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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Topic started by: YearsGoneBy on March 03, 2006, 04:29:06 PM
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Discounting titles, who do you prefer? I'm not sure if they ever competed against each other before.
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Discounting titles, who do you prefer? I'm not sure if they ever competed against each other before.
They have quite different body shape. But...I prefer Nubret anytime, fuller rounder muscle bellies, flawless pecs and shoulders cum a super taper. Zane is like a classic statue, no disrespect to him just a matter of personal preference.
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Nubret
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I've spent some time with both Nubret and Zane in their prime and would have to state that Nubret would probably have beaten Zane in an unprejudiced contest.
But both of them were great in their day.
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Nubret definitely had the better front upper body, but when it comes to legs/calves combo and back Zane probably had the edge.
Both had great lines and balance, tough to call overall.
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Nubret. This shouldn't even be seriously considered. It isn't even close.
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Nubret. This shouldn't even be seriously considered. It isn't even close.
I agree.
Frank may have had a slight better lower body that Nubret....but the overall physique was Nubret over Zane.
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Zane was smaller but his conditioning at the time was nearly unrivaled.
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Zane was smaller but his conditioning at the time was nearly unrivaled.
yes i agree.
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Bannout at his peak was probably the ideal look.
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Yep
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I'll take Mentzer.
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Nubret was only behind Arnold and Sergio
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Nubret for sure but they both were great in their prime. Zane is about the same as me, except I have better legs.....:) Definitly not big by todays standards. Nubret had alot of muscle and was much bigger and one of the alltime best.
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nubret had a great upper body but weak legs
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(http://digilander.libero.it/sergenubret/sn94.jpg)
tight waist, good V taper, and an asthetic flow. Traits hard to come by these days.
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Discounting titles, who do you prefer? I'm not sure if they ever competed against each other before.
Preferences aside, I can't see Nubret beating Zane at his best in a bodybuilding contest.
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Both had unreal builds Zane takes it with better wheels and conditoning but I give Nubret the nod for upper bodymass and overall muscle belly fullness
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Years ago when I was a teenager, Nubret spent a week training in Toronto at the gym I trained at. He spent HOURS doing set after set after set after set of the same exercise (ie. single side laterals) with ridiculously light weights (ie. 70 pound barbell curl). I witnessed Bruce Page, a bodybuilding author and historian who wrote for Ironman, tape Nubrets arm after one of these marathon sessions at 21 1/4 " pumped. Zane never ever approached that size but had a much more complete package.
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Definitely Serge. Someone put up that pic of him next to Flex Wheeler in a comparison shot-crop. I used to have that as my background pic. The man had an unbelieveable physique for back in the day.
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Zane, maybe a better back, for sure better legs, for sure better conditioning. I don't think Nubret ever competed much in the IFBB besides the Olympia. He won his titles in the NABBA and the WBBG. I think Nubret also looked better relaxed than flexing which I count against him. I think Zane was for sure the better bodybuilder
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judge for yourselves! :o
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Only one has a victory over Schwarzenegger though
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Only one has a victory over Schwarzenegger though
Was it Frank Zane, Chet Yorton, or Sergio?
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Was it Frank Zane, Chet Yorton, or Sergio?
:)
1968 Mr. Universe
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Man he looks good in that pic. More so than in his Olympia days.
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Nubret all the way!
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8)
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both look absolutely great.
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surge!
zane had him on conditioning and a slight edge on legs. just personal preference surge all the way!
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Nubret was behind only Oliva & Schwarzenegger, and looked the part of a BB, unlike Zane. Both with excellent balance but Nubret was way ahead in size AND shape, even had the edge in aesthetics IMO.
Nubret's still the closest I've seen to a statue; the complete aesthetic package. Bannout & Zane were very good but not in the same sentence. Even today there aren't many that are close.
For aesthetics I'd also put Birdsong over Zane and Bannout.
Here's some good info on Nubret:
http://ironage.us/yabbse/index.php?topic=13814.0
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Nubret wins hands down, he had much more fullness and mass than Zane yet he also had a smaller waist.
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Nubret was awesome!
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Nubret was always more juiced up than Frank Zane. If both were totally natural bodybuilders then Nubret would not be in the same league as Zane.
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Nubret was always more juiced up than Frank Zane.
That's a whiny, unfounded accusation. Aesthetics with size, no one can touch Nubret.
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Why would anybody think Zane was better than Nubret? To me it isn't even close.
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Here's a fantastic picture of Frank.
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serge ha d a better chest and better traps than frank . better midsection even . frank has better legs but not that great legs on either man . zane a bit more symmetrical .
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frank a better poser . .
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frank a better poser . .
I would have to agree. Frank Zane was really for me the ideal Olympian Greek ideal. Serge was also an outstanding Bodybuilder but never displayed it like Zane.
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I would have to agree. Frank Zane was really for me the ideal Olympian Greek ideal. Serge was also an outstanding Bodybuilder but never displayed it like Zane.
Arguably, Serge had the better structure but Frank (again, arguably) mastered the art of displaying his structure better. It's apples and apples.
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Arguably, Serge had the better structure but Frank (again, arguably) mastered the art of displaying his structure better. It's apples and apples.
yes both great champions and each had a great..no outstanding physique.
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yes both great champions and each had a great..no outstanding physique.
YEAH ,,,ZANE IS ONE OF MY FAV'S LIKE TO FAVOR MY BUILD TO HIS PHILOSPHY,,
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YEAH ,,,ZANE IS ONE OF MY FAV'S LIKE TO FAVOR MY BUILD TO HIS PHILOSPHY,,
yes you have developed a very good proportioned physique. very Balanced. size is not everything. It should be symmetrical.
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yes you have developed a very good proportioned physique. very Balanced. size is not everything. It should be symmetrical.
thank you kind words i love 80/90 bbing have still boxes of mags from that era ....
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thank you kind words i love 80/90 bbing have still boxes of mags from that era ....
I will not say the Guys today are not "Champions" but when i think of a Frank Zane or Bob Paris..really the difference is like day and night.
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I will not say the Guys today are not "Champions" but when i think of a Frank Zane or Bob Paris..really the difference is like day and night.
i agree there are some great builds out there but older champs and look were all different not same as today cycle,roll the dice see what developes...they trained back then hard,had unique builds..most are blocks now no shape or no flow,,,
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Zane and Nubret (and others of that era) had a harmony of body parts. Muscles of one area seemed to flow and match other parts of their body, in that harmony. Each BB'er had individual characteristics that set them apart from another.
Not a question of Zane vs Nubret, but which type appeals most to you.
Present Pro's resemble cartoon characters, which I think the magazines, book and video producers are forcing on the general BB'ing public. When your a teenager, you might believe it's cool to look like them. As one matures, being honest with yourself, the current Pro's do look a bit ridiculous. Their health conditions are borderline ER room stat. Only my view but; Judging all this from many personal viewing of them, in the gym and out.
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Zane and Nubret (and others of that era) had a harmony of body parts. Muscles of one area seemed to flow and match other parts of their body, in that harmony. Each BB'er had individual characteristics that set them apart from another.
Not a question of Zane vs Nubret, but which type appeals most to you.
Present Pro's resemble cartoon characters, which I think the magazines, book and video producers are forcing on the general BB'ing public. When your a teenager, you might believe it's cool to look like them. As one matures, being honest with yourself, the current Pro's do look a bit ridiculous. Their health conditions are borderline ER room stat. Only my view but; Judging all this from many personal viewing of them, in the gym and out.
I agree 100%. As you get older you are more realistic and Health and well being is more important.
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Zane had no buisness winning the Olympia,ever his muscles were just too dam small.Ripped!!but small.Nubret anyday!!!
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Zane had no buisness winning the Olympia,ever his muscles were just too dam small.Ripped!!but small.Nubret anyday!!!
Frank Zane was a great champion. Frank zane was a great poser too and displayed his outstanding Olympian Physique to itīs fullest. I have wrote before i liked serge nubret too and was also an outstanding bodybuilder. no...for me Zane was unique ..
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Zane was the better package - more complete and a better poser.
Nubret was incredible, but in fewer poses.
I agree that Zane was just... unique.
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For aesthetics I'd also put Birdsong over Zane and Bannout.
I can accept that Nubret could be considered more aesthetic than Zane and Bannout, but Birdsong? Wow, sorry, but I couldn't disagree more.
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nubret is now dead and frank is a senior citizen .or close . oh time flies.
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nubret is now dead and frank is a senior citizen .or close . oh time flies.
frank as he looks today
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serge n was said to lose a little off his waistline every year as he got older.