from judging point front bi and lats spread are most important poses these 2 poses cleary defined bodybuilders shape and symmitry.side tries and bie,s dont even count.yes i can agree with u on his abs and thigh pose.he looks very impressive.
i also agree with u that he is hard to beat in his weight catagory but winning overall or even making top 6 is totaly different ball game in pro circut.ur basic symmitry has to be extra ordinary.
i really want to see one good bodybuilder in ifbb pro circut from this part of the world.i dont think tabraizi will be the one.he is only 88kg and his shape is falling apart what will happened when he gain few lb to hit pro rank.
ali i think u really know ur game when it comes to conditioning of the body but u can not change ones genetics.
guys i refer whome i think have better genetics than both tabraizi and sami should get ur help.
First of all let me say
I appreciate you honesty and respect your point of view
you have 7 or 8 compulsory poses and each are judged equally
you cant just judge on a front double bi or front lat spread (thats y the challenge round didnt work at the MR. O)
Ai has very good symmetry maybe a little flaw ... but he compensates that by mass and condition
he already won the world overall and for the pro Rank
he will look much better and he can still beat a lot of the top guys
he can even win small shows if it is not under 202lbs
I mean if Darrem won I dont know 7or 8 shows than Ali and Sami can defiantly do better
and his is not what I am saying this is what everyone said when they saw Darrem in Qatar
I said it before
Pro bodybuilders are not gods
and there are still number of people better than some of the pros but they never got the chance to hit a pro stage or dont know how to dial it in cause lack of resources (finance, Drugs, Knowledge and politics)
I still dont get it why you say Alis shape is failing
these are some of his pix in Korea this year and look at how he Improves every year and tell me why you think he is failing
anyone can still gain certain amount of weight without messing out the symmetry
sami gained 35lbs in 2 years yet he kept his symmetry + condition (even better than before) and his waist size didnt change (it actually got smaller)
so it is doable
but some pro give size a bad name and come in pregnant just to say they are 10 or 20 lbs heavier
which never meant shit to me
I go by the mirror (thanks Shawn) and that has worked great for all of the guys whom I worked with
Wong gains about 8-10lbs every contest prep we do
why do you think is that
he keeps all the symmetry, waist and condition aspect same as previous pre or better with more size to his frame
About the guys you that you think are better than Ali and Sami
email me their pix and what you and they have in mind
I am always willing to help my fellow Asians and wish they do very well in the Amateur and pro ranks
Is he planning on turning pro and joining the IFBB (I assume he won a pro card, right)?
He was offered a pro card in 06
but the Qatar federation wanted him to stay with the amateurs
however in 07
Some Qatar bodybuilders failed the doping test (Not Ali or any of the bodybuilder he was training) and the ABBF decided to ban the whole team
so he was stuck in between
and then they applied for his pro card but the IFBB said that cause his papers were submitted from the Qatar team they cant process it
so things are still pending
ali should be a pro already. perfect time for him to have a shot at the under 202lbs, as u said. he would beat a slightly-off lee priest, if not an on lee priest. the guy's back is similar to victor martinez and arnold schwarzenegger, in the detail. that's what a back should look like.
if u guys are talking about kamal el gargni, i have a question. he was competing in the ifbb pro ranks around 2003, and muscletime even did a photoshoot with him. but his last contest was with the npc, so does that mean ifbb amateurs can compete in the npc as well?
Ya
Kamal did the NOC in 03 and did have a fight with Wayne
cause he was placed out of the top 15
then he was brought to Qatar by the Ex-trainer of Qatar Bodybuilding (who is Libyan like Kamal)
the trainer was fired after he failed the entire team in the world championship in 2003 India
After the World Championship 07 Korea
Kamal went to Italy and did the NPC Excalibur 2007 show and won the light heavy weight
he got banned for 2 years
anyway but even though he was banned he did and NPC show
now thats miscommunication
