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Title: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 06, 2013, 09:43:11 PM
Are you prepared? How have you prepared yourself? I'm not talking guns and ammo. I'm talking food, water, power and medical.

BE PREPARED!
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: TheGrinch on March 06, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
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Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 06, 2013, 10:00:35 PM
Strategic Relocation  -- read it , learn it... love it

Thanks. I'm searching now...for free of course. lol
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 06, 2013, 10:02:50 PM
Are you prepared? How have you prepared yourself? I'm not talking guns and ammo. I'm talking food, water, power and medical.

BE PREPARED!
My friend is a fanatic like that, stored 100 sacks of rice and it was good for 3 years then got insects in them some how and all went to waste, he was pissed, lol.  :-\
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 06, 2013, 10:19:26 PM
Are you prepared? How have you prepared yourself? I'm not talking guns and ammo. I'm talking food, water, power and medical.

BE PREPARED!

Learn how to water fast for weeks at a time...Imagine being able to go without food for 2-4 weeks with no problems while most other people are clawing at the walls.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 06, 2013, 10:26:33 PM
My friend is a fanatic like that, stored 100 sacks of rice and it was good for 3 years then got insects in them some how and all went to waste, he was pissed, lol.  :-\

People can live on rice, and it's cheap.  We should all really go to costco and buy some of those 42 pound buckets.  Why not?

How long does dry rice in a bucket last?  Would have to stay good for quite some time?
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: jwb on March 06, 2013, 10:30:58 PM
Is it crazy to think people would come together and help each other out if this happened just like 9/11 or natural disasters?
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 06, 2013, 10:34:50 PM
Is it crazy to think people would come together and help each other out if this happened just like 9/11 or natural disasters?

Yes, because once there is an economic collapse and hyperinflation, the stores will be empty within hours and people will do ANYTHING for food and water. This 9/11 on steriods, GH, Slin, fatburners, and PMMA and will affect EVERYONE directly.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 06, 2013, 10:52:02 PM
I believe half the population in America would eventually kill themselves. Especially ones that had money. Going from having anything you wanted to nothing would be a major mind fukc.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 06, 2013, 11:15:47 PM
I believe half the population in America would eventually kill themselves. Especially ones that had money. Going from having anything you wanted to nothing would be a major mind fukc.

I don't know about the numbers but yes, there would be mass suicide. Also, mass psychosis. Anyone on anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds or mind altering drugs will be fucked. Homicidal and suicidal. 
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: jwb on March 06, 2013, 11:26:06 PM
Economic collapse generally caused a deflationary spiral btw Wiggs.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 06, 2013, 11:26:47 PM
Are you prepared? How have you prepared yourself? I'm not talking guns and ammo. I'm talking food, water, power and medical.

BE PREPARED!

The US federal govt is prepared.  Massive weapons purchases including 2 billion bullets (enough for decades of war)  and also buying LOTS of armored vehicles.

Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: kofo on March 06, 2013, 11:32:33 PM
Yes, because once there is an economic collapse and hyperinflation, the stores will be empty within hours and people will do ANYTHING for food and water. This 9/11 on steriods, GH, Slin, fatburners, and PMMA and will affect EVERYONE directly.

Totally unrealistic. Look at Zimbabwe and Argentina, the state survived, regular and blackmarket supplied with food. Why should farmers and the food industry just stop making food ? Why should Walmart stop selling food ? Whats innit for them ?
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 06, 2013, 11:34:51 PM
Economic collapse generally caused a deflationary spiral btw Wiggs.

lol. I meant from hyperinflation.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 06, 2013, 11:46:58 PM
Totally unrealistic. Look at Zimbabwe and Argentina, the state survived, regular and blackmarket supplied with food. Why should farmers and the food industry just stop making food ? Why should Walmart stop selling food ? Whats innit for them ?

Because the money we'd use to pay for it will be no good. If the U.S. goes through hyperinflation, the whole world does and old money would be useless. Oh yeah and we (Americans have guns).
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 06, 2013, 11:49:09 PM
Because the money we'd use to pay for it will be no good. If the U.S. goes through hyperinflation, the whole world does and old money would be useless. Oh yeah and we (Americans have guns).
I am with you on this one Wiggs, very possible scenario
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Parker on March 06, 2013, 11:56:51 PM
I don't know about the numbers but yes, there would be mass suicide. Also, mass psychosis. Anyone on anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds or mind altering drugs will be fucked. Homicidal and suicidal. 
The addicts are the ones to watch out for---heroin, crack. they'd do anything including kill to get their fix 
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: bigmc on March 06, 2013, 11:57:29 PM
it wont happen

the worse that can happen is idiots in the media scare mongering

and causing panic buying etc
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 12:02:51 AM
it wont happen

the worse that can happen is idiots in the media scare mongering

and causing panic buying etc

Here we go ::)
You'll be one of the first to off yourself when you can't handle the reality of the situation.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 12:03:03 AM
it wont happen

the worse that can happen is idiots in the media scare mongering

and causing panic buying etc

LOL

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Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 12:05:10 AM
Here we go ::)
You'll be one of the first to off yourself when you can't handle the reality of the situation.

The fools who  believe everything the Govt tells them and believe truth and morality are learned at the movies will be the first ones to go stark raving mad and start trouble (only to be quickly dispatched with a bullet to the head).
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 12:05:27 AM
The addicts are the ones to watch out for---heroin, crack. they'd do anything including kill to get their fix 

Ohhhhhh yeah. Cigarettes will be worth a shitload and people will do ANYTHING for drugs to ease the pain of reality.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 12:08:59 AM
The fools who  believe everything the Govt tells them and believe truth and morality are learned at the movies will be the first ones to go stark raving mad and start trouble (only to be quickly dispatched with a bullet to the head).

Ha ha ha ha. Yes. They'll be mumbling idiots wandering aimlessly down vacant city blocks that the government lied and they want someone to pay.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 12:09:35 AM
I'm starting to think Wiggs might have a point. All I've been reading the past week in UK media is job losses. 1000s upon 1000s. Problem is that the mud people keep breeding like rats without a second thought for the future as the welfare state will pick up the bill for them. Problem is that people losing their jobs are the government losing tax money. At some point the well must run dry. Then what?
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 07, 2013, 12:11:54 AM
Ohhhhhh yeah. Cigarettes will be worth a shitload and people will do ANYTHING for drugs to ease the pain of reality.
Yes but 20 days without eating would make any man just as dangerous as a drug addict
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 12:23:19 AM
Congratulations for waking up.

I'm starting to think Wiggs might have a point. All I've been reading the past week in UK media is job losses. 1000s upon 1000s. Problem is that the mud people keep breeding like rats without a second thought for the future as the welfare state will pick up the bill for them. Problem is that people losing their jobs are the government losing tax money. At some point the well must run dry. Then what?
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 12:28:17 AM
I'm starting to think Wiggs might have a point. All I've been reading the past week in UK media is job losses. 1000s upon 1000s. Problem is that the mud people keep breeding like rats without a second thought for the future as the welfare state will pick up the bill for them. Problem is that people losing their jobs are the government losing tax money. At some point the well must run dry. Then what?

Dude, it's not just me. There are plenty of people on this board whom many would consider "sane" as opposed to how many consider me (lol) that know what's up and what's going down. They wish not to be public and we PM every so often and I respect their wishes.  In addition, there are legit people in public life that know the same thing.

BTW see this video I posted today from Lt. Gen Boykins a retired U.S. Army Gen. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=462410.0

This stuff is very real. To answer your question, after we came off the Gold Standard and begin to spend money recklessly, we begin living in an unsustainable situation. A giant Ponzi Scheme if you will and it has to eventually end. They've been artificially propping this shit up in various ways but mark my words and others way more important than me. Shit is going down and soon. Be prepared. All this "mumbo jumbo" isn't mumbo jumbo. Myself and others are trying to help everyone see this. I know I'm broken record but so  be it.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 12:29:15 AM
Yes but 20 days without eating would make any man just as dangerous as a drug addict

Oh yeah!
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: BigRo on March 07, 2013, 12:31:51 AM
Imagine all the bodybuilders, no meat, no gear, they be fucked....
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 12:41:31 AM
Well, I for one feel that this world can do with a bit of tidying up. As I said in my previous post, too many worthless, useless parasites breeding more worthless parasites that's always going to be a Net loss for the economy. And I'm sorry to say, but it's mainly in the black community. Wiggs you can bitch as much as you want, but you know it's true. You know the crime and unemployment rates. You know who's more prone to these things. Why do we need such people? What use are they? More greedy mouths to feed that in turn spawn more greedy mouths.

If a good old clean up and rinsing can get rid of these weak people, I'm for it.

Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 12:59:36 AM
Well, I for one feel that this world can do with a bit of tidying up. As I said in my previous post, too many worthless, useless parasites breeding more worthless parasites that's always going to be a Net loss for the economy. And I'm sorry to say, but it's mainly in the black community. Wiggs you can bitch as much as you want, but you know it's true. You know the crime and unemployment rates. You know who's more prone to these things. Why do we need such people? What use are they? More greedy mouths to feed that in turn spawn more greedy mouths.

If a good old clean up and rinsing can get rid of these weak people, I'm for it.



Unfortunately you haven't woken up yet to see that race matters not. If you're going to be a racist about it then I suggest going after the race of people that started created this mess. Guess the race?  BTW, how do you think the elite view you?...They view you as a useless eater. A drain on vital resources. Crime and unemployment? So when exactly have the blacks as a whole ever been welcomed with open arms in the U.S.? The answer is never. This crime and unemployment of minorities is a direct correlation on how they are treated in this country as a whole. Not their lack of will to work or a propensity to commit crimes. The problem is the root of the problem was never gotten to and the problem remained with occasional "feel good stories". Just remember, how you view minorities, the elites view you the same and probably even worse seeing how they'd like literally 90% of the population reduced. 
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 01:17:00 AM
Unfortunately you haven't woken up yet to see that race matters not. If you're going to be a racist about it then I suggest going after the race of people that started created this mess. Guess the race?  BTW, how do you think the elite view you?...They view you as a useless eater. A drain on vital resources. Crime and unemployment? So when exactly have the blacks as a whole ever been welcomed with open arms in the U.S.? The answer is never. This crime and unemployment of minorities is a direct correlation on how they are treated in this country as a whole. Not their lack of will to work or a propensity to commit crimes. The problem is the root of the problem was never gotten to and the problem remained with occasional "feel good stories". Just remember, how you view minorities, the elites view you the same and probably even worse seeing how they'd like literally 90% of the population reduced.  

I'm not racist, so get that out of your head. I tell it exactly how I see it any at the moment I see ethnics causing the most issues for the average man. Ok, why is Africa in such a sorry fucking mess? There's no white man there. What's going on? You want to tell me a handful of rich old white men went there and fucked the whole continent? Was it really that simple? And I've been to Africa my friend. South Africa, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania and Kenya. Then most of north Africa too. Stunning amounts of resources and natural beauty .... they sit on the streets deep asleep selling cheap Chinese plastic toys. Not an ounce of entrepreneurial spirit or get-up-and-go in them. The elite steals white welfare money, wear white made clothes, fly white made jets, drive German cars, and proceed to bitch how Whitey is keeping them down. Gimme a fucking break  ::). Turn off the welfare tap and aid money for one year and the whole place goes down in flames. Same with ethnic areas here in London and pretty much everywhere in the Western world.

And how do they see me? Jeez, I don't know. 32, house paid off two years ago, not a penny of debt, two degrees, an IT professional making a very decent salary. Never claimed a penny in benefits and pays nearly £19000 a year in tax. Somehow I think I, and millions others like me, aren't what they had in mind. You'd just like to think so because of your own justifications. There's no reason in getting rid of the middle classes as we're the ones making the 1% very wealthy. It's the lower classes and welfare tossers that needs to go.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 07, 2013, 01:23:07 AM
We are too fucking advanced and rich to worry about the fucking economy and how to pay the bills and will there be enough jobs and full employment (employment and productivity haven't been the same thing for decades now thanks to machines). Free market is based on scarcity and problem solving. There can't be too many houses, food, medication because that would drive the prices down. And then there needs to be enough (social) problems that need solving otherwise there won't be enough jobs. This is not a good system to live in.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: tbombz on March 07, 2013, 01:26:22 AM
trade and barter economy
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 01:27:51 AM
I'm not racist, so get that out of your head. I tell it exactly how I see it any at the moment I see ethnics causing the most issues for the average man. Ok, why is Africa in such a sorry fucking mess? There's no white man there. What's going on? You want to tell me a handful of rich old white men went there and fucked the whole continent? Was it really that simple? And I've been to Africa my friend. South Africa, Ghana, Mozambique, Tanzania and Kenya. Then most of north Africa too. Stunning amounts of resources and natural beauty .... they sit on the streets deep asleep selling cheap Chinese plastic toys. Not an ounce of entrepreneurial spirit or get-up-and-go in them. The elite steals white welfare money, wear white made clothes, fly white made jets, drive German cars, and proceed to bitch how Whitey is keeping them down. Gimme a fucking break  ::). Turn off the welfare tap and aid money for one year and the whole place goes down in flames. Same with ethnic areas here in London and pretty much everywhere in the Western world.

And how do they see me? Jeez, I don't know. 32, house paid off two years ago, not a penny of debt, two degrees, an IT professional making a very decent salary. Never claimed a penny in benefits and pays nearly £19000 a year in tax. Somehow I think I, and millions others like me, aren't what they had in mind. You'd just like to think so because of your own justifications. There's no reason in getting rid of the middle classes as we're the ones making the 1% very wealthy. It's the lower classes and welfare tossers that needs to go.

LOLOL...They don't give a fuck about you. Get that out of your head you pompous ass. They use(d) you to make money and now they're imploded the joint. Yes, you've done well for yourself, congrats. You are still another mouth taking away limited resources. They aren't your friends and they'll be no talking your way out of it. Capitalism has been an utter failure like Communism and Socialism. It's no better than the latter two. You aren't awake yet, you still need a wake up call. You're dwelling on race (a tool they use to divide and conquer.) This is not about race, or sex, or any other divisive hot button topic. It's about Control and Power and them having it you doing what they say if you're still alive.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 01:30:12 AM
We are too fucking advanced and rich to worry about the fucking economy and how to pay the bills and will there be enough jobs and full employment (employment and productivity haven't been the same thing for decades now thanks to machines). Free market is based on scarcity and problem solving. There can't be too many houses, food, medication because that would drive the prices down. And then there needs to be enough (social) problems that need solving otherwise there won't be enough jobs. This is not a good system to live in.

Which is exactly what's happening in London right now. Even saw it on the news yesterday. Apparently 'normal' people can't afford to live here any more. What the fuck is 'normal'?  ::). Why can I, all my friends AND some family members buy houses in nice areas within 5 years of living and working here? It's easy, but people are now CONVINCED they're worth something or owed something. As soon as people can start accepting to realities of life and roll with it and better themselves, the sooner everyone can be rich or comfortable (like me, I'm not rich). But no, everyone wants to drop out of school at 16, don't bother with an education which in turn offers them little in the way of job opportunities. Prices rise as London is a popular world city and everyone proceed the whine that they cannot live here any more. But can never accept that it's squarely their own fault.

And there's loads of jobs here. And I mean loads. It's just a shame that the population here are uneducated, stupid, celebrity obsessed and down right fucking lazy.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 07, 2013, 01:31:41 AM
Which is exactly what's happening in London right now. Even saw it on the news yesterday. Apparently 'normal' people can't afford to live here any more. What the fuck is 'normal'?  ::). Why can I, all my friends AND some family members buy houses in nice areas within 5 years of living and working here? It's easy, but people are now CONVINCED they're worth something or owed something. As soon as people can start accepting to realities of life and roll with it and better themselves, the sooner everyone can be rich or comfortable (like me, I'm not rich). But no, everyone wants to drop out of school at 16, don't bother with an education which in turn offers them little in the way of job opportunities. Prices rise as London is a popular world city and everyone proceed the whine that they cannot live here any more. But can never accept that it's squarely their own fault.

And there's loads of jobs here. And I mean loads. It's just a shame that the population here are uneducated, stupid, celebrity obsessed and down right fucking lazy.


Good post!!
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 01:35:18 AM
LOLOL...They don't give a fuck about you. Get that out of your head you pompous ass. They use(d) you to make money and now they're imploded the joint. Yes, you've done well for yourself, congrats. You are still another mouth taking away limited resources. They aren't your friends and they'll be no talking your way out of it. Capitalism has been an utter failure like Communism and Socialism. It's no better than the latter two. You aren't awake yet, you still need a wake up call. You're dwelling on race (a tool they use to divide and conquer.) This is not about race, or sex, or any other divisive hot button topic. It's about Control and Power and them having it you doing what they say if you're still alive.

Yes Wiggs, you need to keep believing that don't you my friend. After all, it's a justification for your own lack of success, job, ambitions and anything resembling your American dream. You're a bit like George Carlin that spent his life preaching doom and when he died, still nothing had happened. Hitler was supposed to take over the world. Then there was the missile crisis that would've sparked a nuclear winter, peak oil, Mass lay-offs in the 80's and 90's and terrorism in the new millennium. Guess what, we're wealthier than ever, healthier than ever and life's better than ever.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 01:35:23 AM
I don't know about the UK - but even for honest working people home ownership in Australia is becoming much harder to achieve.

Which is exactly what's happening in London right now. Even saw it on the news yesterday. Apparently 'normal' people can't afford to live here any more. What the fuck is 'normal'?  ::). Why can I, all my friends AND some family members buy houses in nice areas within 5 years of living and working here? It's easy, but people are now CONVINCED they're worth something or owed something. As soon as people can start accepting to realities of life and roll with it and better themselves, the sooner everyone can be rich or comfortable (like me, I'm not rich). But no, everyone wants to drop out of school at 16, don't bother with an education which in turn offers them little in the way of job opportunities. Prices rise as London is a popular world city and everyone proceed the whine that they cannot live here any more. But can never accept that it's squarely their own fault.

And there's loads of jobs here. And I mean loads. It's just a shame that the population here are uneducated, stupid, celebrity obsessed and down right fucking lazy.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 01:38:28 AM
Price of essential services like electricity skyrocketing, elderly often unable to afford to run air con in sweltering heat.  Insurance costs rising and rising etc etc.  America in massive debt.   Here in Australia the "socialist" government is getting so desperate they are actually making cuts to welfare - virtually unheard of for them.

Yes Wiggs, you need to keep believing that don't you my friend. After all, it's a justification for your own lack of success, job, ambitions and anything resembling your American dream. You're a bit like George Carlin that spent his life preaching doom and when he died, still nothing had happened. Hitler was supposed to take over the world. Then there was the missile crisis that would've sparked a nuclear winter. Mass lay-offs in the 80's and 90's and terrorism in the new millennium. Guess what, we're wealthier than ever, healthier than ever and life's better than ever.

Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 01:42:00 AM
I don't know about the UK - but even for honest working people home ownership in Australia is becoming much harder to achieve.


I don't want to argue with you my friend, so let's speak like gentlemen. What's 'honest working people'? Do you mean people that couldn't keep up with a changing economy and now unable to etch out a decent living? You don't need Australians to dig trenches, paint houses and drive buses. That's what they're letting immigrants in for. Your mining industry is insane. I know that because they're recruiting here. Tourism, finance. IT, I know your IT is huge because I'm in the industry. Why aren't people working in those industries?

Wiggs is going to complain now and say that Capitalism don't work. Hey, it's working very well for those of us willing to go that extra mile. There'll always be jobs for people like that.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 01:45:12 AM
Yes Wiggs, you need to keep believing that don't you my friend. After all, it's a justification for your own lack of success, job, ambitions and anything resembling your American dream. You're a bit like George Carlin that spent his life preaching doom and when he died, still nothing had happened. Hitler was supposed to take over the world. Then there was the missile crisis that would've sparked a nuclear winter. Mass lay-offs in the 80's and 90's and terrorism in the new millennium. Guess what, we're wealthier than ever, healthier than ever and life's better than ever.


Lack success? You mean like my 3 degrees, and the ten years travelling the world? That success? I'm content with what I'm doing. If I'm not, I'll change it.  Don't turn this on me cause I'm not painting a pretty picture for you Jimblow. You're nothing special and at some point you started believing you were. You're not. You're no better than the minority beggar on the street. You're actually worse because at least they have compassion.  And yes, you are very racist so racist I could EASILY if I wanted have you banned just by providing Ron your posts within the past month let alone since you've been here. You don't like it, leave my thread. Go reread your first post in this thread, then reread what you just posted  you now sound like a rambling buffoon. Just remember, you're nothing special, not here or anywhere else except to your family and friends.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 01:49:09 AM
Price of essential services like electricity skyrocketing, elderly often unable to afford to run air con in sweltering heat.  Insurance costs rising and rising etc etc.  America in massive debt.   Here in Australia the "socialist" government is getting so desperate they are actually making cuts to welfare - virtually unheard of for them.


I'm going to tell you something you probably already know. EVERY Western economy is based on socialism. You're always going to have more weak and needy people than strong people. Those people need help. It comes from the state. And that comes directly from higher taxes. Your tax rates are very fucking high in comparison with America and here in the UK. The Americans don't know how good they have it. They just don't.

But back to socialism. It's needed and people like Coach don't understand that. Stop paying these people and they come in the night and steal all your shit to survive. I'm not blaming them, I would've done the same. But I blame them for being in that position in the first place. Or rather, I blame them after a while. If you want to, REALLY want to, you can be rich. I myself know exactly what I need to do to double my salary. I'm not shooting my mouth here, I'm deadly serious. Within 18 months I can be on FAR more than a 100 grand a year. But I'm too comfortable to rock my life. And that's the issue we have in the welfare state. People are too comfortable to go out and get a job.

We need shock therapy. Something like Chile done in the 80's and pull the carpet out from under people.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 01:51:32 AM
Lack success? You mean like my 3 degrees, and the ten years travelling the world? That success? I'm content with what I'm doing. If I'm not, I'll change it.  Don't turn this on me cause I'm not painting a pretty picture for you Jimblow. You're nothing special and at some point you started believing you were. You're not. You're no better than the minority beggar on the street. You're actually worse because at least they have compassion.  And yes, you are very racist so racist I could EASILY if I wanted have you banned just by providing Ron your posts within the past month let alone since you've been here. You don't like it, leave my thread. Go reread your first post in this thread, then reread what you just posted  you now sound like a rambling buffoon. Just remember, you're nothing special, not here or anywhere else except to your family and friends.

Haha, that's just the thing. You're doing NOTHING. Chasing after fat white girls to impress your peers and posting doom on a forum dedicated to oiled up midgets in thongs. You talk about me believing something, look in the mirror my friend. Your whole existence is now increasingly based on doom you're hoping that happen to alleviate the monotony your life has become.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 01:53:36 AM
Well I am talking "across the board" really. 

Here is a local news article.

AUSTRALIANS have to work almost three times harder to pay off the average family home than they did 50 years ago.

http://www.news.com.au/money/property/couples-work-twice-as-long-for-a-house/story-e6frfmd0-1225837806405



I don't want to argue with you my friend, so let's speak like gentlemen. What's 'honest working people'? Do you mean people that couldn't keep up with a changing economy and now unable to etch out a decent living? You don't need Australians to dig trenches, paint houses and drive buses. That's what they're letting immigrants in for. Your mining industry is insane. I know that because they're recruiting here. Tourism, finance. IT, I know your IT is huge because I'm in the industry. Why aren't people working in those industries?

Wiggs is going to complain now and say that Capitalism don't work. Hey, it's working very well for those of us willing to go that extra mile. There'll always be jobs for people like that.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: tbombz on March 07, 2013, 01:53:58 AM
shit wud be just fine. but different
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 01:56:33 AM
And that's the issue we have in the welfare state. People are too comfortable to go out and get a job.

We need shock therapy.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 01:56:56 AM
But Wiggs, when it's all said and done, I still think you're a good guy. You don't have to like me for I couldn't care less if I actually tried.

You're a decent guy, just a bit misguided.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 01:58:12 AM
Well I am talking "across the board" really.  

Here is a local news article.

AUSTRALIANS have to work almost three times harder to pay off the average family home than they did 50 years ago.

http://www.news.com.au/money/property/couples-work-twice-as-long-for-a-house/story-e6frfmd0-1225837806405



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21519050
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 02:00:10 AM
Haha, that's just the thing. You're doing NOTHING. Chasing after fat white girls to impress your peers and posting doom on a forum dedicated to oiled up midgets in thongs. You talk about me believing something, look in the mirror my friend. Your whole existence is now increasingly based on doom you're hoping that happen to alleviate the monotony your life has become.

Perhaps you should leave the armchair shrink job to someone else. Because you haven't a clue about what you're talking about and you're making things up. I'll ask once more nicely. Leave my thread. If you don't, it was me that got you banned. You're a racist piece of shit and I've never liked you. Now, I'm going do something about it. Choice is yours Jimblow.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 02:01:43 AM
But Wiggs, when it's all said and done, I still think you're a good guy. You don't have to like me for I couldn't care less if I actually tried.

You're a decent guy, just a bit misguided.

You're a racist asshole that thinks he's better than others. You're a piece of shit and misguided. When the shit hits the fan. Remember me.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 07, 2013, 02:04:04 AM
You're a racist asshole that thinks he's better than others. You're a piece of shit and misguided. When the shit hits the fan. Remember me.

Damn Wiggs, settle down.  James is a good man, and he's entitled to his opinion.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 02:06:21 AM
Damn Wiggs, settle down.  James is a good man, and he's entitled to his opinion.

I'm a bit too blunt and can understand why I come across as racist, but I really am not. I'm actually a really nice guy and you'd all like to have a beer and shoot the shit with me. Black or white  :D
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 02:09:13 AM
Damn Wiggs, settle down.  James is a good man, and he's entitled to his opinion.

No, this is a long time coming. I've been quiet and let him get away with alot for a long time. He needs to learn when to shut his fucking mouth. This thread will be his Waterloo assuming he can't keep his racist little digits under control. I get along with Quadzilla quite fine and we can exchange ideas in a civilized manner and he can get his point across without using disparaging remarks but Jimblow thinks this is Stormfront and that he can sling n-words and other terms like its common, then come and insult me in my thread...lol...yeah...no .
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 02:11:08 AM
I'm a bit too blunt and can understand why I come across as racist, but I really am not. I'm actually a really nice guy and you'd all like to have a beer and shoot the shit with me. Black or white  :D

You're racist and blunt. You can lie to us but not to yourself. You're a bigot and your posts prove it.  In addition, your hate clouds your judgement and the ability to see the big picture. This is clear. You wanna be a bigot, fine. But you're not going to operate in the manner your used to anymore, that I guarantee.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 02:18:08 AM
You're racist and blunt. You can lie to us but not to yourself. You're a bigot and your posts prove it.  In addition, you're hate clouds your judgement and the ability to see the big picture. This is clear.

Dude, seriously, lighten the fuck up. There's zero hate in me. I left all that fuck-the-world shit behind in my 20's. Forget the black-white thing for a second. What's the big picture? I've watch 90% of every video you've ever posted. I've bought and read Twilight in the Desert after you posted a video of Matt Simmons here a year or so ago. The longer videos I had on in the background whilst doing cardio or tidying.

Do you know what I see? An industry based on scaremongering. NOTHING has ever happened. NOTHING. You get all pissy when people don't agree with you and call everyone misguided. You refuse to believe you're wrong and take a holier-than attitude. See, the difference is that I know how I come across. I'm not really arrogant, racist or think I'm better than others. I wish others all the happiness in the world that I have. You seem to wait for dark clouds and imminent terror.

Seriously, what the hell is with that?
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 02:22:59 AM
riiiight..... ::)
Do I need to post more? Cause you have plenty.

Don't know what else you folks expect from ni/ggers. Fucking apes they'll be .
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 02:25:11 AM
riiiight..... ::)
Do I need to post more? Cause you have plenty.


Haha, Oh brother. Ignore the question above :D
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Rami on March 07, 2013, 02:26:51 AM
What would be the cause of a global economic collapse?
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Wiggs on March 07, 2013, 02:27:14 AM
What would be the cause of a global economic collapse?

Hyperinflation
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 07, 2013, 02:30:12 AM
Dude, seriously, lighten the fuck up. There's zero hate in me. I left all that fuck-the-world shit behind in my 20's. Forget the black-white thing for a second. What's the big picture? I've watch 90% of every video you've ever posted. I've bought and read Twilight in the Desert after you posted a video of Matt Simmons here a year or so ago. The longer videos I had on in the background whilst doing cardio or tidying.

Do you know what I see? An industry based on scaremongering. NOTHING has ever happened. NOTHING. You get all pissy when people don't agree with you and call everyone misguided. You refuse to believe you're wrong and take a holier-than attitude. See, the difference is that I know how I come across. I'm not really arrogant, racist or think I'm better than others. I wish others all the happiness in the world that I have. You seem to wait for dark clouds and imminent terror.

Seriously, what the hell is with that?
Not trying to get involved between you guys, especially you james, seriously no beef between us at all but want to ask you a question without you getting mad or insulted;

You tell Wiggs to lighten up and you claim you are not racist or there is no hate in you but is that not your comment Wiggs posted above? this one here...... "Don't know what else you folks expect from ni/ggers. Fucking apes they'll be"   ???  Just wondering cause who ever makes a comment of that magnitude and claims he is not racist or does not hate is in serious denial, don't mind me, just my 2 cents, that's all.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 02:31:10 AM
The real thing, bigger than all of this, is EUGENICS.  OBAMA is a big fan of it, and most of the global elite are in on it.   They are our common enemy.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 02:31:15 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/us-hyperinflation-the-markets-know-better/article8981831/

I see certain people don't quite understand Hyperinflation but it sure makes a nice buzzword  ::)
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 07, 2013, 02:33:00 AM
You're racist and blunt. You can lie to us but not to yourself. You're a bigot and your posts prove it.  In addition, your hate clouds your judgement and the ability to see the big picture. This is clear. You wanna be a bigot, fine. But you're not going to operate in the manner your used to anymore, that I guarantee.
agreed
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Parker on March 07, 2013, 02:33:48 AM
Do you know what I see? An industry based on scaremongering. NOTHING has ever happened.
Think of it like the movie Jurassic Park...a lot of info was wrong, but the basic premises and theories could be considered correct.
And so too is the so called "collaspe"...doing what I do, I see how Americans are turning into what could be no less than zombies---only fixated on getting the next fix-- be it drugs, sex, tv, etc. And believe that just because they are "born" that they are entitled to everything, without having to do anything. And it's set up like that. The poor and low class have their scams, and the rich have theirs. Doing what is right in this world is looked upon as being "lame", a zero F___ks attitude is popular---meanwhile people are being evicted out of their homes, people are losing their jobs, rent is sky high, people are kirking out and shooting one another over bs,   foreclosures are skyhigh, and gas is high as a giraffe's ass.  

But as long as we get our fix of drugs, tv and material goods, we are ok.
Like Raheem Devaughn has said in his song, "We are living like we are Bulletproof"  
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 02:34:43 AM
Not trying to get involved between you guys, especially you james, seriously no beef between us at all but want to ask you a question without you getting mad or insulted;

You tell Wiggs to lighten up and you claim you are not racist or there is no hate in you but is that not your comment Wiggs posted above? this one here...... "Don't know what else you folks expect from ni/ggers. Fucking apes they'll be"   ???  Just wondering cause who ever makes a comment of that magnitude and claims he is not racist or does not hate is in serious denial, don't mind me, just my 2 cents, that's all.

You're a nice guy and we spoke before about mountaineering. I remember that quote as I got annoyed with the video attached to that quote. I believe there's n/iggers and there's black people (as Chris Rock said). I believe there's scummy white people and white people. Believe you me, I've spent a lot of my ire towards my own (white) countrymen. A casual back reading of my posts will attest to that.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 07, 2013, 02:37:42 AM
You're a nice guy and we spoke before about mountaineering. I remember that quote as I got annoyed with the video attached to that quote. I believe there's n/iggers and there's black people (as Chris Rock said). I believe there's scummy white people and white people. Believe you me, I've spent a lot of my ire towards my own (white) countrymen. A casual back reading of my posts will attest to that.
OH I see so you are referring to a type of person who indulges in criminal behaviour the n word and not any black person, fair enough, I guess  :-\..... Now, can't we all just get along  :D
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: tbombz on March 07, 2013, 02:38:13 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/us-hyperinflation-the-markets-know-better/article8981831/

I see certain people don't quite understand Hyperinflation but it sure makes a nice buzzword  ::)
very good article. they fail to mentionn that when the fed retracts the money supply that it causes economic recession
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 02:38:39 AM
Think of it like the movie Jurassic Park...a lot of info was wrong, but the basic premises and theories.
And so too is the so called "collaspe"...doing what I do, I see how Americans are turning into what could be no less than zombies---only fixated on getting the next fix-- be it drugs, sex, tv, etc. And believe that just because they are "born" that they are entitled to everything, without having to do anything. And it's set up like that. The poor and low class have their scams, and the rich have theirs. Doing what is right in this world is looked upon as being "lame", a zero F___ks attitude is popular---meanwhile people are being evicted out of their homes, people are losing their jobs, rent is sky high, people are kirking out and shooting one another over bs,   foreclosures are skyhigh, and gas is high as a giraffe's ass.  

But as long as we get our fix of drugs, tv and material goods, we are ok.
Like Raheem Devaughn has said in his song, "We are living like we are Bulletproof"  

Yes and I fully agree with you. But remember, without the rich people providing the job opportunities, pushing technology forward, starting companies for us to work for, there will be nothing. Every day we bite that hand that feeds us. If you're tired of being slung around by The Man, do what Goodrum did and start your own thing. Everyone slags him but you gotta have respect for anyone that does that. Or Bigmc if I recall correct. He also has his own business. You don't HAVE to work for companies that's going to discard you like an old fish wrapper when the time comes. Everyone is responsible for themselves.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: MikMaq on March 07, 2013, 02:40:18 AM
James is a fucking idiot.

Birth rates are fucking plummeting.

Stress levels are super fucking high.

The cost of living has never been higher which is pretty much the most basic measure of progress.

We have an epidemic of people developing health problems that are avoidable, due to high stress world.

Jobs markets are insanely unstable.

And people are becoming increasingly dependent on working with the day to day whims of the markets to even work.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: MikMaq on March 07, 2013, 02:46:35 AM
Yes and I fully agree with you. But remember, without the rich people providing the job opportunities, pushing technology forward, starting companies for us to work for, there will be nothing. Every day we bite that hand that feeds us. If you're tired of being slung around by The Man, do what Goodrum did and start your own thing. Everyone slags him but you gotta have respect for anyone that does that. Or Bigmc if I recall correct. He also has his own business. You don't HAVE to work for companies that's going to discard you like an old fish wrapper when the time comes. Everyone is responsible for themselves.
This is an economic theory that has been proven time and time again to be false.

Capitalism only really works when there are new sources of real wealth to be had. The more the chance for real wealth to be had, and the more these monies will not be recycled through the economy.

And this is exactly what is starting to happen now. The rich are not spreading the wealth unless it's going overseas, creating defacto monopolies  or simply to inflate the cost of living.

Ironic you mention vince and his small business because this old money is also making it more and more  impossible for smaller businesses to compete.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 02:47:17 AM
James is a fucking idiot.

Birth rates are fucking plummeting.

Stress levels are super fucking high.

The cost of living has never been higher which is pretty much the most basic measure of progress.

We have an epidemic of people developing health problems that are avoidable, due to high stress world.

Jobs markets are insanely unstable.

Ok 'Ratard'  ::)

You're a 20 something kid that's still pissed at the world for whatever reason and live in a constant state of anger. You'll mellow with age when you figure out that the only ones that gives a shit is YOU.

Birthrates plummeting? Oh hardly dear, the fuck is the world's population increasing then?

Stress levels high? Proof? Link? Or do you mean yours?

Cost of living? Gimme a fucking break. Here in London and all other major world cities that might be true, but go outside the major centres and properties and rent is stupidly low.

The health problems are due to a shitty diet, laziness to prepare healthy foods and lack of nutritional education.

Job markets has always been unstable. Do you think that's a new thing  ::). The last major company that put people before profits was IBM and that was weeks from going bust if you read Lou Gerstner's autobiography. In all fairness, I've changed my thinking on this a bit. Everyone has a right to a job, but not at all costs. You have to bring something to the table too.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: tbombz on March 07, 2013, 02:49:25 AM
the global economy and standard of living are both higher than they have ever been in history.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Parker on March 07, 2013, 02:50:45 AM
Yes and I fully agree with you. But remember, without the rich people providing the job opportunities, pushing technology forward, starting companies for us to work for, there will be nothing. Every day we bite that hand that feeds us. If you're tired of being slung around by The Man, do what Goodrum did and start your own thing. Everyone slags him but you gotta have respect for anyone that does that. Or Bigmc if I recall correct. He also has his own business. You don't HAVE to work for companies that's going to discard you like an old fish wrapper when the time comes. Everyone is responsible for themselves.
It's not rich people per se, it's that the rich (the ones who eff things up for everybody) and the lower class in the states have their own scams...
Do you know how many people are on "disability" in the states? And when you ask what their "disability" is, they may answer "depression" and they may not have worked in 5 yrs---yet these people can beat their wives, boyfriends, or spend their money on booze? And our American tax dollars pay for them to sit around the house?
And the rich, can do the same thing to his or her spouse and not get locked up..can drive around drunk and catch multiple cases, and not once go to jail...Why? Because they can pay for a good attorney.
Meanwhile, these two population take from the middle class---take, take. One because they feel that they are owed something, and the other because they feel that "can"---both feel that they they are entitled to something.

I understand what goodrum does, but you see, Goodrum is a delusional scammer and a half. And he resides in small rural part of NC. He couldn't do what he does in say DC, NYC, Miami, Raleigh or Cali, he'd be sued, investigated and or shut down.  
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on March 07, 2013, 02:53:32 AM
It's not rich people per se, it's that the rich (the ones who eff things up for everybody) and the lower class in the states have their own scams...
Do you know how many people are on "disability" in the states? And when you ask what their "disability" is, they may answer "depression" and they may not have worked in 5 yrs---yet these people can beat their wives, boyfriends, or spend their money on booze? And our American tax dollars pay for them to sit around the house?
And the rich, can do the same thing to his or her spouse and not get locked up..can drive around drunk and catch multiple cases, and not once go to jail...Why? Because they can pay for a good attorney.
Meanwhile, these two population take from the middle class---take, take. One because they feel that tehy are owned something, and the other because they feel that "can"---both feel that they they are entitled to something.

EXACTLY.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: MikMaq on March 07, 2013, 02:57:39 AM
Ok 'Ratard'  ::)

You're a 20 something kid that's still pissed at the world for whatever reason and live in a constant state of anger. You'll mellow with age when you figure out that the only ones that gives a shit is YOU.

Birthrates plummeting? Oh hardly dear, the fuck is the world's population increasing then?

Stress levels high? Proof? Link? Or do you mean yours?

Cost of living? Gimme a fucking break. Here in London and all other major world cities that might be true, but go outside the major centres and properties and rent is stupidly low.

The health problems are due to a shitty diet, laziness to prepare healthy foods and lack of nutritional education.

Job markets has always been unstable. Do you think that's a new thing  ::). The last major company that put people before profits was IBM and that was weeks from going bust if you read Lou Gerstner's autobiography. In all fairness, I've changed my thinking on this a bit. Everyone has a right to a job, but not at all costs. You have to bring something to the table too.
Dude were not talking about africa or shitty third world countries were talking about the first world.

I laugh at the bitter kid comment, as your obviously to narcissistic in your rhetoric.

I fucking studied industrial engineering before having a nervous breakdown. And I fucking get this shit fucking well and I understand the fucking history of it pretty god dam well too.

IndustrialEng if you don't know is all about increasing productivity to for the goods that are produced.

I understand all to well that as productivity climbs so does the supposed access to goods.

However I also know pretty dam well how much stress a person can take.  Because were the folk that make everyone elses life a living hell. We literally push people until they start jumping out of buildings. Which is the reason those folk making your iphones have suicide nets outside the building that they work from.

We getting more capable of making gadgets and gizmos, but the cost of food and shetler has never been higher(the two resources that matter), and we have plumetting birth rates amongst white folk because of this.

It's bullshit once you understand the economic as basic resources allocation.

The market is pushing us to use resources we don't need in name of pushing the economy forward.

However it's not helping the average person in any way, because people don't need more shit, they need security in housing, and access to water and food.

Were ignoring the fragility of the human body, and introducing night shifts, continuous working hours. Irregular employment patterns. Increasing intellectual stress etc etc.

If your in my prospective you understand quite well how bullshit of a term hard work is.

Most people these days are increasingly getting forced to work hard and harder than ever before. And yet factually I can tell you wages and the resources being used are not going up.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 03:01:55 AM
It's not rich people per se, it's that the rich (the ones who eff things up for everybody) and the lower class in the states have their own scams...
Do you know how many people are on "disability" in the states? And when you ask what their "disability" is, they may answer "depression" and they may not have worked in 5 yrs---yet these people can beat their wives, boyfriends, or spend their money on booze? And our American tax dollars pay for them to sit around the house?
And the rich, can do the same thing to his or her spouse and not get locked up..can drive around drunk and catch multiple cases, and not once go to jail...Why? Because they can pay for a good attorney.
Meanwhile, these two population take from the middle class---take, take. One because they feel that tehy are owned something, and the other because they feel that "can"---both feel that they they are entitled to something.

I understand what goodrum does, but you see, Goodrum is a delusional scammer and a half. And he resides in small rural part of NC. He couldn't do what he does in say DC, NYC, Miami, Raleigh or Cali, he'd be sued, investigated and or shut down.  

Yes, and that's why I'm so pissed. I know I make sweeping statements and paint with broad strokes, but it's getting to a point where something HAS to change. Not an E.L.E what Wiggs is preaching, but a MASSIVE recession and sweeping changes to welfare, tax and government.

I know the disability scams all too well. I see it with my own two eyes. I know the sense of entitlement that flows through everyone as I see that too. I'm middle class, I'll never be upper class. I'll never be an elite. I've made my peace with that years ago. By the grace of God I'll never be lower class either. But I'm getting pissed off with being scammed from above and below and nothing is done.

Which is why I admire Goodrum in a way. Scammer or not (I don't know anything about that), he goes at it alone and I have a feeling that within the next 15-20 years, a lot of us will be forced to do the same.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 03:08:43 AM
Dude were not talking about africa or shitty third world countries were talking about the first world.

I laugh at the bitter kid comment, as your obviously to narcissistic in your rhetoric.

I fucking studied industrial engineering before having a nervous breakdown. And I fucking get this shit fucking well and I understand the fucking history of it pretty god dam well too.

IndustrialEng if you don't know is all about increasing productivity to for the goods that are produced.

I understand all to well that as productivity climbs so does the supposed access to goods.

However I also know pretty dam well how much stress a person can take.  Because were the folk that make everyone elses life a living hell. We literally push people until they start jumping out of buildings. Which is the reason those folk making your iphones have suicide nets outside the building that they work from.

We getting more capable of making gadgets and gizmos, but the cost of food and shetler has never been higher(the two resources that matter), and we have plumetting birth rates amongst white folk because of this.

It's bullshit once you understand the economic as basic resources allocation.

The market is pushing us to use resources we don't need in name of pushing the economy forward.

However it's not helping the average person in any way, because people don't need more shit, they need security in housing, and access to water and food.

Were ignoring the fragility of the human body, and introducing night shifts, continuous working hours. Irregular employment patterns. Increasing intellectual stress etc etc.

If your in my prospective you understand quite well how bullshit of a term hard work is.

Most people these days are increasingly getting forced to work hard and harder than ever before. And yet factually I can tell you wages and the resources being used are not going up.


You still don't grasp the fact that we now, for all its faults, live in the best times ever.

Wanna know what life was like in the 1200's or 1300's or 1400's or Middle Ages? Or the industrial ages? I can go on. I don't have to tell you how cheap life was and how rampant poverty was too.

You talk about gadgets and phones. Even the lower classes walk around with late model iPhones and iPads now. They've never had it so good. The welfare states ensure they don't have to work, the tax payer money ensure they keep up to date with technology and the tax payer ensure they have a roof over their heads and food in their bellies.

I'd LOVE to see a study comparing stress levels back when roving bandits murdered people who had nothing in the first place against a lazy pampered bitch that wakes up in a comfortable bed with free money coming his way every month  ::)
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 07, 2013, 03:13:49 AM
Bro stability fluctuates in sets of generations, it may be good for 1 or 2 but we have yet to see period of stability for longer then 50 years since the beginning of mankind. It was only in the 50's where the famine in Europes caused massive amounts of cannibalism, 30 million have died from hunger in China in the last 30 years bro. Just a couple of years ago the gas prices went up by 2 dollars per gallon in a single day

@ James you are way to confident cause you are living good but when the shit hits the fan it's the snowball effect, the world is vulnerable and can crash at anytime

This shit is real, if the markets crash like they did before you can watch a loaf of bread get sold for 30 dollars and and a gallon of milk for 40 dollars

Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: MikMaq on March 07, 2013, 03:15:08 AM
Bro stability fluctuates in sets of generations, it may be good for 1 or 2 but we have yet to see period of stability for longer then 50 years since the beginning of mankind. It was only in the 50's where the famine in Europes caused massive amounts of cannibalism, 30 million have died from hunger in China in the last 30 years bro. Just a couple of years ago the gas prices went up by 2 dollars per gallon in a single day

@ James you are way to confident cause you are living good but when the shit hits the fan it's the snowball effect, the world is vulnerable and can crash at anytime

This shit is real, if the markets crash like they did before you can watch a loaf of bread get sold for 30 dollars and and a gallon of milk for 40 dollars


Lol I love that he's over confident because he's doing well.

Odds are he ain't really doing that well, he's likely taken on a boatload of stress, to live a lifestyle not much better than his grandfather would of had. And has to use some simplistic emotional attachment to the merit of hard work as his justification for putting up with nonsense.



I'm not really big on the total collaspe thing, but it's a fact that when economies slump, the growing piece of the pie shrinks. Monopolies are established, laws start benefiting those that have something and goes against those that don't.

Corruption becomes rampant as everyone is too focused on themselves to be fair to anyone else. Organized crime starts making a move on things that we all take for granted,  like the use of streets, dockyards, trainstations etc etc.

Things just tend to slip in a downward spiral.



Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 03:21:02 AM
Bro stability fluctuates in sets of generations, it may be good for 1 or 2 but we have yet to see period of stability for longer then 50 years since the beginning of mankind. It was only in the 50's where the famine in Europes caused massive amounts of cannibalism, 30 million have died from hunger in China in the last 30 years bro. Just a couple of years ago the gas prices went up by 2 dollars per gallon in a single day

@ James you are way to confident cause you are living good but when the shit hits the fan it's the snowball effect, the world is vulnerable and can crash at anytime

This shit is real, if the markets crash like they did before you can watch a loaf of bread get sold for 30 dollars and and a gallon of milk for 40 dollars



Yes dude, but can you understand why people are getting tired of listening to the same old shit all the time. Peak Oil, bird fly, swine flu, Aids, race wars, terrorism, wars, North Korea, recessions, lay-offs, Islam, Middle East, global warming, hyperinflation, bankers, murders, global elites, media manipulation, fuel prices, energy shortages, etc etc etc.

I can go on. It doesn't even register with me any more as imminent destruction of the world has been going on since I was born in 1980 and became interested in these things 15 years later. We've always been living in the time of Revelations as the Christians like to think.

Until something serious happens, let me know.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 03:25:13 AM
Lol I love that he's over confident because he's doing well.

Odds are he ain't really doing that well, he's likely taken on a boatload of stress, to live a lifestyle not much better than his grandfather would of had. And has to use some simplistic emotional attachment to the merit of hard work as his justification for putting up with nonsense.




My grandfather was a very wealthy man that retired at 45.  He was retired for 35 years before he died a few years ago at 80. Whilst my other grandfather worked for Shell. He retired at 50.

Both have done better than I have. I've never been one to compare myself to anyone. As long as I live well, I'm happy.

Though, listening to you speak, I'd be doing well anyway if I weren't popping Prozac like tic tacs and had not a penny to my name
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: MikMaq on March 07, 2013, 03:26:36 AM
Yes dude, but can you understand why people are getting tired of listening to the same old shit all the time. Peak Oil, bird fly, swine flu, Aids, race wars, terrorism, wars, North Korea, recessions, lay-offs, Islam, Middle East, global warming, hyperinflation, bankers, murders, global elites, media manipulation, fuel prices, energy shortages, etc etc etc.

I can go on. It doesn't even register with me any more as imminent destruction of the world has been going on since I was born in 1980 and became interested in these things 15 years later. We've always been living in the time of Revelations as the Christians like to think.

Until something serious happens, let me know.
Get a fucking history book fuck rod, and learn what bad times are actually like.

Rome is the obvious example because it's the only civilization that was so globalized.

But there are have been many countries that have faced economy chaos in the past, infact not many, but nearly all. Asia use to be the richest part of the world, go look the fuck as what happened their.

You ever hear of the opium wars in china(started by the brits), or the shit india was put through.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 03:28:03 AM
Get a fucking history book fuck rod, and learn what bad times are actually like.

Rome is the obvious example because it's the only civilization that was so globalized.

But there are have been many countries that have faced economy chaos in the past, infact not many, but nearly all. Asia use to be the richest part of the world, go look the fuck as what happened their.

You ever hear of the opium wars in china(started by the brits), or the shit india was put through.

Bad times? I thought this was bad times 'Ratard'. Seems pretty sweet to me  :D
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: MikMaq on March 07, 2013, 03:29:16 AM
My grandfather was a very wealthy man that retired at 45.  He was retired for 35 years before he died a few years ago at 80. Whilst my other grandfather worked for Shell. He retired at 50.

Both have done better than I have. I've never been one to compare myself to anyone. As long as I live well, I'm happy.

Though, listening to you speak, I'd be doing well anyway if I weren't popping Prozac like tic tacs and had not a penny to my name
So you bust your balls and get what my grandfather had 50 years ago, instead of having what your grandfather had 50 years ago. Lucky you.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 03:33:06 AM
So you bust your balls and get what my grandfather had 50 years ago, instead of having what your grandfather had 50 years ago. Lucky you.

That sentence makes no sense, please write it again.

I don't have to bust my balls as I enjoy my job, colleagues and the intellectual challenge. I'm in no rush to retire as both got bored sitting at home, playing golf or fishing for more than a quarter of a century. 
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: James28 on March 07, 2013, 03:35:00 AM
Anyway gentlemen, always a pleasure sparring and learning from you all but I'm afraid I must be off now.

gotta see a man about a dog and all that.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: MikMaq on March 07, 2013, 03:37:13 AM
That sentence makes no sense, please write it again.

I don't have to bust my balls as I enjoy my job, colleagues and the intellectual challenge. I'm in no rush to retire as both got bored sitting at home, playing golf or fishing for more than a quarter of a century.  
So you make claim to the merits of hard work, yet in the same thread admit that you don't actually work that hard.


TYPICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ironically it's the people that actually work hard that know how much of a waste of time it is.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 07, 2013, 03:37:17 AM
Yes dude, but can you understand why people are getting tired of listening to the same old shit all the time. Peak Oil, bird fly, swine flu, Aids, race wars, terrorism, wars, North Korea, recessions, lay-offs, Islam, Middle East, global warming, hyperinflation, bankers, murders, global elites, media manipulation, fuel prices, energy shortages, etc etc etc.

I can go on. It doesn't even register with me any more as imminent destruction of the world has been going on since I was born in 1980 and became interested in these things 15 years later. We've always been living in the time of Revelations as the Christians like to think.

Until something serious happens, let me know.
but that is the thing though something serious does happen and happens 2 or 3 times in a hundred year span and has always. We just have this way of thinking that our grandfather's generation was light years in the past but the reality is that it was just around the corner and that it's coming back, it always does.

I get what you are saying, you are sick of people crying wolf about everything and I do not pay attention to any one factor but as a history buff I know shit will hit and world will be stirred up again. Do you have any idea how many millionaires have been forced into hard labour to earn a full days wager just to eat his 3 meals per day, millions
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: tbombz on March 07, 2013, 04:15:45 AM
who works hard these days? only the people in third world countries, but they are in a situation much improved from where they used to be
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: _bruce_ on March 07, 2013, 04:18:04 AM
I did the most basic things to be prepared...

-got off my meds and been "clean" for a few months(unbelievable how weak the mind can be)
-made some contacts that are well off or armed and need backup/manpower
-have been buying beans in larger quantities since(Falcon survival tactics)

...that's it - the rest is on gods hands.

Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 07, 2013, 10:14:28 AM
The addicts are the ones to watch out for---heroin, crack. they'd do anything including kill to get their fix 

Also parents with young children. I think they would be the biggest concern.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Natural Man on March 07, 2013, 11:52:35 AM
someone s depressed so he wants the whole world to end... go have a wank then stick to playing video games and overfeed yourself with snacks, it's still the best suited lifestyle for you. When shit truly hits the fan you re not the kind of people who will survive anyway.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: freespirit on March 07, 2013, 11:52:48 AM
Are you prepared? How have you prepared yourself? I'm not talking guns and ammo. I'm talking food, water, power and medical.

BE PREPARED!

I have enough for 2 months.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Natural Man on March 07, 2013, 11:54:57 AM
I have enough for 2 months.
lol, and then what? if you cant produce/hunt your own food you depend of those who can, as simple as that.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: freespirit on March 07, 2013, 12:02:38 PM
lol, and then what? if you cant produce/hunt your own food you depend of those who can, as simple as that.

If necessary, I would put a knife true your throat if you would try to steal my supplies.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Natural Man on March 07, 2013, 12:05:32 PM
If necessary, I would put a knife true your throat if you would try to steal my supplies.
wow we have a tough guy, unfortunately for you as i can produce my own food and can hunt if required, odds are higher i d shoot the gay shit out of your face while YOU would attempt to steal food from me, genius. Have fun toying with your little knife.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: freespirit on March 07, 2013, 12:09:28 PM
wow we have a tough guy, unfortunately for you as i can produce my own food and can hunt if required, odds are higher i d shoot the gay shit out of your face while YOU would attempt to steal food from me, genius. Have fun toying with your little knife.

LOL, thanks ubergay, you hit the jackpot.  :D
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Natural Man on March 07, 2013, 12:11:39 PM
LOL, thanks ubergay, you hit the jackpot.  :D
that's all you have? Again, have fun defending your stupid cans with your little knife. You d prolly have to work for me so i eventually accept to feed you or pay you in return. But there would be competition between you and other people, so you d have to lick my ass better than them, simply because obviously you own nothing that would allow you to insure your own survival.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: freespirit on March 07, 2013, 12:13:51 PM
that's all you have? Again, have fun defending your stupid cans with your little knife. You d prolly have to work for me so i eventually accept to feed you or pay you in return. But there would be competition between you and other people, so you d have to lick my ass better than them, simply because obviously you own nothing that would allow you to insure your own survival.

Cool story bro....
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: randy841 on March 07, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
Create an oven program similar to Hitler's for all those that are subsidized or taken care of with our tax dollars in any way, shape, or form.

This includes

- Single Woman. You expect equal pay - go out their and do the same jobs men are doing. Don't expect to sit on your ass and take maternity leave for 12 months and pretend society doesn't care.

- Blacks [Blacks and Hispanics in the states]

- Black single women and their children. If you can't afford to work and support them, don't keep on popping them little fokkers like candies. A mother of 4 on welfare in Ontario, Canada gets $2700 monthly. Why the fuck work?

- Those pretending to be disabled. Unless there are missing a limb or too. Depression diagnosis (Soldiers and veterans excluded) will not suffice as an excuse, among all the other excuses modern day quacks have made up. So stop pretending. We don't give a fuck that you are depressed or stressed or on the pill.

- Anyone on any type of social welfare


Some of you would not believe what these parasitic leeches are costing the rest of society.



FURTHERMORE:

- Stop sending $ to 3rd world causes. It's their fate. What has
jesuus done for them lately?

- End wars. Stop pretending it's the Muslim boogeyman out to get you. The whities are out for one thing, and one thing only - power and control over oil. Colonialism all over.

There's enough money to go around once this socialist entitlement attitude era ends.

Here in Canada, we got the blackies in subsidized housing all over, yet they are able to spend all their money on clothes and shoes. Even the little n-i-g-g-e-r-s are dressed to the tee.

While Hitler was inspired for the wrong reasons, we should be inspired for the right reasons. A nice gas fixture for all races, colors, and creeds - is overdue in every community center.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Voice of Doom on March 07, 2013, 12:49:04 PM
who works hard these days? only the people in third world countries, but they are in a situation much improved from where they used to be

I disagree with your statement.  This year I've been to Mexico, Honduras, Belize and am currently in Costa Rica.  I've seen folks driving trucks on tiny roads and working a few hours before the sun gets too hot.  I see folks selling from little fruit stands on the road and driving touristas around.  In contrast to the States where I just finished 'death marching' a project for 16 months in Lousianna.  40 developers logging 60 hour weeks; working weekends, evenings and holidays to meet deadlines.  Sure, they have more and can buy more but that's not all there is to life.  Most of those guys live in front of their PCs, are overweight, take medication to sleep, to wake up, to keep their blood pressure in line and race around during the few hours they have to themselves trying to raise a family and 'enjoy life'.
The workers I've seen in these third world countries arent 'performance' oriented.  They work to solve a problem (like making enough money to pay the month's electricity bill) and then relax and enjoy family, the beautiful area and good food.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: MikMaq on March 07, 2013, 12:49:33 PM
wow we have a tough guy, unfortunately for you as i can produce my own food and can hunt if required, odds are higher i d shoot the gay shit out of your face while YOU would attempt to steal food from me, genius. Have fun toying with your little knife.
Your a fucking foreigner in quebec, a place known to be unsavory to people not from there. Your so fucking delusional you'd be first on the list to be shot during a hunt.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 07, 2013, 12:55:40 PM
I disagree with your statement.  This year I've been to Mexico, Honduras, Belize and am currently in Costa Rica.  I've seen folks driving trucks on tiny roads and working a few hours before the sun gets too hot.  I see folks selling from little fruit stands on the road and driving touristas around.  In contrast to the States where I just finished 'death marching' a project for 16 months in Lousianna.  40 developers logging 60 hour weeks; working weekends, evenings and holidays to meet deadlines.  Sure, they have more and can buy more but that's not all there is to life.  Most of those guys live in front of their PCs, are overweight, take medication to sleep, to wake up, to keep their blood pressure in line and race around during the few hours they have to themselves trying to raise a family and 'enjoy life'.
The workers I've seen in these third world countries arent 'performance' oriented.  They work to solve a problem (like making enough money to pay the month's electricity bill) and then relax and enjoy family, the beautiful area and good food.

Interesting^^^ how you liking Costa Rica bro? I was born in San Jose  8)
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: arce1988 on March 07, 2013, 01:19:45 PM
Also, mass psychosis. Anyone on anti-depressants, anti-anxiety meds or mind altering drugs will be fucked. Homicidal and suicidal.


^
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: oldtimer1 on March 07, 2013, 04:47:13 PM
I don't see how it would be any different for some of you guys. Some of you guys won't work now unless you are given corner office, secretary, private bathroom and a membership to the country club.  Just like now during the global economic collapse you won't have a job either.

I will play the game though. Lets say China refuses to loan us money due to their economic hardship and their fear the US is risk to repayment they stop funding our crazy spending. When our government is on the verge of collapse both the Republicans and Democrats start taxing everyone at unheard of levels. The economy starts to collapse as the number of tax paying workers falls and the amount of government taking slackers grow. Mortgages start to default as the price of real estate crumbles. The stock market that had some good months but can't sustain a bad economy tanks leaving retirement accounts busted and peoples life's saving that ultimately rely on the stock market disappears.

China's economy which is based on slave wages manufacturing products for export is busted because no one is buying. Now the second biggest economy is crashing. The second great depression happens. In the US super market shelves are nearly empty. Fuel lines at gas stations for outrageous prices sees violence. Fewer and fewer cars are on the road. Most can afford to heat or cool their houses.  Many leave cold weather areas and the rest revert to heating their houses with wood burning.  Country by country their economy collapses after China and the US fail.

The military is seen ever where as the US government is over thrown and now a military figure declares he's in charge. Riots and shooting in the streets are common. A socialist type government is declared. The only ones doing well financially are the socialist military leaders. The military takes what food and supplies they need by force from residences. It's common for the military to kick in doors and take a home owners weapons. Those who try to defend their home against the military despite small victories find their houses burned to the ground.

A revolution takes place as secret meetings are formed.  A leader rises as the common man band together. The amount of civilian gun owners is staggering. A drawn out gorilla war is goes on for years. The army is sniped at every where they are. The military with little pay start to go AWOL and many join the Resistance. Once beautiful towns look like war zones. Abandoned house after abandoned house. The death toll from the war is staggering. The Army with no tax payer money or back up starts to fail.

Victory is declared in the revolution. There are no winners. Slowly a new military with the support of the civilian revolution restores order. They allow civilian police departments to begin policing and restore order. War weary people wearing rags walk the streets like zombies happy the war is over.  It's takes 50 years but the country begins to rebuild but it will never be the same.

Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Voice of Doom on March 07, 2013, 05:35:24 PM
Interesting^^^ how you liking Costa Rica bro? I was born in San Jose  8)

Beautiful country.  More expensive than I expected. Most of the people I met are friendly and generous.  Went to the Saprissa game last week.  Bought a team jacket and asked the vendor about where to go to upgrade my ticket.  She walked me and my wife through security to the sweet seats with her employee card.  Never asked for anything in return.  Atenas is beautiful, Poas is incredible.  In Puntenaras now...sadly I found all the gringos and surf bums.  The ocean is magnificent and the weather perfect.  Heading to Arenal in a week.   The San Jose Museo Nacional is fantastic.  Got some great pics of pre-columbian art including the giant stone balls (no homo).  The rest of San Jose City felt sketchy and driving there was arguably the most dangerous thing I've ever done in my life. :)
Looking at Costa Rica for a possible resettlement but the new banking laws make it very difficult.  next trip will be Panama.  They seem more open to investment and visas.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 07, 2013, 06:50:05 PM
Ok 'Ratard'  ::)

You're a 20 something kid that's still pissed at the world for whatever reason and live in a constant state of anger. You'll mellow with age when you figure out that the only ones that gives a shit is YOU.

Birthrates plummeting? Oh hardly dear, the fuck is the world's population increasing then?

Stress levels high? Proof? Link? Or do you mean yours?

Cost of living? Gimme a fucking break. Here in London and all other major world cities that might be true, but go outside the major centres and properties and rent is stupidly low.

The health problems are due to a shitty diet, laziness to prepare healthy foods and lack of nutritional education.

Job markets has always been unstable. Do you think that's a new thing  ::). The last major company that put people before profits was IBM and that was weeks from going bust if you read Lou Gerstner's autobiography. In all fairness, I've changed my thinking on this a bit. Everyone has a right to a job, but not at all costs. You have to bring something to the table too.

Don't waste your time...
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 07, 2013, 06:53:00 PM
someone s depressed so he wants the whole world to end... go have a wank then stick to playing video games and overfeed yourself with snacks, it's still the best suited lifestyle for you. When shit truly hits the fan you re not the kind of people who will survive anyway.

This,

I'm becoming a real fan of james and uberman.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: arce1988 on March 07, 2013, 07:52:59 PM
FURTHERMORE:

- Stop sending $ to 3rd world causes. It's their fate. What has
jesus done for them lately?


^
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 07, 2013, 08:17:28 PM
I don't believe the Hierarchy will allow a straight out economic collapse. I think if it looks like that's inevitable, they'll ramp up their earthquake machines and nano weather manipulation devices and move underground and wipe out a massive amount of people in one huge sweep. The people will never really know what hit them and for the survivors, it will all be blamed on a massive earthquakes and maybe a super volcano for more shock and awe.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: OTHstrong on March 08, 2013, 12:05:00 AM
Beautiful country.  More expensive than I expected. Most of the people I met are friendly and generous.  Went to the Saprissa game last week.  Bought a team jacket and asked the vendor about where to go to upgrade my ticket.  She walked me and my wife through security to the sweet seats with her employee card.  Never asked for anything in return.  Atenas is beautiful, Poas is incredible.  In Puntenaras now...sadly I found all the gringos and surf bums.  The ocean is magnificent and the weather perfect.  Heading to Arenal in a week.   The San Jose Museo Nacional is fantastic.  Got some great pics of pre-columbian art including the giant stone balls (no homo).  The rest of San Jose City felt sketchy and driving there was arguably the most dangerous thing I've ever done in my life. :)
Looking at Costa Rica for a possible resettlement but the new banking laws make it very difficult.  next trip will be Panama.  They seem more open to investment and visas.
awesome bro, you like to travel? good stuff  8)
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Radical Plato on March 08, 2013, 12:16:29 AM
Are you prepared? How have you prepared yourself? I'm not talking guns and ammo. I'm talking food, water, power and medical.

BE PREPARED!
Earth to Nutter, Earth to Nutter, it is impossible to prepare for total economic collapse, the more resources you have in that situation, the sooner you will be slaughtered and barbecued.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Tigerblood on March 08, 2013, 12:42:46 AM
Are you prepared? How have you prepared yourself? I'm not talking guns and ammo. I'm talking food, water, power and medical.

BE PREPARED!

I'm sure the Government will take care of this themselves. Civil unrest is most likely to happen and with that comes Martial Law, which is why I believe Barack Obama and the rest of these politicians want to strip us away from our 2nd Amendment rights. I mean it' sounds a lot more convincing to declare Martial Law to a nation that is unarmed, don't you think?
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: tbombz on March 08, 2013, 04:15:41 PM
I disagree with your statement.  This year I've been to Mexico, Honduras, Belize and am currently in Costa Rica.  I've seen folks driving trucks on tiny roads and working a few hours before the sun gets too hot.  I see folks selling from little fruit stands on the road and driving touristas around.  In contrast to the States where I just finished 'death marching' a project for 16 months in Lousianna.  40 developers logging 60 hour weeks; working weekends, evenings and holidays to meet deadlines.  Sure, they have more and can buy more but that's not all there is to life.  Most of those guys live in front of their PCs, are overweight, take medication to sleep, to wake up, to keep their blood pressure in line and race around during the few hours they have to themselves trying to raise a family and 'enjoy life'.
The workers I've seen in these third world countries arent 'performance' oriented.  They work to solve a problem (like making enough money to pay the month's electricity bill) and then relax and enjoy family, the beautiful area and good food.

making a choice to spend all day "working" (can intellectual 'work' really be called 'work' in light of construction, agriculture, and other manual labor jobs?) in order to sustain an obese, luxurious modern lifestyle including several spoiled children, tv with 2k channels, 3 cars, 4 bedroom house, yearly vacations, eating out all the time, etc...   IN MY OPINION.. does not qualify for "working hard".  instead it just counts as making a voluntary decision to live a certain way in order to provide a certain lifestyle.

now, people who work 10-12+ hours per day doing manual labor, 5-6 days per week, with no days off, just to have a roof over your head and food in your families stomach. that is "working hard".   and you dont find people living like that except for in third world countries.

now, do you also find alot of lazy fuckers living in third world countries ? hell yeah. its that heritage of lazy unproductiveness that is usually the cause of their undeveloped country in the first place.

the point here is that global standard of living is higher than it has ever been, and if you live in a first world country and have made moderately reasonable decisions in life you will be living comfortably without need for too much real effort at "work" to sustain yourself.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: Jadeveon Clowney on March 08, 2013, 04:29:06 PM
if the end of the world came, wiggs would be bacon in one of your pantries - that is all, now return  to your regular programming.
Title: Re: Global economic collapse happens, what now?
Post by: HockeyFightFan on March 08, 2013, 04:43:49 PM
if the end of the world came, wiggs would be bacon in one of your pantries - that is all, now return  to your regular programming.

Fat fucking Wiggs thinks this is The Book of Eli, and he is Denzel.