How much did Paul Anderson actually really ever legitimatly squat

[Sexybeast777]

Wrong it doesn’t make you a better person for not taking steroids

I’m not a worse person for using steroids as compared to when I wasn’t

Matter of opinion if it’s cheating
& depending in what you compete in there may not even test or have rules against steroid usage.

yes but there's a moral component to all this, you are hurting your body by taking steroids, and this is wrong, if that's what you wanna do, be my guest, but don't act like ''you are not doing anything wrong''

[illuminati]

yes but there's a moral component to all this, you are hurting your body by taking steroids, and this is wrong, if that's what you wanna do, be my guest, but don't act like ''you are not doing anything wrong''

There isn’t any moral component at all
Only the ones self imposed

And what exactly am I doing wrong

As for hurting ones body - Come on Really that’s the best you can say.
The list of everyday things that are know to be far more damaging to the human body
Is very very long - Are they Morally wrong & cheating if they aid performance.

How many millions of men & women & children throughout the world are taking prescribed
Steroids ( my young son included for years on end )
So these Nasty steroids will aid & benefit those having them prescribed
And damage us that don’t have them prescribed.
Very clever these steroids.

[Sexybeast777]

There isn’t any moral component at all
Only the ones self imposed

And what exactly am I doing wrong

As for hurting ones body - Come on Really that’s the best you can say.
The list of everyday things that are know to be far more damaging to the human body
Is very very long - Are they Morally wrong & cheating if they aid performance.

How many millions of men & women & children throughout the world are taking prescribed
Steroids ( my young son included for years on end )
So these Nasty steroids will aid & benefit those having them prescribed
And damage us that don’t have them prescribed.
Very clever these steroids.

also there's the legality aspect of this, steroids are illegal, which means it's wrong

[illuminati]

also there's the legality aspect of this, steroids are illegal, which means it's wrong

You are not doing very well are you.
You’re unable to refute what I have said or provide any conclusive proof or argument

And yet again you make a wrong statement - Depending in which country you are living in
steroids May be perfectly legal to buy & use.

[Sexybeast777]

You are not doing very well are you.
You’re unable to refute what I have said or provide any conclusive proof or argument

And yet again you make a wrong statement - Depending in which country you are living in
steroids May be perfectly legal to buy & use.

just admit it, taking steroids is wrong and it's cheating

[illuminati]

just admit it, taking steroids is wrong and it's cheating

Ha ha ha

Game over
Clearly you’ve lost the debate

No logical / rational answers just rhetoric.

Taking steroids is good & not wrong.

You are more than likely also a religious person at a guess.

End of conversation.

[Sexybeast777]

Ha ha ha

Game over
Clearly you’ve lost the debate

No logical / rational answers just rhetoric.

Taking steroids is good & not wrong.

You are more than likely also a religious person at a guess.

End of conversation.

yes I'm Christian, why? is this bad? Jesus is Lord

[be back]

yes I'm Christian, why? is this bad? Jesus is Lord

why did God invent steroids?

[oldgolds]

yes but there's a moral component to all this, you are hurting your body by taking steroids, and this is wrong, if that's what you wanna do, be my guest, but don't act like ''you are not doing anything wrong''

And....People taking them are phonies/posers and generally liars.....I hate posers and liars.....

[thebrink]

Better question. Are there any getbiggerz stronger than Paul Anderson??

[illuminati]

And....People taking them are phonies/posers and generally liars.....I hate posers and liars.....

I use PEDs and i’m Neither Phony / Poser or a Liar

Likely as Much or Less than you are.
As I don’t think I’m above or better than others who don’t use PEDs

[Sexybeast777]

why did God invent steroids?

God did NOT invent steroids, men did

[AbrahamG]

Paul Anderson was a fucking lard ass.

[Sexybeast777]

Paul Anderson was a fucking lard ass.

and that was his secret for his strength

[oldgolds]

I use PEDs and i’m Neither Phony / Poser or a Liar

Likely as Much or Less than you are.
As I don’t think I’m above or better than others who don’t use PEDs

Fake body dependent on a regular supply of drugs=poser/phony...
People ask if you take steroids and you deny it=liar.......

[illuminati]

Fake body dependent on a regular supply of drugs=poser/phony...
People ask if you take steroids and you deny it=liar.......

Hmmm if you say so.

Wrong people ask me if I use steroids I tell them Yes
I’m a adult & make a choice to use them
I have no need or desire to lie to people about it

You have zero idea how I look physique wise
And as of now no one has noticed if I’m using
& when i’m Not using.

Are you Mentally retarded / special needs
As you come across that you are.

[Sexybeast777]

only true natties have dignity, people who cheat have NO dignity

[be back]

only true natties have dignity, people who cheat have NO dignity

is taking any medication cheating?

[illuminati]

is taking any medication cheating?

This is my point exactly

To many of these “Naturals” there hypocrisy is beyond baffling
Taking prescribed medication is ok & not harmful & not cheating 

[Sexybeast777]

is taking any medication cheating?

medication is ok because sometimes it's needed (but it's best to avoid, if  possible)

[The Scott]

is taking any medication cheating?

Seriously?  This reeks of pure desperation.  Why would you, an otherwise intelligent man proffer such a question?  It is ridiculous to have done so. The only point it makes is that you had no point to make.

Do you wish to know a simple answer to your question? Okay...Some medication helps you to cheat death.  Some to cheat illness.  All to cheat the fates, if you will.  The same is true of surgery. 

Everyone here knows the point all too well that most folk consider taking anabolic steroids to be (at least) to some degree, cheating.  And we all know why.   To some degree it is. Even when "everyone" is taking them.  Why?   Because not everyone is.  And so it becomes not a matter of it is what it is, but rather it is what we choose to make of it.

Coleman made a mess of it. Fuck him.  He deserves his hell on Earf.  I would say the majority of those here that do take AAS do not deserve the fate of Coleman.    Because taking AAS like today's "pros" do does not make you an idiot. What it does is make you a larger idiot.

Agree to disagree in an agreeable manner, lads!

Or not!   

[be back]

also there's the legality aspect of this, steroids are illegal, which means it's wrong

Err illegal means they are illegal but it doesn't mean its wrong....

You are mixing law and morals...

[Sokolsky]

Getbig menza loosing its shit over whether chemical enhancements is cheating:

Simply put: no

Anyone in any field of competition is looking for a competitive edge (those who are not are not competing or competitive and should not be considered as such), by looking for a competitive edge by default people will attempt to differentiate themselves from others thus an equal or level playing field is not applicable. Meaning that those who actually go through the effort of shooting things in their body are simply willing to take more drastic steps.

Sanctioned medical aids is a shady field to begin with and we've seen many dynamic shifts in banning of substances or lifting of bans depending on degrees of abuse. You can't possibly argue that prescription drug-use does not provide an edge, because it does, or they wouldn't be taking it.

In any case, does it matter? no. If I want to see people run 60m dashes in 20 seconds I'll go by the local high-school. Same applies for all sports.
As far as people using substances in the gym, that's up to them, it's recreational and not directed at sports. If they then act as if they're better or flaunt their "gainzzz" they're simply acting as moronic fools, as they perceive competition that is simply not there and only in their minds, which means they're insecure and delusional.

[illuminati]

Seriously?  This reeks of pure desperation.  Why would you, an otherwise intelligent man proffer such a question?  It is ridiculous to have done so. The only point it makes is that you had no point to make.

Do you wish to know a simple answer to your question? Okay...Some medication helps you to cheat death.  Some to cheat illness.  All to cheat the fates, if you will.  The same is true of surgery.  

Everyone here knows the point all too well that most folk consider taking anabolic steroids to be (at least) to some degree, cheating.  And we all know why.   To some degree it is. Even when "everyone" is taking them.  Why?   Because not everyone is.  And so it becomes not a matter of it is what it is, but rather it is what we choose to make of it.

Coleman made a mess of it. Fuck him.  He deserves his hell on Earf.  I would say the majority of those here that do take AAS do not deserve the fate of Coleman.    Because taking AAS like today's "pros" do does not make you an idiot. What it does is make you a larger idiot.

Agree to disagree in an agreeable manner, lads!

Or not!  

We will have to agree to disagree on this subject

As I’ve had “success “ Both as a “Natural” & when taking
PEDs - I don’t think I was cheated on by those whom likely
Were using when I wasn’t & Ive Zero thoughts or feelings of
I cheated when using.

How do we square the circle. ?
Are students studying for exams Cheating
When they use Smart drugs to stay focused
caffeine & other stimulants to keep awake
And study for exams.
As they are boosting & exceeding What their
Minds & bodies can do “Naturally”

So let’s now label all the doctors & academics
Cheats if they used those drugs
And let’s ban them Because they didn’t do it
“Naturally”

Man has sought to find food / drink / herbs / chemicals
To boost & increase his “Natural” Level of performance
Since Day one.
It is inbuilt & part of mankind.

To those of you who choose not to use PEDs & specifically
Those related to getting bigger & stronger
Good for you - I’m happy for you

Though you are not a better person than Me or others
That choose to use them.

Stop with the holier than thou Nonsense
It’s deeming to your intelligence

Enjoy what you are doing ( or not doing )
And leave others to enjoy doing as they wish
With Their Bodies.



  phew - I’ve written nearly as much as Matt or esf  

[be back]

We will have to agree to disagree on this subject

As I’ve had “success “ Both as a “Natural” & when taking
PEDs - I don’t think I was cheated on by those whom likely
Were using when I wasn’t & Ive Zero thoughts or feelings of
I cheated when using.

How do we square the circle. ?
Are students studying for exams Cheating
When they use Smart drugs to stay focused
caffeine & other stimulants to keep awake
And study for exams.
As they are boosting & exceeding What their
Minds & bodies can do “Naturally”

So let’s now label all the doctors & academics
Cheats if they used those drugs
And let’s ban them Because they didn’t do it
“Naturally”

Man has sought to find food / drink / herbs / chemicals
To boost & increase his “Natural” Level of performance
Since Day one.
It is inbuilt & part of mankind.

To those of you who choose not to use PEDs & specifically
Those related to getting bigger & stronger
Good for you - I’m happy for you

Though you are not a better person than Me or others
That choose to use them.

Stop with the holier than thou Nonsense
It’s deeming to your intelligence

Enjoy what you are doing ( or not doing )
And leave others to enjoy doing as they wish
With Their Bodies.



  phew - I’ve written nearly as much as Matt or esf  

Difference is yours makes sense...