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Keep hearing how deca improves the immune system, also by increasing cd8 cells etc, but has anyone ever experienced this? Ie not ever getting sick while running deca?
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Keep hearing how deca improves the immune system, also by increasing cd8 cells etc, but has anyone ever experienced this? Ie not ever getting sick while running deca?
My recovery is through the roof when I cruise with deca and blast with sweet potatoes.
Seriously though it's awesome.
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I got the worst flu of my life on 750 deca. A brutal 10-day gastrointestinal thing that had me on the toilet 10-20x a day.
Epic sample size, but that's my anecdotal evidence for ya
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Yes. So does EQ.
HTH.
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Not sure if this related or not but a guy I know very well is taking about 700mg/week of Deca (+ the same amount of test) and had an emergency root canal. Afterwards, though given prescriptions for vicodin, motrin, and amoxicillin, he was pleased to find out there was virtually no pain so he didn't take any of that stuff.
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Deca sucks. Well, for me that is. Some people respond well to it and love it. Jus bloat and feeling like ass over here. EQ>Deca
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Not sure if this related or not but a guy I know very well is taking about 700mg/week of Deca (+ the same amount of test) and had an emergency root canal. Afterwards, though given prescriptions for vicodin, motrin, and amoxicillin, he was pleased to find out there was virtually no pain so he didn't take any of that stuff.
Good for him and point made. Not sure about pain but He should at least have taken the amoxicillin to prevent potential infections. He did not and came out ok.
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Deca sucks. Well, for me that is. Some people respond well to it and love it. Jus bloat and feeling like ass over here. EQ>Deca
Opposite for me homes.
Deca gram for gram blows EQ outta the water.
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Opposite for me homes.
Deca gram for gram blows EQ outta the water.
Yea no doubt there but EQ has benefits over deca, depends what your goal is.
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Yea no doubt there but EQ has benefits over deca, depends what your goal is.
For me the difference comes down to whether I wanna look dry or not.
Winter time = deca seasons
Summer time = EQ season.
What do you think?
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For me the difference comes down to whether I wanna look dry or not.
Winter time = deca seasons
Summer time = EQ season.
What do you think?
Right on the money. My experience with Deca is never use it in isolation. Always stack with an androgen. Not the case with EQ.
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For me the difference comes down to whether I wanna look dry or not.
Winter time = deca seasons
Summer time = EQ season.
What do you think?
why not run them both?
alex- what kind of doses you running these days?
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why not run them both?
alex- what kind of doses you running these days?
Maybe eventually try it?? I'm a low doser though man....I don't need to go over 1g total EVER. Always test plus 1 other compound is how I operate.
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would be nice if that were the case but I really doubt it. Although it can't negatively affect it much or they wouldn't have given it to AIDS patients for so long.
it kept me strong and relatively pain free on my HRT dose (had a script for 200mg week before they killed the Florida clinics) but it always makes me look especially bloofy even in low doses. Something weird happens with my subQ water an in a couple of weeks I literally lose every vein on my body
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Opposite for me homes.
Deca gram for gram blows EQ outta the water.
I dont disagree that deca will build far more size on you than EQ. I usually use something more for the look it gives me, build size easy. Dont wanna weigh 250lbs
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Immune function?? Whose cool-aide u been drinking?
DOC
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LOL... another dreamer.
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Immune function?? Whose cool-aide u been drinking?
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Just reading in the clinical trials with deca and HIV patients... I wouldn't call double blind studies "Kool Aide"...
Increasing CD8 cells could lead to anti viral effects
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Just reading in the clinical trials with deca and HIV patients... I wouldn't call double blind studies "Kool Aide"...
Increasing CD8 cells could lead to anti viral effects
Takes more than disrupting CD4/CD8 ratio to alter immune function. Deca does nothing to alter viral load. Additionally there is much less information on exactly if it even alters adaptive vs. innate immunity.
You try the Kool-Aide?
DOC
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Takes more than disrupting CD4/CD8 ratio to alter immune function. Deca does nothing to alter viral load. Additionally there is much less information on exactly if it even alters adaptive vs. innate immunity.
You try the Kool-Aide?
DOC
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What about hgh and its effect on immunity? Any truth to that?
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What about hgh and its effect on immunity? Any truth to that?
Definitely mediated through IGF1 // IGF2. GH is known to stimulate immune function.
DOC
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Takes more than disrupting CD4/CD8 ratio to alter immune function. Deca does nothing to alter viral load. Additionally there is much less information on exactly if it even alters adaptive vs. innate immunity.
You try the Kool-Aide?
DOC
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Takes more than disrupting cd8 to cd4 ration to alter immune function? Wow, that's prob the dumbest thing I ever heard! Tell that to an aids patient! Dumbass. Your just pulled a tbomz, you googled something and don't know shit about it.
Good try "doc"
Prob an ER doc, lol. A glorified triage nurse
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Definitely mediated through IGF1 // IGF2. GH is known to stimulate immune function.
DOC
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Cd8 plays a much larger role in immunity than igf!
Take what this "doc" days with a grain of salt
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Don't no about anti-viral but it worked great for cutting! Watch out for deca dick!
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Takes more than disrupting cd8 to cd4 ration to alter immune function? Wow, that's prob the dumbest thing I ever heard! Tell that to an aids patient! Dumbass. Your just pulled a tbomz, you googled something and don't know shit about it.
Good try "doc"
Prob an ER doc, lol. A glorified triage nurse
Bro-- Why so defensive? Do I detect some penis envy?
M.D. is from Hopkins as is the PhD. in neuromunology.
Boarded in Internal Med. and Neuro. Subspecialty in neuromuscular.
Was Battalion Surgeon for USMC in Desert Storm-- thing was nerve agents.
But that is ok. You just go ahead and drink some more Kool aide. My dick is bigger than your dick anyway. NO HOMO.
DOC
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For me the difference comes down to whether I wanna look dry or not.
Winter time = deca seasons
Summer time = EQ season.
What do you think?
For the average gym rat running moderate doses I don't understand why more wouldn't do the exact opposite. I mean, a lot of guys "bulk" with stuff that increases bloat and end up using ais anyway. For someone eating a lot of carbs/cals when trying to put on weight you'd be able to stay looking better, for much longer with something like eq as opposed to deca.
And if you diet with keto/low carbs/cals the water retaining steroids will help in keeping fullness and training intensity which will come in handy during periods of near starvation...
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I read a study that showed it killed brain cells and essentially made people more stupid. Can't honestly say I never feel run down taking deca. On the other hand mega dosing vitamin c I have found to be effective.
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Eq is the weakest injectable there is lol. Guys run it because they're usually on 5 other compounds and can't even notice the difference. If you're gonna use eq prepare to use 900+ mgs for like 30 weeks and get ready to give blood every other month and possibly never want to have sex again along with the possibility of blowing your GABA receptors down the drain lol. And that's if u actually get real eq.
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Eq is the weakest injectable there is lol. Guys run it because they're usually on 5 other compounds and can't even notice the difference. If you're gonna use eq prepare to use 900+ mgs for like 30 weeks and get ready to give blood every other month and possibly never want to have sex again along with the possibility of blowing your GABA receptors down the drain lol. And that's if u actually get real eq.
Exactly.
This is why I'm running this on its own to see if it does anything at all.
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Eq is the weakest injectable there is lol. Guys run it because they're usually on 5 other compounds and can't even notice the difference. If you're gonna use eq prepare to use 900+ mgs for like 30 weeks and get ready to give blood every other month and possibly never want to have sex again along with the possibility of blowing your GABA receptors down the drain lol. And that's if u actually get real eq.
What's up with the "never wanting to have sex again" part? Test + EQ turns me into a stallion (pun intended)
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What's up with the "never wanting to have sex again" part? Test + EQ turns me into a stallion (pun intended)
bro are you absolutely sure your eq is eq and not test? smell the two, one should smell different than the other. Does the eq smell like leather?
EQ doesn't shut you down like deca dick, it makes you asexual. best eq I ever ran....Eva mendez could of been on my bed and I would rather posted on getbig. fucked me up pretty good.
the guy who mentioned equipoise effecting GABA production in the brain can you go into more detail about this? Curious if van could get some info on the subject. Jizzacked who posts here, also mentioned something about eq killing his sex drive.
This is a very real side effect of EQ by the way, effects alot of people.
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I dont have any first hand accounts of eq affecting gaba in the brain but ive heard of guys who megadosed it having issues in that department someone here with more knowledge can elaborate on this. if you have real eq you dont want to have sex, you can but u dont want to. eq is not worth it all in my opinion
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Bro-- Why so defensive? Do I detect some penis envy?
M.D. is from Hopkins as is the PhD. in neuromunology.
Boarded in Internal Med. and Neuro. Subspecialty in neuromuscular.
Was Battalion Surgeon for USMC in Desert Storm-- thing was nerve agents.
But that is ok. You just go ahead and drink some more Kool aide. My dick is bigger than your dick anyway. NO HOMO.
DOC
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haha! boom! don't bother with 'theworm', he shits himself if there's a 10mg anavar tablet within a 10 mile radius...
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Bump for more info on boldenone's effects on the gaba receptors.
I assume there must be some studies out there on the subject, not something someone pulled out of their ass one day.
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Dan Duchaine wrote that Deca helped the immune system. I haven't researched this myself, but Dan was usually right.
I think most EQ is either fake or impure. A friend used a low dose of EQ by itself for a few weeks and the change was visible. Dry quality gains. This was a few years back when EQ was probably EQ.
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Bump for more info on boldenone's effects on the gaba receptors.
I assume there must be some studies out there on the subject, not something someone pulled out of their ass one day.
I forgot where i read it it was on the boards somewhere. some guy mega dosed a cpl grams of eq (2 or 3) and could never function the same again his gaba receptors in his brains were permanantely fucked so his dopamine or serotonin was affected. im not totally sure of the specifics i really wish someone else could chime in as well.
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I forgot where i read it it was on the boards somewhere. some guy mega dosed a cpl grams of eq (2 or 3) and could never function the same again his gaba receptors in his brains were permanantely fucked so his dopamine or serotonin was affected. im not totally sure of the specifics i really wish someone else could chime in as well.
I've read something along the lines as well, and people blame it's effects on gaba for the anxiety the drug tends to give some users. Makes me wonder why only eq would cause this effect which is why I'd like to see some studies...I'm not seeing anything on pubmed atm.
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1350mg EQ turned me into a suicidal, weeping mess. Happened all three times i tried it, at different doses each time.
I like what it does for my physique, but it's really only a cosmetic effect. Deca is far superior for tissue gain
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I forgot where i read it it was on the boards somewhere. some guy mega dosed a cpl grams of eq (2 or 3) and could never function the same again his gaba receptors in his brains were permanantely fucked so his dopamine or serotonin was affected. im not totally sure of the specifics i really wish someone else could chime in as well.
about a year and a half ago i ran a very heavy eq cycle, and it shut my sex drive completely off for about 4 months. To this day I have never been quite the same.
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Doc is legit.
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So I found some studies and it appears all aas affect gaba receptors since it plays a role in reproduction...fuck this, I'd rather not know ;D
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3168686/
In the above study they reference all the studies proven to affect gaba receptors. Reference #s [37, 67, 69, 71, 84, 85, 92, 93].
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Bro-- Why so defensive? Do I detect some penis envy?
M.D. is from Hopkins as is the PhD. in neuromunology.
Boarded in Internal Med. and Neuro. Subspecialty in neuromuscular.
Was Battalion Surgeon for USMC in Desert Storm-- thing was nerve agents.
But that is ok. You just go ahead and drink some more Kool aide. My dick is bigger than your dick anyway. NO HOMO.
DOC
Lift, fuck, make money
Apology accepted. Seriously, sorry I was hard on you, I am also a physician and we have to stick together...
Molecular bio degree Vanderbilt, masters from Pitt, MD from top 30 medical school.
I was simply asking people if they got sick less while on deca, then you come bashing that i am drinking Kool aide and I have a small dick. WTF? Lol.
Anyway, I apologize from slamming you hard like that.
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Yes. Injecting bathtub-made foreign substances into the body is great for general health and well being.
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There is legit pharm grade deca out there bro, just have to find it and pay the extra cost
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Apology accepted. Seriously, sorry I was hard on you, I am also a physician and we have to stick together...
Molecular bio degree Vanderbilt, masters from Pitt, MD from top 30 medical school.
I was simply asking people if they got sick less while on deca, then you come bashing that i am drinking Kool aide and I have a small dick. WTF? Lol.
Anyway, I apologize from slamming you hard like that.
Let me apologize as well. But seriously, without this site and input from 'the bros' like you, I would have a hard time coping with reality.
P.S. I knew you were a physician. Lol
DOC
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A lot of doctor on doctor lovin going down in this thread :D
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Yes. Injecting bathtub-made foreign substances into the body is great for general health and well being.
Thanks for the tip
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A lot of doctor on doctor lovin going down in this thread :D
Yes but why are they interested in men in thongs? :D ;D
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So I found some studies and it appears all aas affect gaba receptors since it plays a role in reproduction...fuck this, I'd rather not know ;D
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3168686/
In the above study they reference all the studies proven to affect gaba receptors. Reference #s [37, 67, 69, 71, 84, 85, 92, 93].
Thanks
For finding this. I feel awesome on everything but eq though. That alone is good for me. I didn't read the article but I'm sure the compounds affect GABA in a different way. all I know is that eq turns u into a depressed worrhless sone of a bitch lol. That with high dosed tren and dieting are why pros are on tons of Xanax and antidepressants
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A lot of doctor on doctor lovin going down in this thread :D
I'd like to watch an adult film where two hot blonde female doctors examine each other, please.
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Yes. Injecting bathtub-made foreign substances into the body is great for general health and well being.
yup thats where we all get our compounds from. the bath tub of some meth addict who just happens to know how to brew gear , has a masters in organic chemistry, works out of a compounding pharmacy and has over 100 grand in lab equipment. i mean look at dexter jackson hes been injecting bathtub made foreign substances full of heavy metals for 20+ years, hes still on the mr o stage though and hasnt dropped dead. for what its worth i truly think the only legit shit coming out of china is the ILLEGAL stuff like hormone powders, lol.
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yup thats where we all get our compounds from. the bath tub of some meth addict who just happens to know how to brew gear , has a masters in organic chemistry, works out of a compounding pharmacy and has over 100 grand in lab equipment. i mean look at dexter jackson hes been injecting bathtub made foreign substances full of heavy metals for 20+ years, hes still on the mr o stage though and hasnt dropped dead. for what its worth i truly think the only legit shit coming out of china is the ILLEGAL stuff like hormone powders, lol.
Lol exactly! So funny that people assume all UGLs are brewing their gear in a dirty sink.
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Lol exactly! So funny that people assume all UGLs are brewing their gear in a dirty sink.
you know the right people china will send you anything i do mean anything
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China...known for top quality. lmao