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Title: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 09, 2017, 03:13:51 PM
In 2018 the Yankees will be able to overpower the Astros
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Hulkotron on December 09, 2017, 03:17:20 PM
Who ???
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 09, 2017, 03:40:29 PM
Who ???

6'6" 250LB
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Redux on December 09, 2017, 03:56:58 PM
best team money can buy
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 09, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
best team money can buy

It was a trade
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 09, 2017, 04:51:34 PM
rofl niiice

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Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 09, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
best team money can buy

Yanks didn't have highest payroll last year, and will be under the luxury tax threshold this year.

But, nobody really cares.

If they have an advantage over other teams, and don't leverage that advantage, it's bad business.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Joe Pietaro on December 09, 2017, 05:50:27 PM
A very high impact move for Yankees GM Brian Cashman. He gets the top power hitter in the game for Castro and a few minor leaguers. And the Marlins eat about $30 million of Stanton's contract in the trade, as well.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 09, 2017, 05:52:06 PM
A very high impact move for Yankees GM Brian Cashman. He gets the top power hitter in the game for Castro and a few minor leaguers. And the Marlins eat about $30 million of Stanton's contract in the trade, as well.

It was a ridiculous deal, but Florida had no leverage.

Prospects that were given up were nothing.

Yanks farm is still loaded.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Ron Jeremy on December 09, 2017, 06:25:28 PM
When the Yankees take the world series,  will Jeter get a ring also?
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: TheGrinch on December 09, 2017, 06:50:50 PM
Shit pitching = no World Series...

Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 09, 2017, 06:52:50 PM
Shit pitching = no World Series...



Good thing that doesn't apply to the Yankees.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Bevo on December 09, 2017, 06:59:45 PM
Being Yankees fan must be boring, everyone and their mom is a “fan”

Being a Cleveland Browns fan is more admirable
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: AbrahamG on December 09, 2017, 07:21:18 PM
A very high impact move for Yankees GM Brian Cashman. He gets the top power hitter in the game for Castro and a few minor leaguers. And the Marlins eat about $30 million of Stanton's contract in the trade, as well.

Now they can pick up Kinsler from my Tigers to replace Castro.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 09, 2017, 08:33:12 PM
Now they can pick up Kinsler from my Tigers to replace Castro.

Ahhh....no.

Gleyber Torres.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 09, 2017, 08:56:08 PM
Killer line up. Judge is a beast and still has yet to reach his prime and Stanton is just starting his prime years.  Don’t the Yankees want to go after Trout as well?
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 09, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
Killer line up. Judge is a beast and still has yet to reach his prime and Stanton is just starting his prime years.  Don’t the Yankees want to go after Trout as well?

He's not available for a few years.

He may be the best player ever.   Wish he was on a team that contended.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: tom joad on December 09, 2017, 09:12:56 PM
He's not available for a few years.

He may be the best player ever.   Wish he was on a team that contended.

I'm actually glad that Ohtani chose to play for the Angels because (1) I wanted to see him in the AL, and (2) I wanted Trout to have a better chance at playing in the playoffs.

Who will be booed louder next season ...
Ohtani in the Bronx or Stanton at Fenway?
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 09, 2017, 09:23:51 PM
I'm actually glad that Ohtani chose to play for the Angels because (1) I wanted to see him in the AL, and (2) I wanted Trout to have a better chance at playing in the playoffs.

Who will be booed louder next season ...
Ohtani in the Bronx or Stanton at Fenway?

Fenway.....Yankees found a way to get over it quickly.   ;D

Disappointed in Ohtani.  He signed with a team that has little chance for the postseason, next year, and the near future.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 10, 2017, 08:25:26 AM
Christ-mass has truly come early this year.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: TheGrinch on December 10, 2017, 09:24:29 AM
Good thing that doesn't apply to the Yankees.

yes... you're right.. they have even worse than shit pitching...
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 10, 2017, 10:14:35 AM
Could literally be the new Murderors Row for the pinstripes.

Interested to see how this team (with Boone) plays out.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: cobra333 on December 10, 2017, 12:32:29 PM
Mark my words this guy will be the new homerun rbi mvp in the next 2 years.  Any book or fantasy guy put him in ur mix. When u get traded to the yanks mind muscle work crazy in sink. This guy will be the new age bonds canseco sosa with no ped hopefully.  Watch him and play ur book and fantasy with him always
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 10, 2017, 01:12:20 PM
yes... you're right.. they have even worse than shit pitching...

Lol at shit pitching.  Best bullpen in the league, 2nd in pitcher WAR in all MLB in 2017, with Tanaka stinking for a portion of the season.

Legit young ace in Severino.

Tanaka / Gray excellent 2-3.

Montgomery will give 200 IP of league average ball.

Farm loaded with pitching prospects and offseason just beginning and they have the best lineup and bullpen set.

So yeah.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: polychronopolous on December 10, 2017, 01:18:31 PM
Happy for the posters on here that are fans of the organization but it still must be said...

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Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Bevo on December 10, 2017, 04:04:24 PM
Lol at shit pitching.  Best bullpen in the league, 2nd in pitcher WAR in all MLB in 2017, with Tanaka stinking for a portion of the season.

Legit young ace in Severino.

Tanaka / Gray excellent 2-3.

Montgomery will give 200 IP of league average ball.

Farm loaded with pitching prospects and offseason just beginning and they have the best lineup and bullpen set.

So yeah.

Have to give it to Tanaka post season though, he’s always been clutch when it counts

Tanaka so far has only one bad season this year
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: chess315 on December 10, 2017, 05:03:47 PM
He's not that great other then his home runs he could easily be a bust . I think he will pan out though
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Anonymous on December 10, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
He's not that great other then his home runs he could easily be a bust . I think he will pan out though
He was 4th in OPS. 1st in RBI's. And he's a good fielder.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 10, 2017, 07:35:26 PM
He's not that great other then his home runs he could easily be a bust . I think he will pan out though

4th in WAR in 2017.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 11, 2017, 12:01:33 PM
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: CalvinH on December 11, 2017, 02:25:09 PM
Crazy to think about their lineup this upcoming season.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 11, 2017, 02:38:49 PM
Crazy to think about their lineup this upcoming season.
It could end up being a disaster. New coach (with no experience) counting on Stanton and Judge to hit 50+ homers again, and Sanchez to turn into a gold glove catcher, and hit 40 hrs as well.

Expectations in New York.........These new Yankees thrived on being young, and exceeding expectations. Now, the expectation is a World Series Championship.

This ain't your daddy's Yankees.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: tom joad on December 11, 2017, 02:44:59 PM
Crazy to think about their lineup this upcoming season.

... and then wait till Chase Headley is replaced by Manny Machado in 2018!
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: tom joad on December 11, 2017, 02:53:20 PM
It could end up being a disaster. New coach (with no experience) counting on Stanton and Judge to hit 50+ homers again, and Sanchez to turn into a gold glove catcher, and hit 40 hrs as well.

Expectations in New York.........These new Yankees thrived on being young, and exceeding expectations. Now, the expectation is a World Series Championship.

This ain't your daddy's Yankees.

The Astros, Indians & Red Sox, along with the Yankees, all look like shoe-ins to make the playoffs again.
And then the playoffs are pretty much a crapshoot (once the wildcard winner is settled.)
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 11, 2017, 03:13:26 PM
A very high impact move for Yankees GM Brian Cashman. He gets the top power hitter in the game for Castro and a few minor leaguers. And the Marlins eat about $30 million of Stanton's contract in the trade, as well.
Marlins fans get fucked again.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 11, 2017, 03:16:07 PM
Marlins fans get fucked again.
Agreed. He was the only reason to watch the Marlins.

On the bright side, they do have two titles. They can't take those away.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 11, 2017, 03:40:48 PM
It could end up being a disaster. New coach (with no experience) counting on Stanton and Judge to hit 50+ homers again, and Sanchez to turn into a gold glove catcher, and hit 40 hrs as well.

Expectations in New York.........These new Yankees thrived on being young, and exceeding expectations. Now, the expectation is a World Series Championship.

This ain't your daddy's Yankees.

Greg Bird is an awesome hitter too; can't forget him
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 11, 2017, 03:43:42 PM
Greg Bird is an awesome hitter too; can't forget him

Bird could have a monster year.

Didi, Hicks and Gardner are good as well, with Torres likely to join a few weeks after ST.

Judge and Stanton don't need to hit 50 HR.

It's not about the big three.  Too much depth.

Farm system is ridiculous too......
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 11, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
Bird could have a monster year.

Didi, Hicks and Gardner are good as well, with Torres likely to join a few weeks after ST.

Judge and Stanton don't need to hit 50 HR.

It's not about the big three.  Too much depth.

Farm system is ridiculous too......
So World Series or bust?
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: tom joad on December 11, 2017, 05:43:16 PM
I guess the only silver lining for baseball fans of other teams is that now Bryce Harper probably won't face the decision of whether or not to shave his epic beard (no homo) by possibly joining the Yankees in 2019.

if the choice is between Stanton for big money for 11 more years ... Giancarlo's age 28-38 seasons
vs.
Harper for crazy money for (also say) 11 years starting in 2019 ... Bryce's age 26-36 seasons

then I'd fear more Harper in pinstripes.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 11, 2017, 06:29:24 PM
I guess the only silver lining for baseball fans of other teams is that now Bryce Harper probably won't face the decision of whether or not to shave his epic beard (no homo) by possibly joining the Yankees in 2019.

if the choice is between Stanton for big money for 11 more years ... Giancarlo's age 28-38 seasons
vs.
Harper for crazy money for (also say) 11 years starting in 2019 ... Bryce's age 26-36 seasons

then I'd fear more Harper in pinstripes.


Yanks are only getting hit for a 22M AAV on this deal.  Harper will be 40M.

They still could add him though..... ;D
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: tom joad on December 11, 2017, 06:46:43 PM
Yanks are only getting hit for a 22M AAV on this deal.  Harper will be 40M.

They still could add him though..... ;D

unless the Evil Empire won't be giving a damn about the luxury tax, then NY won't be blowing away
other offers that Harper will be receiving, so . . .

Harper can get his $ and be forced to shave his beard
or
Harper can get his $ and keep his beard.

I say Bryce chooses the beard FTW.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 11, 2017, 07:39:27 PM
unless the Evil Empire won't be giving a damn about the luxury tax, then NY won't be blowing away
other offers that Harper will be receiving, so . . .

Harper can get his $ and be forced to shave his beard
or
Harper can get his $ and keep his beard.

I say Bryce chooses the beard FTW.

Yanks will reset luxury tax in 2018.

Then, all bets are off.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2017, 03:31:08 AM
Bird could have a monster year.

Didi, Hicks and Gardner are good as well, with Torres likely to join a few weeks after ST.

Judge and Stanton don't need to hit 50 HR.

It's not about the big three.  Too much depth.

Farm system is ridiculous too......

Judge, Stanton, and Sanchez give the Yankees power from the right. Bird gives the Yankees power from the left side of the plate.

Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2017, 03:36:49 AM
Bird is good under pressure too. Did great in ALDS and ALCS

Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 12, 2017, 05:56:30 AM
Agreed. He was the only reason to watch the Marlins.

On the bright side, they do have two titles. They can't take those aay.
Yup, Still have not been to a game at Marlins Park. Now there is absolutely no reason.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: TheGrinch on December 12, 2017, 09:03:03 AM
Who bats where and which one do you pitch to?  ???
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: chess315 on December 12, 2017, 10:57:30 AM
Historicaly these monster Homerun teams haven't did well
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2017, 12:01:14 PM
A couple hours ago the Yankees traded Chase Headley to the San Diego Padres
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 12, 2017, 01:41:11 PM
A couple hours ago the Yankees traded Chase Headley to the San Diego Padres

Salary dump.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: njflex on December 12, 2017, 01:54:21 PM
A couple hours ago the Yankees traded Chase Headley to the San Diego Padres
GOOD RIDDANCE KEEP FRAZIER...
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 12, 2017, 01:59:01 PM
GOOD RIDDANCE KEEP FRAZIER...

Only if cheap and one year deal.

Andujar could be a stud bat, has a great arm, and is athletic.   Just need his glove to be more steady, which can happen.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 12, 2017, 02:06:41 PM
NY Yankees radio broadcaster John Sterling said that it's going to be fun doing the radio broadcast this year
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: 2ND COMING on December 12, 2017, 03:31:19 PM
NY Yankees radio broadcaster John Sterling said that it's going to be fun doing the radio broadcast this year
Sterling can be a tough listen but the homerun calls are fun.

possible giancarlo hr calls, using sterling's inflection

"stanton, plants one"

"its a gian bomb"

"giancarlo hits one far-o"

 :-\
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Fallsview on December 12, 2017, 03:32:18 PM
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Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Joe Pietaro on December 13, 2017, 10:14:12 AM
More big names being thrown around at the Winter Meetings. Yanks in talks with Tigers about Michael Fulmer and also Orioles about Manny Machado. Same prospects involved, so they wouldn't be able to pull off both.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 13, 2017, 10:39:59 AM
More big names being thrown around at the Winter Meetings. Yanks in talks with Tigers about Michael Fulmer and also Orioles about Manny Machado. Same prospects involved, so they wouldn't be able to pull off both.

Couple things.....the Yankees do have the prospects to get both, but I don't think they're going to willing to part with those like Torres / Florial.

Also, they wouldn't part with anything of value to get one year of Machado.   In addition, Machado will likely command 20M in Arbitration, which would severely limit what the Yankees can spend on pitching while staying under the luxury tax cap.

I think the Machado thing is just the Yankees kicking the tires on everything like they normally do, or just them getting linked to everything like they normally do too.

Fulmer, on the other hand, makes total sense for NY, but I don't know what they'd give up.  I think Torres, as stated, is untouchable, but a package around Fraizer could happen.   I hope they hold onto Sheffield - Law just called him the best lefty in the minors.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 13, 2017, 10:58:48 AM
Only if cheap and one year deal.

Andujar could be a stud bat, has a great arm, and is athletic.   Just need his glove to be more steady, which can happen.

Frazier wants multi-year deal
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 13, 2017, 11:50:23 AM
Frazier wants multi-year deal

That's what he says, but he also really wants to be a Yankee.

A bunch of other teams are interested.  He's a good fit for us (good defense, possible Bird backup), but it probably won't work.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: njflex on December 13, 2017, 12:50:18 PM
That's what he says, but he also really wants to be a Yankee.

A bunch of other teams are interested.  He's a good fit for us (good defense, possible Bird backup), but it probably won't work.
he's great clubhouse guy and power bat win/win
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 13, 2017, 12:52:26 PM
he's great clubhouse guy and power bat win/win

I like the clubhouse part and defense best.  Not really enamored with his offense - would rather have high OBP guy to compliment the ridiculous power they already have.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: tom joad on December 13, 2017, 02:00:55 PM
Manny Machado apparently wants to play shorstop now going forward.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 13, 2017, 02:14:38 PM
Manny Machado apparently wants to play shorstop now going forward.

Any contenders need an SS?
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 13, 2017, 02:22:06 PM
Any contenders need an SS?
Grape, what do you think of getting rid of Girardi for Boone? Was Girardi's departure due mainly to a clash with Cashman and the front office?

Do you think they picked Boone because he will be a yes man?
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: tom joad on December 13, 2017, 02:29:35 PM
Grape, what do you think of getting rid of Girardi for Boone? Was Girardi's departure due mainly to a clash with Cashman and the front office?

Do you think they picked Boone because he will be a yes man?

would've loved to have seen Billy Martin (RIP) return as Yankees skipper for a 6th time.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 13, 2017, 02:53:25 PM
Grape, what do you think of getting rid of Girardi for Boone? Was Girardi's departure due mainly to a clash with Cashman and the front office?

Do you think they picked Boone because he will be a yes man?

I will respond to this too.

Micheal Kay on the YES Network said that Girardi was not loved by the players... respected, but not loved. And he wasn't relaxed enough, and the young players didn't perform well when Girardi was tense
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Joe Pietaro on December 13, 2017, 05:06:27 PM
Couple things.....the Yankees do have the prospects to get both, but I don't think they're going to willing to part with those like Torres / Florial.

Also, they wouldn't part with anything of value to get one year of Machado.   In addition, Machado will likely command 20M in Arbitration, which would severely limit what the Yankees can spend on pitching while staying under the luxury tax cap.

I think the Machado thing is just the Yankees kicking the tires on everything like they normally do, or just them getting linked to everything like they normally do too.

Fulmer, on the other hand, makes total sense for NY, but I don't know what they'd give up.  I think Torres, as stated, is untouchable, but a package around Fraizer could happen.   I hope they hold onto Sheffield - Law just called him the best lefty in the minors.

If I were Cashman, I would go balls-to-the-wall after Fulmer and - to a lesser extent - Gerrit Cole of the Pirates. Two of the Yankees highly-touted prospects can most like garner either or in a trade. Machado is not a need at this time; they can resign Todd Frazier for a year to play third base. And if Machado wants to play SS, he's not a good fit in NY.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: AbrahamG on December 13, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
I will respond to this too.

Micheal Kay on the YES Network said that Girardi was not loved by the players... respected, but not loved. And he wasn't relaxed enough, and the young players didn't perform well when Girardi was tense

The players are pussies.  To me, Girardi has been the best manager in baseball the past few years. 
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 13, 2017, 05:22:25 PM
The players are pussies.  To me, Girardi has been the best manager in baseball the past few years. 

Guess you didn't follow his in game management that closely.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 13, 2017, 05:24:41 PM
If I were Cashman, I would go balls-to-the-wall after Fulmer and - to a lesser extent - Gerrit Cole of the Pirates. Two of the Yankees highly-touted prospects can most like garner either or in a trade. Machado is not a need at this time; they can resign Todd Frazier for a year to play third base. And if Machado wants to play SS, he's not a good fit in NY.

Yes, but I'm less high on Cole.  Fullmer's the move that makes the most sense, provided they don't give up Torres or Florial.  If not, the roll the dice with Sheffield maybe and wait for the trade deadline to see what's available.

Andujar can play third if they don't sign Frazier.

Machado doesn't makes sense, given what I said about needing to stay under the luxury tax cap, and his predicted arb #'s.  Then again, if the Yankees feel they can get him for prospects they deem expendable, you never know.


Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: AbrahamG on December 13, 2017, 05:24:45 PM
Guess you didn't follow his in game management that closely.

The Yankees have overachieved every year since he's been the skipper.  He was hamstrung with shitty contracts
to aging if not washed up players.  He is obviously an alpha male with a very large brajole'.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 13, 2017, 05:42:05 PM
The Yankees have overachieved every year since he's been the skipper.  He was hamstrung with shitty contracts
to aging if not washed up players.  He is obviously an alpha male with a very large brajole'.

They underperformed their Pythagorean record this year by like 10 games.

Girardi's bullpen management / giving player's rest etc, was suspect at best, horrid when at its worst.   His often struggled with being able to adapt to situations in real time, a victim of his own meticulous planning.  His goof in the ALDS was inexcusable, but icing on the cake.

Like Torre, he started off well and had a decent run, but it was time to go.   Yankees have too much opportunity now to have it impaired by his shortcomings.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: chess315 on December 13, 2017, 06:29:22 PM
They underperformed their Pythagorean record this year by like 10 games.

Girardi's bullpen management / giving player's rest etc, was suspect at best, horrid when at its worst.   His often struggled with being able to adapt to situations in real time, a victim of his own meticulous planning.  His goof in the ALDS was inexcusable, but icing on the cake.

Like Torre, he started off well and had a decent run, but it was time to go.   Yankees have too much opportunity now to have it impaired by his shortcomings.

I just don't see it all paining out for them
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 13, 2017, 07:45:54 PM
I just don't see it all paining out for them

Based on?
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 14, 2017, 01:00:36 AM
They underperformed their Pythagorean record this year by like 10 games.

Girardi's bullpen management / giving player's rest etc, was suspect at best, horrid when at its worst.   His often struggled with being able to adapt to situations in real time, a victim of his own meticulous planning.  His goof in the ALDS was inexcusable, but icing on the cake.

Like Torre, he started off well and had a decent run, but it was time to go.   Yankees have too much opportunity now to have it impaired by his shortcomings.


Plus Girardi changed the batting order every friggin game. That had to be difficult for the young players.

And yes, Gary Sanchez was livid with that situation in the ALDS... and the next game the fans were chanting "Joe Must Go"
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Joe Pietaro on December 14, 2017, 10:21:23 AM
Yes, but I'm less high on Cole.  Fullmer's the move that makes the most sense, provided they don't give up Torres or Florial.  If not, the roll the dice with Sheffield maybe and wait for the trade deadline to see what's available.

Andujar can play third if they don't sign Frazier.

Machado doesn't makes sense, given what I said about needing to stay under the luxury tax cap, and his predicted arb #'s.  Then again, if the Yankees feel they can get him for prospects they deem expendable, you never know.




Valid points all around. Fulmer is a bigger chip than Cole. No matter what Cashman does  - or doesn't  - do now, he has still had a very positive offseason with many improvements on paper. I didn't like the change at manager and felt Girardi was the right guy for this team. But that remains to be seen how they fare with a rookie skipper.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 14, 2017, 10:33:02 AM
Valid points all around. Fulmer is a bigger chip than Cole. No matter what Cashman does  - or doesn't  - do now, he has still had a very positive offseason with many improvements on paper. I didn't like the change at manager and felt Girardi was the right guy for this team. But that remains to be seen how they fare with a rookie skipper.

Agree with everything except the Girardi.  As I've said, I've grown weary of his in game decisions, but if what the Yankees are saying is true about his ability to connect with the younger players, I believe them.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 14, 2017, 02:43:19 PM
Agree with everything except the Girardi.  As I've said, I've grown weary of his in game decisions, but if what the Yankees are saying is true about his ability to connect with the younger players, I believe them.
I think it's downright disrespectful. You should have to rise the ranks (or at least have some managerial experience) before you are just handed the  job of coaching arguably the most famous franchise in American sports.

Just a hypothetical, but don't you think a guy like Mattingly would be more deserving? How about the guys managing the minor league clubs? Boone just gets to skip over all of them? I believe they picked him to be the ultimate puppet on a string. The front office will tell him how to run the team.

As a side note, what is your opinion on what Jeter is doing with the Marlins? Marlins fans are hating his guts right now.

Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2017, 04:46:15 PM
Agree with everything except the Girardi.  As I've said, I've grown weary of his in game decisions, but if what the Yankees are saying is true about his ability to connect with the younger players, I believe them.

I think it's downright disrespectful. You should have to rise the ranks (or at least have some managerial experience) before you are just handed the  job of coaching arguably the most famous franchise in American sports.

Just a hypothetical, but don't you think a guy like Mattingly would be more deserving? How about the guys managing the minor league clubs? Boone just gets to skip over all of them? I believe they picked him to be the ultimate puppet on a string. The front office will tell him how to run the team.

As a side note, what is your opinion on what Jeter is doing with the Marlins? Marlins fans are hating his guts right now.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 14, 2017, 04:47:33 PM
I think it's downright disrespectful. You should have to rise the ranks (or at least have some managerial experience) before you are just handed the  job of coaching arguably the most famous franchise in American sports.

Just a hypothetical, but don't you think a guy like Mattingly would be more deserving? How about the guys managing the minor league clubs? Boone just gets to skip over all of them? I believe they picked him to be the ultimate puppet on a string. The front office will tell him how to run the team.

As a side note, what is your opinion on what Jeter is doing with the Marlins? Marlins fans are hating his guts right now.
Please elaborate.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 14, 2017, 04:53:10 PM
I think it's downright disrespectful. You should have to rise the ranks (or at least have some managerial experience) before you are just handed the  job of coaching arguably the most famous franchise in American sports.

Just a hypothetical, but don't you think a guy like Mattingly would be more deserving? How about the guys managing the minor league clubs? Boone just gets to skip over all of them? I believe they picked him to be the ultimate puppet on a string. The front office will tell him how to run the team.

As a side note, what is your opinion on what Jeter is doing with the Marlins? Marlins fans are hating his guts right now.

Good questions SF, but I disagree.  

Right now the front office should have more leeway and trust because everything Cashman touches turns to gold.  The went from an old, heavy contract laden team needing a rebuild to a perennial WS contender in less than a year.  Anyone with baseball knowledge and familiarity with their farm system knows just how loaded they are.   Many regular, everyday players were acquired for the baseball equivalent of nothing.

So, if they are setting themselves up for a run and they want a manager who is in line with their thought process, is a great communicator, respected by his peers, and statistically oriented, more power to them.   Why use a guy like Mattingly, who many consider a horrible manager, just because he has "experience".

As for your Jeter / Marlins question, the purchasers of that team inherited 400M in debt, and Loria purposely backloaded the Stanton deal because he knew he was selling and wouldn't have to deal with it.   They have to gut the team and start over, no matter how unpopular that may be at the moment.  Stanton had them over a barrel with his NTC clause, so they didn't have much choice there either.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 14, 2017, 04:55:11 PM
Lol!
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: SF1900 on December 14, 2017, 05:17:30 PM
Good questions SF, but I disagree.  

Right now the front office should have more leeway and trust because everything Cashman touches turns to gold.  The went from an old, heavy contract laden team needing a rebuild to a perennial WS contender in less than a year.  Anyone with baseball knowledge and familiarity with their farm system knows just how loaded they are.   Many regular, everyday players were acquired for the baseball equivalent of nothing.

So, if they are setting themselves up for a run and they want a manager who is in line with their thought process, is a great communicator, respected by his peers, and statistically oriented, more power to them.   Why use a guy like Mattingly, who many consider a horrible manager, just because he has "experience".

As for your Jeter / Marlins question, the purchasers of that team inherited 400M in debt, and Loria purposely backloaded the Stanton deal because he knew he was selling and wouldn't have to deal with it.   They have to gut the team and start over, no matter how unpopular that may be at the moment.  Stanton had them over a barrel with his NTC clause, so they didn't have much choice there either.

But Don Mattingly had a badass mustache. That has to count for something.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Joe Pietaro on December 15, 2017, 07:29:17 AM
Agree with everything except the Girardi.  As I've said, I've grown weary of his in game decisions, but if what the Yankees are saying is true about his ability to connect with the younger players, I believe them.

There has been whispers about his relationship with the younger players, but I try and look at the overall picture and that team was built to contend in 2018. Girardi had them in the ALCS when they were a surprise to even qualify for the Wild Card. And the core of the team consists of younger players.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 15, 2017, 08:19:01 AM
There has been whispers about his relationship with the younger players, but I try and look at the overall picture and that team was built to contend in 2018. Girardi had them in the ALCS when they were a surprise to even qualify for the Wild Card. And the core of the team consists of younger players.
Girardi got fired from the Marlins after he won manager of the year. So you know he isn't the easiest guy to get along with.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 15, 2017, 10:04:20 AM
There has been whispers about his relationship with the younger players, but I try and look at the overall picture and that team was built to contend in 2018. Girardi had them in the ALCS when they were a surprise to even qualify for the Wild Card. And the core of the team consists of younger players.

The players got them there, despite Girardi.   ALDS decision was one of the worst I've seen - Pete Carrol not using Lynch type stuff.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 15, 2017, 04:09:29 PM
I've been reading rumors all day about the Yankees trading Clint Frazier. He was a pleasant surprise during the  summer of 2017 for the Yankees.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Grape Ape on December 15, 2017, 05:45:26 PM
I've been reading rumors all day about the Yankees trading Clint Frazier. He was a pleasant surprise during the  summer of 2017 for the Yankees.

His bat speed is legendary.

But NY has a glut of OFs due to Stanton acquisition.

If they could get Ellsbury to waive his NTC, they might be able to make room.

But Garnder / Hicks will control CF.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Shizzo on December 15, 2017, 10:47:13 PM


I noticed the hands behind the back.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on December 16, 2017, 10:51:59 AM
Yankees just Signed CC Sabathia to a 1 year deal for $10 million
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: tom joad on December 16, 2017, 11:12:55 AM
Yankees just Signed CC Sabathia to a 1 year deal for $10 million

there's a clause in his contract that opposing batters are not allowed to bunt on him.
Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton traded to the NY Yankees
Post by: Royalty on February 03, 2018, 08:02:45 AM
Giancarlo earlier this week, accepting the NL MVP award. At the 1:30 mark he gave an extensive “thank you” to his parents. Very down to earth. Very respectful.

Title: Re: Giancarlo Stanton is going to the NY Yankees
Post by: nicorulez on February 03, 2018, 08:10:40 AM
He's not available for a few years.

He may be the best player ever.   Wish he was on a team that contended.

I think Barry Bonds just rolled over in his grave. Trout better than Bond oh brother  ::) ::) ::)