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The next civil war in the Unite states
« on: May 16, 2009, 01:24:14 AM »
Let's say 'On-bongo' get's re-elected, & in 2014 (this is the out-side time limit - 'IMO' prob a lot sooner) in his sixth year in office, people rise up because they are sick of the depression/wars/government spending. Texas & Georgia already have plans to secede from the union, & Alaska also wants to secede. So let's say Alaska, Georgia & Texas 'secede from the union'. Their  (Air) National Guard forces/State Defense Forces/militia groups fight for that state. Gangs will see their chance in the ensuing chaos & arm their gang members, their leaders will effectively become warlords.

The Coalition has about 400.000 troops in Iraq, about 150.000 are US, & there are about 26,215 US troops in Afghanistan, 1000 troops in Djibouti, & about 25.000 in South Korea plus many more troops stationed abroad. So what would they do ?? Would the US commanders become warlords & struggle for power ?? Or would most of them come back to the US to support the government (doubt it, they know what is going on, I am sure well the non-JOO's at least), but how would they be re-supplied ?? They have no choice but to rely on the country they are stationed in.

Then you have the 'Brown Berets', Chicano (how ever you write it) that is an armed group of Aztlan loyalists, & the Black (muddy - rape loving) Legions who are part of the 'New Black Panthers'. then you'll have White nationalists militia. Many other racial groups would also start militias.

The pic of all the kit belongs to a mexican drug cartel that are backed by the military !! - sleep tight 'Chaos' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Then what would Mexico, Russia, China, DPRK, Iran do in this ensuing chaos ?? Would they take advantage of the situation & launch there military objectives ?? Iran would invade Iraq/Afghanistan, 'DPRK'/ - China would invade 'ROK' (South Korea) & Taiwan. Russia would take over former Soviet republics, Mexico would annex Aztlan - no doubt !!.

The Mexicans have the entire military behind them (in drug mulling op's etc) already - so the N & S - Mexican (gangs)  would have the best re-supply route (in the south) - Whites & Blacks will need to get the fuck out of Dodge !!

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2009, 01:34:18 AM »
 ::)  Stupid argument. 

I know Americans that have that much weaponry in their bedroom closet.  You Europeans really underestimate just how well armed we are as a country. 

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2009, 01:52:27 AM »
::)  Stupid argument. 

I know Americans that have that much weaponry in their bedroom closet.  You Europeans really underestimate just how well armed we are as a country. 

Read the post again.
If you live with-in 100 miles of the Mexican border, you - ARE FUCKED !!

You are forgetting one thing here, ammunition !! wha iz gwan be appnin when ya is run dry, ya russ clut, mon ??
How much Ammo do you have stored ?? .9mm - how many rounds - .45mm (ACP) ?? - 7.62mm ?? 5.56mm ??
I would wager not a whole lot monkey boy - hahahahaha  ::)

When them Mexicans kick off - you = FUCKED = & you know it - tough talk is just that.
When the chips are down - then we see who is a real warrior - escape/evasion - fire discipline - knife combat - killing a human while looking them in the eye, with a knife, etc.........

Carry on with the tuff talk - it might make you feel bad now, but when you have 80 odd of these fuckers with military re-supply on your block !! hahaha - try & mad Dog em - bad boy - LMFAO................... ......
 

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2009, 02:29:54 AM »
Let's say 'On-bongo' get's re-elected, & in 2014 (this is the out-side time limit - 'IMO' prob a lot sooner) in his sixth year in office, people rise up because they are sick of the depression/wars/government spending. Texas & Georgia already have plans to secede from the union, & Alaska also wants to secede. So let's say Alaska, Georgia & Texas 'secede from the union'. Their  (Air) National Guard forces/State Defense Forces/militia groups fight for that state. Gangs will see there chance in the ensuing chaos & arm there gang members, there leaders will effectively become warlords.

The Coalition has about 400.000 troops in Iraq, about 150.000 are US, & there are about 26,215 US troops in Afghanistan, 1000 troops in Djibouti, & about 25.000 in South Korea plus many more troops stationed abroad. So what would they do ?? Would the US commanders become warlords & struggle for power ?? Or would most of them come back to the US to support the government (doubt it, they know what is going on, I am sure well the non-JOO's at least), but how would they be re-supplied ?? They have no choice but to rely on the country they are stationed in.

Totally false premise.

First off, there's no way Obama gets re-elected in 2012 with 400,000 coalition troops still in Iraq.

I'm sure you'll succeed in scaring the poop out of those who are already scared of Mexicans though.  ;)

All xenophobic bigots need a good scare every once in a while, no mattar how irrational. They deserve it.  :)
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2009, 02:48:08 AM »
Read the post again.
If you live with-in 100 miles of the Mexican border, you - ARE FUCKED !!

You are forgetting one thing here, ammunition !! wha iz gwan be appnin when ya is run dry, ya russ clut, mon ??
How much Ammo do you have stored ?? .9mm - how many rounds - .45mm (ACP) ?? - 7.62mm ?? 5.56mm ??
I would wager not a whole lot monkey boy - hahahahaha  ::)

When them Mexicans kick off - you = FUCKED = & you know it - tough talk is just that.
When the chips are down - then we see who is a real warrior - escape/evasion - fire discipline - knife combat - killing a human while looking them in the eye, with a knife, etc.........

Carry on with the tuff talk - it might make you feel bad now, but when you have 80 odd of these fuckers with military re-supply on your block !! hahaha - try & mad Dog em - bad boy - LMFAO................... ......
 



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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2009, 03:44:28 AM »
You're an idiot. 

How very scientific of you  ::)

Care to make a counter debate ?? ;)
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2009, 03:56:44 AM »
Totally false premise.

First off, there's no way Obama gets re-elected in 1) 2012 with 400,000 coalition troops still in Iraq.

2)I'm sure you'll succeed in scaring the poop out of those who are already scared of Mexicans though.  ;)


1) you are going on the premise that he was elected in the first place, LOLz, I used the term as a mere tip of the hat, nothing more.
With all the Electronic - vote rigging - do you in all, honesty, think he was elected in the first place ??

2) You are missing the point, some what.
This is - ALL - on the cards (I would even go as far as to use the word, AGENDA).

YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TOO COMFY FOR - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TO  MANY GENERATIONS NOW- there is a storm a comin & it's gona a be a BIG one !!

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2009, 04:13:35 AM »
YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TOO COMFY FOR - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TO  MANY GENERATIONS NOW- there is a storm a comin & it's gona a be a BIG one !!

This will happen sooner as these ignorant "we rule the world" yanks think. In the long run everybody gets what they deserve. Good luck with that, while you stuff your fat bellies with greasy food.  :)

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2009, 04:46:47 AM »
This will happen sooner as these ignorant "we rule the world" yanks think. In the long run everybody gets what they deserve. Good luck with that, while you stuff your fat bellies with greasy food.  :)

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2009, 05:28:01 AM »
1) you are going on the premise that he was elected in the first place, LOLz, I used the term as a mere tip of the hat, nothing more.
With all the Electronic - vote rigging - do you in all, honesty, think he was elected in the first place ??

Compared to the alternative choice of McCain & Palin? ABSOLUTELY!

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2) You are missing the point, some what.
This is - ALL - on the cards (I would even go as far as to use the word, AGENDA).

YOU HAVE ALL BEEN WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TOO COMFY FOR - WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY TO  MANY GENERATIONS NOW- there is a storm a comin & it's gona a be a BIG one !!


No doubt, ...but I doubt it will be the scenario you describe. I'm not too worried, ...I'm in Canada.
Although we might be overrun by some American refugees, most won't come, ...we have legal same-sex marriage.
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2009, 05:35:01 AM »
Compared to the alternative choice of McCain & Palin? ABSOLUTELY!

No doubt, ...but I doubt it will be the scenario you describe. I'm not too worried, ...I'm in Canada.
Although we might be overrun by some American refugees, most won't come, ...we have legal same-sex marriage.

Thats why you love canada so much.  Your girlfriend is there.   :o :o :o

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2009, 06:09:45 AM »
Let's say 'On-bongo' get's re-elected, & in 2014 (this is the out-side time limit - 'IMO' prob a lot sooner) in his sixth year in office, people rise up because they are sick of the depression/wars/government spending. Texas & Georgia already have plans to secede from the union, & Alaska also wants to secede. So let's say Alaska, Georgia & Texas 'secede from the union'. Their  (Air) National Guard forces/State Defense Forces/militia groups fight for that state. Gangs will see their chance in the ensuing chaos & arm there gang members, their leaders will effectively become warlords.

The Coalition has about 400.000 troops in Iraq, about 150.000 are US, & there are about 26,215 US troops in Afghanistan, 1000 troops in Djibouti, & about 25.000 in South Korea plus many more troops stationed abroad. So what would they do ?? Would the US commanders become warlords & struggle for power ?? Or would most of them come back to the US to support the government (doubt it, they know what is going on, I am sure well the non-JOO's at least), but how would they be re-supplied ?? They have no choice but to rely on the country they are stationed in.

Then you have the 'Brown Berets', Chicano (how ever you write it) that is an armed group of Aztlan loyalists, & the Black (muddy - rape loving) Legions who are part of the 'New Black Panthers'. then you'll have White nationalists militia. Many other racial groups would also start militias.

The pic of all the kit belongs to a mexican drug cartel that are backed by the military !! - sleep tight 'Chaos' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Then what would Mexico, Russia, China, DPRK, Iran do in this ensuing chaos ?? Would they take advantage of the situation & launch there military objectives ?? Iran would invade Iraq/Afghanistan, 'DPRK'/ - China would invade 'ROK' (South Korea) & Taiwan. Russia would take over former Soviet republics, Mexico would annex Aztlan - no doubt !!.

The Mexicans have the entire military behind them (in drug mulling op's etc) already - so the N & S - Mexican (gangs)  would have the best re-supply route (in the south) - Whites & Blacks will need to get the fuck out of Dodge !!

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What an imagination! As if anyone would want to "fight" to bring TX, GA, and AK back into the fold.  ::)

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2009, 06:10:26 AM »
Thats why you love canada so much.  Your girlfriend is there.   :o :o :o

uh, ...dude, I'm a hetero woman  :)
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2009, 08:10:18 AM »
i'll move to the netherlands! the land of sheep!
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2009, 08:17:15 AM »
What an imagination! As if anyone would want to "fight" to bring TX, GA, and AK back into the fold.  ::)

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Stunning response - took me 2 hrs to get through that lot.

You still can not see it can you, HO-HUM - as I said to my sponsor the day before last (or did he say it to me - whatever).
"there are those that know - & there are those that do not, FUCK THEM" !!

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2009, 08:19:15 AM »


No doubt, ...but I doubt it will be the scenario you describe. I'm not too worried, ...I'm in Canada.
Although we might be overrun by some American refugees, most won't come, ...we have legal same-sex marriage.

You doubt away 'Thomas' - but I would wager that living in 'Canada' makes that confidence a few 1000-miles stronger, huh ?? ;D ;D ;)
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2009, 08:24:32 AM »
Stunning response - took me 2 hrs to get through that lot.


You still can not see it can you, HO-HUM - as I said to my sponsor the day before last (or did he say it to me - whatever).
"there are those that know - & there are those that do not, FUCK THEM" !!

Good luck with it all..................... ................
It was all the response necessary for such an idiotic post. If TX, AK, and GA want to succeed, don't let the doorknob hit 'em on the way out. They'd be starving for aid from Uncle Sam in two weeks.

Judging from the intellectual firepower displayed in your posts, it no doubt took you two hours to get through two sentences.

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2009, 08:40:58 AM »
It was all the response necessary for such an idiotic post. If TX, AK, and GA want to succeed, don't let the doorknob hit 'em on the way out. They'd be starving for aid from Uncle Sam in two weeks.


I had hoped for a serious discussion on the inevitable future, now that - ALL THE MONEY IS GWAN - but if 'head in the sand' is your bag, I say "run do not walk to it"

Yeah, I am mentally retarded - every out of stock gun/ammo (in the entire country) supplier must be suffering from the same delusions, huh ??
Still, good for business I spose - not sure what they will do with all that fiat currency though, can you eat Cotton/Paper ?? ??? ??? ::)
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2009, 08:43:51 AM »
I had hoped for a serious discussion on the inevitable future, now that - ALL THE MONEY IS GWAN - but if 'head in the sand' is your bag, I say "run do not walk to it"

Yeah, I am mentally retarded - every out of stock gun/ammo (in the entire country) supplier must be suffering from the same delusions, huh ??
Still, good for business I spose - not sure what they will do with all that fiat currency though, can you eat Cotton/Paper ?? ??? ??? ::)

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 08:48:52 AM »
So Long, Pardner
by Hendrik Hertzberg May 4, 2009





QUESTION: What do you think about the idea of secession or sovereignty for your state?
GOVERNOR PERRY, OF TEXAS: Oh, I think there’s a lot of different scenarios.

On April 15th, a.k.a. tax day, protest rallies promoted by conservative lobbyists and Fox News television hosts attracted a couple of hundred thousand people to a couple of hundred locations around the country. The rallies were called “tea parties”—more mad than Boston, by the look and sound of them—with “tea” standing for “Taxed Enough Already.” The partygoers’ main target was President Obama’s plan for an enormous tax hike, under which, starting in 2011, persons with incomes in excess of a quarter-million dollars could see their top marginal rate go from thirty-five per cent to 39.6. This means that a fellow making, for example, three hundred grand could see his tax bill go up $34.62 per week. (In a typical liberal trick, most people making under a quarter mil, which is to say ninety-seven per cent of us, are getting a reduction.)

Lifting the burden of taxation from the backs of the comfortable is no longer the exciting new panacea it was back in the nineteen-eighties. But another proposal that the tea parties were buzzing about merits the respectful consideration of concerned citizens: Governor Rick Perry’s suggestion that Texas might end its association with the United States of America and strike out on its own.

Independence wouldn’t be a huge stretch for Texas. It already has its own national flag, left over from its decade as a sovereign republic. As a result, transition expenses should be minimal. At the Austin tea party, Governor Perry, still flushed with the excitement of denouncing federal oppression from the platform, told reporters, “When we came in the union, in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that.” He added, a little ominously:


My hope is that America, and Washington in particular, pays attention. We’ve got a great Union. There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, who knows what might come out of that.

Or, translated into New Yorkese: Nice little Union you got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it.

The Governor is mistaken about Texas having been admitted to the Union with an opt-out provision; the actual deal was that Texas, with Congress’s permission, could theoretically divide itself into five states. Exiting the United States is not as simple as resigning from a restricted country club. Since “the Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union” (Chief Justice Salmon P. Chase, Texas v. White, 1869), Perry would need either a constitutional amendment or a Supreme Court chock-full of Scaliaesque “originalists.”

Putting aside the technicalities, though, what about the merits? Secession has been in questionable odor ever since Fort Sumter, but there are big differences between then and now. The cause of the Civil War was slavery, and the white South’s determination, in Lincoln’s phrase, “to strengthen, perpetuate, and extend” it. That was something worth fighting against, if not worth fighting for. But a difference of opinion about a marginal tax rate? There is, to be sure, a superficial parallel: just as only a minority of Southern whites owned slaves, only a tiny minority of Texans are due for a tax increase. It’s an aspirational thing. According to a poll taken the other day, a mere third of the people of the Lone Star State, and only half of Texas Republicans, are currently inclined to secede. But, if the numbers mount, might it not be better for all concerned if we just let Texas—and, by extension, any other parts of the old Confederacy that wish to accompany it—go?

Despite Perry’s fighting words, there is no reason for the separation to be an occasion for violence. The globe is replete with two-state solutions: India and Pakistan, Ethiopia and Eritrea, Israel and Palestine. Admittedly, these may not be the best examples. A closer parallel would be Czechoslovakia, which, in 1993, split peacefully into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. Like Czechs and Slovaks, Americans and Texans speak closely related languages, share a common, if not equally intense, interest in football games (though the Dallas Cowboys could no longer style themselves “America’s Team”), and enjoy each other’s cuisines. (Houston has a number of acceptable organic fusion restaurants, and there is a pretty fair barbecue place just a block from The New Yorker’s offices.) The border between the United States and the Federated States (“Confederate” being a word that remains a little too provocative) might not be as trouble-free as that between the United States and Canada, but, compared to the border with Mexico, it would probably require somewhat fewer armed citizen militias and fences topped with concertina wire to thwart illegal aliens desperate for a better life. On balance, trade relations between the U.S. and the F.S. would be advantageous to both. Cultural exchanges, tourism, and even a degree of military coöperation would be far from unthinkable.

For the old country, the benefits would be obvious. A more intimately sized Congress would briskly enact sensible gun control, universal health insurance, and ample support for the arts, the humanities, and the sciences. Although Texas itself has been a net contributor to the Treasury—it gets back ninety-four cents for each dollar it sends to Washington—nearly all the other potential F.S. states, especially the ones whose politicians complain most loudly about the federal jackboot, are on the dole. (South Carolina, for example, receives $1.35 on the dollar, as compared with Illinois’s seventy-five cents.) Republicans would have a hard time winning elections for a generation or two, but eventually a responsible opposition party would emerge, along the lines of Britain’s Conservatives, and a normal alternation in power could return.

The Federated States, meanwhile, could get on with the business of protecting the sanctity of marriage, mandating organized prayer sessions and the teaching of creationism in schools, and giving the theory that eliminating taxes increases government revenues a fair test. Although Texas and the other likely F.S. states already conduct some eighty-six per cent of executions, their death rows remain clogged with thousands of prisoners kept alive by meddling judges. These would be rapidly cleared out, providing more prison space for abortion providers. Although there might be some economic dislocation at first, the F.S. could remedy this by taking advantage of its eligibility for OPEC membership and arranging a new “oil shock.” Failing that, foreign aid could be solicited from Washington. But the greatest benefit would be psychological: freed from the condescension of metropolitan élites and Hollywood degenerates, the new country could tap its dormant creativity and develop a truly distinctive Way of Life.

Not every Southerner would be eager to go along with the new order, so delicate diplomacy would be a must. New Orleans might have to be made a “free city,” like Danzig (now Gdańsk) between the world wars. If partitioning Austin along the lines of Cold War Berlin proved unfeasible, peacekeeping troops might have to be sent in. But, before long, living side by side in peace and tranquillity, we could all say either “God bless the United States of America” or “God bless the Federated States,” as the case may be. ♦
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2009, 08:51:29 AM »
Depends upon how strong the economy is perceived and job growth.

We'll have a class war no matter what happens with the economy and jobs.

Civil war? Unlikely, no one cares enough to actually do something. If we did, things would have never gotten this bad.

Obama, barring any huge mistakes, will probably get easily re-elected. He inherited most of this mess but still is spending too much. Enough time hasn't passed for him to have any real problems.

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2009, 09:37:34 AM »
First off there are two of the world largest military bases within a few miles or a few hours of the border or any major entry point into the US from Mexico. We could flaten a 100km area inside mexico, from where I sit right now. US forces in Iraq will draw down well below 400k troops by 2011. Obama won't get elected again...and the rest is just drivel.
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2009, 09:41:49 AM »
It was all the response necessary for such an idiotic post. If TX, AK, and GA want to succeed, don't let the doorknob hit 'em on the way out. They'd be starving for aid from Uncle Sam in two weeks.

Judging from the intellectual firepower displayed in your posts, it no doubt took you two hours to get through two sentences.

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He probably is retarded. Check this quote from our resident Seaborg.  ::)


Dysfunctional family up-bringing - Guns - Knives - anti-social behavior - pornography - school for maladjusted children - prison time - sociopolitical tenancies - a problem with authority figures  -  Chess - reading - fucking more than one person at a time -   lifting weight - Testosterone (probably not a good idea with my mental condition) - avoiding dullards like you at all costs - avoiding most people at all costs - the list goes on............

I don't think he even made it past high school. 85 IQ at most.

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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2009, 09:48:12 AM »
All that and he sucks cock to.
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Re: The next civil war in the Unite states
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2009, 09:48:33 AM »
First off there are two of the world largest military bases within a few miles or a few hours of the border or any major entry point into the US from Mexico. We could flaten a 100km area inside mexico, from where I sit right now. US forces in Iraq will draw down well below 400k troops by 2011. Obama won't get elected again...and the rest is just drivel.

You're assuming two things will happen. The economy will improve to the point where lower middle class believes people start feeling rich and that someone electable/charismatic will rise from the Republican party ranks.

Neither of those is likely. That opinion has nothing to do with politics. The economy just can't improve to that extent in the next 4 years, especially considering how hard the real estate market has been hit.

Next show to drop... commercial real estate abutting residential areas.