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« Reply #125 on: February 07, 2012, 05:00:11 AM »
finaplix was around for a long, long, long time


you think everybody lives in usa???? ;D ;D ;D
in europe nobody liked or used finaplix bro.....
i said is was not easy to com by.... once the last para's were gone.... :'( :'( :'(
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« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2012, 05:25:03 AM »
My frend,

I am talking about buying the stuff in PUBLIC PHARMACIES were you buy your xanax and your viagra or the ibrufen for your kids! You can not get more legit gear than that!

And you buy the deca in greece for the 2€ and change in the pharmacy. Sorry, it's like that. Of course you have to buy small quantities in order to don't get authority problems.

And you buy equipoise in a vet pharmacy yes, you just have to get a prescription (or not depending if you have any "friend" there), harder in portugal, muuuuuucho más easy in spain amigo.

And 50mg of legit boldenone is VERY different than 50mg of some shit (or oily urine) non steril underdosed undergroung lab bunk, so you will do de party with a lot less ml's, for the sake of your ass chicks.

You say "all kinds of anabolics are being produced" but i have to disagree. It's more like al kinds of supposed to be anabolics are being produced, but fortunatelly there still are REAL steroids. Of course we all would like to have legit tren and the such but that is not a excuse to use bunk health hazard material.

An the thing about zambon or desma, it's the same factory, they just changed names in order to get funding.

You say "ugl is the future.... humangrade quality but not officially...." but how can you be assured of that humangrade quality? There is no entity that checks those labs for purity or sanitary conditions. You just can't be sure of what you are injecting in your ass.

My advice to all is go legit if possible and design your cycles around the legit steroids that you can get. If you can't let some brave human guinea pig try the ugl whatever before you. If it works with him or them, then give it a shot ;D

To end this nobody still answer my initial question:
How come trenbolona/anapolona/ganabola were shit for bodybuilders in 2006 and in 2011 they are the BEST CHOICES a bodybuilder can make? (and don't come with the cost argument because that was never the point in this discussion).
2012 as come and now.... it's the never before spoken PRIMOBOLANA!

The bible is a big mess.

Please oh mighty one enlighten us, your humble discipules.

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my friend,
are you familiar with the eu regulations?????
europe is one big happy family nowadays... the days of buying in spanish farmacias is long gone....
same for greece and portugal... it's not that easy anymore.... trust me... i have people there....
and 2 euro's for a norma...??? yeah the fake normas that are being made by that ugl! lol... real ones are more then 2 euro's bro...

street price of norma's were about 7 to 9 euro's and that was 6 years ago....my guy paid about 5 for them... and he got them from a big big big fish in europe.... that dude got them for about 3/4 maybe !! but i doubt it...this is all bulk!!! not 10 ampoules lol... BULK!!!!

and to answer your question.... read the bible... read back and the answer is right there...
that plus the stuff i said earlier....

about zambon...
desma has the liscence now.... zambom is no more.... different company...
if you have a zambon and it says 2008... it's fake... should say desma.... that is why i said what i said...
human grade brands are so much faked it's not even funny bro.... i have seen scherings.... testovirons, sustanons, anapolons, hell even cheap ass good for nothing omnadrens are being faked.... lol...
all from farmacias in turkey (except the omna's), official farmacias! and fake!!!
70/80% is fake.... and you can't tell by looking at it.... it's perfectly done...

we got stuff from iran at the time, as i had friends living there... so test/deca/anadrol.. all good to go...
but the rest.... 70% fake bro..... spain = lots of fake.... trust me.... turkey = lots of fake....
also many factories produce less and less, because they know where their products are going...lol...
that is why parabolan was stopped, it was not used in medicine anymore, the product went straight to the black market... primobolan production is stopped by schering germany... ect ect... you will see this happen more and more... prices of hg gear will be so high that is is simply better to buy a good ugl product.
that is why i keep telling ugl = the future.... you have decent ugl around you know, run by people who care... who want to give bodybuild good products...
there are goldfish among the sharks...
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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2012, 06:50:33 AM »
my friend,
are you familiar with the eu regulations?????
europe is one big happy family nowadays... the days of buying in spanish farmacias is long gone....
same for greece and portugal... it's not that easy anymore.... trust me... i have people there....
and 2 euro's for a norma...??? yeah the fake normas that are being made by that ugl! lol... real ones are more then 2 euro's bro...

street price of norma's were about 7 to 9 euro's and that was 6 years ago....my guy paid about 5 for them... and he got them from a big big big fish in europe.... that dude got them for about 3/4 maybe !! but i doubt it...this is all bulk!!! not 10 ampoules lol... BULK!!!!

and to answer your question.... read the bible... read back and the answer is right there...
that plus the stuff i said earlier....


about zambon...
desma has the liscence now.... zambom is no more.... different company...
if you have a zambon and it says 2008... it's fake... should say desma.... that is why i said what i said...
human grade brands are so much faked it's not even funny bro.... i have seen scherings.... testovirons, sustanons, anapolons, hell even cheap ass good for nothing omnadrens are being faked.... lol...
all from farmacias in turkey (except the omna's), official farmacias! and fake!!!
70/80% is fake.... and you can't tell by looking at it.... it's perfectly done...

we got stuff from iran at the time, as i had friends living there... so test/deca/anadrol.. all good to go...
but the rest.... 70% fake bro..... spain = lots of fake.... trust me.... turkey = lots of fake....
also many factories produce less and less, because they know where their products are going...lol...
that is why parabolan was stopped, it was not used in medicine anymore, the product went straight to the black market... primobolan production is stopped by schering germany... ect ect... you will see this happen more and more... prices of hg gear will be so high that is is simply better to buy a good ugl product.
that is why i keep telling ugl = the future.... you have decent ugl around you know, run by people who care... who want to give bodybuild good products...
there are goldfish among the sharks...

= you don't know. Ok, thanks for answering what we already knew. There is no plausible explanation.

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #128 on: February 07, 2012, 07:38:25 AM »
My frend,

Europe is not a big happy family, it's a dieing former nazi unificating german dream.  
Spanish are not germans and greeks are never going to be french, or portuguese like Fins lol so as an european, we all couldn't be more fallen appart. It's just a matter of time until the europe comunity falls appart, to many different goals and needs and beliefes between countries.
Hope that this makes the steroid market more accessible and relaxed :D!

The laws that regulate medication production in europe are very strict even more so for veterinarian use.
But... underground labs are what the name says: underground labs and god knows what is going on there. Not even the god of hormones know. They don't have any king of control because officially they cannot sell their stuff as being medication.

I truly am sad for all the ones that cannot access legit steroids, must be very frustrating when ugl is the only resource some have. But that doesn't mean that bunk gear suddentely get's better than the real stuff.

About buying gear in farmacias of course you don't just go there and buy 100 ampouls at a time. You go from times to times during the year and buy a couple sustenons today, some deca the day after. You build a nice stock at home gathering the shit you will need for your cycle. You may even trade some between your fiends, that's what friends are for...

About the 2€ normas it's just a matter of reading what's writen in the little box of the 2ml ampoul, and there it says 2 FUCKING EUROS!!! you don't need a magnifying lens to read that!! trust me i was there last summer!

Gear from iran or whatever just doesn't enter my seringe, i don't know them, i don't want to know them, i have the best steroids around me, don't need whatever they have to sell. Don't even use their petrol anymore.

Factories don't produce less because they know that 80% of their primobolan depot an their testex elmu prolongatum is going straight to the ass of athletes and they don't care, they just want to profit.

An example:

Until february 2007 in portugal testoviron depot and sustenon cost 2,2€ each (80 cents each if you got a prescription.) I know cause i bought them. In March all the testos and sustos disapeered from the market for 7-8 months.
When they apeared again they cost 7€ each. They know that for the trt patient it's a tiny cost increase in his threatment but for us was a stab in the back. Luckily the spanish testex remained in the 2€ range.
So as you see, medication companies know their scheme very well and know that the steroid busisness is a rampant one and very profitable.

But again, the main and initial question remains unanswered.








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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2012, 07:48:58 AM »
In 20 january 2007, the bible:

"i,,*****,,can take OXANDROLONE (anavar) at 140-160mg a day and get ONLY BY USING THIS LITTLE TINY "FEMININE" TABLETS,, get from 280+ 12%  to 280+ 6% in 8 weeks or less.

we always tell you how anavar is a pussy drug,,,but what we dont tell you is how much we use it because it is,, together with dianabol and nandrolone,, the best drug ever made on planet earth,,,drug that burns and sheds adipose fat and the most stuborn bicellular fat cells,,but we just dont want you to use it,,why? bodybuilding is selfish sport where every one is a wolf,,especially if competes."

I thought it was the primobolana...

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« Reply #130 on: February 07, 2012, 07:54:14 AM »
In 20 january 2007, the bible:

"i,,*****,,can take OXANDROLONE (anavar) at 140-160mg a day and get ONLY BY USING THIS LITTLE TINY "FEMININE" TABLETS,, get from 280+ 12%  to 280+ 6% in 8 weeks or less.

we always tell you how anavar is a pussy drug,,,but what we dont tell you is how much we use it because it is,, together with dianabol and nandrolone,, the best drug ever made on planet earth,,,drug that burns and sheds adipose fat and the most stuborn bicellular fat cells,,but we just dont want you to use it,,why? bodybuilding is selfish sport where every one is a wolf,,especially if competes."

I thought it was the primobolana...

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #131 on: February 07, 2012, 07:55:59 AM »
December 2006:

"best precontest drugs are masteron,,winstrol,,halo,,suspension,,and nolotil,, with duretics ofcourse in due time. ofcourse it changes from individual to individual and every one respond different to different products but those are main products needed  most in last few weeks,,,gh insulin and igf .. you gotta know well before you play with because they are known to ruin physiqes precontest and in general (you know who im talking about so no need for names)"

january 2007:

"the right way to bulk:

dianabol,,testosterone,,nandrolone

calorie high in the sky with some dirty meals,,aromasin from the pharmacy if you want to eliminate bloat completely,,bloat is good for you though! proviron for hardness and anti estrogen

the right way to cut:

oxandrolone,,testosterone+trenbolone,,,,masteron,,winstrol-inject and halo for final touch in this order too. aromasin and proviron for dryness and extra hardness all through.

every 2 weeks you add in a product till you get to a point where you are on all of them at once for a whole month.

clean diet! 5 days low carbs 1 days high carbs. no cytomel needed,,no clenbuterol needed. you can use some cytomel 25mcg if you add in growth and insulin but in general no cytomel needed when diet is clean,,not even for the trenbolone"

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #132 on: February 07, 2012, 08:18:38 AM »
Wooohoooo back to stacks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All that "I am the law" shit was boring me side ways and all that shit about growth fuck me... Thanks for finally getting back on track..

Thought you was quitting anyway?

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« Reply #133 on: February 07, 2012, 08:21:47 AM »
The bible, february 2007:

I call this chapter, "Where's the growth hormona?"

Here it goes:

"this is what i recomend and ONLY if followed to the t,, that means brands of gear too,,

thai dianabol (snake and arrow pink octagon shape anabols) by british disp,, or naposim by terapia romania,,ONLY THOSE 2.

testosterone cyp testex from spain,, or portugease testovis,, or norma hellas test enanthate from greece ,,or watson usa or anyother american long ester testosterone if you can find legit ones,,

nandrolone decanoate by norma hellas.

50-75mg dianabol/day 6 weeks

500-1gram test/week 10-12 weeks

400-600mg nandrolone/week 10-12 weeks

i would not use anti estrogen like nolvadex at all on a bulk,,if you want to stay somewhat hard and afraid of bitch tits,, i suggest adding proviron at 50-200mg/day and keep diet in tact and that means feeding yourself nasty clean food but make sure to eat it a lot because you need a lot of "clean" calories in a bulk for it to make you happy,,

so either choke on the food and chew it,, or smash it in a blender and drink it,,,done it plenty of times throughout my years in bodybuiliding,,,i just took the tuna cans and smashed them in blender and drank it right there with olive oil or penut butter,,,

also avoid protien shakes and all that crap,,avoid bars avoid that crap,,,keep it to food and only food and enough food as in lots of calories while bulking,,

the moment you get to 250lb and i assume thats where you will be past the 10th week,,i would suggest imidiatly to add in pure ephedrine at 25mg a day with caffine at 200-300mg a day and cycle it with some var,,tren en,,eq or primo depot,,with little bit test,,i dont care much for brands here as long as your source is solid,, for couple more weeks till week 18-20 then look in the mirror and you will smile,,you can maintain a protocol of injections of 2 times a week since everything is long ester.

the doses on the var,,tren enanthate,,eq and/or primo depot can be less than optimal,, because you work a combo here that will work very nice and together twards the aim of hardening your physiqe to a new level of size,,solidifying your gains,,and eliminating stubborn fat,, all of this while increasing or at the least maintaining your strength,,it also will help in the elimination of water that will also occure naturally the moment you drop the dianabol and nandrolone and reduce the test intake,,

if you have lots of fat on you as in 15%+ at the end of week 10,,i would add in at this phase aromasin or arimidex to kill the estrogen in the best possibe way for some time,, because the less estrogen you have circulating around,,the easier it will be for the products you take to harden you and eliminating fat down to the single digit you are after,,and take out the proviron to save money,,if your body fat is closer to single digits i wouldnt bother with ai at all.

you can add a solid 10-15lb of lean muscle,,in a 5-6 month period,,following this route,,
10-15 lb of pure lean muscle makes HUGE diff on a physiqe,,naturally same time period you might add 2-3lb if lucky and young enough,, aka under 30."

March 2007:

"nah brother mac Cheesy

dianabol
testosterone
nandrolone decanoate

he will grow like a weed,,he got italian what ever build on him,,his build screams muscle,,its like little bobbie,,
no need for gh or sliin if not competing at the high level,,

dianabol 40-50mg a day
test cyp or enanthate 500-750mg a week
nandrolone decanoate 400-600mg a week

make sure you get legit products,,

no need for anything else,,can add some ephedra caffeine and aspirin to eliminate the fat,,but it wont be a problem,,his genetics is good,,"

and

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GH- Can you give me a way to get ripped while still eating whatever i want ? Is it possible?? I don't want to use gear and have been training for 3 years now.
Leave my name off please.
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better have some muscle on you before you follow my advice my friend,,

1)bronkaid 1 tablet 2-3 times a day
2)caffeine 200mg caps 2-3 times a day
3) some cardio if no hormones involved
4) eat your junk with moderation and stay active,,3 meals a day will do with junk diet,,you have to be active on junk diets
5) you wont see anything lower than true 7% but i assume thats  what you look for,,if you see anything lower it will look sickly and unhealthy in the real world
6) i would add test eq trenbolone and masterone with aromasin as ai,, and clean majority of the diet if you want to see anything on the scale that resemble 200+ ripped/shredded pounds

good luck?
dont recomend it to anyone who wanna grow,, you will get what you want though and get ripped for the usa girlys Smiley
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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #134 on: February 07, 2012, 08:27:18 AM »
Nolotil was atleast no problem to get at spanish pharma in 2008...i lived there when i first read it was like esiclene...thought it would be better though...blows muscles up at the same grade as if you shot 2 ml of testex elmu or some 50 mg prop locally....might differ from people to people though
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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #135 on: February 07, 2012, 08:42:17 AM »
the good ol dbol+deca+test is a great cycle...i was shocked on how strong and big i got on that combo...russian methandrostenolone in blisters, organon deca with the yellow tops and nile sustanon...btw makes you bloated as hell but you feel awesome and some bloat in the offseason is nothing to cry about...bread and butter cycle...have not seen these good old russian dbols for years and years now...nile sust is no biggie to get now, the yellow tops are abit harder to get and was alot of counterfeits even 15 years ago...still see them from time to time
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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #136 on: February 07, 2012, 09:12:21 AM »
my friend,
are you familiar with the eu regulations?????
europe is one big happy family nowadays... the days of buying in spanish farmacias is long gone....
same for greece and portugal... it's not that easy anymore.... trust me... i have people there....
and 2 euro's for a norma...??? yeah the fake normas that are being made by that ugl! lol... real ones are more then 2 euro's bro...

street price of norma's were about 7 to 9 euro's and that was 6 years ago....my guy paid about 5 for them... and he got them from a big big big fish in europe.... that dude got them for about 3/4 maybe !! but i doubt it...this is all bulk!!! not 10 ampoules lol... BULK!!!!

and to answer your question.... read the bible... read back and the answer is right there...
that plus the stuff i said earlier....

about zambon...
desma has the liscence now.... zambom is no more.... different company...
if you have a zambon and it says 2008... it's fake... should say desma.... that is why i said what i said...
human grade brands are so much faked it's not even funny bro.... i have seen scherings.... testovirons, sustanons, anapolons, hell even cheap ass good for nothing omnadrens are being faked.... lol...
all from farmacias in turkey (except the omna's), official farmacias! and fake!!!
70/80% is fake.... and you can't tell by looking at it.... it's perfectly done...

we got stuff from iran at the time, as i had friends living there... so test/deca/anadrol.. all good to go...
but the rest.... 70% fake bro..... spain = lots of fake.... trust me.... turkey = lots of fake....
also many factories produce less and less, because they know where their products are going...lol...
that is why parabolan was stopped, it was not used in medicine anymore, the product went straight to the black market... primobolan production is stopped by schering germany... ect ect... you will see this happen more and more... prices of hg gear will be so high that is is simply better to buy a good ugl product.
that is why i keep telling ugl = the future.... you have decent ugl around you know, run by people who care... who want to give bodybuild good products...
there are goldfish among the sharks...


1-buying gear in pharma was ok in the early 90's.

2-street price is now 12/15 e, and even 20e in town like Paris.
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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #137 on: February 07, 2012, 11:32:13 AM »

1-buying gear in pharma was ok in the early 90's.

2-street price is now 12/15 e, and even 20e in town like Paris.
lol... isn't that what i said... those days are long gone? early 90's are long gone if you haven't noticed lolol!

12/15 euro's ??? yeah that seems about right.... the 8/9 euro's i was talking about was in 2005....
ever since then i have been making my own gear.... fuck all this hg.... 80% is fake anyway....
deca yellowtops? good luck finding originals... deca norma's almost all fake...
nile sustanon.... faked to the tenth degree....primo heavily faked, sustanon from organon/testoviron/anapolon.... faked faked faked...
the problem with hg brands is just as bad as with ugl's...... fakes everywhere....
nothing new the fake market... sometimes they ar good fakes with everything in them.... but a lot of times it's crap...
deca which has tes p in it.... primo also testP... etc etc...products underdosed....
better cook it yourself... ;)

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #138 on: February 07, 2012, 11:36:45 AM »
ok guys for the millionth time........ i'll say it again

READ THE BIBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HE SAID IT AND ILL REPEAT THE REASON HE RECOMMENDED TEST DECA DBOL WAS BECAUSE IT WAS PHARM GRADE AND WAS EASIER TO GET LEGIT AND HE DID NOT WANT TO REVEAL ALL THE SECRETS AT ONCE

SO NOW HE IS GOING ALL OUT WITH THE SECRETS.

THERE IS YOUR ANSWER.

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2012, 11:37:42 AM »
gh15 = idiot

yet you still comment on EVERY SINGLE POST about gh15

go figure  ::) ::)


you're just like that delta clown.... hate on gh15 for 1 second the next ask for advice  ::)

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« Reply #140 on: February 07, 2012, 12:12:08 PM »
lol... isn't that what i said... those days are long gone? early 90's are long gone if you haven't noticed lolol!

12/15 euro's ??? yeah that seems about right.... the 8/9 euro's i was talking about was in 2005....
ever since then i have been making my own gear.... fuck all this hg.... 80% is fake anyway....
deca yellowtops? good luck finding originals... deca norma's almost all fake...
nile sustanon.... faked to the tenth degree....primo heavily faked, sustanon from organon/testoviron/anapolon.... faked faked faked...
the problem with hg brands is just as bad as with ugl's...... fakes everywhere....
nothing new the fake market... sometimes they ar good fakes with everything in them.... but a lot of times it's crap...
deca which has tes p in it.... primo also testP... etc etc...products underdosed....
better cook it yourself... ;)


deca organon with yellow top, fake since 271 b.c...

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #141 on: February 07, 2012, 01:21:22 PM »
deca organon with yellow top, fake since 271 b.c...


lol!
on the real yellows jesus himself would have lifted the cross out of the ground , and beat those romans to death with it!
we would not have easter fest today though... and that would suck... i love chocolat eggs!
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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #142 on: February 07, 2012, 01:38:45 PM »
you know reasoni dont respond to this balonie ?

eveyrthing he quote there is true ! lol i read it since havnt read bible in llong time ,, i dont read my own books,, but! when i read it now it is all 100% true,,

when you qupte bible you need to underdstand that ther eare ages for bodybuild not everyone is 19 or 20 ,, you also need to understand that full 100% truth was revealed slower,, i needed to get invinsibility first as in to my life remember in the begining....i did not even write in steroid boardings,, and had more limit than what i became now when im invinsible and finaly canmake fellas pay price,,


everythig i wrote then is trut but the missing parts are TIMEEEE...we advanced,, top chefs with top of the top powders came to the pictures along this last 10 years but mainly 6 years,, alot happened,, still! what i wrote is 100% true and you can do it but! the more i wrote the more my advice aim in the highest possible level of bodybuild which is top amatuerr and ofcoure profesional card holders which are ALL ALL! drug junkies and! drug dealers in many cases

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #143 on: February 07, 2012, 02:14:18 PM »
I have a big smile in my face because i don't have to pay 20€ for a deca ampoul, but i also don't live in Paris...

I think i live in wonderland of juicers ;D!

When i quote the bible i was looking for enlightment because of the contradictions in there.

Ganabola was meant for horses in the past but when a bodybuilder mutates is a excellent steroid.

Anapolona was no good for bodybuilding just for anemia but after the mutation is the drug that every mutato has to have in blood.

Nowadays when extreme mutations have occured (and bible discipules are being called to The Hulk 3 castings) primobolana has to enter blood along with growht hormona.

This is no balonie GH15 and i am not here against you. I think your endeavour for the truth is very important in todays filth world of professional baloniebuilding. I morally support you God.

Plus the videos are something else, i e-mail them to all my juicehead and naturalliarsonlycreatine friends.

I just feel it's confusing all this sudden change in substances. My conclusion can only be: USE ALL the legit shit you can get your hands on/afford. LEGIT.

PS: 20 euros for a deca? JEEEESUUUUUS god almighty!!!

 

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #144 on: February 07, 2012, 03:28:36 PM »
I have a big smile in my face because i don't have to pay 20€ for a deca ampoul, but i also don't live in Paris...

I think i live in wonderland of juicers ;D!

When i quote the bible i was looking for enlightment because of the contradictions in there.

Ganabola was meant for horses in the past but when a bodybuilder mutates is a excellent steroid.

Anapolona was no good for bodybuilding just for anemia but after the mutation is the drug that every mutato has to have in blood.

Nowadays when extreme mutations have occured (and bible discipules are being called to The Hulk 3 castings) primobolana has to enter blood along with growht hormona.

This is no balonie GH15 and i am not here against you. I think your endeavour for the truth is very important in todays filth world of professional baloniebuilding. I morally support you God.

Plus the videos are something else, i e-mail them to all my juicehead and naturalliarsonlycreatine friends.

I just feel it's confusing all this sudden change in substances. My conclusion can only be: USE ALL the legit shit you can get your hands on/afford. LEGIT.

PS: 20 euros for a deca? JEEEESUUUUUS god almighty!!!

 
about the deca.....
back in the day i stopped buying them.... both the yellows and they norma's....
90% is fake..... yes 90%!!
20 is alot i agree... someone close to a good source should pay no more then 10/12...
i used to pay around 6/7 lol......
20 euros for just 200mg of nandrolone is fucking ridiculous.... buy a good ugl product and you have 10ml of 300mg/ml of deca... for 35/40 euro's.... if your well connected even less...
that is why i say ugl = future....
hg prices will rise and rise....
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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #145 on: February 07, 2012, 04:23:51 PM »
The bible, february 2007:

I call this chapter, "Where's the growth hormona?"

Here it goes:

"this is what i recomend and ONLY if followed to the t,, that means brands of gear too,,

thai dianabol (snake and arrow pink octagon shape anabols) by british disp,, or naposim by terapia romania,,ONLY THOSE 2.

testosterone cyp testex from spain,, or portugease testovis,, or norma hellas test enanthate from greece ,,or watson usa or anyother american long ester testosterone if you can find legit ones,,

nandrolone decanoate by norma hellas.

50-75mg dianabol/day 6 weeks

500-1gram test/week 10-12 weeks

400-600mg nandrolone/week 10-12 weeks

i would not use anti estrogen like nolvadex at all on a bulk,,if you want to stay somewhat hard and afraid of bitch tits,, i suggest adding proviron at 50-200mg/day and keep diet in tact and that means feeding yourself nasty clean food but make sure to eat it a lot because you need a lot of "clean" calories in a bulk for it to make you happy,,

so either choke on the food and chew it,, or smash it in a blender and drink it,,,done it plenty of times throughout my years in bodybuiliding,,,i just took the tuna cans and smashed them in blender and drank it right there with olive oil or penut butter,,,

also avoid protien shakes and all that crap,,avoid bars avoid that crap,,,keep it to food and only food and enough food as in lots of calories while bulking,,

the moment you get to 250lb and i assume thats where you will be past the 10th week,,i would suggest imidiatly to add in pure ephedrine at 25mg a day with caffine at 200-300mg a day and cycle it with some var,,tren en,,eq or primo depot,,with little bit test,,i dont care much for brands here as long as your source is solid,, for couple more weeks till week 18-20 then look in the mirror and you will smile,,you can maintain a protocol of injections of 2 times a week since everything is long ester.

the doses on the var,,tren enanthate,,eq and/or primo depot can be less than optimal,, because you work a combo here that will work very nice and together twards the aim of hardening your physiqe to a new level of size,,solidifying your gains,,and eliminating stubborn fat,, all of this while increasing or at the least maintaining your strength,,it also will help in the elimination of water that will also occure naturally the moment you drop the dianabol and nandrolone and reduce the test intake,,

if you have lots of fat on you as in 15%+ at the end of week 10,,i would add in at this phase aromasin or arimidex to kill the estrogen in the best possibe way for some time,, because the less estrogen you have circulating around,,the easier it will be for the products you take to harden you and eliminating fat down to the single digit you are after,,and take out the proviron to save money,,if your body fat is closer to single digits i wouldnt bother with ai at all.

you can add a solid 10-15lb of lean muscle,,in a 5-6 month period,,following this route,,
10-15 lb of pure lean muscle makes HUGE diff on a physiqe,,naturally same time period you might add 2-3lb if lucky and young enough,, aka under 30."

March 2007:

"nah brother mac Cheesy

dianabol
testosterone
nandrolone decanoate

he will grow like a weed,,he got italian what ever build on him,,his build screams muscle,,its like little bobbie,,
no need for gh or sliin if not competing at the high level,,

dianabol 40-50mg a day
test cyp or enanthate 500-750mg a week
nandrolone decanoate 400-600mg a week

make sure you get legit products,,

no need for anything else,,can add some ephedra caffeine and aspirin to eliminate the fat,,but it wont be a problem,,his genetics is good,,"

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GH- Can you give me a way to get ripped while still eating whatever i want ? Is it possible?? I don't want to use gear and have been training for 3 years now.
Leave my name off please.



better have some muscle on you before you follow my advice my friend,,

1)bronkaid 1 tablet 2-3 times a day
2)caffeine 200mg caps 2-3 times a day
3) some cardio if no hormones involved
4) eat your junk with moderation and stay active,,3 meals a day will do with junk diet,,you have to be active on junk diets
5) you wont see anything lower than true 7% but i assume thats  what you look for,,if you see anything lower it will look sickly and unhealthy in the real world
6) i would add test eq trenbolone and masterone with aromasin as ai,, and clean majority of the diet if you want to see anything on the scale that resemble 200+ ripped/shredded pounds

good luck?
dont recomend it to anyone who wanna grow,, you will get what you want though and get ripped for the usa girlys Smiley
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Bro this advice was made for 20 year olds gh15 is trying to get foundation! on....even then, do you think kuclo would be with his pro card if he played with test deca and dbol for 6 years with no gh? ::) Dorian Yates took Gh throughout his whole bodybuilding career, he didn't start the insulin until later. You have to be very gifted to look like a bodybuilder without GH, good structure, respond Incredbily tosteroids , and have high natural gh in the body. Not saying it can't be done but it's difficult, the kind of muscle you buiild with steroids is water between the skin and muscle. It's shit weight dude...it's real mucle of course but it still will look like shit. The new fibers HGH creates is what makes you a mutant/ not human. You will still be human on plain old steroids....just a bigger one with some thickness. You need to mutate to become an alien.
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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #146 on: February 07, 2012, 05:40:08 PM »
Old testament, new testament. It's all good shit. 8)

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #147 on: February 07, 2012, 05:45:29 PM »
In 20 january 2007, the bible:

"i,,*****,,can take OXANDROLONE (anavar) at 140-160mg a day and get ONLY BY USING THIS LITTLE TINY "FEMININE" TABLETS,, get from 280+ 12%  to 280+ 6% in 8 weeks or less.

we always tell you how anavar is a pussy drug,,,but what we dont tell you is how much we use it because it is,, together with dianabol and nandrolone,, the best drug ever made on planet earth,,,drug that burns and sheds adipose fat and the most stuborn bicellular fat cells,,but we just dont want you to use it,,why? bodybuilding is selfish sport where every one is a wolf,,especially if competes."

I thought it was the primobolana...

var is better than primo but primo gives better cosmetic effects (minus the hair loss).

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #148 on: February 07, 2012, 09:32:58 PM »
var is better than primo but primo gives better cosmetic effects (minus the hair loss).

Hey bro,

Could you go into more detail about your experience with primo?  I always wrote it off as a "weak" drug for some reason.  After reading here and this thread, I am seriously considering using it.  Could you go into a littl more detail what your experience with it was and how you liked it? 

Come the spring time, I am considering the following cycle:

500mg test cyp or enanthate per week
600mg masteron per week
600mg primo per week
600mg tren per week
100mg anavar every day for 20 days
100mg winstrol (oral) everyday for 6 weeks
15-20iu gh every day
T3

That will be the most hardcore cycle I have ever done by far.  I am really considering competing again and trying to get in great conditioning and be rock solid.


Any thoughts?  Thanks

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Re: Bible Index - Primobolana
« Reply #149 on: February 07, 2012, 10:52:00 PM »
hey bro

i'm in no way the premiere primo expert, i've not run it a lot nor for long periods of time but my brief experience with it is pretty similar to everyone else's and i have no real unique insight. running primo can be best described as EQ without the pumps, but instead giving a more continually full looking muscle belly along with really nice effects on the skin, best way i can describe that is better "hue" and glow - skin just looks healthier. it was ultimately derived from EQ, so it's pretty similar to it in anabolism/androgenic, though a bit less potent mg for mg and more androgenic.

i ran some from the "G" man, probably the best source that exists now, was mixed at 200mg/ml and gave a little pip, not unlike test-prop. no real drastic gains on it, nor do you really feel like you're "on" but first thing you'll notice is your delts look more capped, i also noticed hair fell out more and libido went up a bit. so, i have no desire to run it anymore due to the hairloss but if i would run it again, disregarding hairloss, i think 600mg along with tren + other steroids would be best dosage for the money, if it's by itself or the base of a cycle, or money isn't an issue i'd run it at 200mg/day.

in your cycle, i think if you lower the test dosage and then swapped out the var/winny for anadrol you'd get better gains and look better, but if you are 10% bodyfat or higher drol isn't the best choice. real beast cycle though and it's fine the way it is, just i just don't like winny because it has a bad reputation for increasing chances of tearing muscles + it's hard on the lipid profile