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Here it is - The 1980 MR. OLYMPIA judging sheet!!!
« on: February 18, 2008, 02:17:54 PM »



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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 02:58:14 PM »
The bigger story is where did the 20k prize money go???.Makes you ask the question about Arnold getting married in Sydney,with the promoter of 1980 Olympia as his best man.

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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 03:18:18 PM »
The bigger story is where did the 20k prize money go???.Makes you ask the question about Arnold getting married in Sydney,with the promoter of 1980 Olympia as his best man.

Arnold got married in Hyannis , Massachusetts .

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 03:30:03 PM »
The bigger story is where did the 20k prize money go???.Makes you ask the question about Arnold getting married in Sydney,with the promoter of 1980 Olympia as his best man.

And Franco wasn't the promoter. Damn, you don't know shit about "The Man".

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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 03:32:46 PM »
Also had a ceremony in Sydney best man was Paul Graham IFBB promoter and Oceania President for life.Like the 80 Olympia was to Arnold as was the Presidents job for Paul a Gift.

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2008, 03:37:00 PM »
Also had a ceremony in Sydney best man was Paul Graham IFBB promoter and Oceania President for life.Like the 80 Olympia was to Arnold as was the Presidents job for Paul a Gift.

He didn't get married until 1986 , where are you getting your info?

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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2008, 03:46:57 PM »
Sorry Arnold was Pauls best man.check story-  htpp://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20574932-10389,00.html. Google Paul Graham Body Builder.

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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2008, 03:48:17 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2008, 03:51:33 PM »
I love the 1980 but I don't think it was as controversial as most make it out to be. Dickerson was very complete but looked to be under 200 lbs standing next to Arnold. Mentzer came in his best condition but at the expense of his chest. I am a big Mentzer fan but no way he won any front or side mandatories with his chest as thin as it was. The only guy in the line up who matched Arnold upper body wise was Coe but he had no abs. Zane was to thin due to an injury shoulder I believe. Arnold lost some size but had his best conditioning. Not the best version of Arnold we've seen but enough on that day IMO.

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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2008, 04:04:10 PM »
I can finally rest after 18 years. Thank you.

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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2008, 04:13:50 PM »
I love the 1980 but I don't think it was as controversial as most make it out to be. Dickerson was very complete but looked to be under 200 lbs standing next to Arnold. Mentzer came in his best condition but at the expense of his chest. I am a big Mentzer fan but no way he won any front or side mandatories with his chest as thin as it was. The only guy in the line up who matched Arnold upper body wise was Coe but he had no abs. Zane was to thin due to an injury shoulder I believe. Arnold lost some size but had his best conditioning. Not the best version of Arnold we've seen but enough on that day IMO.

Zane punctured his urethra after sitting in a poolside lounge chair that collapsed. He nearly bled to death...but continued to train for the following several weeks and came in under weight and drawn.

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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2008, 04:16:45 PM »
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Zane punctured his urethra after sitting in a poolside lounge chair that collapsed. He nearly bled to death...but continued to train for the following several weeks and came in under weight and drawn.
Nice find Moosejay your right it was Arnold who had the shoulder injury.

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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2008, 04:20:44 PM »
Nice find Moosejay your right it was Arnold who had the shoulder injury.

Thanks Phenom.

Yes, Arnold said he'd taken a cortisone injection for a shoulder injury before leaving states for Australia, and that is why he was retaining water.

He went on to aver that he stayed in his hotel room, wore a rubber suit, turned on the oven for a sauna -like effect and went through his posing routine inumerable times to wring the excess fluid from his muscles.

I remember reading this in the 1980 M&F contest report of the Olympia, and, at 17, not reallly believing it for some reason.

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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2008, 04:21:46 PM »
At the pre judging Arnold kept turning in the opposite direction to the other competitors he was warned not to keep doing it.But he would just smile and laugh.Dude knew it was a lock.He knew if he entered he would win.

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2008, 04:22:59 PM »



thanks for the info, can you get us the final score and stats of the 1956 World Series too? hahahaa, what a fucckin' tool. ;D

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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2008, 04:28:04 PM »

Saw your avatar and thought I'd share this pic with ya.

I had lunch with Mr. T just a few months back and took this pic.

(Something weird happened to the pic when I uploaded it. It smashed my eyes closed :o)

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« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2008, 04:29:14 PM »
you're a big thick dude man.

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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2008, 04:40:35 PM »
thanks for the info, can you get us the final score and stats of the 1956 World Series too? hahahaa, what a fucckin' tool. ;D

why is he a tool, squad? I thought those score sheets were pretty cool to see....

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« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2008, 04:53:39 PM »
Thanks Bro.

Where was this pic taken>???

And I think you could take T in the Octagon-think about it.

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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2008, 05:09:55 PM »
why is he a tool, squad? I thought those score sheets were pretty cool to see....

I agree, I have NEVER seen these score sheets before-for any pro BBing show, much less one of the most contested shows in history. Very cool.

Remember, Arnold was booed heavily when he was announced the winner and was very upset with the crowd reaction (booing) to him winning.

Paul Graham should NEVER had allowed Arnold to enter the show, never.

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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2008, 05:13:17 PM »
holy shit, breaking news..................WW 2 is over, Japan has surrendered. :D

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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2008, 05:22:08 PM »
Paul needed Arnold there so he didn't have to pay the 20k prize money.Payback is payback.

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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2008, 05:22:42 PM »
According to USA laws, once aliens are convicted of a felony in USA you cannot get visas to visit there. That was the way it was years ago. In spite of that law, Paul Graham, who spent a couple of years in jail in America after being arrested in Honolulu in early 1969 for exporting stolen cars to Australia, still managed to attend Arnold's wedding and visited America on more than one occasion back in those days.

There were people in Australia who wanted to remove Paul from his president's position in the Australian IFBB. They apparently alerted the authorities when Paul was going to the USA but Paul got in, anyway. I mean, why let a silly law prevent you from being at your mate's wedding? Paul has held his position with the IFBB but merely changed the organization when challenged. Talk about corruption in the IFBB. It appears that both Paul and Ben have had life appointments.

I have posted my story at Ironage of Arnold living with Paul, Bob Bruce, and Ken Moran way back in 1968-69 in Los Angeles. Ken had to vacate the USA because he told us he had an accident while driving on the wrong side of the road. Somehow he miraculously managed to obtain a near new red Shelby Mustang which was the envy of everyone in Vancouver, BC, who saw it. Ken was from New Zealand and he boasted of living with Arnold but few believed him.

I was visiting Honolulu on my way home from a holiday in Sydney in January/February, 1969. My ex's relatives gave us a clipping showing a cartoon of an Australian muscleman holding up a vehicle. The story said that Lord Paul, Mr Australia had been arrested by the FBI for dealing in stolen vehicles and international commerce or something like that. In other words, Paul was nabbed for stealing cars in LA and sending them back to Australia to sell. American cars were worth a fortune in Australia even though they had to be converted to right hand drive. Paul never won the Mr Australia title but was 2nd I think. He won two trophies in a Southern Mr Universe promoted by his mate Bob Bruce in Surfers Paradise. Paul won best chest and best arms but lost to Frank Columbera. It always amused me to hear the wrestling announcer claim that Lord Paul had won the Mr Universe title twice. Talk about misinformation and an exaggeration. He would get wrestlers to jump from a high ladder onto his abdomen and be unhurt. Later in a match any mug could floor Paul with a single 'punch' to the gut! That was show business.

I saw Arnold and Dave Draper there at Mits Gym. I never put the Moran association together until later when it all fit. It appears that Paul took the rap for the others and anyone else involved owed Paul big time. Am I saying that Moran and the others in that house helped Paul with his enterprise? I have no idea. What does anyone else think? It is one thing to know but another to have evidence. I do know that Ken took that expensive Shelby Mustang back to New Zealand and I haven't heard from Ken since. Good luck to him. Did Arnold owe Paul? Who knows? However, it is not known if Arnold took his prize money home after the 80 Olympia. Paul told me that he lost a lot of money promoting that contest. The IFBB fee was about $20,000, plus judges and officials had to be brought to Australia and accommodated. Then you have the competitors. It is very expensive to fly to Sydney from elsewhere. Whether Paul saved some money re Arnold's generosity only those two know. I don't like speculating on matters of fact that I cannot establish. The suspicions have persisted.

I was at the Coogee Gym in Sydney in 1972 when a big Paul Graham arrived in his blue, 'visiting' uniform. Shortly after he arrived he obtained a small gym and a vehicle from Billy Moore, a local gym owner who eventually owned then sold City Gym in downtown Sydney. I heard that Billy used to import fancy American cars and sell them for a profit. Am I suggesting that Billy and Paul were business partners? Hell, no, I have no idea at all about any of that. It appears that Paul has mates everywhere and has done very well for himself. He spent time in jail but came out a bigger bodybuilder and seemed to have a good business sense. He was elected as Australian IFBB President in a meeting in Melbourne in 1972 supervised by Frank Burwash. Paul has never looked back since. He owns a couple of expensive houses in Sydney last time I heard and has a gym in Coogee. The original Coogee Gym was closed by Barry Hart decades ago. Robert Nailon acquired the equipment and moved the gym to Randwick. Robert sold that gym long ago, too. Both gyms were rather small. However, the beach side gym was a great place to go to train. After your workout you could go for a walk along the beach to check the shape or go for a swim and or a run. Those were the good old days in Sydney.

Have a look at those scores from the 80 Olympia. What made the contest a mess was that many of the judges did not separate the men during the rounds. Look at how many competitors received a score of 20 in each round. If a judge gave more than one 20 in a round he wasn't doing his job. Oh, that was easy enough to do because when the guys came out and looked great you could award them 20. However, the next guy might have looked better but you couldn't give him more. Oscar State did nothing about this and so all the judges who gave duplicate 20 scores were virtually eliminating themselves from the judging process. Both Brendan Ryan and Peter McCarthy separated them in each round. If you replace Brendan's scores with Peter's then Arnold would have been ahead after the three rounds. Arnold won the posedown 5 to 2 so some judges had changed their minds at the finals the next day. Brendan had Dickerson third after Zane so that helped Arnold a lot. I haven't got Peter's scores with me but I worked out that Arnold would have lost by a point had Peter judged instead of Brendan. What is obvious is the contest was very close.

Someone said Arnold had the biggest upper body there. Yes, his chest was huge as were his arms. However, the biggest guy, muscle for muscle was Danny Padilla and he wasn't compared even once in the prejudging. When I looked at the photos from the judging he clearly had the best overall physique there. A pity he was so short because he was completely overlooked that year and perhaps cheated the next year as well.

I bought a gym at West Ryde in 1971 and we expanded several times and now are located at Meadowbank in a 20,000 square foot facility. I met Bill Howard in 1980 and he had some photos of his World Class Gym Equipment. I foolishly began an equipment business after retiring as a high school teacher. Those designs seemed solid and easy to make. I designed my own equipment but Bill gave me a start. I have gone way beyond what I made in those days beginning in 1981. I curse the day I decided to open a factory and make equipment instead of buying what we needed. I think the cost of gym equipment was exorbitant because it had to be imported and duty and taxes paid. These extra fees made the equipment cost about twice what Americans paid for it. You don't save anything if you have to design, test, and modify equipment. I built equipment for a few gyms in Australia but stopped making equipment for other gyms in 1985. Since then I build things only for my own gym. I also occasionally modify equipment made by others if things break down or improvements are needed.

Here is a Nautilus machine I altered to make it cable drive instead of dirty chains that stretched and occasionally broke. This was a huge project that took quite a while to complete. Machine works and feels much better now and should be maintenance free. Some muscle head snapped the three 3/8 bolts on the cam! I replaced those with 1/2 inch bolts. Plus, I put some heavier plates on the machine at the bottom of the weight stack which is now about 340 pounds.

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« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2008, 06:01:08 PM »
why is he a tool, squad? I thought those score sheets were pretty cool to see....

Because if it has nothing to do with scandalous men* to state how good they look, score sheets do not appeal to him.


*see Derek Anthony; Kai Greene; Rodney St. Cloud, etc.