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I watched the program last night and its funny,not ONCE did Tim McCveigh mention Rush Limbaugh.However,according to Bill Clinton, it was Rush Limbaugh that inspired his hatred of government.I did hear McVeigh mention WACO about 100 times.So,while Bill Clinton tries to blame Rush Limbaugh for Oklahoma City the truth is it was him and Janet Reno burning innocent people alive FOR NO REASON that inspired McVEIGH.The blame lies at Clintons feet,not Limbaugh.This is typical lib crap,we see it over and over again,a census worker is found dead"right wing talk"[instead its a suicide].Hassan the fort hood killer, shoots people "its gun laws",no,its left wing anti war talk.A lib nut shoots an army recruiter and the left need only look at themselves and THEIR anti government talk to see where the blame lays.
Its not the tea parties its the left that inspires hate.
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Its funny that the libtards always say we should ask Al Queada why it committed 911 but never want to touch this one.
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Government Informant: Delta Force Involved In Waco Shoot-Out (1999)
http://www.mcsm.org/waco14.html ^ | September 6, 1999
Posted on Monday, April 19, 2010 9:06:14 PM by Sybeck1
September 6, 1999
WASHINGTON--A former government officer has told investigators that members of the secret Army unit Delta Force said they participated in a shoot-out during the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
The witness, according to congressional sources, has already named names; and will soon offer his account under oath!
The development caused panic and confusion at the top levels of the Justice Department and the FBI over the holiday weekend, leaving one top official scrambling for details.
FBI Director Freeh has demanded a full briefing, one agency source divulged late Monday.
Developing...
Meanwhile, congressional investigators are growing convinced that infrared film taken by an FBI surveillance aircraft at 9,000 feet on the final day of the Waco standoff does appear to show U.S. armed forces firing into the church compound.
"We are looking at the footage frame-by-frame... most of us have grown convinced that it does show snipers unloading from the rear of a tank," an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee told the DRUDGE REPORT.
Former FBI agent Richard Schwein, a supervisor at Waco, said charges of government gunfire were "absolutely false."
"False, absolutely false," he said on FOX NEWS SUNDAY. "No FBI agent fired any rounds from their weapons at Waco. There were no Delta Forces or special operations soldiers in an operational capacity at Waco." "And everyone on our side, and the FBI's side, were in armored vehicles, so I don't know how you'd have films of anybody firing into the back of the building. No one was on foot, because we had no body armor that would stop the rounds they were firing."
WAIVER WONDER
Use of active military personnel against civilians without presidential decree is a violation of federal law.
Late last month White House spokesman Joe Lockhart first told reporters that he had no information on the waiver issue.
[August 26, 1999; Thursday]
Q Joe, why was the Army's Delta Force present on the scene the day that Waco burned?
MR. LOCKHART: I would refer you to the Justice Department. I don't have information on the Delta Force one way or the other.
Q The reason I asked is because since the law prohibits the military being used against civilians, I wondered whether the White House either, A, requested it or, B, President Clinton signed a waiver for it.
MR. LOCKHART: I don't have any information on that. Again, I'd refer you to Justice. I don't have any independent information on their role, if any.
The next day, when asked again about any possible waiver, Lockhart offered more details.
[August 27, 1999; Friday]
Q What did the White House know about the potential operational involvement of Delta Force in the Waco siege?
MR. LOCKHART: I think that's an issue that was dealt with at the time. And as we said yesterday, the president was not asked to sign a waiver, nor were we aware of any activity that would have required a waiver. But, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, Lockhart may still not have the full story.
One witness has told congressional investigators that in April of 1993, in response to a press inquiry, a White House spokesman stated privately that a "waiver is on the president's desk that would have authorized military intervention.
A development that will cause battle during fresh rounds of congressional hearings.
FILED BY MATT DRUDGE
This Information Is From The Drudge Report
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did clinton really blame Rush? Anyone have a link I can read?
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did clinton really blame Rush? Anyone have a link I can read?
He did it right at the site that week and continued it last week.
CLINTON 1995: We hear so many loud and angry voices in America today whose sole goal seems to be to try to keep some people as paranoid as possible and the rest of us all torn up and upset with each other. They spread hate. They leave the impression that — by their very words, that — violence is a acceptable. You ought to see — I’m sure you are now seeing the reports of some things that are regularly said over the airwaves in America today. It is time we all stood up and spoke against that kind of (pounding podium) reckless speech and behavior.
CLINTON 2010: When I became president, it’s hard to remember this, there were only 50 sites on the World Wide Web. Among those who first saw its potential and made use of it were those who used the Internet to do all kinds of interesting things, including share information on how to make bombs. We didn’t have blog sites back then, so the instrument of carrying this forward was basically the right-wing radio talk show hosts. They understood that emotion was more powerful than reason. They got much bigger listenership and more advertisers and more commercial success if they kept people in the white heat. For 99% of them, it was just that: Turn on the radio, listen to somebody say something you agree with, vent your anger.
Now,libs will say he didnt mention Rush.But keep in mind back then there was ONLY Rush.There was no FOX news,no blogs,no right wing talk radio,it was Rush and only Rush.The comments were CLEARLY made towards Rush.Again,this was 1995,there were no Hannitys or Levins it was Rush Limbaugh almost alone at least on a national scale.Clinton was targetting Rush and blamiing him.
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Yup. I remember when Clinton said the "angry voices" nonsense.
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Janet Reno Told President Clinton "If You Don't Appoint Me, I'm Gonna Tell The Truth About Waco"
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Which is probably that Delta Force was used.
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I think we talked about this before....CAG guys got a crash course in the use of Armored vehicles at Hood. The raid was disaster and can be laid at the feet of the ATF and Reno and then by extension Clinton. If Delta was used it was to end a bad situation. The bull dyke and the left love the OKC bombing story because they think they can lay it all at the feet of the Right, the gun nuts, the military etc etc.....
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Obama did it
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Obama did it
No,but if he and his followers continue to insult,run rough shod over,tarnish,lie and smear the tea parties, he will be to blame if another nut finally has enough and does something.If your accused of spitting at people when you didnt, and are accused of using racial slurs when you didnt,eventually you will have enough of that crap and snap.Of course that his plan and hope so he can crack down even more on the rights of Americans.
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Obama did it
No, the real first "black president", Clinton, did it.
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No,but if he and his followers continue to insult,run rough shod over,tarnish,lie and smear the tea parties, he will be to blame if another nut finally has enough and does something.If your accused of spitting at people when you didnt, and are accused of using racial slurs when you didnt,eventually you will have enough of that crap and snap.Of course that his plan and hope so he can crack down even more on the rights of Americans.
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Better get a little larger then that.A mean face wont cut it.Ever see me?I could scare the paint off a house.Ugly mean faces wont get the job done,because Im uglier.
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Better get a little larger then that.A mean face wont cut it.Ever see me?I could scare the paint off a house.Ugly mean faces wont get the job done,because Im uglier.
i can make a pretty ugly face as well...real ugly..will post later on
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i can make a pretty ugly face as well...real ugly..will post later on
Ha,ha, unfortunately I dont have to try.lol.
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all you have to do is look at me when im doin my 8th rep of deads with 405...Instant ugly face
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all you have to do is look at me when im doin my 8th rep of deads with 405...Instant ugly face
From failing at the first rep? :o :o :o :o
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From failing at the first rep? :o :o :o :o
Of 405??
Dude im 235lbs...with long ass arms..if i cant do 405 10 times im not worth being on getbig
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Ha ha. i was only kidding. dude - Guru from Gang Star died today. :-[ :-[ :-[
He was one of my favs and felt that really only him and KRS really got the feel of the streets in NYC.
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all you have to do is look at me when im doin my 8th rep of deads with 405...Instant ugly face
You should see mine when Im on the toilet,red faced,sweat pouring down and enough face wrinkles to look like a bulldog.
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You should see mine when Im on the toilet,red faced,sweat pouring down and enough face wrinkles to look like a bulldog.
try eating some veggies occassionally
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try eating some veggies occassionally
No thanks.I vowed when I was a kid that once I moved out I wouldnt eat vegetables and I havent eaten one in about 26 years.
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No thanks.I vowed when I was a kid that once I moved out I wouldnt eat vegetables and I havent eaten one in about 26 years.
All I can say is "Damn"!
It explains a lot about your political views.
You ignore the fact that vegetables promote health in the mind and body?
I hope that the person in charge of your kitchen is introducing veggies into your children's lives.
Sandra
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All I can say is "Damn"!
It explains a lot about your political views.
You ignore the fact that vegetables promote health in the mind and body?
I hope that the person in charge of your kitchen is introducing veggies into your children's lives.
Sandra
I don't eat those things very much either and I'm a vegetarian. :) Eat losts of fruit, but not the disgusting vegetables.
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All I can say is "Damn"!
It explains a lot about your political views.
You ignore the fact that vegetables promote health in the mind and body?
I hope that the person in charge of your kitchen is introducing veggies into your children's lives.
Sandra
Im 46 with zero health problems and still strong as a bull.I have been hearing for years,"you wont make it past 35" then "you wont make it past 40" then "you wont make it past 45".Still here,no problems,no vegetables,no fruit,steroids for 23 years.Im not worried about it.
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When was the last time that you had a physical?
Sandra
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BILLY, you're 300+ with abs, correct? All around big dude.
Crazy aggressive political beliefs aside, he's a star powerlifter.
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BILLY, you're 300+ with abs, correct? All around big dude.
Crazy aggressive political beliefs aside, he's a star powerlifter.
FFFFFFAAAAAARRRRRR from a star powerlifter.I used to be good,now Im just hanging on.LOTS of injuries.Im competing this weekend and in the last 15 years I dont think Ive ever opened with less then 700 in the deadlift,this wekend Im opening with 500 and thats IF I get past the squats.Im just super banged up,back problems,coming back from a ruptured patella tendon,torn peck and ruptured bicep tendon.Its been a struggle.
I had a physical last Dec.
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I just watched part of a documentary on the bombing. I wish they could bring that monster back to life so we could execute him again. >:(
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I just watched part of a documentary on the bombing. I wish they could bring that monster back to life so we could execute him again. >:(
I wish we could get Janet Reno and Bill Clinton and try them for treason and the murders of over 78 people then take them out into the middle of Washington and hang them until their inards spew out of their assholes.
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I wish we could get Janet Reno and Bill Clinton and try them for treason and the murders of over 78 people then take them out into the middle of Washington and hang them until their inards spew out of their assholes.
Whatever Clinton and Reno did or didn't do in no way justified McVeigh's murder of innocents in Oklahoma. Here is what that animal had to say about his victims:
"These people in Oklahoma City that lost loved ones, I'm sorry. But you know what? You have to accept it and move on." Addressing the families directly, McVeigh said: "You're not the first grandparent to lose a granddaughter or a grandson. I'll use the phrase — and it sounds cold, but I'm sorry, I'm going to use it, because it's the truth — get over it."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100420/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1692
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Whatever Clinton and Reno did or didn't do in no way justified McVeigh's murder of innocents in Oklahoma. Here is what that animal had to say about his victims:
"These people in Oklahoma City that lost loved ones, I'm sorry. But you know what? You have to accept it and move on." Addressing the families directly, McVeigh said: "You're not the first grandparent to lose a granddaughter or a grandson. I'll use the phrase — and it sounds cold, but I'm sorry, I'm going to use it, because it's the truth — get over it."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100420/ts_ynews/ynews_ts1692
Once again,McVeigh paid for his crimes with his life.When will Clinton or Reno pay for theirs?In fact we have to see this girl Clinton STILL try to blame Rush when it was HIS administrations fault.McVeigh didnt even listen to Rush AT ALL.He was pissed off about WACO.He said it himself.Nothing justifies what he did,BUT he was killed for it.Im waiting for these bleeding heart libs who piss and moan and cry for the victims of Oklahoma city to cry for the 28 kids Reno and Clinto burned alive.Ive NEVER heard it!Nor do I expect to,because its perfectly fine for libs to murder innocent people as long as the innocent people were "religious".In fact,I think libs praise it.
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Once again,McVeigh paid for his crimes with his life.When will Clinton or Reno pay for theirs?In fact we have to see this #### Clinton STILL try to blame Rush when it was HIS administrations fault.McVeigh didnt even listen to Rush AT ALL.He was pissed off about WACO.He said it himself.Nothing justifies what he did,BUT he was killed for it.Im waiting for these bleeding heart libs who piss and moan and cry for the victims of Oklahoma city to cry for the 28 kids Reno and Clinto burned alive.Ive NEVER heard it!Nor do I expect to,because its perfectly fine for libs to murder innocent people as long as the innocent people were "religious".In fact,I think libs praise it.
I can't speak for liberals and their views on Waco, although I do think Vernon Howell was a child molesting murderer. I was only talking about McVeigh. Sounds like we agree about him.