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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ether on March 29, 2015, 01:49:35 PM
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He had a hot wife?
What happened to them?
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No facebook posts since Feb.22 not a good sign...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-Liberatore/113291751524
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Did he died?
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RIP
Was a great 212 competitor
Anyone know if his wife available then?
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He stopped competing and wrote 2 interesting articles about his PED use for Blackstone labs (dang, they have been removed from their page), that's all I know.
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He stopped competing and wrote 2 interesting articles about his PED use for Blackstone labs (dang, they have been removed from their page), that's all I know.
His blackstone messages were interesting
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He stopped competing and wrote 2 interesting articles about his PED use for Blackstone labs (dang, they have been removed from their page), that's all I know.
That's right totally forgot about that. That's right when they started out. Wonder if they fucked him over somehow
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His blackstone messages were interesting
You've got a copy of them? Can't find them anywhere on the interwebz :-\
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You've got a copy of them? Can't find them anywhere on the interwebz :-\
Nope sorry bro
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You've got a copy of them? Can't find them anywhere on the interwebz :-\
http://projectbodybuilding.com/forum/showthread.php?1268-Liberatore-on-Pro-Doses-Gear-Juice-Vitamin-S
Try that maybe
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guy had great build,,big arms.
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guy had great build,,big arms.
Was an amazing 212 competitor
Did he win any 212 shows?
Why did he retire?
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http://projectbodybuilding.com/forum/showthread.php?1268-Liberatore-on-Pro-Doses-Gear-Juice-Vitamin-S
Try that maybe
Great, thanks :)
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By: Mike Liberatore
Hello, Blackstone Labs! I'm happy to be here, and I couldn't wait any longer to give you a small taste of what I'll be doing here.
When I walk down the street, I get a fair amount of attention, but unless someone approaches and asks a question that attention usually goes ignored. Generally, the questions I do get are the stereotypical "How much do you bench?", or, "How big are your arms", but there are three I have seen on the boards that I often want to answer. Here they are:
Question #1: "How much drugs do pros take?"
Mike Liberatore: This is a question that I hear a lot. Well only from people that have enough nerve to actually ask me a personal or broad question. That may sound as if I'm being defensive, but I'm not. Who in the fuck are you? You ask me about my personal business or my friends? I mean really, do I ask a stranger at their place of business or if they had a work information forum, how much weed do you smoke, or how often do drink or how much porn do you watch? No, of course not, because it's rude!
So why do people feel it's ok to ask a pro bodybuilder or someone who looks like a big dude, how much Test we take?
Well I know people want to know, because they're curious. Since there are too many idiots claiming to know what every IFBB Pro take, all the while they hardly workout or better yet, "My buddy knows this pro and he says everyone in the IFBB takes ass loads of gear." I want to answer this question if only to help dismiss the urban gym myth that all IFBB Pros take outragious amounts of steroids. I also want to prevent people from following these forum guru's and their bad advice and hurting themselves for no reason. So back to the question...How much drugs do pros take?
This is a very general question, so I will put what I think is an average to low amount to start.
Offseason:
These are the amounts of these specific drugs. Not all are taken at the same time. Test is combined with Tren a lot just for the fact it's the strongest combo. EQ and Deca are added in and usually swapped for each other after 8 weeks. Orals obviously add size very quick - especially dbol or abombs. Many guys like orals, but some feel like they kill appetite too much and add too much stress onto the kidneys and liver.
Remember offseason is supposed to be lighter on the body then pre-contest. Pre-contest has more combo stacks and you are pushing hard all the way around – picture burning the candle at both ends. This is why you have to stop dieting and clean out. Your body will burn its self out and you will only get worse.
Here are some doses OFF SEASON:
Total Milligrams for Most - 2000-3000mg and higher amounts for some athletes – some even go as high as 4000mg per week!
Test (Enanthate or Cypionate) 1000-1500mg
Deca – 600mg I think everyone does this amount. Deca helps my joints. I really don't like Deca that much. It raises prolactin too much which can give you...wait for it...Deca dick LOL. Tren does the same so that's a good reason not to mix the two. Most people and pros, I'd say 90% or more, don't take anti-prolactin drugs (prami or caber). Side effects are comparable to too much estrogen and both affect each other.
Deca at 600mg/week – taking more doesn't do much except clop receptors.
Tren Enanthate at 600mg/week is good to go.
800 Equipoise is the sweet spot, but 1200-1500mg is on the high end.
50 mg Dbol or 50 Anadrol
GH – 5 to 18ius for HUMAN GRADE – Humatrope or Serostim ...the generic stuff doesn't work!
Precontest:
Just like offseason, not all are combined at the same time Not all are used, everyone is different, and like different combo's. I like Suspension/Test Prop with Tren Ace and Masteron Propionate all together the last 6 weeks - All of the above at 600mg per week. I added Super DMZ the last 3 weeks at 4 caps day. Super DMZ is a great for muscle hardness. Although unless you are peeled all the DMZ in the world won't give you the granite look everyone looks to achieve
Here is a typical pre-contest: (injectables per week - orals per day)
800-1000mg Test Prop or Test Suspension
600-800mg Tren Acetate
600-800mg Masteron Propionate
600-800 Primobolan
50mg Dbol-Anadrol
30mg Halotestin/Super DMZ or Winstrol 50mg to 200mg per day – three options
5iu HGH – HUMAN – Max 18IU – If affordable
Question #2: "If I take that much drugs, could I be a pro?"
Mike Liberatore: Hell NO!!!
Drugs do not make a person be an IFBB Pro. It's determined at the point of the sperm meeting the egg. Here is a saying that I've heard before. "NPC is the battle of genetics, the IFBB is a battle of smarter chemistry and MONEY. Everyone in the IFBB is gifted even the worst guy in the league. Even top NPC national competitors are way above the curve when it comes to genetically gifted for bodybuilding. Unfortunately, not everyone in the IFBB has Phil Heath's muscle shape and no amount of money or drugs will change someone to look like him. So if you think you can be a pro if you take a lot of drugs, then you are most likely wrong unless you are genetically gifted already.
I tell people if it takes a person to use top pro amounts to win your pro card then you won't be moving up in the IFBB. Where do you go when you use so much that using more is foolish and or dangerous? Remember, use less and train hard. If people don't believe you only take 600mg of Test because you look 2x the size of the guy in the gym who takes 1500mg, then bodybuilding is something you are good at!!!
Question #3: "Why don't pros talk about the amount of drugs they take? Why do they keep all the secrets to themselves?"
Mike Liberatore: Most pros don't talk about their drug use for the fact that drugs are illegal. Why should someone openly share their secrets? After all, information is power and money; if you don't know the way to the top, that's one less guy to worry about.
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He prepped me for my last show, great guy, super professional, I learned a lot from him.
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He prepped me for my last show, great guy, super professional, I learned a lot from him.
GOOD PIC,HE'S LARGE THERE,,
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He prepped me for my last show, great guy, super professional, I learned a lot from him.
What gear did he have you on?
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GOOD PIC,HE'S LARGE THERE,,
yeah he had to be around 250 there.What gear did he have you on?
none..didn't even recommend any supplements at all (creatine, Preworkout. .) He had me use Aqualyze by Species for my last 3 days for a diuretic.
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yeah he had to be around 250 there.none..didn't even recommend any supplements at all (creatine, Preworkout. .) He had me use Aqualyze by Species for my last 3 days for a diuretic.
Aqualyze lol
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Aqualyze lol
it worked well for me..I know he used to work with Dave Palumbo, but at the time he prepped me I think he was sponsored by GAT.
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Was an amazing 212 competitor
Guy had a decent set of arms, but no back whatsoever. The back is what seperates the boys from the men in the pro ranks. If you look like that turning around, just go home and pick up golf or tennis, you won't go anywhere.
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Guy had a decent set of arms, but no back whatsoever. The back is what seperates the boys from the men in the pro ranks. If you look like that turning around, just go home and pick up golf or tennis, you won't go anywhere.
WELL YEAH,,IVE SEEN WORSE ..BETTER THAT PUTNAMS WAS...FROM FRONT THE GUY LOOKED REALLY GOOD..
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WELL YEAH,,IVE SEEN WORSE ..BETTER THAT PUTNAMS WAS...FROM FRONT THE GUY LOOKED REALLY GOOD..
Agree. Pleasing physique. Good size. Good proportions.
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Agree. Pleasing physique. Good size. Good proportions.
Seems like a perfect 212 competitor
Wonder why he stopped?
Is he still with his wife?
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Aqualyze lol
Some inside info being given today!
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He prepped me for my last show, great guy, super professional, I learned a lot from him.
What show did you compete in? The annual starving midgets championships...? ::)
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What show did you compete in? The annual starving midgets championships...? ::)
rOFLMaO
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"Total Milligrams for Most - 2000-3000mg and higher amounts for some athletes – some even go as high as 4000mg per week!"
Sigh...another bullshit answer from a pro who claims to be "telling all".
Double that and add in all of the peptides and ancillaries on top of it.
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"Total Milligrams for Most - 2000-3000mg and higher amounts for some athletes – some even go as high as 4000mg per week!"
Sigh...another bullshit answer from a pro who claims to be "telling all".
Double that and add in all of the peptides and ancillaries on top of it.
And that's the end result...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=563178.0;attach=609242;image)
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What show did you compete in? The annual starving midgets championships...? ::)
Hahaha. ..well with his help I was able to win my second show..im very proud of my results and the improvements ive been able to make to my physique, as I said I learned a lot from Mike, im not a bodybuilder never said I was, when they created physique I honestly felt that this was tailor made for my build and the look I feel is ideal for me.
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Hahaha. ..well with his help I was able to win my second show..im very proud of my results and the improvements ive been able to make to my physique, as I said I learned a lot from Mike, im not a bodybuilder never said I was, when they created physique I honestly felt that this was tailor made for my build and the look I feel is ideal for me.
Have you ever posted any contest pics? (no homo)
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"Total Milligrams for Most - 2000-3000mg and higher amounts for some athletes – some even go as high as 4000mg per week!"
Sigh...another bullshit answer from a pro who claims to be "telling all".
Double that and add in all of the peptides and ancillaries on top of it.
Where the fuck do u put all of that oil?
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Have you ever posted any contest pics? (no homo)
yes..from my last show.
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Where the fuck do u put all of that oil?
Glutes, quads, medial delts, triceps, biceps, posterior delts, lats, traps, pecs.
The possibilities are endless.
Assuming an average concentration of 200mg/ml, 5 grams of gear would require you to pin 25cc a week.
A hassle, but certainly doable.
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Seems like a perfect 212 competitor
Wonder why he stopped?
Is he still with his wife?
What's with all the inquiries about his wife?
Are you wondering if she's ripe for the taking or something?
Or is it Mike you're after? :D ;D
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He had a hot wife?
What do you mean with "had"?
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Have you ever posted any contest pics? (no homo)
Ask that question to yourself first, affeclown ::)
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Still find it hard to believe that 4 grams of gear if hi end for a pro, like i know for a fact a few local guys here in aus who compete are on 5 grams and up, and are no where near pro level.
Even with growth and insulin.
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"Total Milligrams for Most - 2000-3000mg and higher amounts for some athletes – some even go as high as 4000mg per week!"
Sigh...another bullshit answer from a pro who claims to be "telling all".
Double that and add in all of the peptides and ancillaries on top of it.
Very true. I remember reading this when it came out and was like "pfff, whatever, weak...."
Just him trying to get his name out.
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yes..from my last show.
very nice build man. What is your height/weight?