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Any ideas how to survive 2012?
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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 12:20:33 AM »
yes, treat those around you, people and animals, and the the Earth itself in a truly loving manner.  Which translates into actually DOING WORK to make this a better place.  I'm afraid the huggy huggy kissy kissy love isn't going to go as long of a way as most of the New Agers think, and the swear fealty to one personage for salvation but don't actually do anything and certainly never bear your cross way is going to fail even worse! 

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 02:48:26 AM »
nothing to survive . its the end of an era but the beginning of a new one. its a normal change that occurs.       

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2008, 03:02:09 AM »
There are birthing pains.

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2008, 03:27:19 AM »
I love it when these wakos claim the world is gonna end, like 1999, 2000, etc, then when it doesnt - they just dream up a new date. F cking garbage

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2008, 04:04:53 AM »
The world isn't going to end, but we're in for some big changes; and along with these changes are going to come a certain level of discomfort. 

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2008, 04:37:15 AM »
I love it when these wakos claim the world is gonna end, like 1999, 2000, etc, then when it doesnt - they just dream up a new date. F cking garbage
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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2008, 05:08:02 AM »



we are all going to die it just a matter of when..why devote your energy trying to avoid the inevitable?


if you are so sure that 2012 is the end then here is what I recommend

1. Stop wearing a condom, why even bother?
2. Stop saving? there is no point to it
3. Fuck every skank that crosses your path.
4. Take as much steroids as you can tolerate, might as well look your best until you the end
5. Sell every tangible item that you own, since the world is going to end they are useless.\
6. Experiment with the other gender and a couple of farm animals..who knows you might like it.

anyone else care to add to this list?
Here comes the money shot

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2008, 05:14:40 AM »
we are all going to die it just a matter of when..why devote your energy trying to avoid the inevitable?


if you are so sure that 2012 is the end then here is what I recommend

1. Stop wearing a condom, why even bother?
2. Stop saving? there is no point to it
3. Fuck every skank that crosses your path.
4. Take as much steroids as you can tolerate, might as well look your best until you the end
5. Sell every tangible item that you own, since the world is going to end they are useless.\
6. Experiment with the other gender and a couple of farm animals..who knows you might like it.
7. Don't waste time on getbig.

anyone else care to add to this list?

No - the list is perfect.
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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2008, 05:20:36 AM »
i love a good conspiracy theory, but this 2012 stuff is silly.  I remember when the rapture was coming in 1994... people were actually killing themselves.  It was in the newspaper... 'will the world end tomorrow?' and the day came and went like any other day.

When you google 'world end 2012', you get some silly, silly reasons.  "Scientists at berkeley have said there's a 99% chance it will happen", etc.  Besides, the biggest guarantee you have is this:  If the world ends, all the rich people in the world will die too.  They won't like that.  They'll find a way to take out whatever meteor is heading our way.  Not because they give a rats ass about us, but because they care about themselves.

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2008, 05:55:36 AM »
What was the thing in '94 about?  what/who prompted it?

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2008, 06:19:39 AM »
What was the thing in '94 about?  what/who prompted it?

i think it was religion.  google '1994 rapture'.  i think it was 94, but i could be wrong.  i was in high school and went to church, and ppl were seriously nervous.

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2008, 09:23:09 AM »
just like all those idiots who sold their stuff, and bought thousands of dollars worth of canned goods for the year 2000  ::)

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2008, 10:18:46 AM »
Don't worry guys I will stand in its path and block it.  No worries

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2008, 11:42:05 AM »
I heard Bruce Willis was now in training with NASA to go and "Blow it up"
Dont worry Bruce will save all of us :)

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2008, 11:57:54 AM »
I come to my fellow Getbiggers bearing truth with optimism! The reality is that of probability. We can continue to blindly support wars and our totalitarian government and destroy ourselves with a mere few of our thousands of nuclear bombs or we can chose enlightenment and accept conscious evolution, learn to love ourselves and live in peace and harmony with all people of the same infinite consciousness.

As the great Bill Hicks would say:

"Here's my point folks, in the blink of an eye: we can have Heaven on Earth - it's a choice, that's all it is... You can look through the eyes of fear, you can look through the eyes of love, it's the only two ways to look. The eyes of fear is insanity, it's not really there, the eyes of love are the only real eyes. Bing. Go. Bing fucking go. Heaven on Earth right now if you want it. Right now. It's a choice! To look through the eyes of love instead of the eyes of fear, just once."

Terrence Mckenna and his Timewave Zero model of 2012 (most plausible prediction we have thus far)


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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2008, 12:46:20 PM »
we are all going to die it just a matter of when..why devote your energy trying to avoid the inevitable?


if you are so sure that 2012 is the end then here is what I recommend

1. Stop wearing a condom, why even bother?
2. Stop saving? there is no point to it
3. Fuck every skank that crosses your path.
4. Take as much steroids as you can tolerate, might as well look your best until you the end
5. Sell every tangible item that you own, since the world is going to end they are useless.\
6. Experiment with the other gender and a couple of farm animals..who knows you might like it.

anyone else care to add to this list?

Haha, why not follow that list right now whatever happens...

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2008, 09:41:21 PM »
I come to my fellow Getbiggers bearing truth with optimism! The reality is that of probability. We can continue to blindly support wars and our totalitarian government and destroy ourselves with a mere few of our thousands of nuclear bombs or we can chose enlightenment and accept conscious evolution, learn to love ourselves and live in peace and harmony with all people of the same infinite consciousness.

As the great Bill Hicks would say:

"Here's my point folks, in the blink of an eye: we can have Heaven on Earth - it's a choice, that's all it is... You can look through the eyes of fear, you can look through the eyes of love, it's the only two ways to look. The eyes of fear is insanity, it's not really there, the eyes of love are the only real eyes. Bing. Go. Bing fucking go. Heaven on Earth right now if you want it. Right now. It's a choice! To look through the eyes of love instead of the eyes of fear, just once."

Terrence Mckenna and his Timewave Zero model of 2012 (most plausible prediction we have thus far)





He has studied about this since 1970, what an incredible foresight... much respect!

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2008, 09:48:23 PM »

6. Experiment with the other gender and a couple of farm animals..who knows you might like it.




interesting....  :P

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2008, 11:31:20 PM »
Here's Terrence Mckenna talking about his Timewave Zero again, this time with a different but similar theory of 2012: the compression of time itself. Time has been speeding up and mankind has undergone shorter and shorter epochs as time goes along. How gradually shortening our evolution was from the transition from monkey to man, then from early man to speaking man, then from speaking men to tribal men, tribal men to civilized, civilized to industrial, industrial to technologically dominated society,technologically dominated society to ?



Yeah, this video is definetely a LOT better. I wouldn't post it if it were to be 10 minutes of your wasted life.

David Wilcock, a psychic, metaphysical expert and intuitive consultant, has his own scientific theory of 2012. I really like this one. I don't particularly believe it, as I try not to believe much these days, but I think it's more plausible than most else and he has someeee evidence to back up his claims.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13

He predicts an event he calls ascension. He says in that link, ” the changes in the Solar System (which is what can be proven along with the lining up of the planets to occur from 2010-2012) are only the more obvious and physical result of these changes, where the energy of consciousness itself is being upgraded, causing mass evolution to occur."

That's certainly an extraordinary statement, but I think it's plausible in some ways. I know that the transformation I've been undergoing as a person recently sets me apart from culture and society as we know it. Although I don't claim to be a guru in anything, I do believe that through my researches that I've come to have a better understanding of the universe than probably more than 99.9% of the history of man. Now THAT'S an extraordinary statement! So let me try to rebound your disbelief. Because of technology and the vast web of virtually all the information mankind is capable of sharing; the internet, I've been able to, through passionately pursuing these existential curiosities and wonders of mine (totally obsessed  :)), learn all the teachings and experiences of the greatest thinkers and revolutionary figures in history and all their ideas, and finding that many are so similar, or even complete eachother, to provide a better understanding of the nature of the universe. And those who also share my interests work to achieve a broader and clearer perspective of reality, although we all learn eventually that the mysterious is far too complex for our little brains to fully comprehend. Some of my crazier ideas come from mystical experiences that have been recorded and shared. Near death experiences (www.mellen-thomas.com/stories), heavy psychedelic experiences (
), meditation (buddhists frequently meditate into other dimensions), sensory deprivation (
). The experiences are all linked in various ways. Death of the ego, complex hallucination that are beyond your wildest imagination and beyond your ability to describe the experience with mere language.

So what I'm getting at is that this is a revolutionary time because of all this information out there (www.dedroidify.com). Part of who I am questions my purpose and reason for being here. And I know that I'm one of the many walking alarm clocks, truth viruses, catalysts, light givers, way showers, whatever we like to call ourselves, we're here to spread the message. www.dedroidify.com is a great place to start. At least give it a go, you might be contributing to conscious evolution, for all we know. Your beliefs will be challenged and you won't like the idea of having been wrong about your beliefs most your life, but truth is far more important than your pride and vanity.


"Intelligence is the capacity to receive, decode and transmit information efficiently.
Stupidity is blockage of this process at any point. Bigotry, ideologies etc. block the ability
to receive; robotic reality-tunnels block the ability to decode or integrate new signals;
censorship blocks transmission."

"Any grid we use to organize our experience of the world is a model of the world and should not be confused with the world itself."
-Robert Anton Wilson

"All models are wrong but some are useful."
George Box

"If all people learned to think in the non-aristotelian manner of quantum mechanics, the world would change so radically that most of what we call 'stupidity' and even a great deal of what we consider 'insanity' might disappear, and the 'intractable' problems of war, poverty and injustice would suddenly seem a great deal closer to solution."
Alfred Korzybski

A human being is a part of the whole called by us "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.

This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."
-Albert Einstein

"But at any rate, the point is that God is what nobody admits to being and everybody really is."
-Alan Watts

"I believe in the near future mankind will discover and accept a fundamental basis of agreement about what "God" is. Using what knowledge we have today, we can carve out predictions of tomorrow. Understand that quantum physics has already confirmed that all matter is essentially precipitated thought and bits of information at a subatomic level. Think about that for a minute. It's as if everything in the infinitely vast spectrum of our universe is the thought (or dream) of some divine mind. Talk about redefining God!"

"Reality is fiction when you come to realize that most truth is manufactured delusion."
-Eric Figueroa 
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www.dedroidify.com/vids

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2008, 01:46:29 AM »
lol epochs are getting shorter i like that one

http://www.botw.org/articles/endworld.html learn to read

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2008, 12:20:28 PM »
What a coincidence. This was the first thing I came across on the computer this morning. This is a great article. Again, I wouldn't post it if I thought it was a waste of your time. Prepare yourselves for conscious evolution, folks! Evolution didn't end with opposable thumbs!!  ;D

THE WORLD WILL NOT END IN 2012
By Carlos Barrios

Carlos Barrios was born into a Spanish family on El
Altiplano, the highlands of Guatemala. His home was in
Huehuetenango, also the dwelling place of the Maya Mam
tribe. With other Maya and other indigenous tradition
keepers, the Mam carry part of the old ways on Turtle
Island (North America). They are keepers of time,
authorities on remarkable calendars that are ancient,
elegant and relevant.

Mr. Barrios is a historian, an anthropologist and
investigator. After studying with traditional elders
for 25 years since the age of 19, he has also became a
Mayan Ajq'ij, a ceremonial priest and spiritual guide,
Eagle Clan.


Years ago, along with his brother, Gerardo, Carlos
initiated an investigation into the different Mayan
calendars. He studied with many teachers. He says his
brother Gerardo interviewed nearly 600 traditional
Mayan elders to widen their scope of knowledge.

"Anthropologists visit the temple sites," Mr. Barrios
says, "and read the inscriptions and make up stories
about the Maya, but they do not read the signs
correctly. It's just their imagination... Other people
write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say
that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan
elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It
will be transformed. The indigenous have the
calendars, and know how to accurately interpret it,
not others."

The Mayan Calendars comprehension of time, seasons,
and cycles has proven itself to be vast and
sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different
calendars, some of them charting time accurately over
a span of more than ten million years. The calendar
that has steadily drawn global attention since 1987 is
called the Tzolk'in or Cholq'ij. Devised ages ago and
based on the cycle of the Pleiades, it is still held
as sacred. With the indigenous calendars, native
people have kept track of important turning points in
history. For example, the day keepers who study the
calendars identified an important day in the year One
Reed, Ce Acatal, as it was called by the Mexicans.
That was the day when an important ancestor was
prophesied to return, "coming like a butterfly." In
the western calendar, the One Reed date correlates to
Easter Sunday, April 21, 1519 the day that Hernando
Cortez and his fleet of 11 Spanish galleons arrived
from the East at what is today called Vera Cruz,
Mexico.

When the Spanish ships came toward shore, native
people were waiting and watching to see how it would
go. The billowing sails of the ships did indeed remind
the scouts of butterflies skimming the ocean surface.

In this manner was a new era initiated, an era they
had anticipated through their calendars. The Maya
termed the new era the Nine Bolomtikus, or nine Hells
of 52 years each. As the nine cycles unfolded, land
and freedom were taken from the native people. Disease
and disrespect dominated. What began with the arrival
of Cortez, lasted until August 16, 1987 - a date many
people recall as Harmonic Convergence. Millions of
people took advantage of that date to make ceremony in
sacred sites, praying for a smooth transition to a new
era, the World of the Fifth Sun.

From that 1987 date until now, Mr. Barrios says, we
have been in a time when the right arm of the
materialistic world is disappearing, slowly but
inexorably. We are at the cusp of the era when peace
begins, and people live in harmony with Mother Earth.
We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but
we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is
the time in-between, the time of transition.

As we pass through transition there is a colossal,
global convergence of environmental destruction,
social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth changes.
All this, Mr. Barrios says, was foreseen via the
simple, spiral mathematics of the Mayan calendars. "It
will change," Mr. Barrios observes. "Everything will
change." He said Mayan Daykeepers view the Dec. 21,
2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the
Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting
from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the
galactic equator, and the earth aligning itself with
the center of the galaxy.

At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in
26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the
intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the
ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an
embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life, a
tree remembered in all the world's spiritual
traditions. Some observers say this alignment with the
heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for
cosmic energy to flow through the earth, cleansing it
and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher
level of vibration.

This process has already begun, Mr. Barrios suggested.


"Change is accelerating now, and it will continue to
accelerate." If the people of the earth can get to
this 2012 date in good shape, without having destroyed
too much of the Earth, Mr. Barrios said, we will rise
to a new, higher level.

But to get there we must transform enormously powerful
forces that seek to block the way.

A Picture of the Road Ahead
From his understanding of the Mayan tradition and the
calendars, Mr. Barrios offered a picture of where we
are at and what may lie on the road ahead: The date
specified in the calendar Winter Solstice in the year
2012 does not mark the end of the world. Many outside
people writing about the Mayan calendar sensationalize
this date, but they do not know. The ones who know are
the indigenous elders who are entrusted with keeping
the tradition.

"Humanity will continue," he contends, "but in a
different way. Material structures will change. From
this we will have the opportunity to be more human."

We are living in the most important era of the Mayan
calendars and prophecies. All the prophecies of the
world, all the traditions, are converging now. There
is no time for games. The spiritual ideal of this era
is action. Many powerful souls have reincarnated in
this era, with a lot of power. This is true on both
sides, the light and the dark. High magic is at work
on both sides.

Things will change, but it is up to the people how
difficult or easy it is for the changes to come about.
The economy now is a fiction. The first five-year
stretch of transition from August 1987 to August 1992
was the beginning of the destruction of the material
world. We have progressed ten years deeper into the
transition phase by now, and many of the so-called
sources of financial stability are in fact hollow.

The banks are weak. This is a delicate moment for
them. They could crash globally if we don't pay
attention. If the banks crash ... then we will be
forced to rely on the land and our skills. The
monetary systems will be in chaos, and we must then
rely on our direct relationship with the Earth for our
food and shelter. The North and South Poles are both
breaking up. The level of the water in the oceans is
going to rise. But at the same time land in the ocean,
especially near Cuba, is also going to rise.

A Call for Fusion

As he met with audiences in Santa Fe, Mr. Barrios told
a story about the most recent Mayan New Year
ceremonies in Guatemala. He said that one respected
Mam elder, who lives all year in a solitary mountain
cave, journeyed to Chichicastenango to speak with the
people at the ceremony. The elder delivered a simple,
direct message. He called for human beings to come
together in support of life and light. Right now each
person and group is going his or her own way. The
elder of the mountains said there is hope if the
people of the light can come together and unite in
some way.

Reflecting on this, Mr. Barrios explained: "We live in
a world of polarity: day and night, man and woman,
positive and negative. Light and darkness need each
other. They are a balance. Just now the dark side is
very strong, and very clear about what they want. They
have their vision and their priorities clearly held,
and also their hierarchy. They are working in many
ways so that we will be unable to connect with the
spiral Fifth World in 2012."

"On the light side everyone thinks they are the most
important, that their own understandings, or their
group's understandings, are the key. There's a
diversity of cultures and opinions, so there is
competition, diffusion, and no single focus."

As Mr. Barrios sees it, the dark side works to block
fusion through denial and materialism. It also works
to destroy those who are working with the light to get
the Earth to a higher level. They like the energy of
the old, declining Fourth World, the materialism. They
do not want it to change.
They do not want fusion. They want to stay at this
level, and are afraid of the next level.

The dark power of the declining Fourth World cannot be
destroyed or overpowered. It's too strong and clear
for that, and that is the wrong strategy. The dark can
only be transformed when confronted with simplicity
and open-heartedness. This is what leads to fusion, a
key concept for the World of the Fifth Sun.

Mr. Barrios said the emerging era of the Fifth Sun
will call attention to a much-overlooked element.
Whereas the four traditional elements of earth, air,
fire and water have dominated various epochs in the
past, there will be a fifth element to reckon with in
the time of the Fifth Sun: ether. The dictionary
defines ether as the rarefied element of the Heavens.

Ether is a medium. It permeates all space and
transmits waves of energy in a wide range of
frequencies, from cell phones to human auras. What is
"ethereal" is related to the regions beyond earth: the
heavens.

Ether the element of the Fifth Sun is celestial and
lacking in material substance, but is no less real
than wood, stone or flesh. "Within the context of
ether there can be a fusion of the polarities," Mr.
Barrios said. "No more darkness or light in the
people, but an uplifted fusion. But right now the
realm of darkness is not interested in this. They are
organized to block it.

They seek to unbalance the Earth and its environment
so we will be unready for the alignment in 2012. We
need to work together for peace, and balance with the
other side. We need to take care of the Earth that
feeds and shelters us. We need to put our entire mind
and heart into pursuing unity and fusion now, to
confront the other side and preserve life."

To be Ready for this Moment in History

Mr. Barrios told his audiences in Santa Fe that we are
at a critical moment of world history. "We are
disturbed," he said. "We can't play anymore. Our
planet can be renewed or ravaged. Now is the time to
awaken and take action."

"Everyone is needed. You are not here for no reason.
Everyone who is here now has an important purpose.
This is a hard, but a special time. We have the
opportunity for growth, but we must be ready for this
moment in history."

Mr. Barrios offered a number of suggestions to help
people walk in balance through the years ahead. "The
prophesied changes are going to happen," he said "but
our attitude and actions determine how harsh or mild
they are."

We need to act, to make changes, and to elect people
to represent us who understand and who will take
political action to respect the earth.

Meditation and spiritual practice are good, but also
action. It's very important to be clear about who you
are, and also about your relation to the Earth.

Develop yourself according to your own tradition and
the call of your heart. But remember to respect
differences, and strive for unity. Eat wisely. A lot
of food is corrupt in either subtle or gross ways. Pay
attention to what you are taking into your body. Learn
to preserve food, and to conserve energy.

Learn some good breathing techniques, so you have
mastery of your breath.

Be clear. Follow a tradition with great roots. It is
not important what tradition, your heart will tell
you, but it must have great roots. We live in a world
of energy. An important task at this time is to learn
to sense or see the energy of everyone and everything:
people, plants, animals. This becomes increasingly
important as we draw close to the World of the Fifth
Sun, for it is associated with the element ether - the
realm where energy lives and weaves.

Go to the sacred places of the earth to pray for
peace, and have respect for the Earth which gives us
our food, clothing, and shelter. We need to reactivate
the energy of these sacred places. That is our work.

One simple but effective prayer technique is to light
a white or baby-blue colored candle. Think a moment in
peace. Speak your intention to the flame and send the
light of it on to the leaders who have the power to
make war or peace.

We Have Work to Do

According to Mr. Barrios this is a crucially important
moment for humanity, and for earth. Each person is
important. If you have incarnated into this era, you
have spiritual work to do balancing the planet. He
said the elders have opened the doors so that other
races can come to the Mayan world to receive the
tradition. The Maya have long appreciated and
respected that there are other colors, other races,
and other spiritual systems. "They know," he said,
"that the destiny of the Mayan world is related to the
destiny of the whole world."

"The greatest wisdom is in simplicity," Mr. Barrios
advised before leaving Santa Fe. "Love, respect,
tolerance, sharing, gratitude, forgiveness. It's not
complex or elaborate. The real knowledge is free. It's
encoded in your DNA. All you need is within you. Great
teachers have said that from the beginning. Find your
heart, and you will find your way."
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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2008, 12:34:20 PM »

nothing will hapen, like the y2k, BS!
are you delusional?

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2008, 06:39:25 PM »
What's it got to do with the Mayans? honestly how can you just not say that they 'predicted' all these moon cycles and events based on observation over a period of time? this is what their credibility for the more significant "to occur"'s is based on.. and that itself is on a weak foundation, the Mayans we're an intelligent and neglected race but predicting the future? pshhh we've all had a go at that, why was it THEM that got it right? so far all their signs and marked days on their calendar could be taken with a grain of salt because its all interpretation, unless you can go back hundreds of years and have a jolly good chat with one of the top blokes, before he impales you with his pike that is..... gold ftw, go team Spain!

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Re: Any ideas how to survive 2012?
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2008, 04:09:40 AM »
I love it when these wakos claim the world is gonna end, like 1999, 2000, etc, then when it doesnt - they just dream up a new date. F cking garbage

Amen.  And of course, those prophets of doom generally blame "you" and "your way of life." 
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