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2017 IFBB Kuwait Pro Men's Bodybuilding 212 Results
1. Ahman Ashkanani (Kuwait)
2. Jose Raymond (USA)
3. Shaun Clarita (USA)
4. Ahmed Talat Elsadany (Egypt)
5. Ricardo Correia (United Kingdom)
6. Bola Ojex (Nigeria)
7. Ronny Rockel (Germany)
8. Ahmed Moustafa (Egypt)
9. Manuel Canadillas (Spain)
10. Mahmut Irmak (Turkey)
11. Steven Benthin (Germany)
12. Zoran Kolevski (Macedonia)
13. Milan Sadek (Czech)
14. Ahman Al Sa'Afeen (Jordan)
2017 IFBB Kuwait Pro Men's Physique Results
1. Abdullah Alsaeed (Kuwait)
2. Mohammed Buqambar (Kuwait)
3. Abdulaziz Abdullah Al Mohandes (Saudi Arabia)
4. Sanadal Sanad (Jordan)
5. Omar Alkfalag (Kuwait)
6. Yousef Al Sabhan (Kuwait)
7. Hussin Almutawa (Kuwait)
8. Mohammad Alhabbabi (Kuwait)
9. Ali Maraqfi (Kuwait)
10. Sayed Hussain Mazedi (Kuwait)
11. Jodalyn Babaran (Philippines)
12. Florian Wolf (Germany)
*** Abdullah Ghanim Alsaeed won his Pro card and also won the IFBB Pro League show at the same night
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2017 IFBB Kuwait Pro Men's Bodybuilding 212 Results
1. Ahman Ashkanani (Kuwait)
2. Jose Raymond (USA)
3. Shaun Clarita (USA)
4. Ahmed Talat Elsadany (Egypt)
5. Ricardo Correia (United Kingdom)
6. Bola Ojex (Nigeria)
7. Ronny Rockel (Germany)
8. Ahmed Moustafa (Egypt)
9. Manuel Canadillas (Spain)
10. Mahmut Irmak (Turkey)
11. Steven Benthin (Germany)
12. Zoran Kolevski (Macedonia)
13. Milan Sadek (Czech)
14. Ahman Al Sa'Afeen (Jordan)
2017 IFBB Kuwait Pro Men's Physique Results
1. Abdullah Alsaeed (Kuwait)
2. Mohammed Buqambar (Kuwait)
3. Abdulaziz Abdullah Al Mohandes (Saudi Arabia)
4. Sanadal Sanad (Jordan)
5. Omar Alkfalag (Kuwait)
6. Yousef Al Sabhan (Kuwait)
7. Hussin Almutawa (Kuwait)
8. Mohammad Alhabbabi (Kuwait)
9. Ali Maraqfi (Kuwait)
10. Sayed Hussain Mazedi (Kuwait)
11. Jodalyn Babaran (Philippines)
12. Florian Wolf (Germany)
*** Abdullah Ghanim Alsaeed won his Pro card and also won the IFBB Pro League show at the same night
30 years ago you could virtually remember the names of every pro bodybuilder, there were only about 40 competing in the world.
Its fucking laughable how many there are these days...
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Didn't realize Ronnie Rockel was:
1. Alive
2. Under 212
3. Still competing
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30 years ago you could virtually remember the names of every pro bodybuilder, there were only about 40 competing in the world.
Yes, 30 years ago there were only 40 competing - today there are hundreds around the world. Amazing.
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Yes, 30 years ago there were only 40 competing - today there are hundreds around the world. Amazing.
No, watered down the quality.
To be a pro bodybuilder used to mean something.
Why not just have open shows where anyone can enter, no pros or amateurs, just competitors.
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30 years ago you could virtually remember the names of every pro bodybuilder, there were only about 40 competing in the world.
Its fucking laughable how many there are these days...
Whys it laughable, the sport has grown and become more popular, thus more bodybuilders.
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Whys it laughable, the sport has grown and become more popular, thus more bodybuilders.
I agree with everything but the "sport" part.
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Shit's a business, not a charity. They give out more pro cards and they cycle more guys through the amateurs. Amatuers see all these guys getting pro cards and think they'll have a shot and before you know it their first show they place 10th and 2 guys get cards .. Next show he's 7th without even improving much and 2 mlre guys above him are gone so next show he's top 4.. Before you know it, its his turn because everybody better than him already has a pro card.
Then you end up with 20new pros a year paying their $200 a year and never gonna win a dime back.... Not to mention the 150 new girls every year with pro cards.
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No matter how many pros I only look at the top 5 anyway. I usually don't pay much attention to the other classes either but that's just me.
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No, watered down the quality.
To be a pro bodybuilder used to mean something.
Why not just have open shows where anyone can enter, no pros or amateurs, just competitors.
damn straight it's watered down quality, the battles guys like Matt mendalhall too name but 1 had just too try MAKE it as a pro (something matt never achieved and he had a very good physique) Chris, Paul D, Mike M, Flex, Kevin and others from the early 90s they all had fantastic physiques and nothing was a given...times have changed in favour of a saturation of Sub par pros rather than a emphasis on the QUALITY of the amateur physiques making the hard earned transition too the Pro Ranks.
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So if Matt Mendenhall we're competing today he would be a pro bodybuilder
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Didn't realize Ronnie Rockel was:
1. Alive
2. Under 212
3. Still competing
;D ;D lol me to
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So if Matt Mendenhall we're competing today he would be a pro bodybuilder
your only as relevant too the era you belong too, point is the physiques imo (and many others) were of a higher quality and standard of the era in question in relation too the number of pros that have been punched out of the production lines these days, Flex, Kevin, Dillett, Cormier and others...within the 1st few years as Pros...were already Top 6 in the Mr Olympia or better,
how many new pros in the last 5 years alone in this era can match their generation of the early 1990s as in results of their placings in the Mr Olympia competition..
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Kuwait is coming up as a bb generation. This is kinda cool and very unforseen. Cool Rocky Rockwell is hiding in the shadows somewhere. Please win something you have the tools degenerate east german bastard :D
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your only as relevant too the era you belong too, point is the physiques imo (and many others) were of a higher quality and standard of the era in question in relation too the number of pros that have been punched out of the production lines these days, Flex, Kevin, Dillett, Cormier and others...within the 1st few years as Pros...were already Top 6 in the Mr Olympia or better,
how many new pros in the last 5 years alone in this era can match their generation of the early 1990s as in results of their placings in the Mr Olympia competition..
Agreed
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your only as relevant too the era you belong too, point is the physiques imo (and many others) were of a higher quality and standard of the era in question in relation too the number of pros that have been punched out of the production lines these days, Flex, Kevin, Dillett, Cormier and others...within the 1st few years as Pros...were already Top 6 in the Mr Olympia or better,
how many new pros in the last 5 years alone in this era can match their generation of the early 1990s as in results of their placings in the Mr Olympia competition..
thats a very good point, back in the 80s and 90s guys would get their pro card and be right up there at the Olympia or NOC the next year.
this guy won the overall at last years NPC nationals.
How would he do at the O?
(http://9xs3zt-tdcswhd55xrz.lagrangesystems.net/UMJghiY4X//contests/1967-npc-national-championships/2016/53208-shaun-vasquez/x53208-shaun-vasquez-13_final.jpg.pagespeed.ic.87qzAeSZuM.jpg)
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No, watered down the quality. To be a pro bodybuilder used to mean something. Why not just have open shows where anyone can enter, no pros or amateurs, just competitors.
Because then you can have close to 1,000 competitors at a contest. Can take 3-4 days. You need to be an IFBB Pro to compete in a pro show, and it means something. But yes, it is easier in certain divisions to become a pro, but then, you won't make it into the top 15 ever if you do not improve, and get in the easy way...
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Because then you can have close to 1,000 competitors at a contest. Can take 3-4 days. You need to be an IFBB Pro to compete in a pro show, and it means something. But yes, it is easier in certain divisions to become a pro, but then, you won't make it into the top 15 ever if you do not improve, and get in the easy way...
But there are guys now competing in pro shows that are certainly not at pro level.
Winning a pro card in the 80s and 90s meant you were top ten Olympia material already, some took a year out, some just jumped right in.
Look at Labrada, Gaspari, Haney, Levrone, Paris they turned pro and then jumped right int the top tier.
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Kuwait is coming up as a bb generation. This is kinda cool and very unforseen. Cool Rocky Rockwell is hiding in the shadows somewhere. Please win something you have the tools degenerate east german bastard :D
this was his last contest, he "retired"...
no more room sessions :D
(https://s2-ssl.dmcdn.net/GJLvI.jpg)
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thats a very good point, back in the 80s and 90s guys would get their pro card and be right up there at the Olympia or NOC the next year.
this guy won the overall at last years NPC nationals.
How would he do at the O?
(http://9xs3zt-tdcswhd55xrz.lagrangesystems.net/UMJghiY4X//contests/1967-npc-national-championships/2016/53208-shaun-vasquez/x53208-shaun-vasquez-13_final.jpg.pagespeed.ic.87qzAeSZuM.jpg)
Your first sentence held even within the past decade - consider Evan Centopani won the 2007 Nationals and won the New York Pro in 2009 - probably around 19 months later or something. And he potentially could have won earlier than that. Phil Heath turned pro in 2005, and won the Colorado Pro in 2006, beating seasoned veterans and stunning Darrem Charles [who, in hindsight, looked like a fair 2nd place finisher, but probably I had the thought process I did which was that name recognition alone should have vaulted him to 1st place.]
So it's safe to say that there have been some high level bodybuilders who have won Nationals in the past decade - guys who could have maybe placed 12th in the Olympia fresh off the boat.
But Chris Bumstead winning the North America's was strange - as amazing as he looks, he just didn't have the size I would think a pro bodybuilder needs, obviously something that he himself recognized, hence the division change to Classic Bodybuilding.
As for the 212 competitor who won last year's Nationals - the overall no less - that is quite surprising to me.
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Your first sentence held even within the past decade - consider Evan Centopani won the 2007 Nationals and won the New York Pro in 2009 - probably around 19 months later or something. And he potentially could have won earlier than that. Phil Heath turned pro in 2005, and won the Colorado Pro in 2006, beating seasoned veterans and stunning Darrem Charles [who, in hindsight, looked like a fair 2nd place finisher, but probably I had the thought process I did which was that name recognition alone should have vaulted him to 1st place.]
So it's safe to say that there have been some high level bodybuilders who have won Nationals in the past decade - guys who could have maybe placed 12th in the Olympia fresh off the boat.
But Chris Bumstead winning the North America's was strange - as amazing as he looks, he just didn't have the size I would think a pro bodybuilder needs, obviously something that he himself recognized, hence the division change to Classic Bodybuilding.
As for the 212 competitor who won last year's Nationals - the overall no less - that is quite surprising to me.
this was the super heavyweight and light heavyweight winners
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com//contests/1967-npc-national-championships/2016/23726-dorian-haywood/23726-dorian-haywood-7_final.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com//contests/1967-npc-national-championships/2016/61006-derik-oslan/61006-derik-oslan-13_final.jpg)
and this was the middle , light heavy and heavy from 1987, 30 years ago
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=416464.0;attach=458806;image)
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thats a very good point, back in the 80s and 90s guys would get their pro card and be right up there at the Olympia or NOC the next year.
this guy won the overall at last years NPC nationals.
How would he do at the O?
(http://9xs3zt-tdcswhd55xrz.lagrangesystems.net/UMJghiY4X//contests/1967-npc-national-championships/2016/53208-shaun-vasquez/x53208-shaun-vasquez-13_final.jpg.pagespeed.ic.87qzAeSZuM.jpg)
Top 3? 👺
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Top 3? 👺
is this you or your bf? 👺
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Difference is the completeness difference then to now,bbers were complete head to toe,Shawn Ray,as an amateur,Dennis Newman they looked lliked pros at the nationals USA,,Francios,Titus,lightheavy like Cottrell went pro won first 3 pro shows out of the gate.today more classes,more pros less complete quality.
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this was his last contest, he "retired"...
no more room sessions :D
(https://s2-ssl.dmcdn.net/GJLvI.jpg)
Still got it. He can win something. Go to Kuwait, live free, free drugs, free food. Stay for 6 months?
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this was the super heavyweight and light heavyweight winners
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com//contests/1967-npc-national-championships/2016/23726-dorian-haywood/23726-dorian-haywood-7_final.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com//contests/1967-npc-national-championships/2016/61006-derik-oslan/61006-derik-oslan-13_final.jpg)
and this was the middle , light heavy and heavy from 1987, 30 years ago
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=416464.0;attach=458806;image)
I would ask you if you are a broker of fake news, but I know better. :o :-X
I can't recall a Nationals that weak - I guess this giving out to pro cards per class + the Master's 40, 50, 60, etc, is finally starting to have an impact, and not surprisingly so...it's great news for the NPC and IFBB, collecting all those pro card fees, but it's bad for the "Sport" overall.
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Pretty sure 5th - Ricardo Correia is portuguese.
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Only the top 5 come back for the night show. The rest are beheaded.
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Pretty sure 5th - Ricardo Correia is portuguese.
he won his pro card winning the overall British champs