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California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« on: November 29, 2010, 06:05:06 AM »


California's Real Fantasyland (CA's La-La Budget Situation Alert)
Townhall ^ | 11/29/2010 | Meredith Turney


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In 1955, Walt Disney opened his first amusement park in Anaheim, California. Disneyland has become the most successful amusement park in the world, with an estimated 600 million visitors since it first opened its gates 55 years ago. One of the most popular parts of the park is Fantasyland. Children and adults alike are dazzled by whimsical rides stretching the imagination, envisioning a blissfully perfect world.

Perhaps that’s why fantasy is such an entertaining venture. For just a few moments, we can set aside the troubles and trials of everyday life and visualize things that defy logic or mask the harsh realities of the real world. Unfortunately, California is trying to set up its own Fantasyland outside Disneyland’s walls, passing fantasy-inspired budgets that defy the laws of finance by spending much more than the state can possibly take in. And the Golden State is about to discover that trying to create a fantasy in the real world has devastating consequences.

A recent Los Angeles Times headline says it all: “Californians want it both ways on budget.” A poll conducted by the newspaper found that voters adamantly oppose tax increases to cover the state’s massive $25.4 billion deficit. Instead, they favor cuts to the budget—but not any of the cuts necessary to actually achieve a balanced budget. In fact, voters oppose cuts, and prefer even more spending, on government programs that make up 85% of the state's general budget.

Californians aren’t willing to cut spending on education or healthcare, but they are amenable to cutting the state’s prison system—which makes up just 10% of the overall state budget. Education and healthcare are important, but when it comes right down to it, the ultimate responsibility of government is to execute justice and ensure public safety through keeping criminals off the streets. Californians still living in Fantasyland don’t seem to understand the ramifications of spending all their money on a failing education system and healthcare benefits at the expense of protecting the public.

The current state deficit doesn’t even take into account the pension tsunami that threatens to wipe out taxpayers. California’s pension liability is estimated to be in excess of $500 billion. A recent study by the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research found that local governments’ employment pension plans are underfunded by $200 billion.

California’s Fantasyland is threatening the entire nation now, as the state seeks assistance from the federal government. In 2001, when the state fantasized that its utopia would never end, the legislature voted to double unemployment benefits. Now, with the economy struggling and over 12% of Californians out of work, the state’s unemployment insurance fund is running a $10.3 billion deficit.

In the last two years, the state collected just $9.9 billion in unemployment insurance taxes—but it paid out $20.6 billion in benefits during the same time. California recently had to borrow $8.5 billion from the federal government to pay for the unemployment benefit obligations. If the state doesn’t pay off its loan from Washington, D.C. by 2012, it will owe a $362 million interest payment. That’s an expensive fantasy to finance—and California can’t print Monopoly money to stay afloat.

All three of the major credit rating agencies— Moody's, Standard and Poor's, and Fitch—have given California the lowest credit rating of any state. And investors are increasingly turning away from purchasing California bonds over fears it’s not a prudent investment. If the government can’t solve its deficit, buying the state’s debt is no longer a sound investment. As we’ve seen in Greece, Ireland, Spain and a host other countries, irresponsible spending decimates an economy and can bring a nation to its penniless knees. For some reason, investors believe in pesky things like balanced budgets and returns on investment—things that cannot exist in California’s Fantasyland.

Although Californians still vainly believe they can solve their budget woes with simply cutting waste and fraud, this crisis is the perfect opportunity to look at the bigger picture. During difficult times, it’s appropriate to examine the real purpose of government and what it should or shouldn’t do for the public. Although never pleasant, the pruning process provides greater opportunity for true growth.

Cutting real government programs that have created dependency and fostered an entitlement mentality is critical for trimming the size of government and restoring in the public a sense of independence and self-accomplishment. But such self-examinations and real cuts will necessarily burst the California fantasy of unaccountable, limitless government spending.

California needs to recognize that its real Fantasyland isn’t in Anaheim anymore, it’s in Sacramento.



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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 06:14:04 AM »
haha, my brother bailed on Cali about a year and a half ago.....it's going down the shitter, was once a great state with a booming economy....sad.

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 06:17:38 AM »
haha, my brother bailed on Cali about a year and a half ago.....it's going down the shitter, was once a great state with a booming economy....sad.

Cali is the text book example of left wing politics' natural and predictible outcome.   

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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 06:19:29 AM »
Cali is the text book example of left wing politics' natural and predictible outcome.   

Yep....and all the trends that start in Cali, eventually trickle out to most of the rest of the country.  My brothers wife owned a RE office and a home mortgage company and we had talked for about 5 yrs about the impending RE collapse....especially how the banks just kept lowering their standards for lending....

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 10:16:45 AM »
I'm about to bail on it as well.  I just have to figure out what to do next, work wise.  I may go over seas for a while, maybe do something good for people who need it, I'm not sure yet.  But I'm sick and fucking tired of all the people expecting hand outs out here, it disgusts me.

I'm all for helping people who can't help themselves, but California is the epitome of self entitlement.  I'm sooooo fucking tired of it.

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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 10:21:18 AM »
I'm about to bail on it as well.  I just have to figure out what to do next, work wise.  I may go over seas for a while, maybe do something good for people who need it, I'm not sure yet.  But I'm sick and fucking tired of all the people expecting hand outs out here, it disgusts me.

I'm all for helping people who can't help themselves, but California is the epitome of self entitlement.  I'm sooooo fucking tired of it.


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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 10:30:17 AM »
Cali is the text book example of left wing politics' natural and predictible outcome.   

how many years has Cali had a REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR?

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 10:32:00 AM »
how many years has Cali had a REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR?

 ::)  ::)

Please 240 - stop the spin job. 

The state is run by the leigislature which is overwhelmingly RAT, Arnold is powerless and is a RINO, the state govt employee unions run the state, the regs are codified into law driving out businesses, etc etc. 


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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 10:34:05 AM »
::)  ::)

Please 240 - stop the spin job. 

The state is run by the leigislature which is overwhelmingly RAT, Arnold is powerless and is a RINO, the state govt employee unions run the state, the regs are codified into law driving out businesses, etc etc. 

Are all governors powerless?  Jan Brewer might disagree?

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2010, 10:37:10 AM »
Are all governors powerless?  Jan Brewer might disagree?

 ::)  ::)

Her legislature is ot overrun by the far left goons you seem so in love with. 

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 10:48:24 AM »
Her legislature is ot overrun by the far left goons you seem so in love with. 

OH.  So the people of cali have exactly the elected officials they chose?

Why are you complaining?  because you want something different than the majority of Californians?

I mean, if you don't live in a state, and they have the leadership that they want... what position do we have to poo-poo them?

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 10:51:33 AM »


California's Real Fantasyland (CA's La-La Budget Situation Alert)
Townhall ^ | 11/29/2010 | Meredith Turney


________________________ ________________________ ______________________



In 1955, Walt Disney opened his first amusement park in Anaheim, California. Disneyland has become the most successful amusement park in the world, with an estimated 600 million visitors since it first opened its gates 55 years ago. One of the most popular parts of the park is Fantasyland. Children and adults alike are dazzled by whimsical rides stretching the imagination, envisioning a blissfully perfect world.

Perhaps that’s why fantasy is such an entertaining venture. For just a few moments, we can set aside the troubles and trials of everyday life and visualize things that defy logic or mask the harsh realities of the real world. Unfortunately, California is trying to set up its own Fantasyland outside Disneyland’s walls, passing fantasy-inspired budgets that defy the laws of finance by spending much more than the state can possibly take in. And the Golden State is about to discover that trying to create a fantasy in the real world has devastating consequences.

A recent Los Angeles Times headline says it all: “Californians want it both ways on budget.” A poll conducted by the newspaper found that voters adamantly oppose tax increases to cover the state’s massive $25.4 billion deficit. Instead, they favor cuts to the budget—but not any of the cuts necessary to actually achieve a balanced budget. In fact, voters oppose cuts, and prefer even more spending, on government programs that make up 85% of the state's general budget.

Californians aren’t willing to cut spending on education or healthcare, but they are amenable to cutting the state’s prison system—which makes up just 10% of the overall state budget. Education and healthcare are important, but when it comes right down to it, the ultimate responsibility of government is to execute justice and ensure public safety through keeping criminals off the streets. Californians still living in Fantasyland don’t seem to understand the ramifications of spending all their money on a failing education system and healthcare benefits at the expense of protecting the public.

The current state deficit doesn’t even take into account the pension tsunami that threatens to wipe out taxpayers. California’s pension liability is estimated to be in excess of $500 billion. A recent study by the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research found that local governments’ employment pension plans are underfunded by $200 billion.

California’s Fantasyland is threatening the entire nation now, as the state seeks assistance from the federal government. In 2001, when the state fantasized that its utopia would never end, the legislature voted to double unemployment benefits. Now, with the economy struggling and over 12% of Californians out of work, the state’s unemployment insurance fund is running a $10.3 billion deficit.

In the last two years, the state collected just $9.9 billion in unemployment insurance taxes—but it paid out $20.6 billion in benefits during the same time. California recently had to borrow $8.5 billion from the federal government to pay for the unemployment benefit obligations. If the state doesn’t pay off its loan from Washington, D.C. by 2012, it will owe a $362 million interest payment. That’s an expensive fantasy to finance—and California can’t print Monopoly money to stay afloat.

All three of the major credit rating agencies— Moody's, Standard and Poor's, and Fitch—have given California the lowest credit rating of any state. And investors are increasingly turning away from purchasing California bonds over fears it’s not a prudent investment. If the government can’t solve its deficit, buying the state’s debt is no longer a sound investment. As we’ve seen in Greece, Ireland, Spain and a host other countries, irresponsible spending decimates an economy and can bring a nation to its penniless knees. For some reason, investors believe in pesky things like balanced budgets and returns on investment—things that cannot exist in California’s Fantasyland.

Although Californians still vainly believe they can solve their budget woes with simply cutting waste and fraud, this crisis is the perfect opportunity to look at the bigger picture. During difficult times, it’s appropriate to examine the real purpose of government and what it should or shouldn’t do for the public. Although never pleasant, the pruning process provides greater opportunity for true growth.

Cutting real government programs that have created dependency and fostered an entitlement mentality is critical for trimming the size of government and restoring in the public a sense of independence and self-accomplishment. But such self-examinations and real cuts will necessarily burst the California fantasy of unaccountable, limitless government spending.

California needs to recognize that its real Fantasyland isn’t in Anaheim anymore, it’s in Sacramento.



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the fuck are you talking about. I like cali because of the weather. Im a beast i would be fine in fuckin newerk NJ.. its not that big  of a deal chicken little

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 10:52:37 AM »
OH.  So the people of cali have exactly the elected officials they chose?

Why are you complaining?  because you want something different than the majority of Californians?

I mean, if you don't live in a state, and they have the leadership that they want... what position do we have to poo-poo them?

Because those far left socialist/progressive/liberal/communist failures are going to need a massive bailout shortly from the rest of the nation due to their insane economic policies you obviously did not learn about getting your MBA.  

Cali is the textbook case of horrible economics.  

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 10:54:57 AM »
the fuck are you talking about. I like cali because of the weather. Im a beast i would be fine in fuckin newerk NJ.. its not that big  of a deal chicken little

True insght into the mid of a typical lib.    Ignorant, deluded, oblivious to reality, and forever denying what is plainly obvious to anyone with a clue.

Hey guess what Dr. Spock, good weather doesnt pay the bills.     

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2010, 10:56:06 AM »
True insght into the mid of a typical lib.    Ignorant, deluded, oblivious to reality, and forever denying what is plainly obvious to anyone with a clue.

Hey guess what Dr. Spock, good weather doesnt pay the bills.    
Um ok... Cali still rocks... its awesome for me..

it will always be awesome for me.  Your state is alright for you. so drink and be merry you fucking  government hypercondriac

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2010, 11:00:33 AM »
Um ok... Cali still rocks... its awesome for me..

it will always be awesome for me.  Your state is alright for you. so drink and be merry you fucking  government hypercondriac

Yeah its awesome for you because your stupid ass is not working yet and paying 50% in taxes for the worthless scumbags you feign such tolerance and compassion for. 

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2010, 11:01:02 AM »
Because those far left socialist/progressive/liberal/communist failures are going to need a massive bailout shortly from the rest of the nation

So why should we help them?  Refuse it.  Now that the repubs own the House, it should be pretty easy to defeat any add'l state bailouts.

What's the problem?  Please tell me the repubs aren't going to rubber-stamp the silly continued spending? ????

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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2010, 11:02:31 AM »
Yeah its awesome for you because your stupid ass is not working yet and paying 50% in taxes for the worthless scumbags you feign such tolerance and compassion for. 


ohhhhhhh thats why thanks i didnt know ::)

Get a fuckin life

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2010, 11:02:49 AM »
So why should we help them?  Refuse it.  Now that the repubs own the House, it should be pretty easy to defeat any add'l state bailouts.

What's the problem?  Please tell me the repubs aren't going to rubber-stamp the silly continued spending? ????

I sure as hell hope not.  

I would not bailout anyone.  

Tough shit.  Bailouts are for pussies.    

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2010, 11:04:10 AM »
ohhhhhhh thats why thanks i didnt know ::)

Get a fuckin life

You seem a little testy today.   

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« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2010, 11:07:46 AM »
I sure as hell hope not. 
I would no bailout anyone. 
Tough shit.  Bailouts are for pussies.   

Agreed.

but what do you think the newly elected republicans in the House are going to do?

They can STOP all these state bailouts.

Would you like to bet me $1 on it?  I'm willing to bet $1 that nothing changes.  i'm willing to bet it'll be a whole lotta talk, then back to "well, we can't just let em fail..." and Rand paul and all those new house tea party repubs will cough up federal dollars for more state bailouts.

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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2010, 11:10:57 AM »
Agreed.

but what do you think the newly elected republicans in the House are going to do?

They can STOP all these state bailouts.

Would you like to bet me $1 on it?  I'm willing to bet $1 that nothing changes.  i'm willing to bet it'll be a whole lotta talk, then back to "well, we can't just let em fail..." and Rand paul and all those new house tea party repubs will cough up federal dollars for more state bailouts.

I think they don't get a bailout. 

They dont deserve it, and no one does. 

Fuck, I spent the weekend licking envelopes, sending faxes and emails trying to drum up new business etc etc. 

If these lazy worthless parasites in the govt spend themselves into poverty - FFFUUUCCCKKK TTTHHEEEMMM -   SSTTAARRVVEEE

I have zero sympathy for the do-nothing parasites in govt.   

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2010, 07:59:45 PM »
Hey fuck you guys.

We elected democrats to EVERY SINGLE STATE OFFICE a few weks back! And remember we also voted to allow for the state budget to be passed on a simple majority instead of the 2/3rs... . so now the conservatives can't block anything and deprive our hard working illegals of handouts, build any more prisons to contain criminals or obstruct public union demands!

BLANK CHECK BITCHES!!!

Oh, and the rest of you are going to pay for it all. Don't kid yourselves, if the government bailed out GM, you know damn well it's going to bail out CA.

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2010, 08:22:43 PM »


California's Real Fantasyland (CA's La-La Budget Situation Alert)
Townhall ^ | 11/29/2010 | Meredith Turney

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333 - why do you start threads with long articles and then add your own idiotic statement

have I not agreed with you about public pensions and similar things

CA is a HUGE economy and has bigger booms and bigger busts but it's a great place to live (which is why so many people live here) and if you have the means then it's even better. 

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Re: California's Real Fantasyland is in Sacramento
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2010, 08:32:28 PM »
Interesting how the greatest economy in this country belongs to the nationally renown Welfare State.  ::)

The CA economy is a myth. Make taxes on par with the rest of the country and CA is insolvent in under a year.