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Title: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 20, 2017, 01:43:29 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-cut-aid-u-n-members-over-171947909.html

“Let them vote against us. We'll save a lot. We don't care,"  😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Conker on December 20, 2017, 01:50:09 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-cut-aid-u-n-members-over-171947909.html

“Let them vote against us. We'll save a lot. We don't care,"  😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

blackmailing poor nations to side with you. great!  as always the US a beacon of class and integrity  ::)
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Conker on December 20, 2017, 02:03:55 PM
cheaper than bombing them

lol that's true  :D
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: illuminati on December 20, 2017, 03:10:03 PM
cheaper than bombing them


And Saves Lives
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 20, 2017, 03:22:14 PM
Good.  Fuck the UN.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Yamcha on December 20, 2017, 05:32:57 PM
blackmailing poor nations to side with you. great!  as always the US a beacon of class and integrity  ::)

We will not surrender this nation, or its people, to the false song of globalism.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 20, 2017, 06:56:58 PM
Good.  Fuck the UN.
This 100%
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: mazrim on December 21, 2017, 09:08:59 AM
blackmailing poor nations to side with you. great!  as always the US a beacon of class and integrity  ::)
What a moron. Essentially just posted "Stupid, lousy US not going to give us their money anymore! No class whatsoever!" Talk about contradicting yourself in one post.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: mazrim on December 21, 2017, 09:14:10 AM
“Strong, sovereign nations let diverse countries with different values, different cultures and different dreams not just coexist but work side by side on the basis of mutual respect,” Donald Trump said in his first speech to the UN general assembly


The UN vote will illustrate extent of the USA's retreat from global leadership.
Leadership is doing what is right despite the other corrupt/loser countries.

Pretty weird that the UN isn't respecting us. Good quote from Trump.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 09:59:54 AM
Leadership is doing what is right despite the other corrupt/loser countries.

Pretty weird that the UN isn't respecting us. Good quote from Trump.

I agree.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Yamcha on December 21, 2017, 11:12:43 AM
“Strong, sovereign nations let diverse countries with different values, different cultures and different dreams not just coexist but work side by side on the basis of mutual respect,” Donald Trump said in his first speech to the UN general assembly


The UN vote will illustrate extent of the USA's retreat from global leadership.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Straw Man on December 21, 2017, 11:21:13 AM
LOL @ Trumptards thinking that ANYTHING Trump does must de facto be "the right thing"

Trump has just show us yet again that he's the biggest crybaby on the planet

Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2017, 11:26:23 AM
Libs love the UN for some reason.  F the UN!  worthless POS needs to be disbanded. 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Conker on December 21, 2017, 11:39:01 AM
What a moron. Essentially just posted "Stupid, lousy US not going to give us their money anymore! No class whatsoever!" Talk about contradicting yourself in one post.

typical idiot incapable of logic and reason.

you give to charity (aid to poor nations) because you have genuine sympathy for their plight, not to bribe them into agreeing with your every position on whatever random issue...

of course you'd need to have an ounce of class yourself before you'd be able to comprehend that.  8)
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Conker on December 21, 2017, 12:17:28 PM
forget the aid (I know that is hard for this sites population)
only 8 (eight) countries voted as the US demanded 
it may not matter to the domestic (US) audience but it suggests the global power market is open for business as the US withdraws
Mr Trump has become the best foreign policy tool Russia, N.Korea, China .....would wish for and so far by their own standards they have used it efficently

i think you're reading too much into this vote. pretty much the entire world has always been publicly against israel's occupation of land outside it's 1967 border. let alone now reconising part of that territory as israel's capital!

no one actually does what's morally right though for fear of upsetting the US . in reality israel should be economically cut off from the rest of the world in the same way apartheid SA was until israel starts complying with international law.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 21, 2017, 12:26:23 PM
Imternational law...enforced by the US.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: James on December 21, 2017, 12:34:58 PM
Trump is doing great!


Zechariah 12:8:

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem."
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 21, 2017, 12:39:29 PM
Trump is doing great!


Zechariah 12:8:

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem."

Good post, but that's verse 9, not 8.    ;D
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: James on December 21, 2017, 12:41:56 PM
Good post, but that's verse 9, not 8.    ;D

I was close  :)
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 12:48:11 PM
I was close  :)

Watch your step around El Profeta.  He knows his stuff.   :)
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: James on December 21, 2017, 12:54:27 PM
Watch your step around El Profeta.  He knows his stuff.   :)

(https://i1.wp.com/gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif?ssl=1)
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 21, 2017, 01:01:13 PM
(https://i1.wp.com/gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/leaving-now-grandpa-simpsons.gif?ssl=1)

 ;D
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Conker on December 21, 2017, 01:04:26 PM
Given the predictability of the opposition you are right however issuing petulent threats exposed the paucity of US strategic thinking.

not really. it's just the us doing what the us does. belligerence and bullying
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Straw Man on December 21, 2017, 01:39:56 PM
Trump is doing great!


Zechariah 12:8:

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem."

Who gives a shit

US foreign policy is not based on fairy tales
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Soul Crusher on December 21, 2017, 01:53:27 PM
Who gives a shit

US foreign policy is not based on fairy tales

Under Obama it was under Sharia
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Straw Man on December 21, 2017, 01:56:42 PM
Under Obama it was under Sharia

No it wasn't but I have no doubt that you truly believe that

All Trump is doing is making the US irrelevant as a world leader

Something I'm sure Trumptards probably think is a good idea

Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 21, 2017, 06:27:19 PM
Yes, must be part of the UN in order to be the worlds policeman. ::)
Fuck the UN
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: illuminati on December 21, 2017, 06:29:39 PM
No it wasn't but I have no doubt that you truly believe that

All Trump is doing is making the US irrelevant as a world leader

Something I'm sure Trumptards probably think is a good idea




A World Leader in What ?
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 21, 2017, 06:36:10 PM

A World Leader in What ?
By world leader he means spending all our money to protect the ungrateful.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 21, 2017, 07:34:46 PM
1. Why does it matter? I mean, why do we need to step in and have Israel's back on this, they're more than capable of handling their own.

2. Which brings me to the second part. They've been occupying since they won the 1967 war. Seems to me they've won fair and square.

But why they can't just give east Jerusalem to the Palestinians so they can have a capital too is beyond me. To quote Rodney King and Reginald Denny, can't we all just get along?  :-\
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: jude2 on December 21, 2017, 07:38:21 PM
LOL @ Trumptards thinking that ANYTHING Trump does must de facto be "the right thing"

Trump has just show us yet again that he's the biggest crybaby on the planet


If he does what he says again, he has the biggest balls, right or not.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: illuminati on December 21, 2017, 11:24:42 PM
By world leader he means spending all our money to protect the ungrateful.

Ha - Your likely correct

As he hasn't replied to the question

And what's wrong with America just being America & looking after American's
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Yamcha on December 22, 2017, 04:08:35 AM
Ha - Your likely correct

As he hasn't replied to the question

And what's wrong with America just being America & looking after American's

that sounds like an "America First" policy...


where have I heard that before?
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 06:09:52 AM
Under Obama it was under Sharia

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/11/17/JS113357128-AFP-jews-trump_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqq_lm7_dnM04RfBCyGqlpSLI5KGiu1i3hFBw8p_JkDnI.jpg?imwidth=1400)

A picture taken on November 10, 2016 shows T-shirts bearing montaged images of US President Barack Obama (R) wearing a kaffiyeh and president-elect Donald Trump (C) dressed as a Hasidic Jew for sale in a souvenir shop in Jerusalem's Old City CREDIT: AHMAD GHARABLI /AFP
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 06:31:19 AM
But why they can't just give east Jerusalem to the Palestinians so they can have a capital too is beyond me.

I don't know.  I'm not Israeli, but wouldn't that be to Israelis like it would be to Americans giving up half of Washington DC to the Mexicans?
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 22, 2017, 09:09:25 AM
I don't know.  I'm not Israeli, but wouldn't that be to Israelis like it would be to Americans giving up half of Washington DC to the Mexicans?

Not really. Palestinians are already there and share the country with Israel. It's a mess, and they just need to learn to live together.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 22, 2017, 09:38:16 AM
Not really. Palestinians are already there and share the country with Israel. It's a mess, and they just need to learn to live together.
Bwahahahaaaa!!!!  :D
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 09:54:26 AM
Not really. Palestinians are already there and share the country with Israel. It's a mess, and they just need to learn to live together.

Okay, DC might have been a bad one.  What about half of California and half of Texas?
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 10:14:57 AM
Was listening to a discussion about this overwhelming rebuke by the UN.  Turns out more than 50 of the countries who voted in favor are either Muslim or heavily Muslim.  (I haven't verified this.)  Also said there was something like 70 or more abstentions and no-shows?  When you do the actual math and factor in all countries, it was pretty much a tie.  If all of that is true, just more evidence of how dishonest the media is and how they constantly try and influence public opinion. 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 10:29:10 AM
Was listening to a discussion about this overwhelming rebuke by the UN.  Turns out more than 50 of the countries who voted in favor are either Muslim or heavily Muslim.  (I haven't verified this.)  Also said there was something like 70 or more abstentions and no-shows?  When you do the actual math and factor in all countries, it was pretty much a tie.  If all of that is true, just more evidence of how dishonest the media is and how they constantly try and influence public opinion.  

Possibly:

Mr Trump had earlier threatened to cut “billions” of aid dollars to nations which backed the UN’s motion.

Here are the countries that did so:

A: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan

B: Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi

C: Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Chad, Chile, China, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Cyprus, Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea), Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica

E: Ecuador, Egypt, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia

F: Finland, France

G: Gabon, Gambia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guinea, Guyana

I: Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy

J: Japan, Jordan

K: Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan

L: Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg

M: Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique

N: Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, guy, Nigeria, Norway

O: Oman

P: Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Portugal

Q: Qatar

R: Republic of Korea (South Korea), Russia

S: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Somalia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria

T: Tajikistan, Thailand, The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Tunisia, Turkey

U: United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Uzbekistan

V: Venezuela, Vietnam

Y: Yemen

Z: Zimbabwe

Member states that voted against the resolution:

G: Guatemala

H: Honduras

I: Israel

M: Marshall Islands, Micronesia

N: Nauru

P: Palau

T: Togo

U: United States

Member states that abstained:

A: Antigua-Barbuda, Argentina, Australia

B: Bahamas, Benin, Bhutan, Bosnia-Herzegovina

C: Cameroon, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic

D: Dominican Republic

E: Equatorial Guinea

F: Fiji

H: Haiti, Hungary

J: Jamaica

K: Kiribati

L: Latvia, Lesotho

M:  Malawi, Mexico

P: Panama, Paraguay, Philippines, Poland

R: Romania, Rwanda

S: Solomon Islands, South Sudan

T: Trinidad-Tobago, Tuvalu

U: Uganda

V: Vanuatu

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/un-jerusalem-vote-latest-updates-list-countries-voted-against-us-israel-capital-nikki-haley-general-a8124136.html


Below are the countries with the largest Muslim populations as of 2010 according to this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110209094904/http://www.pewforum.org/The-Future-of-the-Global-Muslim-Population.aspx
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 10:59:55 AM
Possibly:

Mr Trump had earlier threatened to cut “billions” of aid dollars to nations which backed the UN’s motion.

Here are the countries that did so:

A: Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andorra, Angola, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan

B: Bahrain, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belgium, Belize, Bolivia, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Bulgaria, Burkina Faso, Burundi

C: Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Chad, Chile, China, Comoros, Congo, Costa Rica, Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Cyprus, Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea), Denmark, Djibouti, Dominica

E: Ecuador, Egypt, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia

F: Finland, France

G: Gabon, Gambia, Germany, Ghana, Greece, Grenada, Guinea, Guyana

I: Iceland, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy

J: Japan, Jordan

K: Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan

L: Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg

M: Madagascar, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Monaco, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique

N: Namibia, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, guy, Nigeria, Norway

O: Oman

P: Pakistan, Papua New Guinea, Peru, Portugal

Q: Qatar

R: Republic of Korea (South Korea), Russia

S: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Somalia, South Africa, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Suriname, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria

T: Tajikistan, Thailand, The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Tunisia, Turkey

U: United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom, United Republic of Tanzania, Uruguay, Uzbekistan

V: Venezuela, Vietnam

Y: Yemen

Z: Zimbabwe

Member states that voted against the resolution:

G: Guatemala

H: Honduras

I: Israel

M: Marshall Islands, Micronesia

N: Nauru

P: Palau

T: Togo

U: United States

Member states that abstained:

A: Antigua-Barbuda, Argentina, Australia

B: Bahamas, Benin, Bhutan, Bosnia-Herzegovina

C: Cameroon, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic

D: Dominican Republic

E: Equatorial Guinea

F: Fiji

H: Haiti, Hungary

J: Jamaica

K: Kiribati

L: Latvia, Lesotho

M:  Malawi, Mexico

P: Panama, Paraguay, Philippines, Poland

R: Romania, Rwanda

S: Solomon Islands, South Sudan

T: Trinidad-Tobago, Tuvalu

U: Uganda

V: Vanuatu

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/un-jerusalem-vote-latest-updates-list-countries-voted-against-us-israel-capital-nikki-haley-general-a8124136.html


Below are the countries with the largest Muslim populations as of 2010 according to this:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110209094904/http://www.pewforum.org/The-Future-of-the-Global-Muslim-Population.aspx

Thanks.  I think there were a number of no-shows too? 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 11:09:00 AM
Thanks.  I think there were a number of no-shows too? 

That's right, 21 countries.  Don't have the list of those. 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 11:17:08 AM
That's right, 21 countries.  Don't have the list of those. 

So 35 abstentions and 21 no-shows, for a total of 56 countries that essentially voted no, plus 9 countries that actually voted no. 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 11:27:15 AM
Yeah, even the MSM reports that Palestinians were disappointed.

"Thursday's vote, while a victory for the Palestinians, was significantly lower than its supporters had hoped for, with many forecasting at least 150 "yes" votes. It is noteworthy that 21 countries were absent."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-jerusalem-vote-general-assembly/
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 22, 2017, 11:48:47 AM
Trump is doing great!


Zechariah 12:8:

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem."

Praise of Trump AND a bible quote in the same sentence... hilarious  ;D
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 22, 2017, 11:50:51 AM
If he does what he says again, he has the biggest balls, right or not.

I don't know if it really takes big balls to make a decision that you have no chance of having to pay the consequences for personally. Bush going into Iraq didn't put him at risk one iota. Same with Trump moving the capital.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 11:54:05 AM
I don't know if it really takes big balls to make a decision that you have no chance of having to pay the consequences for personally. Bush going into Iraq didn't put him at risk one iota. Same with Trump moving the capital.


The past three presidents said they would do it, but didn't have to stones to pull the trigger. 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 22, 2017, 11:59:38 AM
I have no dog in the hunt on this issue. I don't care where the capital is.  As CNN even pointed out, its ludicrous for countries with horrific human rights violations like North Korea and Iran, complaining about the decision to move the capital. The UN is a busted coalition according to many and does little to help for all it's bluster. Having said that, I've also heard foreign policy experts, National Security advisors say the money we send to many of those countries the Donald threatened to stop, isn't just about charity, its for their help in global security in one way or another. Now I'm just a guy who likes to watch action movies and go to the gym. While I could pretend to state categorically that Trumps statement about those voting against us would be cut off is good or bad, but honestly, I'd be talking out my ass.. much like I suspect Trump was..
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Straw Man on December 22, 2017, 12:14:37 PM
If he does what he says again, he has the biggest balls, right or not.

perfect example of why Trumptards are morons



Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 12:16:27 PM
UN's a buncha hypocrites who don't care about human rights.

Gays in Israel:

(https://972static-rsvpteamltd1.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads//2015/06/Pride-flags.jpg)


Gays in Muslim countries:

(http://www.progressivestoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/isis-gays.jpg)
 (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/14/13/2B5C28E200000578-0-image-a-2_1439555792851.jpg)

Yep.  I've posted pictures of what they do to gays in the Radical Islam thread.  Sickos. 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 12:17:52 PM
Yep.  I've posted pictures of what they do to gays in the Radical Islam thread.  Sickos. 

Was gonna modify my post and accidentally deleted it.  Glad you quoted me.   ;D
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 22, 2017, 12:18:59 PM
The past three presidents said they would do it, but didn't have to stones to pull the trigger. 

Stones, or they weighed the information once they got into office and were educated on the situation and decided it wasn't such a good idea.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 12:26:41 PM
Was gonna modify my post and accidentally deleted it.  Glad you quoted me.   ;D

I got your six.   :)
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 12:27:31 PM
I got your six.   :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 12:28:00 PM
Stones, or they weighed the information once they got into office and were educated on the situation and decided it wasn't such a good idea.

Or they were too afraid of the political backlash and didn't have the stones to make a tough decision.  Sniveling cowards.  The whole lot of them.  It took a maverick to come in and say "screw the establishment."  
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 12:37:15 PM
"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."  - Barack Obama, first foreign policy speech, 2008

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-06-05/obama-delivers-first-foreign-policy-speech/2460312
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 12:40:10 PM
"Let me be clear. Israel's security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable. The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper," Senator Obama said.

"But any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognised and defensible borders.

"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided."  - Barack Obama, first foreign policy speech, 2008

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-06-05/obama-delivers-first-foreign-policy-speech/2460312

From the mouth of the worst president of my lifetime.  Good riddance.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: LittleJ on December 22, 2017, 12:42:05 PM
From the mouth of the worst president(because I dont like black people with power) of my lifetime.  Good riddance.

Fixed
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 12:45:02 PM
Fixed

 ::) 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 12:45:49 PM
104th Congress Public Law 45
From the U.S. Government Printing Office

JERUSALEM EMBASSY ACT OF 1995

"Since 1950, the city of Jerusalem has been the capital of the State of Israel."

"The United States conducts official meetings and other business in the city of Jerusalem in de facto recognition of its status as the capital of Israel."

"Jerusalem should be recognized as the capital of the State of Israel; and the United States Embassy in Israel should be established in Jerusalem no later than May 31, 1999."

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-104publ45/html/PLAW-104publ45.htm
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: loco on December 22, 2017, 12:54:42 PM
From the mouth of the worst president of my lifetime.  Good riddance.

Another promise Obama made but didn't keep, along with the promise to close Guantanamo.  
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 22, 2017, 12:56:41 PM
Another promise Obama made but didn't keep, along with the promise to close Guantanamo.  

And the promise to hold healthcare hearings in public, to post all bills online for at least 24 hours for comment before signing them, to freeze discretionary spending, etc., etc., etc. 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: mazrim on December 22, 2017, 02:41:32 PM
Fixed
And another openly racist individual who's thoughts are consumed with whether a person is black or white....
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 22, 2017, 08:21:14 PM
And the promise to hold healthcare hearings in public, to post all bills online for at least 24 hours for comment before signing them, to freeze discretionary spending, etc., etc., etc. 

Okay, need clarity on the rules here. When I post up a statement from Trkump on what he will do when elected that he didn't do or backpedaled on, Coach quickly reminds me those were campaign promises and not to be considered lies. Campaign promises according to Coach are all lies and should never be expected to be followed up on. Now you are posting things Obama said prior to being President. I just need to know if we are going to be on the same page or not going forward. Are campaign promises considered lies if not followed up on? I got a list waiting in the wings if so
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 23, 2017, 09:25:03 AM
Okay, need clarity on the rules here. When I post up a statement from Trkump on what he will do when elected that he didn't do or backpedaled on, Coach quickly reminds me those were campaign promises and not to be considered lies. Campaign promises according to Coach are all lies and should never be expected to be followed up on. Now you are posting things Obama said prior to being President. I just need to know if we are going to be on the same page or not going forward. Are campaign promises considered lies if not followed up on? I got a list waiting in the wings if so
Do you have a comparable list or one that only supports your views of how, in your PTSD head, Killary would have been a better president?
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 23, 2017, 12:25:15 PM
Do you have a comparable list or one that only supports your views of how, in your PTSD head, Killary would have been a better president?

just need to know the rules here. Seems some only follow them when convenient 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 23, 2017, 02:00:15 PM
just need to know the rules here. Seems some only follow them when convenient 
What are the rules in stating ones opinions?
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: B_B_C on December 23, 2017, 04:36:59 PM
just need to know the rules here. Seems some only follow them when convenient 

    "The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.

    Unfortunately this Electric Monk had developed a fault, and had started to believe all kinds of things, more or less at random. It was even beginning to believe things they’d have difficulty believing in Salt Lake City. It had never heard of Salt Lake City, of course. Nor had it ever heard of a quingigillion, which was roughly the number of miles between this valley and the Great Salt Lake of Utah."

From Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency by Douglas Adams
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Agnostic007 on December 23, 2017, 05:27:28 PM
What are the rules in stating ones opinions?


It's all good. I'll just remember the next time someone says "Hey,you can't say Trump lied to us about X, that was during the campaign, those don't count." That they really do
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 23, 2017, 06:57:37 PM

It's all good. I'll just remember the next time someone says "Hey,you can't say Trump lied to us about X, that was during the campaign, those don't count." That they really do

You do that! >:(
But the rules state you must also include a lie from a democrat from during a campaign.  :)
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 25, 2017, 10:49:28 AM
Okay, need clarity on the rules here. When I post up a statement from Trkump on what he will do when elected that he didn't do or backpedaled on, Coach quickly reminds me those were campaign promises and not to be considered lies. Campaign promises according to Coach are all lies and should never be expected to be followed up on. Now you are posting things Obama said prior to being President. I just need to know if we are going to be on the same page or not going forward. Are campaign promises considered lies if not followed up on? I got a list waiting in the wings if so

I posted campaign promises and promises made after Obama was elected POTUS, including his promise to freeze discretionary spending during a State of the Union Address.  There is also the "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" promises, that he knew were false at the time he made them.  His repeated lies about traditional marriage.  His claim he couldn't do immigration reform then trying to do so through EO.  If there is one thing I can say about Obama, he was incredibly dishonest.   

I don't believe promises that a candidate makes that he or she doesn't intend to keep are ok.  Those are lies too.  Campaign promises that simply don't happen because they are outside the candidate's control, or when things on the ground change making it unwise to keep them, are not lies IMO.     
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: chaos on December 25, 2017, 01:26:07 PM
you mean you can't think of any your self ?
I'm not the one crying about it.
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Dos Equis on December 25, 2017, 01:56:42 PM
Nikki Haley negotiates $285M cut in ‘bloated’ UN budget
By Chris Perez December 25, 2017

UN Ambassador Nikki Haley announced Sunday that the United States negotiated a $285 million cut in the United Nations’ “bloated” budget for next year.

“The inefficiency and overspending of the United Nations are well known,” Haley said in a statement from the US Mission. “We will no longer let the generosity of the American people be taken advantage of or remain unchecked.”

Haley added that the “historic reduction” in spending is a step in the right direction and that the US would make many other moves toward a more efficient and accountable UN.

“In addition to these significant cost savings, we reduced the UN’s bloated management and support functions, bolstered support for key US priorities throughout the world and instilled more discipline and accountability throughout the UN system,” the statement said.

The new deal for the 2018-2019 fiscal year is $285 million less than the world body’s staggering $5.4 billion budget for fiscal year 2016-2017.

The ambassador went on to say that she hopes to help make even more reductions in the UN’s budget in the years to come.

Haley’s announcement came just days after she slammed the UN for “singling out” the United States and voting on a resolution to oppose President Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

The former South Carolina governor went on the warpath last week over the UN’s resolution — and said the US would be “taking names,” as a result.

“The United States will remember this day in which it was singled out in this assembly for the very act of exercising our right as a sovereign nation,” Haley told member nations ahead of their vote.

“We will remember it when, once again, we are called up to make the world’s largest contribution to the UN, and we will remember it when many countries come calling on us to pay even more and to use our influence for their benefit.”

Out of the 193-member General Assembly, 128 countries voted in favor of declaring Trump’s recognition of the city as the Jewish state’s capital “null and void.”

Guatemala, meanwhile, became the first nation to follow Trump’s lead when it announced Sunday that it would be moving its embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

President Jimmy Morales said he made the decision after discussions with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Guatemala was one of the nine nations that voted against the UN’s resolution on Jerusalem.

The country has long had ties with Israel, especially in security matters.

No other country has chosen to move its embassy to Jerusalem since Trump’s decision, although the Czech Republic has said it is considering it.

https://nypost.com/2017/12/25/nikki-haley-negotiates-285m-cut-in-bloated-un-budget/
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: SCRUBS on December 25, 2017, 03:20:16 PM
I guess they will have to get used to not having the cuck in charge anymore. No more getting bags of money handed to to you then getting to blow your load on his face while he apologies for the USA...... 
Title: Re: Trump threatens to cut aid to U.N. members over Jerusalem vote
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on December 25, 2017, 04:42:42 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-cut-aid-u-n-members-over-171947909.html

“Let them vote against us. We'll save a lot. We don't care,"  😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣


Ironically, I agree with Trump.  These countries take billions from us and then we get fucked in the ass.  Gays in Israel are free....gays in Muslim countries get thrown off buildings.