What is your view of the poor?

[Matt C]

You never cease to fucking amaze me!!!!!!!

I bet you would fold up like a bitch if you had a tough day.

I think the difference between me and you Tim, is that I actually HAVE been through hard times and I actually HAVE been poor...not that there is anyone in Canada who I would personally consider poor.  I spent 4.5 years in the army and met all sorts of people, people who YOU would have nothing to do with.  And since graduating from university at age 23 I have been a landlord, and trust me, the vast majority of people who are down on their luck financially are that way due to their own poor decisions.  We live in North America - There is NO excuse for being poor if you have a brain and working arms and legs.

Then there is you - How is life treating you in your 95% White gated community.  Still out there fighting racism and classism I see.  

Tim, the champion of the poor!  He just likes to live as far away from them as possible while he praises them.  It's funny how Tim resents me calling the poor scum [not all are, just a disproportionate number of them, i.e., any able-bodied adult who is poor is most likely that way through their own bad decisions], meanwhile he lives nowhere near them!  Talk about hypocrisy.  Meanwhile I have had to suffer for much of my adult life due to poor people and their bad choices and here is Tim giving me shit!  What nerve.  Try being screwed out of rent by three tenants all in the same month and then tell me how great you think poor people are Tim.

[Tito24]

[Hugo Chavez]

Exactly.

You sound like a rich liberal who lives in a gated community and has this romantic notion of the poor as if they are all struggling and the victims of "society" yet chooses to live nowhere near them.    I hate those kind of liberals, total hypocrites.  They opine about climate change will sipping on a latte.

My point is that most poor people are scum.

lol, well ok then.  just think of me as you're resident elite liberal scum

[Matt C]

Which kind do you like?

Liberal Finance Minister Paul Martin's decisions turned out to be very good for Canada.  I would have opposed some of his decisions on empirical grounds, but in hindsight they worked out very well.  For example, by preventing Canada's banks from merging their assets to purchase US mortgage stocks before the mortgage bubble burst, Paul [inadvertently?] saved Canada's economy.  The assets the bank had intended to purchase using their combined financial clout were toxic and were far overvalued.  Much of Canada's economic stability can be attributed to this decision.  Was it the right decision?  In hindsight yes.  But theoretically, it was not a good decision and I do not feel that it was Paul Martin's right to tell private interest groups how to invest their private capital.

I won't go on about that, but the main point I am trying to make is that he made some very traditionally "liberal" moves which did truly help Canada's economy.  He also cut the transfer payments to individual provinces which put Canada in a surplus but it should be noted that while Paul is a "liberal", cutting transfer payments is definitely a conservative initiative.  That said, Paul did make "liberal" decisions which definitely helped Canada.

lol, well ok then.  just think of me as you're resident elite liberal scum

In the UK, they are referred to as "champagne socialists". 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_socialist

[Purple Aki]

Well redistribution of wealth is a joke
Over here the unemployed (and unemployable) have a better standard of living than workers
Free houses, free medical care and medicine, free public transport passes, etc
Its an absolute joke
When I become President of Ireland I will pass a law that if somebody hasnt worked 50% (and thats being generous) of their adult life then every single one of their benefits will be cut
On a good note one of my best mates is 3rd in command of our city's social welfare system and acts the prick with these losers everyday

The problem is that half these cunts have been out of work for so long that they are virtually unemployable. Who would want to hire someone that is in their late twenties/early thirties with little or no employment history?

A mate I went to school with told me recently that he was happy to stay on the dole, as due to tax credits and his missus working a part time job they are better off than when he was working fulltime and doing overtime. I wanted to punch him in his sponging face.

[The Wizard of Truth]

in the end they'll add diversitiy, culture and mixtureed drinks to your lilly white drunken Guinness based society.


in the end...just a poor girl on a beach   

NO
This is my arguement...Why must we take in Nigeria's and Rumania's scum? We have enough of our own
Non-nationals that are able and willing to work will be allowed in, Chinese for instance (they all want to work)

[CalvinH]

Poor people are great...I like to put a fishing line through a $20.00 bill and drop it on a sidewalk near some homeless bum.when he reaches for it I pull it away.



...fun times

[G_Thang]

NO
This is my arguement...Why must we take in Nigeria's and Rumania's scum? We have enough of our own
Non-nationals that are able and willing to work will be allowed in, Chinese for instance (they all want to work)

i'm not sure what the situation is in Ireland but i find it hard to believe that all Romanians and Africans are freeloaders, and the Chinese are God's chosen Immigrants.  in fact i would think they'd make good blue collar labor pool like poor mexicans migrating to the states.  everything i have read depicts Ireland a great culturally diverse place to immigrate since your catholic and protestant troubled days.  

[makaveli25]

I'm just sick of the pieces of shit you see at the grocery store who have their cart loaded up with tbone steaks, crab legs, candy and loads of non essential shit and they pay for it with their fucking food stamp card. Then they pull out a wad of cash and buy a carton of newports. Saw a guy pissed off the other day because he couldn't use his ebt card to get a monster energy drink  

Liberalism in its finest. The system is set up for, and encourages, them to do exactly that. If they were to somehow be accountable, that would lead to getting a steady income stream, which means getting off welfare and no longer being a guaranteed vote.

How can any responsible American man be a democrat in society now a days. Mine as well cut your fucken balls off and give half of everything you have to the peice of shit down the street slinging crack.

[G_Thang]

I'm just sick of the pieces of shit you see at the grocery store who have their cart loaded up with tbone steaks, crab legs, candy and loads of non essential shit and they pay for it with their fucking food stamp card. Then they pull out a wad of cash and buy a carton of newports. Saw a guy pissed off the other day because he couldn't use his ebt card to get a monster energy drink  

Liberalism in its finest. The system is set up for, and encourages, them to do exactly that. If they were to somehow be accountable, that would lead to getting a steady income stream, which means getting off welfare and no longer being a guaranteed vote.

How can any responsible American man be a democrat in society now a days. Mine as well cut your fucken balls off and give half of everything you have to the peice of shit down the street slinging crack.

foreigners and immigrants....here we have the over exaggerating north american:

[makaveli25]

You see It everyday. I work 60 hours a week and I'm just scraping bye. The illegal mexican down the street gets welfare, free healthcare , and on top of that works under the table. He sends a huge chunk of his money back to mexico takeing it out of our economy.

And then you see the ghetto fabulous 20 somethings who pull up to the store in brand new suv. They're on fucking food stamps, are you fucking kidding me. These people should be taken out into the streets and tard and feathered. I'm sick of it and so should everybody else. But the bleeding heart liberals don't give a fuck. They want votes. They want to keep these people down and out. It's the big lie that they actually care more for these people.

[James Blunt]

You see It everyday. I work 60 hours a week and I'm just scraping bye. The illegal mexican down the street gets welfare, free healthcare , and on top of that works under the table. He sends a huge chunk of his money back to mexico takeing it out of our economy.

And then you see the ghetto fabulous 20 somethings who pull up to the store in brand new suv. They're on fucking food stamps, are you fucking kidding me. These people should be taken out into the streets and tard and feathered. I'm sick of it and so should everybody else. But the bleeding heart liberals don't give a fuck. They want votes. They want to keep these people down and out. It's the big lie that they actually care more for these people.

How do you manage that? 

[Purple Aki]

Poor people are great...I like to put a fishing line through a $20.00 bill and drop it on a sidewalk near some homeless bum.when he reaches for it I pull it away.



...fun times

When they ask me "got any spare change, mister?": I like to stop, reach into my pocket, jingle the change and then say "Yes, plenty. Thanks". I then walk off in a jaunty manner.

It never fails to raise a smile on their grubby, malnourished little face.

[G_Thang]

You see It everyday. I work 60 hours a week and I'm just scraping bye. The illegal mexican down the street gets welfare, free healthcare , and on top of that works under the table. He sends a huge chunk of his money back to mexico takeing it out of our economy.

And then you see the ghetto fabulous 20 somethings who pull up to the store in brand new suv. They're on fucking food stamps, are you fucking kidding me. These people should be taken out into the streets and tard and feathered. I'm sick of it and so should everybody else. But the bleeding heart liberals don't give a fuck. They want votes. They want to keep these people down and out. It's the big lie that they actually care more for these people.

mexicans will live 3-4 families a household to move ahead.  i dont know when it became illegal for a person to have an automobile and still get govt assistance.  if i'm correct...people can still earn an income while they are being moved out the system...but of course...there are cheats.  white collar cheats are more dangerous.   mexicans will only add to the diversity of north america.  it's just a faster and greater (population) rate than anyone expected.



 

the new north american beauty standard....we're going retro.  the grandchildren of the native indians are returning.

 

[makaveli25]

How do you manage that? 

I'm not makeing that much. Im 26 years old I haven't found a good career yet. Im college educated the job market it tough right now. Bills are expensive and rent is expensive.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Some need it, most don't.  As you say.  Who am I to decide.  I used to pass this homeless man and gave him food as I passed each day.  He was truly grateful and was thankful for the meal.  Once homeless guy asked for money.  I told him that if he was hungry I would buy him a sandwich.  he said no and got mad.  I then pushed him to tell me what he wanted the money for and if he was honest that he would get $5, but if he lied he'd get nothing.  He then admitted it was for liquor.  I never gave him a penny.

There was this true story in San Diego years ago.  A homeless guy would stand at one of the busiest intersections begging for money.  Later that day a guy too photos of him going to the Washington Mutual bank and depositing a huge wad of money, it was a drug dealer type of wad.  The photographer spoke to the teller and she says that he makes about 2-3 cash deposits a day!

So it's hard to tell who needs it and who doesn't.

[The Ugly]

Seriously, how "open-minded" must one be to believe these people aren't simply freeloading off hard working Americans? No family or friends to help? No unemployment, no government or charity-based programs? Really?

If it makes you feel good to give, fine. But you're not helping in the true sense of the word - please be honest about this. Alcohol and drugs, that is all.

Exceptions: Mentally ill, but blame "advocates" here. They decided forced help (i.e., treatment and medication) is a violation of civil rights.

[Tapeworm]

tard and feathered

 

[wes]

Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.

I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.

Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.

You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.

I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.

You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during  any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.

Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! 

I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.

I wrote the book on hard times pal !!

[no one]

I wrote the book on hard times pal !!

you tell em.

props to you for overcoming that. a lot of people would just use that as an excuse to not do much with their lives.

[James Blunt]

I had to see if there were pictures of people tarred and feathered. Whoever came up with this is a cruel comedic genius.

[leadhead]

I could careless about others in society besides myself and my family. True getbigger fashion

[Ex Coelis]

I spent 4.5 "years" in the army reserves and met all sorts of people, people who YOU would have nothing to do with.

fixed

[The Ugly]

Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.

I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.

Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.

You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.

I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.

You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during  any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.

Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! 

I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.

I wrote the book on hard times pal !!

Respect.

[Kim Jong Bob]

Matt,I was one of a few white people that lived in a black ghetto as a kid..........lived there for over 25 years and hung on the streets all my life.

I`ve met a ton of homelss people as I`ve been there myself.

Overcame alcoholism,drug addiction,poverty,emotional/mental problems,etc. etc.

You have no fucking clue who I am or what I`ve done son,you only know what I`ve posted on the internet.

I can tell you stories that would literally curl your fucking hair.

You sir wouldn`t have lasted one minute during  any part of my life, including any workout you chose to do.

Matt,I think people stiff you on rent because you are a preppy nerd who has a stick up his ass! 

I`d laugh at what you would consider a hard time.

I wrote the book on hard times pal !!

lol talk about backfiring for matt.