that these guys take in the ring, is Chris Masters taking any risk by injecting synthol into his pecs?

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #66 on:** February 26, 2011, 09:28:00 PM »

Quote from: Playboy on February 22, 2011, 04:42:29 AM

In the late eighties / early ninties Howard Finkle's urine was used to bypass Hogan's tests. It all came out in the 1992 Steroid Trial of McMahon.

You mean Finkle was natty?

Montague · « **Reply #67 on:** February 27, 2011, 06:50:03 AM »

Quote from: MP on February 26, 2011, 08:50:02 PM

With the pounding that these guys take in the ring, is Chris Masters taking any risk by injecting synthol into his pecs?

That's a good question.
I know one of the divas apparently popped a saline implant years ago - can't remember who, though.
I'm not sure how the synthol could work.

JMO, but I think long-term synthol use is bad for the body.
Plus, frequent use increases the incident for risk...just ask Milos & Valentino.

Playboy · « **Reply #68 on:** February 28, 2011, 04:53:38 AM »

Quote from: Montague on February 27, 2011, 06:50:03 AM

That's a good question.
I know one of the divas apparently popped a saline implant years ago - can't remember who, though.
I'm not sure how the synthol could work.

JMO, but I think long-term synthol use is bad for the body.
Plus, frequent use increases the incident for risk...just ask Milos & Valentino.

I believe it happened to Chyna back in 2000-2001.

Montague · « **Reply #69 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:14:12 AM »

Quote from: Playboy on February 28, 2011, 04:53:38 AM

I believe it happened to Chyna back in 2000-2001.

I believe you're right.

MCWAY · « **Reply #70 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:20:53 AM »

Quote from: MP on February 26, 2011, 08:50:02 PM

With the pounding that these guys take in the ring, is Chris Masters taking any risk by injecting synthol into his pecs?

His pec is torn. How is Synthol going to help him?

Plus, it won't help his in-ring performance, anyway.

Playboy · « **Reply #71 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:51:23 AM »

No, Masters is not taking synthol. It would be ridiculous as it would do absolutely nothing for him in that business. But something is defiantely wrong with his pecs. They look more like female breasts. Like bad gyno or something. Maybe a genetic thing.

Montague · « **Reply #72 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:02:57 AM »

Quote from: Playboy on February 28, 2011, 06:51:23 AM

No, Masters is not taking synthol. It would be ridiculous as it would do absolutely nothing for him in that business. But something is defiantely wrong with his pecs. They look more like female breasts. Like bad gyno or something. Maybe a genetic thing.

Performance-wise, no.
The only pupose(s) the oil serves is cosmetic/appearance.

Lots of "experts" between 99-02 swore that HHH used synthol for site injections.

I honestly don't know how prevalent its use is among today's performers, but I never heard of or saw anyone using it.
Balls Mahoney once talked to me in detail about what he "did" to trim down & get in shape back around 2003.
It was quite the candid conversation - especially considering he'd only met me that afternoon.
$:-\$

MP · « **Reply #73 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:17:24 AM »

Sure looks like synthol.

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #74 on:** February 28, 2011, 08:43:45 AM »

I'm no synthol expert, but, that right pec looks like a torn muscle balled up underneath the skin.

Did he have surgery? Doesn't look like it.