Do you still Trust "supplement" companies?

[camelisator]

I'm just curious if it's common knowledge by now, beyond this smart ass community that overpriced pre-packaged "formulas" don't work and not worth the money?

I spotted some kids yesteday making fun of the "9.234903433333333lb lean mass in 20.66666666 days" concept and they were skinny so the bullshit status must be catching up 

am I too optimistic?

[Andy Griffin]

I'm just curious if it's common knowledge by now, beyond this smart ass community that overpriced pre-packaged "formulas" don't work and not worth the money?

I spotted some kids yesteday making fun of the "9.234903433333333lb lean mass in 20.66666666 days" concept and they were skinny so the bullshit status must be catching up 

am I too optimistic?

They couldn't publish the ads if they weren't true...could they?   

[Epic_Monster]

I'm just curious if it's common knowledge by now, beyond this smart ass community that overpriced pre-packaged "formulas" don't work and not worth the money?

I spotted some kids yesteday making fun of the "9.234903433333333lb lean mass in 20.66666666 days" concept and they were skinny so the bullshit status must be catching up 

am I too optimistic?

The shit has hit the fan.

[elite_lifter]

hahhahahha, Just look at a company like AtLarge Nutrition who refuses to post a lab assay that I requested about one of their products. Not only is the company owner, Chris Douchebag Mason, a complete ass but he is peddeling a line of prducts the should be renamed Garbage Nutrition. Anyone who would trust a company like this is a FOOL!

[polychronopolous]

I spotted some kids yesteday making fun of the "9.234903433333333lb lean mass in 20.66666666 days" concept

No you didn't.

[Epic_Monster]

[camelisator]

hahhahahha, Just look at a company like AtLarge Nutrition who refuses to post a lab assay that I requested about one of their products. Not only is the company owner, Chris Douchebag Mason, a complete ass but he is peddeling a line of prducts the should be renamed Garbage Nutrition. Anyone who would trust a company like this is a FOOL!

Are you saying everyone of them is pushing false images all in for a quick buck? Are there any exceptions?

[wavelength]

Supp companies should produce two products: creatine monohydrate and protein powder. They should put all their research in making the protein not taste like shit. Thankyou.

[elite_lifter]

Are you saying everyone of them is pushing false images all in for a quick buck? Are there any exceptions?

Certainly exceptions, ON, Labrada, and several other companies, just need to be weary about the others that just want to make a quick buck at your expense.

[camelisator]

Supp companies should produce two products: creatine monohydrate and protein powder. They should put all their research in making the protein not taste like shit. Thankyou.

wavelength, does it mean companies who offer generic products like TrueProtein, AllTheWhey are more honest and respectable?

[Deicide]

Supp companies should produce two products: creatine monohydrate and protein powder. They should put all their research in making the protein not taste like shit. Thankyou.

This they have already done and news for you wave: I am a creatine non-responder=totally useless product for me.

[elite_lifter]

This they have already done and news for you wave: I am a creatine non-responder=totally useless product for me.

No such thing according to bio-chemistry, you are the kind of guy who does not believe anything can be accomplished with effort, this is why you will never amount to much in life. You had to hear it sometime.

[wavelength]

wavelength, does it mean companies who offer generic products like TrueProtein, AllTheWhey are more honest and respectable?

As long as they don't claim their stuff is 154% more anabolic, yes.

This they have already done and news for you wave: I am a creatine non-responder=totally useless product for me.

IMO they haven't and I agree, ditch the CM if you can make the protein taste better instead.

[Deicide]

No such thing according to bio-chemistry, you are the kind of guy who does not believe anything can be accomplished with effort, this is why you will never amount to much in life. You had to hear it sometime.

Maybe bbingwise but wake up, there is more to life than just weights and in that respect I have accomplished a few things.

BTW, this is retarded. I have tried every kind of creatine variety in existence and never noticed anything? It's not like you can fuck up using creatine. Conclusion=creatine=useless for me.

[dr.chimps]

BTW, this is retarded. I have tried every kind of creatine variety in existence and never noticed anything? It's not like you can fuck up using creatine. Conclusion=creatine=useless for me.

Don't take it too personally. Didn't do shit for me, either.

[Deicide]

No such thing according to bio-chemistry, you are the kind of guy who does not believe anything can be accomplished with effort, this is why you will never amount to much in life. You had to hear it sometime.

Non-responders
Approximately 20-30% of the population shows only modest responses to creatine supplementation. These individuals have been coined “non-responders” by the creatine community. Although the precise reasons for all non-responders are not fully understood, several explanations have been offered. First, the appropriate exercise task must be examined to determine the true efficacy of creatine supplementation. Creatine’s effects are most noticeable during repeated bouts of strenuous exercise. Therefore, the effects of creatine would be less obvious, possibly even undetectable, if examined in the context of endurance sports. Secondly, you muscle creatine levels must increase by at least 20% for a clear difference in physical performance to be evident. Some non-responders may possess such naturally high creatine levels that a further increase in muscle creatine content of this magnitude is simply not possible. Thirdly, since exercise increases creatine absorption, supplementing outside the context of a regular exercise routine may not give detectable results. Lastly, it now appears that the muscles of some persons might require a little bit of assistance in taking up creatine from the blood stream. It is thus likely that most non-responders will convert to full-fledged responders provided with the appropriate supplementing regimen.
Creatine: A practical guide teaches how to most effectively combine exercise, nutrition and smart creatine use for explosive muscle growth and enhanced athletic performance.

http://www.creatinemonohydrate.net/glossary.html

So will you eat your words now you superhuman being?

[GetItOnNY]

Good companies, in no particular order
Bio-Plex, excellent protein
AST There VP2 IS GREAT
Met-RX, the original white box, the rest of it is owrthless
Natures Best iSOPURE,Whey Protein Isolate
True Protein Dante, honest knowledgable guy, who takes pride in what he does
Extreme Labs offers assays on there products
Labarada assays his products regularly
ISS There Pro M3 is a pretty good product.
Optimum Nutrition, the Pro Complex is okay, the other products arent
Species a good Whey Protein Isolate

Companies to look out for

Muscle Tech, they have no shame, exagerated claims on average products
VPX makes up chemical names

Pureform, sells orage juice as a liquid vitamin, Sells spray HGH that lemon flavored water and scam people out of money
Dymatise, sels protein cheaper then most companies can but it

IDS sells Waxey Maize that is cornstarch, and there protein in beekers is Collagen protein yet they claim its whey

BSN, NOXPLODE  is just caffiene creatine monohydrate with a fancy name

Hitech Spikes products with Phamramaceuticals, Put Viagra in there Stamina RX, and Masterone in one of the test boosters.

ARLI  You never know what your getting, is the product spiked or not.The guy is kind of smart but crazy

LG Sciences, flip a coin, one batch will be strong the other batch will do nothing.
Plus they like to spike products.

Champion Nutrition not a bad company, but there protein has given alot of people bloating crampoing and gas.

Ultimate Nutrition Clla there product and Protein Isolate,read the label, its Wheat protein Isolate not Whey Protein Isolate

MHP not a bad company, but there 12 hour protein the main ingredient in Soy Isolate.Do you really want to drink Soy Protein as the first ingredient?

[wavelength]

Ultimate Nutrition Clla there product and Protein Isolate,read the label, its Wheat protein Isolate not Whey Protein Isolate

I buy UN Prostar Whey, simply because it's the best tasting I tried so far. Too lazy to try 100 other ones.

[Deicide]

I buy UN Prostar Whey, simply because it's the best tasting I tried so far. Too lazy to try 100 other ones.

Only German for me...

[wavelength]

Only German for me...

Can you put 150g of it in one mixer bottle without it turning to pudding? That's the second requirement I have.

[Andy Griffin]

Can you put 150g of it in one mixer bottle without it turning to pudding? That's the second requirement I have.

But I like pudding.

[Deicide]

Can you put 150g of it in one mixer bottle without it turning to pudding? That's the second requirement I have.

LSP=extrem wasserloeslich!

Hast du Interesse?

[wavelength]

But I like pudding.

Me too, real pudding. Ate coconut and mango pudding today.

[wavelength]

LSP=extrem wasserloeslich!
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[Deicide]

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