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Would be interested to Chris Aceto or other gurus might think.
Here's my suggestion - stop all insulin entirely, and indeed all drugs entirely for next 5 months - but keep the training and cardio.
7 month build up to Mr O. Stay super lean throughout. Stick to basic "classic cycle". Test, HGH, and then tren with a few orals mixed in, and go hard on the clen last 4 weeks and diuretics last 48 hours. Come in around 8kg lighter by Muntzerlike conditioning
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stopping all drugs for 5 months he will e 180 lbs max ::) ::) ::)
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Would be interested to Chris Aceto or other gurus might think.
Here's my suggestion - stop all insulin entirely, and indeed all drugs entirely for next 5 months - but keep the training and cardio.
7 month build up to Mr O. Stay super lean throughout. Stick to basic "classic cycle". Test, HGH, and then tren with a few orals mixed in, and go hard on the clen last 4 weeks and diuretics last 48 hours. Come in around 8kg lighter by Muntzerlike conditioning
Phil has read this and has taken it on board.
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Cretin.
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His gut is busted out from a hernia, he's had 2 operations to fix it, it still looks bad. Nothing is putting the genie back in the bottle.
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Roelly had a gigantic stomach (even Rhodens was bad at least one of the years) and though it isn't great now it definitely has slimmed down so something must be able to be done it seems.
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Needs to add creatine to his stack.
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he needs to join gh15 in the quest for the NQK (november quality kigs)
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His receptors are saturated like all the bodybuilders who gas year round for 10 years or more. His body is maxed out. He’s showing signs of palumboism. There’s nothing he can do but switch to free weights and lay off the insulin. But he’ll shrink fast because he’s not bigger than you or me off the candy.
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His receptors are saturated like all the bodybuilders who gas year round for 10 years or more. His body is maxed out. He’s showing signs of palumboism. There’s nothing he can do but switch to free weights and lay off the insulin. But he’ll shrink fast because he’s not bigger than you or me off the candy.
I reckon he'd need a year or 2 off everything besides a low test dosage to have a chance of recovering his structure a little. I'd also keep the food low to shrink the stomach and do some detox stuff that flushes all the shit out. I think it should be possible to reverse palumboism as long as it doesn't get to the terminal level. Phillipe's head, nose and jaw growth shows he's been abusing things very, very hard.
If he comes back blasting next year the palumboism will be edging closer to lennyism.
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Get 2 ribs removed surgically, also liposuction around the love handles.
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I reckon he'd need a year or 2 off everything besides a low test dosage to have a chance of recovering his structure a little. I'd also keep the food low to shrink the stomach and do some detox stuff that flushes all the shit out. I think it should be possible to reverse palumboism as long as it doesn't get to the terminal level. Phillipe's head, nose and jaw growth shows he's been abusing things very, very hard.
If he comes back blasting next year the palumboism will be edging closer to lennyism.
Get real. The moment these guys change their drug stack, they shrink. He’s a prisoner to his unholy concoction of pharmaceuticals, like Jay and Ronnie were when they started shooting oil because the drugs weren’t working anymore. Mental illness.
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Get real. The moment these guys change their drug stack, they shrink. He’s a prisoner to his unholy concoction of pharmaceuticals, like Jay and Ronnie were when they started shooting oil because the drugs weren’t working anymore. Mental illness.
to go off and shrink is probably the only way to fix palumboism as it is most likely caused by the industrial amounts of slin and hgh he uses.
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Male corset
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He can up the dose I guess
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to go off and shrink is probably the only way to fix palumboism as it is most likely caused by the industrial amounts of slin and hgh he uses.
Organs don’t shrink once they’re grown by GH. See Ronnie’s and Dave’s stomachs today. GH and slin are bad news.
He can up the dose I guess
See: point of diminishing returns. It won’t help. His receptors are SHOT.
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Organs don’t shrink once they’re grown by GH. See Ronnie’s and Dave’s stomachs today. GH and slin are bad news.
See: point of diminishing returns. It won’t help. His receptors are SHOT.
Palumbo's stomach is nonexistent, he's a skeleton
Dorian said he did a scan of his entire body and had no organ growth. Ronnie is still on hgh for sure, so cant really use him as a example here.
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Palumbo's stomach is nonexistent, he's a skeleton
Dorian said he did a scan of his entire body and had no organ growth. Ronnie is still on hgh for sure, so cant really use him as a example here.
He shrank, so his stomach did too. He still has a gut.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/09/0e09d44fea9acdea9d9d32f38617ef7c.jpg)
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He shrank, so his stomach did too. He still has a gut.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/09/0e09d44fea9acdea9d9d32f38617ef7c.jpg)
His gut looks pretty flat here and he's skinnier now.
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increase b12 dose.
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He can easily come back and win he just needs to come in lighter and keep the gut in check, the main issue is the gut and his waist it throws him off from the front poses. I think he can come back and win around 8-10 lbs lighter, I personally prefer Rhodens build, but I can see Phil getting motivated and ripped next year and pulling it back
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3 points between 1st and 2nd
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I reckon he'd need a year or 2 off everything besides a low test dosage to have a chance of recovering his structure a little. I'd also keep the food low to shrink the stomach and do some detox stuff that flushes all the shit out. I think it should be possible to reverse palumboism as long as it doesn't get to the terminal level. Phillipe's head, nose and jaw growth shows he's been abusing things very, very hard.
If he comes back blasting next year the palumboism will be edging closer to lennyism.
I fully agree with this. And a shrunken Phil will actually look super hard and tight when he blows up again. Problem is that mentally these guys struggle with the thought of shrinking.
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Phil's done
palumboism irreversible, esp when the gut is affected
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It has nothing to do with the drugs.
Phil just needs to use more free weights.
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Phil does go lighter in the off season, he’s one of the few that grows into the show
He hits the gas hard months out of the O
True off season form he’s not very impressive, does it to give his body a break from the hard stuff
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Phil does go lighter in the off season, he’s one of the few that grows into the show
He hits the gas hard months out of the O
True off season form he’s not very impressive, does it to give his body a break from the hard stuff
True. That has been a key to his success. But I think he should take an even longer break and then blow up on hard training + basic steroid compounds and drop the insulin entirely. He could come back leaner and grainy.
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Would be interested to Chris Aceto or other gurus might think.
Here's my suggestion - stop all insulin entirely, and indeed all drugs entirely for next 5 months - but keep the training and cardio.
7 month build up to Mr O. Stay super lean throughout. Stick to basic "classic cycle". Test, HGH, and then tren with a few orals mixed in, and go hard on the clen last 4 weeks and diuretics last 48 hours. Come in around 8kg lighter by Muntzerlike conditioning
I'm sure Chris, who actually was a pretty accomplished bber back in the day, and has worked with some of the best bbers in the world, will take your vast knowledge and experience to heart. Especially the "get off everything for five months" and "stick to the basics" pearls of wisdom. Your insights I'm sure will accomplish the transformation that eluded Chris and Phil this year. I can only imagine the list of champs you could turn out year after year if only you were given the opportunity and others would recognize your genius.
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He will never achieve his best physique ever again (that ship has sailed) but if the other competitors come in worse he could still steal a win. If Kai Green comes to the Mr. O in shape Phil can forget it.
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I'm sure Chris, who actually was a pretty accomplished bber back in the day, and has worked with some of the best bbers in the world, will take your vast knowledge and experience to heart. Especially the "get off everything for five months" and "stick to the basics" pearls of wisdom. Your insights I'm sure will accomplish the transformation that eluded Chris and Phil this year. I can only imagine the list of champs you could turn out year after year if only you were given the opportunity and others would recognize your genius.
Chris didn’t work with Phil this year. He can’t stand Phil (as a person and considers him to be an arrogant asshole, although he does have huge respect for Phil in prime and as a competitor).
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He will never achieve his best physique ever again (that ship has sailed) but if the other competitors come in worse he could still steal a win. If Kai Green comes to the Mr. O in shape Phil can forget it.
I'm sure Kai has been regretting not competing anymore. He really, really wanted that title and it was within reach. If he just kept at it like Jay I think he could have pulled it off. But, who am I? It's a huge sacrifice and commitment in so many ways and Kai is pulling some serious ching so maybe it's time to just enjoy life.
But, he's got to be thinking, "Rhoden? How could have predicted?" When you think of all the greats that have tried and failed and there's Shawn Rhoden standing there with that droopy face holding up the Sandow it's really mind-boggling. Rhoden never dominated the scene. Never had that superstar quality that Flex, Levrone, Dillet, Cormier, Ramy, Kai, Munzer, Nasser, Shawn Ray... the list is endless.
But there he is holding up the Sandow. And considering what was on stage, it was well deserved. I'm sure so many out there now are as inspired and hungry as hell that they too have a very real chance. And unless Rhoden can get some serious arms and back he might just be another Dex.
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Chris didn’t work with Phil this year. He can’t stand Phil (as a person and considers him to be an arrogant asshole, although he does have huge respect for Phil in prime and as a competitor).
You're right. I was still thinking of Rhoden.
Never mind. Just being a dick.
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You're right. I was still thinking of Rhoden.
Never mind. Just being a dick.
No probs! Im a fan if yours pellius. All good bro.
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The O really is wide open now
Who’s next?
Ramy, Curry, rolly, kuclo, Olivia jr, or an unknown??
Next year will be interesting, I bet a lot of guys are going to go for it even some coming out of “retirement” like branch and Wolfe haha
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I believe its unfix able. It’s like the ten year time clock until the physique declines no matter what after the hard years of usage.
Like abusing rec drugs after years u just don’t really get high
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Would be interested to Chris Aceto or other gurus might think.
Here's my suggestion - stop all insulin entirely, and indeed all drugs entirely for next 5 months - but keep the training and cardio.
7 month build up to Mr O. Stay super lean throughout. Stick to basic "classic cycle". Test, HGH, and then tren with a few orals mixed in, and go hard on the clen last 4 weeks and diuretics last 48 hours. Come in around 8kg lighter by Muntzerlike conditioning
In order to achive Muntzer-like condition your liver and stomach have to be disintegrated in the process. Therefore, 300mg/daily of methylated orals non-stop for at least one year on an empty stomach
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I believe its unfix able. It’s like the ten year time clock until the physique declines no matter what after the hard years of usage.
Like abusing rec drugs after years u just don’t really get high
This is it. As an athlete, you're on your way up, peak, then you're on your way down. No one escapes this. You can drag it on a bit depending on the competition but everyone will see it is coming to an end. The last one is always the competitor himself.
Phil will be back next year but he is not going to pull a Jay. Jay was only 36 which is still the peak years for a bber. And there are so many guys on their way up now that Phil will be swept to the side.
He had a good run. Seven times Mr. O is a huge accomplishment.
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Chris didn’t work with Phil this year. He can’t stand Phil (as a person and considers him to be an arrogant asshole, although he does have huge respect for Phil in prime and as a competitor).
Who can stand working with Phil, beside Hiney Titjob?
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This is it. As an athlete, you're on your way up, peak, then you're on your way down. No one escapes this. You can drag it on a bit depending on the competition but everyone will see it is coming to an end. The last one is always the competitor himself.
Phil will be back next year but he is not going to pull a Jay. Jay was only 36 which is still the peak years for a bber. And there are so many guys on their way up now that Phil will be swept to the side.
He had a good run. Seven times Mr. O is a huge accomplishment.
GOOD LAST FEW POSTS PELLIUS...he will probably lose a place or 2 next yr then out of top 6 if he goes 3 more years ...like jay.ronnie did...
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Who can stand working with Phil, beside Hiney Titjob?
Handy rimrod
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The best he can do involves a combo of various types of fasting, vacuum exercises, waist trainers, exercises that strengthen his Transverse Ab's. Stop all drugs except for probably test, various massages 3 times per week. Then 16 weeks out do what he does one more time.
Theres clearly something wrong he hasn't told the public otherwise it'd be fixed.
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Poor Phil
Gave up on basketball when he realized he had no talent for it
Gave up on being a husband and stepfather-of course after he used his ex wife’s cancer to further his career
Gave up on owning a supplement company when his company did horribly
And most recently, gave up on bodybuilding when he only had 1 job to do and failed at it. Imagine having the whole year to practice for your job and you screwed it up-so yet another thing he screwed up and failed at.
I’m worried Phillip was counting on his Olympia winnings for bills, mortgage, car payments, groceries, etc.
Should we start a GoFundMe to help Phillip?
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worried about natty wonder wonderin about fail hath
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The best he can do involves a combo of various types of fasting, vacuum exercises, waist trainers, exercises that strengthen his Transverse Ab's. Stop all drugs except for probably test, various massages 3 times per week. Then 16 weeks out do what he does one more time.
Theres clearly something wrong he hasn't told the public otherwise it'd be fixed.
he should take up jogging like when he was running on the beach in that movie
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This is it. As an athlete, you're on your way up, peak, then you're on your way down. No one escapes this. You can drag it on a bit depending on the competition but everyone will see it is coming to an end. The last one is always the competitor himself.
Phil will be back next year but he is not going to pull a Jay. Jay was only 36 which is still the peak years for a bber. And there are so many guys on their way up now that Phil will be swept to the side.
He had a good run. Seven times Mr. O is a huge accomplishment.
Phil is 38, so the age difference is marginal. We also know that Jay came back because he didn't have any serious competition at the time. The moment Phil put the finishing touch on his physique, Jay was done. In fact, he was done the moment he started shooting so much oil in his arms that there was no denying that his expiry date had come up and it was time to shove aside. He made Nasser look anti-Synthol by comparison with those mushy arms.
(https://www.vegasnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Phil-Heath-and-Jay-Cutler-588.jpg)
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Poor Phil
Gave up on basketball when he realized he had no talent for it
Gave up on being a husband and stepfather-of course after he used his ex wife’s cancer to further his career
Gave up on owning a supplement company when his company did horribly
And most recently, gave up on bodybuilding when he only had 1 job to do and failed at it. Imagine having the whole year to practice for your job and you screwed it up-so yet another thing he screwed up and failed at.
I’m worried Phillip was counting on his Olympia winnings for bills, mortgage, car payments, groceries, etc.
Should we start a GoFundMe to help Phillip?
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He would just waste the money on expensive sneakers and purses.
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Poor Phil
Gave up on basketball when he realized he had no talent for it
Gave up on being a husband and stepfather-of course after he used his ex wife’s cancer to further his career
Gave up on owning a supplement company when his company did horribly
And most recently, gave up on bodybuilding when he only had 1 job to do and failed at it. Imagine having the whole year to practice for your job and you screwed it up-so yet another thing he screwed up and failed at.
I’m worried Phillip was counting on his Olympia winnings for bills, mortgage, car payments, groceries, etc.
Should we start a GoFundMe to help Phillip?
Denver Univ + Brown Noser + Westminster = Phil will be ok after bodybuilding. I'm not sure that chick will stay with him though.
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Phil is 38, so the age difference is marginal. We also know that Jay came back because he didn't have any serious competition at the time. The moment Phil put the finishing touch on his physique, Jay was done. In fact, he was done the moment he started shooting so much oil in his arms that there was no denying that his expiry date had come up and it was time to shove aside. He made Nasser look anti-Synthol by comparison with those mushy arms.
(https://www.vegasnews.com/wp-content/uploads/Phil-Heath-and-Jay-Cutler-588.jpg)
It's not so much age per se. It's how you hold up. Phil's physique has been on the decline for several years. Look at guys like Jay and Branch, how their quads get smaller, hips appear wider, arms smaller, gut softer. Your body changes with age.
If he's able to get rid of that gut and really make a dramatic improvement in that area then that will definitely catch the judge's eye and he will be rewarded for that.
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he should take up jogging like when he was running on the beach in that movie
He was running on the road, not the beach.
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It's not so much age per se. It's how you hold up. Phil's physique has been on the decline for several years. Look at guys like Jay and Branch, how their quads get smaller, hips appear wider, arms smaller, gut softer. Your body changes with age.
If he's able to get rid of that gut and really make a dramatic improvement in that area then that will definitely catch the judge's eye and he will be rewarded for that.
Not a bad point. But he hasn't grown in the past two years, so he's maxed out in terms of how much size he can put on his frame. Conditioning is the only place he can go back to the top, but he hasn't been the most conditioned on stage in a while. This photo is probably Heath at his very best:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9d_cgMfAV4c/hqdefault.jpg)
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Not a bad point. But he hasn't grown in the past two years, so he's maxed out in terms of how much size he can put on his frame. Conditioning is the only place he can go back to the top, but he hasn't been the most conditioned on stage in a while. This photo is probably Heath at his very best:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9d_cgMfAV4c/hqdefault.jpg)
You're exactly right. He's maxed out. He really never had a large frame to pack on tons of muscle. It is amazing how far he was able to take it considering his frame.
I think the IFBB really sent a message choosing Rhoden over Roelly. They're going to emphasize conditioning more. If Phil can do it he can be back in the running. But with Rhoden winning it's really opened the door for others. I think everyone standing there in top five has beaten Rhoden at some open in his career. I know if I were Kai I'd definitely be thinking about getting back in the mix. He can downsize a lot and still be bigger than Rhoden. And, unlike Rhoden (arms/back) Kai has it all. Everything is maxed out.
I'm sure the powers that be see the potential of getting Kai back on stage.