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Title: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Never1AShow on July 31, 2015, 08:00:32 AM
The O is drawing close, who is going to show up, Big Ramy or Big Hammy?
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Post by: Alucard on July 31, 2015, 11:15:32 AM
Fridge Ramy probably...
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Post by: ritch on July 31, 2015, 11:20:31 AM
Top 5 for sure!
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Post by: AD2100 on July 31, 2015, 12:01:10 PM
greatest of all times 8)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 31, 2015, 01:25:38 PM
Ramy already competed this year and experiences teaches it's extremely difficult to peak again. The Flex Wheeler syndrome , compete in the Spring suffer in the Fall

His best bet seeing he won the Arnold is competing at the Olympia , placing high , collect another big check and pull a Shawn Ray and skip all of next years shows and solely focus on the Olympia.
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 31, 2015, 01:31:19 PM
It just seems he's going to be that guy who just never dials it in on the day of a show.
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Post by: njflex on July 31, 2015, 01:32:50 PM
Ramy already competed this year and experiences teaches it's extremely difficult to peak again. The Flex Wheeler syndrome , compete in the Spring suffer in the Fall

His best bet seeing he won the Arnold is competing at the Olympia , placing high , collect another big check and pull a Shawn Ray and skip all of next years shows and solely focus on the Olympia.
imo,,i lthought shawn ray had an incredible build,but he shoild have did the grand prix's and more ironmans over the yrs and not sat with 2 wins and 1 1st taken away,,,labrada was smaller bber and won many shows,,overall bbing resume'wins'is impressive as well as just peaking once,,,ray as we've seen him now over last decade since retiring was pudgy for the most part ,when he did contest and looked his best there were hundreds of pics to get him by till next mro...
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on July 31, 2015, 01:34:31 PM
It just seems he's going to be that guy who just never dials it in on the day of a show.

Dennis James lol irony?
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Post by: Never1AShow on August 02, 2015, 07:05:00 AM
Ramy already competed this year and experiences teaches it's extremely difficult to peak again. The Flex Wheeler syndrome , compete in the Spring suffer in the Fall

His best bet seeing he won the Arnold is competing at the Olympia , placing high , collect another big check and pull a Shawn Ray and skip all of next years shows and solely focus on the Olympia.

I don't consider what he won being winning the Arnold.  Not THE Arnold, A Arnold.
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Post by: Europe on August 02, 2015, 07:09:33 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)
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Post by: wes on August 02, 2015, 07:29:27 AM
Ramy already competed this year and experiences teaches it's extremely difficult to peak again. The Flex Wheeler syndrome , compete in the Spring suffer in the Fall

His best bet seeing he won the Arnold is competing at the Olympia , placing high , collect another big check and pull a Shawn Ray and skip all of next years shows and solely focus on the Olympia.
Biggest myth there is
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Post by: Irongrip400 on August 02, 2015, 08:01:47 AM
It just seems he's going to be that guy who just never dials it in on the day of a show.


This generations Victor Martinez.
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Post by: gib on August 02, 2015, 08:04:26 AM
I truly think we will have a new O. And I think it will be Ramy.

If they give it to Phil again and he comes in as bad as last time the if will lose all remaining credibility it had.
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Post by: local hero on August 02, 2015, 08:07:55 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)

That sneeky fucker phillepe, always standing over the line....
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Post by: Rascal full on August 02, 2015, 08:14:09 AM
I truly think we will have a new O. And I think it will be Ramy.

If they give it to Phil again and he comes in as bad as last time the if will lose all remaining credibility it had.

I hope you are right because last year was an absolute joke! Phil deserved fourth or fifth at the very best but BS politics swung it his way and it reflects terribly on the sport. I know it is subjective but there is no way if you showed the photos to an outsider, ie somebody unfamiliar with bodybuilding that they would have chosen Phil as the champ.
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Post by: Never1AShow on August 02, 2015, 08:19:05 AM
I hope you are right because last year was an absolute joke! Phil deserved fourth or fifth at the very best but BS politics swung it his way and it reflects terribly on the sport. I know it is subjective but there is no way if you showed the photos to an outsider, ie somebody unfamiliar with bodybuilding that they would have chosen Phil as the champ.

I'd Ramy wants to win, which I totally think he could, he needs to be in shape.  Mostly he comes in looking like a big Ham compared to the others.  Saying Phil was 4th or 5th is ridiculous.

Jeezus, talk about problems you wished you had.  Already being so big all you need to worry about is condition?  Fat waterlogged and bloated is no way to go thru life.
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Post by: Rascal full on August 02, 2015, 08:31:45 AM
I'd Ramy wants to win, which I totally think he could, he needs to be in shape.  Mostly he comes in looking like a big Ham compared to the others.  Saying Phil was 4th or 5th is ridiculous.

Jeezus, talk about problems you wished you had.  Already being so big all you need to worry about is condition?  Fat waterlogged and bloated is no way to go thru life.

2011 Heath he looked great but every year since has been steadily downhill. Have you noticed how blurry his abs have become? He's got what looks like a melted two pack and unless he can reverse that I don't think he should win another Olympia. Four titles is generous enough and politically speaking I think it's time to give the ball to somebody else and let them run with it and freshen up the sport. Ramy is by far the biggest and amazingly he has retained a rock solid six pack. I think part of the reluctance to reward him the title of Mr Olympia is because people are half expecting him to run into serious medical problems similiar to Abbasdour(sp?) this week. These Eqyptians don't fuck about with their dosages and we know it's a dangerous path. Not saying Phil doesn't use heavy duty cycles but he strikes me as more balanced and sensible in that regard. Then you got the not talking English aspect and that's why Ramy hasn't already won. Physique wise he blows Phil out of the water!
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Post by: Papper on August 02, 2015, 09:29:16 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)

Nice looking "abs" on Mr O.

Their skin just look totally unatural and like shit...!
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Post by: doison on August 02, 2015, 09:34:52 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)

Kai's left delt looking totally legit
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: goku on August 02, 2015, 09:38:42 AM
Ramy looking killer going into it, working with Farah still i think?
has helped Kai recapture his top conditioning in the last couple years, reckon Ramy will be top 5 at least and may even get ahead of Wolf/Rhoden for top 3.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/11114176_419775608194524_2083411912646446117_o.jpg)

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/s960x960/11705800_422589994579752_1469280017971896382_o.jpg)
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Post by: Waller on August 02, 2015, 09:54:27 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)

Why have they made them pose like this? Especially Ramy...

(http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/15445720/3/stock-photo-15445720-young-black-girl-with-attitude.jpg)
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Post by: hp31 on August 02, 2015, 10:08:49 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)

Can't wait to read this & get big arms.
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Post by: DroppingPlates on August 02, 2015, 10:10:06 AM
Biggest myth there is

Where are the scientific geniuses when you need them?
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 02, 2015, 01:43:44 PM
Biggest myth there is

I disagree. Flex Wheeler , King of the spring shows in the Fall for the Olympia never looked at as good as the Spring shows. Chris Cormier? Kevin Levrone? How about when Ronnie did the Arnold in 2001 and almost lost the Olympia for it? I mean there are plenty of examples of this
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Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 02, 2015, 01:55:26 PM
I disagree. Flex Wheeler , King of the spring shows in the Fall for the Olympia never looked at as good as the Spring shows. Chris Cormier? Kevin Levrone? How about when Ronnie did the Arnold in 2001 and almost lost the Olympia for it? I mean there are plenty of examples of this

What's the bottom line? Kidneys can't go through a second assault of diuretics ītil next January? Ninjas will pop up if you're about to nail it twice a year?
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 02, 2015, 02:06:17 PM
What's the bottom line? Kidneys can't go through a second assault of diuretics ītil next January? Ninjas will pop up if you're about to nail it twice a year?


Who knows  ??? It's a good question. I guess it's just to hard on the body. And it's hit-or-miss to begin with
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Royal Lion on August 02, 2015, 02:34:24 PM
I think Ramy has as good a chance as anyone to dethrone Phil. He has gained a huge fan base and the "powers to be" seem to be feeding the hype judging from the Flex cover.

Ramy didn't peak for the Arnold.  He was probably 85% and was good enough to win, but he didn't go for it on conditioning. One presumes he and  Farah have it all planned out and he will truly peak for the O. If he nails conditioning and has the size and completeness he displayed at the Arnold, Phil is in trouble.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 02, 2015, 02:36:58 PM
I think Ramy has as good a chance as anyone to dethrone Phil. He has gained a huge fan base and the "powers to be" seem to be feeding the hype judging from the Flex cover.

Ramy didn't peak for the Arnold.  He was probably 85% and was good enough to win, but he didn't go for it on conditioning. One presumes he and  Farah have it all planned out and he will truly peak for the O. If he nails conditioning and has the size and completeness he displayed at the Arnold, Phil is in trouble.

One of the biggest advantages of being the incumbent Mr Olympia is you only have to compete once. And as far as I know Kai hasn't competed this year either right? So I think Ramy might be competing for 3rd , not a bad place.
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Post by: Dave D on August 02, 2015, 03:00:42 PM
I think Ramy has as good a chance as anyone to dethrone Phil. He has gained a huge fan base and the "powers to be" seem to be feeding the hype judging from the Flex cover.

Ramy didn't peak for the Arnold.  He was probably 85% and was good enough to win, but he didn't go for it on conditioning. One presumes he and  Farah have it all planned out and he will truly peak for the O. If he nails conditioning and has the size and completeness he displayed at the Arnold, Phil is in trouble.

Dethroning the champ has only happened a handful of times (Dexter beating  Jay still confuses me, because Dexter always brings the same package). Ramy  on the cover fits in with hyping the show. Many men have been labeled next, and have gotten a Flex cover, far fewer win the O.

Dude has a great build, but they hype these guys to build interest in the show.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 02, 2015, 03:53:24 PM
One of the biggest advantages of being the incumbent Mr Olympia is you only have to compete once. And as far as I know Kai hasn't competed this year either right? So I think Ramy might be competing for 3rd , not a bad place.

I have seen nothing to convince me he won't be Big Hammy.  These pictures above were posted before the Brazil Arnold show he won and he didn't even look as good as those shots.  Gym pictures anyway.  I have zero sympathy for Ramy not being in shape.  He's got plenty of size.
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Post by: Royalty on August 02, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
I think that Ramy can be top 3
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Post by: wes on August 02, 2015, 03:57:26 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)
3 fucking retards!!   ;D
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 02, 2015, 04:04:24 PM
I have seen nothing to convince me he won't be Big Hammy.  These pictures above were posted before the Brazil Arnold show he won and he didn't even look as good as those shots.  Gym pictures anyway.  I have zero sympathy for Ramy not being in shape.  He's got plenty of size.

Great points. He has the size it's the refinement he needs , like everything else it's genetic , you think he can train to have a polished physique like Shawn Ray? Not going to happen
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Post by: Royalty on August 02, 2015, 04:36:39 PM
Great points. He has the size it's the refinement he needs , like everything else it's genetic , you think he can train to have a polished physique like Shawn Ray? Not going to happen

You are comparing a 305lb Big Ramy to a 198lb Shawn Ray. Yes Shawn is slightly leaner than Ramy; but Shawn would not have been able to beat a 260lb Cedric McMillian (like Ramy did in Brazil).
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 02, 2015, 04:49:10 PM
You are comparing a 305lb Big Ramy to a 198lb Shawn Ray. Yes Shawn is slightly leaner than Ramy; but Shawn would not have been able to beat a 260lb Cedric McMillian (like Ramy did in Brazil).

Shawn beat a 285lb Nasser , 275lbs Dillett , 315lb Lou Ferigno , etc , etc , and my point is what Ramy needs Shawn has in spades and had in spades since when he first started training so it leads me to believe this " muscle maturity " polished-look to your physique is genetic and really can't be trained for , which proves my point that he will always finish behind guys who have it so in essence he'll never win the big one.
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Post by: Royalty on August 02, 2015, 04:53:01 PM
Shawn beat a 285lb Nasser , 275lbs Dillett , 315lb Lou Ferigno , etc , etc , and my point is what Ramy needs Shawn has in spades and had in spades since when he first started training so it leads me to believe this " muscle maturity " polished-look to your physique is genetic and really can't be trained for , which proves my point that he will always finish behind guys who have it so in essence he'll never win the big one.

Ramy would've beaten all the guys that you mentioned
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Yamcha on August 03, 2015, 06:19:38 AM
قال انه سوف يأتي في الدهون و المتضخمة.

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Post by: Pet shop boys on August 03, 2015, 06:36:38 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)
3 fucking retards!!   ;D

IS this the new Flex issue ?


The 'Pro tan" on them is hideous specially the one Ramy has on looks like he came out of an old cars transmission



WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 03, 2015, 12:44:58 PM
Ramy would've beaten all the guys that you mentioned

Wider than 9 Heaths.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 03, 2015, 12:53:39 PM
IS this the new Flex issue ?


The 'Pro tan" on them is hideous specially the one Ramy has on looks like he came out of an old cars transmission



WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Pro tan? Guess you're living in the past, most guys take a spray tan.
Ahnuld would look much better with a decent tan.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 03, 2015, 07:04:52 PM
Pro tan? Guess you're living in the past, most guys take a spray tan.
Ahnuld would look much better with a decent tan.


Was being sarcastic hence the quotation marks .... spray, tan? " hmmm  they still look hideous .


Sorry


Wooshhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 03, 2015, 07:06:31 PM
Ramy would've beaten all the guys that you mentioned


He wouldn't beat Nasser , Dillet probably , Lou probably , Shawn? Nope
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Royalty on August 03, 2015, 08:38:37 PM
He wouldn't beat Nasser , Dillet probably , Lou probably , Shawn? Nope

Ramy has a better back & better legs than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Ramy has a smaller waist than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Ramy outweighed those guys by 30lbs each.
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Post by: Never1AShow on August 03, 2015, 09:17:50 PM
Ramy has a better back & better legs than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Ramy has a smaller waist than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Ramy outweighed those guys by 30lbs each.


Ramy has yet to be in top shape.  I disagree with the idea that you can't train for muscle quality.  He is just afraid to lose size.  Strydom did it in 89, but he was too stringy then.  Really the quality is to some extent just leanness and dryness.  He needs to stop training his legs except for leg extensions and hamstring curls.  Go fairly high reps and squeeze.  He has plenty plenty pity of size.  Charles Glass would make him squeeze.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Pet shop boys on August 04, 2015, 03:33:00 AM
Ramy has a better back & better legs than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Ramy has a smaller waist than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Ramy outweighed those guys by 30lbs each.


I wouldn't say Ramy has better legs than Paul.  You need to include calves there too.



Woooshhhhhhh
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 04, 2015, 04:33:57 AM
Ramy has a better back & better legs than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Ramy has a smaller waist than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Ramy outweighed those guys by 30lbs each.


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Ramy has a better back & better legs than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

Better back than Nasser? I don't think so , better legs? NO , bigger sure , better no. Better back than Dillett? sure , better legs? fuck NO

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Ramy has a smaller waist than Nasser & Dillett ever had.

You mean narrower waist

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Ramy outweighed those guys by 30lbs each.

And Nasser outweighed Shawn by 80lbs and still lost , Same with Flex , Nasser was infinitely more harder than Hamy ever was , Dillett is another story
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Post by: Papper on August 04, 2015, 04:55:06 AM
Why have they made them pose like this? Especially Ramy...

(http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/15445720/3/stock-photo-15445720-young-black-girl-with-attitude.jpg)

Like angry women on their period.. 
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Royalty on August 04, 2015, 08:59:42 AM
Better back than Nasser? I don't think so , better legs? NO , bigger sure , better no. Better back than Dillett? sure , better legs? fuck NO

You mean narrower waist

And Nasser outweighed Shawn by 80lbs and still lost , Same with Flex , Nasser was infinitely more harder than Hamy ever was , Dillett is another story

Nuff said



Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Wiggs on August 04, 2015, 09:01:45 AM
Nasser is still better than Ramy...for now.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Royalty on August 04, 2015, 09:03:10 AM
Nasser is still better than Ramy...for now.

I don't know...
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Post by: Disco187 on August 04, 2015, 09:17:40 AM
Dennis James lol irony?



my thoughts the same
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: Never1AShow on August 04, 2015, 07:24:41 PM
Ramy is simply too smooth.  Not even close to Nasser on conditioning.  His stance kinda make him look like he's taking a dump also.
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 04, 2015, 07:32:03 PM
Nuff said





What are you saying? Ramy beat him in this pose? I'll agree with that.
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Post by: cephissus on August 04, 2015, 08:06:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/zoasWdj.jpg)

phil way in front of the line, a usual
Title: Re: 2015 Olympia - Ramy at the O - will he place top three or nay?
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 04, 2015, 08:08:24 PM
Ramy can def be top3

but no way will Manion Weinberger award Ramy the title even if he is the best on stage on the day.

no way is a limited english speaking arab  not based in the usa, going to win the O in 2015
Title: Re: Ramy at the O?
Post by: Papper on August 05, 2015, 12:18:48 AM
Ramy already competed this year and experiences teaches it's extremely difficult to peak again. The Flex Wheeler syndrome , compete in the Spring suffer in the Fall

His best bet seeing he won the Arnold is competing at the Olympia , placing high , collect another big check and pull a Shawn Ray and skip all of next years shows and solely focus on the Olympia.

If he really peaked! :)
Title: Re: Ramy at the O?
Post by: local hero on August 05, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
phil way in front of the line, a usual


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