I think you are missing the pt here GH15. I don't dispute your ideas here on body wt vs mass and strength of this female bodybuilder and others. What Jenny proves is that a male or female bodybuilder can NOT only build a great physique without a bunch of drugs, they can do well in contests.
If you have great genetics, you can get ripped and win or place well in your wt class.
If you don't have the genetics, you can still build a decent, lean physique but not do well in shows.
Since few of us are ever going to have a shot at being a pro, doesn't the "Jenny path" make more sense.
gh15 is not missing any point,,im a professional bodybuilder i know what im talking about be suere of that,,
now! i didnt say she is hormonized to the max or even used mmany products along the years,,actually its quite sad if she did use anything to prepare for this competition because this is what a natural with average genetics shoudl look like when starving himself or herself into contest mod ,,SHE LOOK NATURAL YES! is she? NO! natural is someone who never touched hormones and bi products,,im not femiliar with this girl but if you put some pictures of her during the years you will see too that she been to a lot of diff size stages and strength stages and body composition stages that women can not achieve with out the use of substances inorder to eliminate the extra estrogen they have,,women have soft flab tummies even when they are hard naturally they are still soft! and they are never under 8-9% naturally and im talking here about the most manlish looking female..
she uses and used little during her years ,,she looks like a fitness fanatik that really like working out and that usually start from young age in the christian ymca,,but still!!!!! clen t3 many products are used by those females be sure of that! now...i would shut up if she didnt work with palumbo..but you can be sure about one thing...palumbo is drugs and drugs is palumbo,,his all life is one bgi mess of drugs
i ask you fellas to read very carefully what gh15 saysfor it is not to down a competitor i said many times on this thread that she look great and female bodybuilding if at all needs to exist should look more like that...but rest assured!!!! rest assured!! that 115lb ripped and chizeled also demands its products,,in her specific case she DOES look clean but NEVER NOT IN A MILLION YEARS COMPLETELY NATURAL
any one that says they are natural on npc stage or any stage to this matter dont know what they are talking about,,even vince mft chg irs and that kid bil guns are on products sauch as research products and plaumbo fed the kid drugs and you saw the kid look natural via the diet look put under palumbo
please do not argue bodybuilding with me ,,i said here that she look clean and really look like minimal usage of specific prooducts,,this is how it shoudl be but IT IS NOT NATURAL ,,natural is someone who eat eggwhites watermelon and oats then repeat ,,any npc competitor 99% of them been to hormones and bi products
the following are LEGAL SUPP UNCONTROLLED
IGF1
IGF1LR3
NOLVADEX
LETROZOLE
ARIMIDEX
CLENBUTEROL
ALBUTEROL
EPHEDRINE
CAFFEINE
ASPIRIN
T3
MILD DURETICS
PHENTERMINE (ALL OVER ON INTERNET BUT FOR GOOD ONE THE DOC WILL PRESCRIBE AND IT WORKS VERY WELL FOR STARVATIONS WHILE KEEPING ENERGY HIGH)
MANY MORE
friends ,,dont ever doubt what im tellin you here,,the lists of buyers have many many women and boyfriends of those women who compete and who dont compete,,i told you before that if someone look natural it doesnt mean they are size dont mean shit,,it means to the ones who can pack on the size but many use drugs for deveklopment of quality and getting down to the 3-4%,,
in jeniffer case she indeed look clean from the pictures i was asked to analyze,,but i can assure you ..who ever worked with palumbo know drugs is part of the equation..have you ever seen the girl palumbo live with? one of the most hormonized female in bodybuilding history together with kathy vicky and kim
again jenifer looked great and looked clean but no where near true natural ,,,natural will not get under 8% maybe 5-7% on a girl that about to die,,