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Bum vs Crackhead
Trash undercard with all tune up fights
Only $74.99 HD, $64.99 SD
Steven Espinoza and Al Haymon are out of their rabbit ass minds. At best this is a $19.99 fight and undercard.
8000 out of 21000 tickets sold. Failed attempt to package tickets on Groupon. $45 and street teams are up next to sell this trash fight.
Boxing fans aren't fools. They saw what Fury look like 90 days ago vs a bum, doing the Rope-A-Dope and getting touched up.
Frank Warren got Manny Pacquiao tax problems. Pretty obvious he is selling Fury ass to Haymon and Wilder for a bailout!
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Fury needed 1 maybe 2 more tune up fights against top 10 competitors before taking on the US champ.
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Styles Makes fights
Fury could give WIlder fits with movement and the jab- for a giant Fury is very fast with his hands and movement and his footwork isn't too shabby
until he runs out of gas.........
If wilder hits him clean with his right- good night
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Bum vs Crackhead
Trash undercard with all tune up fights
Only $74.99 HD, $64.99 SD
Steven Espinoza and Al Haymon are out of their rabbit ass minds. At best this is a $19.99 fight and undercard.
8000 out of 21000 tickets sold. Failed attempt to package tickets on Groupon. $45 and street teams are up next to sell this trash fight.
Boxing fans aren't fools. They saw what Fury look like 90 days ago vs a bum, doing the Rope-A-Dope and getting touched up.
Frank Warren got Manny Pacquiao tax problems. Pretty obvious he is selling Fury ass to Haymon and Wilder for a bailout!
crazy
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Wilder has that one punch power, but Fury is so big and so awkward that I think he'll outpoint Wilder in a very unpleasing fight. I don't find this fight or the rest of the card as terrible as some do until you factor in the PPV aspect. This has no business being on PPV.
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$75 lmao, fury has aged like a mother fucker, in just a few years
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Tyson_fury.jpg/220px-Tyson_fury.jpg)
(http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/sporting_news/a3/d4/tyson-fury-822018-getty-ftr_yfjmbosmtvif11vojguyoxnzb.jpg?t=-64984892)
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Wilder has that one punch power, but Fury is so big and so awkward that I think he'll outpoint Wilder in a very unpleasing fight. I don't find this fight or the rest of the card as terrible as some do until you factor in the PPV aspect. This has no business being on PPV.
They are both awkward, but one has been active and his reflexes are primed while the other one is coming off of 2 fat camps to cut 135 lbs. Fury is not the same fighter from 3 yrs ago. Wilder has 36 nice mins to detonate one right hand while fury has to keep his big head away from it.
I believe Wilder is an -150 just to win. Easy money! Fury isn't winning on the cards, and if he engages, he is going to sleep.
Heavyweight 12 rounds - Staples Center - Los Angeles, California - Showtime
Sat 12/1 501 Tyson Fury
+150
o9½ -165
11:00PM 502 Deontay Wilder
-170
u9½ +145
The fight is a setup Fury can't win. Ortiz outboxed Wilder and had a 10/8 round in the 7th but was behind on the cards going into the 10th when the stoppage occurred.
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Styles definitely do make fights, on paper Wilder has the edge due too being more consistent never actually leaving the game, everyone is saying as soon as Wilder lands the right...it’s goodnight fury, I wouldn’t be so sure he’s not punching down on a stationary target like the others he fought, (Ortiz the exception) he is a good fighter however let’s not forget he was 38-39 Years Old not exactly a fighter in his prime.
The likely outcome imo is fury will frustrate the hell out of Wilder for @ least half the fight, then that inactivity for fury will more than likely catch up with him, I don’t see Wilder just “blowing” fury away with 1 punch...he will have too hit him consecutively round after round until fury’s legs and lack of fight conditioning betray him in the later rounds.
I actually think Wilder...Joshua...and Fury are overrated the thing they all have going for them is “size” I doubt seriously all 3 of that lot would trouble the Prime 1980s-1990s Lennox-Bowe-Holyfield-Tyson, Bowe in his prime was arguably the best infighter for a big man as was Lewis from long range Holyfield was a freak and near complete all round fighter and a prime Tyson was a viscous ruthless machine
Joshua imo is just a modern version of frank Bruno with a slightly better skill set, Wilder has a great right hand and is somewhat unorthodox and fury while he can actually box...is about as exciting as watching wet paint dry...and that’s about it for that lot.
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Styles definitely do make fights, on paper Wilder has the edge due too being more consistent never actually leaving the game, everyone is saying as soon as Wilder lands the right...it’s goodnight fury, I wouldn’t be so sure he’s not punching down on a stationary target like the others he fought, (Ortiz the exception) he is a good fighter however let’s not forget he was 38-39 Years Old not exactly a fighter in his prime.
The likely outcome imo is fury will frustrate the hell out of Wilder for @ least half the fight, then that inactivity for fury will more than likely catch up with him, I don’t see Wilder just “blowing” fury away with 1 punch...he will have too hit him consecutively round after round until fury’s legs and lack of fight conditioning betray him in the later rounds.
I actually think Wilder...Joshua...and Fury are overrated the thing they all have going for them is “size” I doubt seriously all 3 of that lot would trouble the Prime 1980s-1990s Lennox-Bowe-Holyfield-Tyson, Bowe in his prime was arguably the best infighter for a big man as was Lewis from long range Holyfield was a freak and near complete all round fighter and a prime Tyson was a viscous ruthless machine
Joshua imo is just a modern version of frank Bruno with a slightly better skill set, Wilder has a great right hand and is somewhat unorthodox and fury while he can actually box...is about as exciting as watching wet paint dry...and that’s about it for that lot.
the likely outcome is closer to the gerald washington , who is about 6'7 - fury's 6'8-9, fight. wilder gets outboxed for several rounds, the fight slows down about 5-6, fury gets a bit stationery around the ropes (limit exit points), wilder holds the guard arm down (slightly illegal but the ref missed it in the GW fight), and he detonates a right (it can pretty much land anywhere). frank warren is ringside checking to see if the funds have been deposited in his account to cover his tax debts. Thank you, Al Haymon
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the likely outcome is closer to the gerald washington , who is about 6'7 - fury's 6'8-9, fight. wilder gets outboxed for several rounds, the fight slows down about 5-6, fury gets a bit stationery around the ropes (limit exit points), wilder holds the guard arm down (slightly illegal but the ref missed it in the GW fight), and he detonates a right (it can pretty much land anywhere). frank warren is ringside checking to see if the funds have been deposited in his account to cover his tax debts. Thank you, Al Haymon
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Wilder about punched him through the ropes!
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It will be a fixed fight just like cormier vs lewis
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Can see two scenarios unfolding. One being Fury gets bombed out in two rounds, unable to deal with Wilders long, winding punches, the power and speed too much for him after the lay off. Second one being Fury proves too awkward and Wilder get tired throwing punches that miss, leading to a Fury victory on points.
Can't see Fury stopping Wilder, not enough dig to his shots.
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Fury gets KOed and disappears into Bolivian. Wilder and Joshua and the rest get KOED the fuck out by a new guy that comes from nowhere and reiginites the HW boxing scene.
It will happen and when it does ill bump this.
And no its not James Stabler
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Interesting, his Szpika knock out is similar to Washington, and I believe Stiverne 2 was similar. He holds or freezes (held Szpilka's head down the left vs pulling Washington guard down) you with the left for a split second which gives him a momentary stationery target for the right. Other than that, as long as Szpika was moving, he pretty much took the other right hands.
Not allowing him to control you with his left might be a solution for staying away from a big bomb.
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The heavy weight division is a disgrace today. The top guys of today would be low level journey men in the past.
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$75 lmao, fury has aged like a mother fucker, in just a few years
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Tyson_fury.jpg/220px-Tyson_fury.jpg)
(http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/sporting_news/a3/d4/tyson-fury-822018-getty-ftr_yfjmbosmtvif11vojguyoxnzb.jpg?t=-64984892)
Falcon transformation :D
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Styles definitely do make fights, on paper Wilder has the edge due too being more consistent never actually leaving the game, everyone is saying as soon as Wilder lands the right...it’s goodnight fury, I wouldn’t be so sure he’s not punching down on a stationary target like the others he fought, (Ortiz the exception) he is a good fighter however let’s not forget he was 38-39 Years Old not exactly a fighter in his prime.
The likely outcome imo is fury will frustrate the hell out of Wilder for @ least half the fight, then that inactivity for fury will more than likely catch up with him, I don’t see Wilder just “blowing” fury away with 1 punch...he will have too hit him consecutively round after round until fury’s legs and lack of fight conditioning betray him in the later rounds.
I actually think Wilder...Joshua...and Fury are overrated the thing they all have going for them is “size” I doubt seriously all 3 of that lot would trouble the Prime 1980s-1990s Lennox-Bowe-Holyfield-Tyson, Bowe in his prime was arguably the best infighter for a big man as was Lewis from long range Holyfield was a freak and near complete all round fighter and a prime Tyson was a viscous ruthless machine
Joshua imo is just a modern version of frank Bruno with a slightly better skill set, Wilder has a great right hand and is somewhat unorthodox and fury while he can actually box...is about as exciting as watching wet paint dry...and that’s about it for that lot.
excellent analysis
I agree with you about Joshua and Bruno- AJ slightly faster hands than Frank and Aj much better power in both hands but AJ is mechanical and his head movement/defence is not that flash
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They are both awkward, but one has been active and his reflexes are primed while the other one is coming off of 2 fat camps to cut 135 lbs. Fury is not the same fighter from 3 yrs ago. Wilder has 36 nice mins to detonate one right hand while fury has to keep his big head away from it.
I believe Wilder is an -150 just to win. Easy money! Fury isn't winning on the cards, and if he engages, he is going to sleep.
Heavyweight 12 rounds - Staples Center - Los Angeles, California - Showtime
Sat 12/1 501 Tyson Fury
+150
o9½ -165
11:00PM 502 Deontay Wilder
-170
u9½ +145
The fight is a setup Fury can't win. Ortiz outboxed Wilder and had a 10/8 round in the 7th but was behind on the cards going into the 10th when the stoppage occurred.
how do these USA odds work?
does "- " mean Wilder is the underdog?
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I think it's gonna be a great fight, if Fury comes in with the right mindset I think he can win.
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Fury is good for boxing. He's what a heavyweight champ is supposed to be...flashy, over the top, knowledgable about the history of the sport, a shit talker...a character. Wilder has his strengths. He reminds of a hungry young Mike Tyson but without the technique and discipline. He strikes back hard when he gets hit...like it's personal to him. It looked he killed the Polish dude.
Both are more exciting than AJ. AJ has no charisma. He's boring, protected and won't venture out of his hometown to fight. Even if Tyson loses I think he's still got a claim to fighting again for the title at some point.
Usyk is, to me, the wild card in the heavyweight division.
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Boring fight with Fury moving and frustrating Wilder with angles until about round 6-7 when Wilder finally lands haymaker. KO 7
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Fury is good for boxing. He's what a heavyweight champ is supposed to be...flashy, over the top, knowledgable about the history of the sport, a shit talker...a character. Wilder has his strengths. He reminds of a hungry young Mike Tyson but without the technique and discipline. He strikes back hard when he gets hit...like it's personal to him. It looked he killed the Polish dude.
Both are more exciting than AJ. AJ has no charisma. He's boring, protected and won't venture out of his hometown to fight. Even if Tyson loses I think he's still got a claim to fighting again for the title at some point.
Usyk is, to me, the wild card in the heavyweight division.
Just curious but why would Canelo fight GGG in East Europe or FMW fight Manny in the Philliphines? It seems you want Joshua to fight Wilder in Alabama or something? Protected? I think Wilder not fighting Vlad at 33-0 for undisputed because he was just a baby, wasn't ready, wasn't developed, is the pure definition of protected. When last I checked, Joshua has 2 Hall of Famers on his resume, several undefeated fighters, and damn near the whole top 10 in 21 fights. I'm not getting into Wilder fighting cruiserweight journeymen 20+ fights into his career.
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how do these USA odds work?
does "- " mean Wilder is the underdog?
+ is the underdog. Fury pays $150 on a $100 bet while Wilder pays $58 on a $100 bet, I thought Wilder would be about -250 or so, the bookies would give a poor return on Wilder to get people to bite on Fury money. Ortiz fight proved that Haymon is not letting you beat Wilder on the cards if Wilder is the hometown fighter. -170 is easy money on Wilder for a straight victory by stoppage or Al Haymon cards. t
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the likely outcome is closer to the gerald washington , who is about 6'7 - fury's 6'8-9, fight. wilder gets outboxed for several rounds, the fight slows down about 5-6, fury gets a bit stationery around the ropes (limit exit points), wilder holds the guard arm down (slightly illegal but the ref missed it in the GW fight), and he detonates a right (it can pretty much land anywhere). frank warren is ringside checking to see if the funds have been deposited in his account to cover his tax debts. Thank you, Al Haymon
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tyson is more mobile than that hebrew
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tyson is more mobile than that hebrew
i guess you missed szpilka. fury is not this agile, in his current form.
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Just curious but why would Canelo fight GGG in East Europe or FMW fight Manny in the Philliphines? It seems you want Joshua to fight Wilder in Alabama or something? Protected? I think Wilder not fighting Vlad at 33-0 for undisputed because he was just a baby, wasn't ready, wasn't developed, is the pure definition of protected. When last I checked, Joshua has 2 Hall of Famers on his resume, several undefeated fighters, and damn near the whole top 10 in 21 fights. I'm not getting into Wilder fighting cruiserweight journeymen 20+ fights into his career.
Why wouldn't AJ fight outside England? He doesn't have to fight in Alabama. There's a lot of neutral cities like Munich, Tokyo, Perth, etc. Regardless of records AJ's handlers don't want Wilder. Wilder is hungry and raw and they've got a young, good looking, UK champ and can make more money by throwing over the hill, walk straight into punches, Russians at him for a few years.
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Fury is a large, flabby upper body on flamingo legs. Slaps and punches like a girl.
Wilder is a growth hormone creation who is talented but would look like a stick-man without drugs.
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Imagine Wilder V Martyn Ford! Wilder could nt hurt Ford.
Ford new WBC champ after 25 seconds.
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No one wants to fight Ford. They take one look at that tatted up bodybuilder/mma fighter and they would just forfeit the title.
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Why wouldn't AJ fight outside England? He doesn't have to fight in Alabama. There's a lot of neutral cities like Munich, Tokyo, Perth, etc. Regardless of records AJ's handlers don't want Wilder. Wilder is hungry and raw and they've got a young, good looking, UK champ and can make more money by throwing over the hill, walk straight into punches, Russians at him for a few years.
voice quite simple aj is a huge draw in england, his fights do very well there, and of as of right now is the only hw that can even draw any money , wilder cant draw flies to shit, since hw boxing in america is dead. wilder is a dumb thug as well. comes from the same brain pool as ronnie coleman
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It's a shame it didn't work out with James Stabler on bocibg6. He'd have destroyed all.
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Jesus, how bad HW are today. I hope that Usyk goes HW maybe he could save hw division.
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Jesus, how bad HW are today. I hope that Usyk goes HW maybe he could save hw division.
Da cage is where it's at...
Actually heavyweights suck there too
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https://old.reddit.com/r/BoxingStreams/
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Jesus, how bad HW are today. I hope that Usyk goes HW maybe he could save hw division.
If you think Usky is going to get away with that Lomachecko Pitty Pat Angle Pitty Pat with the big heavyweight...
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Why wouldn't AJ fight outside England? He doesn't have to fight in Alabama. There's a lot of neutral cities like Munich, Tokyo, Perth, etc. Regardless of records AJ's handlers don't want Wilder. Wilder is hungry and raw and they've got a young, good looking, UK champ and can make more money by throwing over the hill, walk straight into punches, Russians at him for a few years.
I think you missed the point. Wilder is his chief competition. That means he fights Wilder on his home field b/c he is A-Side with all the advantages like ref, judges, ring doc, promoter, momentum, etc. After that, he can go fight in Nigeria, Japan, USA as the undisputed champ.
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Bum vs Crackhead
Trash undercard with all tune up fights
Only $74.99 HD, $64.99 SD
Steven Espinoza and Al Haymon are out of their rabbit ass minds. At best this is a $19.99 fight and undercard.
8000 out of 21000 tickets sold. Failed attempt to package tickets on Groupon. $45 and street teams are up next to sell this trash fight.
Boxing fans aren't fools. They saw what Fury look like 90 days ago vs a bum, doing the Rope-A-Dope and getting touched up.
Frank Warren got Manny Pacquiao tax problems. Pretty obvious he is selling Fury ass to Haymon and Wilder for a bailout!
to the uninitiated fury looks bad in every one of his fights but his style is very effective at making his opponents look even worse. same thing against klitschko
fury is technically on a different planet to wilder but lacks power. comfortable points victory fury
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to the uninitiated fury looks bad in every one of his fights but his style is very effective at making his opponents look even worse. same thing against klitschko
fury is technically on a different planet to wilder but lacks power. comfortable points victory fury
He beat a washed up and aging Klitschko whose time was up. He didn't beat him in his prime. His time is over.
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He beat a washed up and aging Klitschko whose time was up. He didn't beat him in his prime. His time is over.
the klitschko fury beat is 10x the fighter wilder will ever be. wilder has never fought anyone world class. his best opponent to date was an ageing ortiz who at best is a solid opponent but a definitely a rung or 2 below world class. and he struggled like fk to get past him.
you'll see tomorrow night. wilder has a puncher's chance, nothing more. i can't see him winning a single round where there isn't a knockdown.
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Fury is not going to be easy for wilder. Probably wilder toughest opponent yet. Style wise Fury is tough for anyone. But I suspect the more athletic Wilder will eventually drop fury with that huge right hand. I don't know what the odds are but I'd say fury is a live under dog.
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I had a dream that, at the first bell, Fury just stood there like a stone statue and Wilder 1 punch KO'd him through the ropes. After he woke up with blood streaming from his head, he was ready to fight.
Not sure how to interpret this.
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i want fury to win because i wan to hear the black community agitated ass on monday
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They both suck bigtime but Fury sucks more.
Wilder is flat out gonna` kill Fury..............no doubt about it.
The heavyweight division is terrible with Joshua being the only decent participant. :(
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I said it before. The top heavy weights today would be nothing but journeymen years back. They would be fighting for $500 bucks on some under card in the middle of no where. It's a shame that this fight even generates interest. Fury is one of the worst heavy weights ever to put on gloves.
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I said it before. The top heavy weights today would be nothing but journeymen years back. They would be fighting for $500 bucks on some under card in the middle of no where. It's a shame that this fight even generates interest. Fury is one of the worst heavy weights ever to put on gloves.
Hi Rich,all I want to say is..................Ali,Foreman,Frazier,Norton,Liston,Holmes,Quarry,Patterson....................need I go on?
I could go on for a long time..............these guys blow! :(
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I had a dream that, at the first bell, Fury just stood there like a stone statue and Wilder 1 punch KO'd him through the ropes. After he woke up with blood streaming from his head, he was ready to fight.
Not sure how to interpret this.
Lololol
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IF Fury’s Mental state is good & he’s reasonably fit to last the 12 rounds
I can see him frustrating & leaning / tying up Wilder for a points win.
Wilder has to keep his distance & pick Fury off & He has that Big Punch.
Could be a interesting match.
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Fury has real boxing skills. Boxer vs puncher oldest matchup in the book.
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the klitschko fury beat is 10x the fighter wilder will ever be. wilder has never fought anyone world class. his best opponent to date was an ageing ortiz who at best is a solid opponent but a definitely a rung or 2 below world class. and he struggled like fk to get past him.
you'll see tomorrow night. wilder has a puncher's chance, nothing more. i can't see him winning a single round where there isn't a knockdown.
The Wilder he is fighting has poor boxing IQ but far superior reflexes to the Vlad he fought while his reflexes and timing are not up to par or at the same level when he fought Vlad. You do the math. He won't be able to keep his big head away from Wilder's right for 36 minutes.
This is Fury less than 120 days ago and another fat camp. People have lost their minds if they think this version of Fury will survive not getting touched for 36 minutes. Bob Arum has always stated boxing fans are dumb rocks.
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I see something similar to Ray Mercer - Francesco Damiani, but with Francesco winning.
It will be entertaining.
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I said it before. The top heavy weights today would be nothing but journeymen years back. They would be fighting for $500 bucks on some under card in the middle of no where. It's a shame that this fight even generates interest. Fury is one of the worst heavy weights ever to put on gloves.
He claims to be the best ever and says hes a HW Sugar Ray Leonard!!! hahaha ;D
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He claims to be the best ever and says hes a HW Sugar Ray Leonard!!! hahaha ;D
Hopefully he just is saying that to promote the fight and doesn't really believe it.
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Nice Bowe interview. :)
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great hwite hope ftw
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He claims to be the best ever and says hes a HW Sugar Ray Leonard!!! hahaha ;D
the top hws of today suck dick and lick asshole not even in the top 20 in the 90s
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A little off topic but at what point did black people all get together and decide to name all their sons something that starts with De???
Deonte
Delonte
Demarcus
Demario
Deandre
Deanthony
Demarius
Deangelo
Dejuan
Dequan
Devonte
Deshawn
Dewayne
Does this De prefix mean something? Fucking weird.
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A little off topic but at what point did black people all get together and decide to name all their sons something that starts with De???
Deonte
Delonte
Demarcus
Demario
Deandre
Deanthony
Demarius
Deangelo
Dejuan
Dequan
Devonte
Deshawn
Dewayne
Does this De prefix mean something? Fucking weird.
degrade
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Going out on a limb here, but I think Fury takes it decisively.
I despise the sloppy footwork and defense Wilder has. Call him unorthodox, I call it sloppy.
Fury isn't much better, as he doesn't move the way a Joshua would move, but I still give the better technical skills to Fury and I think he can take a hit like the best of 'em.
That being said, I can't pay for this event. It goes against my upbringing and faith. Does anyone have a link to a great streaming service?
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Going out on a limb here, but I think Fury takes it decisively.
I despise the sloppy footwork and defense Wilder has. Call him unorthodox, I call it sloppy.
Fury isn't much better, as he doesn't move the way a Joshua would move, but I still give the better technical skills to Fury and I think he can take a hit like the best of 'em.
That being said, I can't pay for this event. It goes against my upbringing and faith. Does anyone have a link to a great streaming service?
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Fury said I'm a fighting man.
I'm saying, if you're a betting man, take Wilder -185. It's easy money.
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I haven't known one AA in my life with those names or any variation of the pre-fix. As usual, you fools are on here reaching for bullshit.
Never mind that Wilder's first name is Deonte, here are some guys that are in the NBA right now. This is by no means all of them.
Demarcus Cousins
(https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/BNG-L-WARRIORS-0925-156.jpg?w=525)
Demar Derozan
(https://sportshub.cbsistatic.com/i/r/2018/09/26/c559ad3f-1aa5-4671-b50c-8ae97324194d/thumbnail/770x433/ffe1dbeb8c46adf6ced6f6f67226b59b/usatsi-11310511.jpg)
Demarre Carroll
(https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnothinbutnets.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fgetty-images%2F2017%2F07%2F637894720-utah-jazz-v-toronto-raptors.jpg.jpg&w=850&h=560&c=sc)
Deandre Ayton
(http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/sporting_news/b5/b1/deandre-ayton-ftr-jpg_1chdogqm3as0t10ka8w7dvapb6.jpg?t=-1734955200&w=960&quality=70)
Deandre Jordan
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cQ4XKGWkOLTmBl79h33uWg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/nbcsports.com/e795af998096da750c6de45d3e6a00e0)
Demetrius Jackson
(https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/sites/csnphilly/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/2018/07/27/ap-sixers-demetrius-jackson.jpg?itok=Qgryr28D)
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A little off topic but at what point did black people all get together and decide to name all their sons something that starts with De???
Deonte
Delonte
Demarcus
Demario
Deandre
Deanthony
Demarius
Deangelo
Dejuan
Dequan
Devonte
Deshawn
Dewayne
Does this De prefix mean something? Fucking weird.
You've been on the rampage against those of the negro race for the last few days. What's going on?
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You've been on the rampage against those of the negro race for the last few days. What's going on?
I love black people but it's fun to shit on them. As a people, they are pretty much a disaster.
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Going out on a limb here, but I think Fury takes it decisively.
I despise the sloppy footwork and defense Wilder has. Call him unorthodox, I call it sloppy.
Fury isn't much better, as he doesn't move the way a Joshua would move, but I still give the better technical skills to Fury and I think he can take a hit like the best of 'em.
That being said, I can't pay for this event. It goes against my upbringing and faith. Does anyone have a link to a great streaming service?
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i share the same feeling, , fury has faced way better competition, i can see him outboxing the hood rat
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Fury will win.
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I love black people but it's fun to shit on them. As a people, they are pretty much a disaster.
That's because we're cursed by God and he's been using you Gentiles to punish us. But it's ok, it won't be forever. In the end, we win.
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Any free PPV of this fight?
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Any free PPV of this fight?
Bump for a streaming link. Smart TVs make streaming fun.
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I hope this is not a fixed fight like with dc vs lewis
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Bump for a streaming link. Smart TVs make streaming fun.
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http://ripple.is/boxing/4731-deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury
Works with my IE but not with Chrome.
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Thanks, Moontrane.
I use IE and the link is working for me.
Watching the undercards right now.
Fight should start around 11:30PM EST
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http://ripple.is/boxing/4731-deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury
Works with my IE but not with Chrome.
Thanks!
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http://ripple.is/boxing/4731-deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury
Works with my IE but not with Chrome.
Thank you sir.
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Evander Holyfield is there. :o
Love the dude, but does he have any money left?
The guy has like ten kids.
He's the Ronnie Coleman of boxing.
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You're welcome, folks!
I'm going with Fury. Whatever happens, I hope it's competitive.
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WTF is Wilder wearing?
What a dick.
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WTF is Wilder wearing?
What a dick.
Wakanda represented! I can't wait for their national anthem.
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The white guy looks like he's having a good time. :)
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Fury hurt Wilder at the end of Round One.
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Fury's making martinis for Bond, James Bond.
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Fury is winning.
And the man has succulent breasts and Buddha belly. :P
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5 rounds to 1 in favor of Fury seems to be the average from what I am seeing on social media.
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Wilder lands a left hook and drops Fury in 9. Fury fights back well.
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Fury just went down in the 9th Got up. Fought back. :o
EDIT: Now they are sticking out and flicking their tongues at each other.
What the hell has happened to this sport? ::)
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I think the white dude tangled himself up dodging and tripped himself off balance.
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The tenth was a good comeback round for Fury.
He appears to be well ahead.
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Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!
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Fury's walking away with this. One round to go.
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Does Wilder even realize how far behind he is?
Dude, take some chances.
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Fury said I'm a fighting man.
I'm saying, if you're a betting man, take Wilder -185. It's easy money.
I'm just going to put this right here...
Going out on a limb here, but I think Fury takes it decisively.
I despise the sloppy footwork and defense Wilder has. Call him unorthodox, I call it sloppy.
Fury isn't much better, as he doesn't move the way a Joshua would move, but I still give the better technical skills to Fury and I think he can take a hit like the best of 'em.
That being said, I can't pay for this event. It goes against my upbringing and faith. Does anyone have a link to a great streaming service?
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HOLY SHIT. :o
Give Fury credit.
How did he get up from that second knockdown?
I thought he was done.
Dude has guts.
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I'm just going to put this right here...
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Nice.
But, wow, Wilder almost KOed him in the first minute of the last round. How'd he get up? How?
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Taking forever with the decision. >:(
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HOLY SHIT. :o
Give Fury credit.
How did he get up from that second knockdown?
I thought he was done.
Dude has guts.
That was legit. See Wilders face when he was celebrating and Fury got up? ;D
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Split dec draw. Ripoff.
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Split dec draw. Ripoff.
;D
Rematch!!
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They are calling it a draw. ::)
I knew it. ::)
Something was going on with the long delay in totaling the scores.
What the fuck was that first judge seeing? Fucking scumbag.
A total joke.
Fuck boxing. >:(
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Split dec draw. Ripoff.
piece of god damn human fucking slime decision
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They are calling it a draw. ::)
I knew it. ::)
Something was going on with the long delay in totaling the scores.
What the fuck was that first judge seeing? Fucking scumbag.
A total joke.
Fuck boxing. >:(
This is exactly why I stopped following boxing over 10 years ago.
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I can't believe they are still getting away with this shit in this day and age.
This sport is corrupt like no other.
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USA was robbed tonight!
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Wilder sounds like a fraud suggesting that those two knock downs were enough. But then again, the man doesn't box, he brawls.
Fury has just become a my new favorite boxer. Heart of a champion and great boxing technician.
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As I said in earlier post, fury is on a different planet to wilder technically and I knew wilder would struggle to win a single round where no knock down.
Fury won 9 rounds , wilder possibly nicked one 10/9 round and the two 10/8 knock down rounds. Fury won the fight 115-111.
. Couple stupid lapses of concentration by fury muddied the waters just enough for the judges to stick the fix in. But hey ho welcome to American judging folks!
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Good fight. I'd like to see a rematch. Fury''s technical expertise really showed with his fainting, foot and handwork and head movement. Very difficult guy to hit add in that hes 6'9. You can see why others have difficulty with him. Wilder had his hands full fighting a taller guy with more reach. Those two knockdowns saved him from losing. It was a draw.
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Fellas, I hear what you're saying but youreally not winning a heavyweight championship fight on points after your opponent knocked you down twice. Not gonna happen. Knockdowns especially that 12th round one holds more weight than points.
On a different note, I like both fighters personally. I've been a Fury fan for a while and think he's a great entertainer, excellent boxer and while flawed a stand up man. He's a guy I'd love to have a beer with and talk about life.
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Damn,I thought Fury was through after the second knockdown.
First time I had a decent look at him. He's a surpsingly useful heavyweight,with that huge height and reach and boxing ability.
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ROBBERY
Wilder is getting Canelo type cards. Ortiz beats the breaks off of Wilder going into the 9th and was behind on all 3 cards, 85-84. Now, this joke which is similar to Angulo Lara. There are 2 knockdowns but Lara was outboxing him and ahead on all the cards going into the stoppage, Wilder is a one-handed bum.
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Both of these guys KO that fraud AJ. Fucking pretty boy puppet, walking advertisement, now they wanna give him a statue in his home town!
Don't give that sucka no statue, GIVE HIM GUTS!
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Fellas, I hear what you're saying but youreally not winning a heavyweight championship fight on points after your opponent knocked you down twice. Not gonna happen. Knockdowns especially that 12th round one holds more weight than points.
On a different note, I like both fighters personally. I've been a Fury fan for a while and think he's a great entertainer, excellent boxer and while flawed a stand up man. He's a guy I'd love to have a beer with and talk about life.
boxing has a very simple and clear scoring system. a knockdown round is scored 10-8 unless something else pretty dramatic happens in that round (either way). if there's 2 knockdowns it's 10-7, more than two 10-6. knockdowns hold no more "weight" and score no more magical bonus points than that.
going into the 12th on a legitimate scorecard the only way wilder could win was with a knockout. as above, wilder doesn't get bonus points because it was his second knockdown of the fight or because it was a heavy knockdown. it's simply a 10-8 round and he was way too far behind for it to change te result of the fight.
anyone who knows anything about boxing knows fury won that fight by a clear margin. america is the boxing farce capital of the world, where these shtty decisions are routine.
i personally think it's time that ex pros were installed to judge these fights, especially the big ones where so much is at stake. these corrupt cockwombles they keep digging up in the states to judge these fights are making a mockery of the sport.
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BUM SQUAD
2 and half years out, lost 9 stones (130lbs?), fought 2 journeymen yet still outboxed Wilder took his shots and got back up.
Thank you Al Haymon for letting this clown Wilder hold on to the WBC belt.
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BUM SQUAD
2 and half years out, lost 9 stones (130lbs?), fought 2 journeymen yet still outboxed Wilder took his shots and got back up.
Thank you Al Haymon for letting this clown Wilder hold on to the WBC belt.
Who in heavyweight is going to outbox Fury? Fury out boxed Klitchko. Fury is an excellent boxer. Everyone knew Wilder would get outboxed. He still won. That last knockout could have been a KO if it was a different ref.
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boxing has a very simple and clear scoring system. a knockdown round is scored 10-8 unless something else pretty dramatic happens in that round (either way). if there's 2 knockdowns it's 10-7, more than two 10-6. knockdowns hold no more "weight" and score no more magical bonus points than that.
going into the 12th on a legitimate scorecard the only way wilder could win was with a knockout. as above, wilder doesn't get bonus points because it was his second knockdown of the fight or because it was a heavy knockdown. it's simply a 10-8 round and he was way too far behind for it to change te result of the fight.
anyone who knows anything about boxing knows fury won that fight by a clear margin. america is the boxing farce capital of the world, where these shtty decisions are routine.
i personally think it's time that ex pros were installed to judge these fights, especially the big ones where so much is at stake. these corrupt cockwombles they keep digging up in the states to judge these fights are making a mockery of the sport.
No one scores 10-7 on a single knockdown b/c that could let the cat out the bag, which would have judges score 10-8 rounds for dominate boxing performances which is in the rules book. 10-7 is fine for 2 knockdowns in a round and so forth
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Who in heavyweight is going to outbox Fury? Fury out boxed Klitchko. Fury is an excellent boxer. Everyone knew Wilder would get outboxed. He still won. That last knockout could have been a KO if it was a different ref.
Fury was in prime form vs Vlad, not coming off of 2 fat camps and fighting journeymen bums.
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Who in heavyweight is going to outbox Fury? Fury out boxed Klitchko. Fury is an excellent boxer. Everyone knew Wilder would get outboxed. He still won. That last knockout could have been a KO if it was a different ref.
AJ will beat both of em. AJ is technically good enough to beat fury on points and has the power and far more tools to unlock fury's defence than wilder ever has. wilder has one punch, AJ throws combinations and has devastating power in both hands.
after watching how fury did against wilder (even though a convincing winner) it wasn't the same fury that beat klitschko. i don't see fury surviving against AJ.
same thing with AJ/wilder . wilder will struggle to win a round against AJ where there's no knockdowns and AJ has way, way more power to hurt wilder than anyone he's fought thus far. wilder again will be the far inferior boxer, with a punchers chance at best.
p.s why would the 12th round knockdown have been a KO with another ref? he got up within in 10 seconds and looked to be in control of his faculties. in fact he went on to win the rest of the round as he did after the knockdown in the 9th.
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;D
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AJ will beat both of em. AJ is technically good enough to beat fury on points and has the power and far more tools to unlock fury's defence than wilder ever has. wilder has one punch, AJ throws combinations and has devastating power in both hands.
after watching how fury did against wilder (even though a convincing winner) it wasn't the same fury that beat klitschko. i don't see fury surviving against AJ.
same thing with AJ/wilder . wilder will struggle to win a round against AJ where there's no knockdowns and AJ has way, way more power to hurt wilder than anyone he's fought thus far. wilder again will be the far inferior boxer, with a punchers chance at best.
I still want to see Joshua/Wilder but I want to see Fury/Joshua just as bad. Fury''s unorthodox style thro's off everyone and he'said 3 inches taller with longer reach and weighs more. I think it would be the same story. Joshua would have to knock him out. It could happen because that last knockdown with his eyes rolling in the back of his head could have been ko. It's awesome he got up. He's a legend THE GYPSY KING.
I still think Joshua loses to Wilder. That walking down shit won't work and Wolder won be afraid to thow hand's. Joshua needs to quit hiding behind his manager and running and being afraid and fight both of these men. I think all three men are close in skill level but in different ways. Wilder didn't get to 40-0-1, and a champion falling into it. To me there's something missing that set Joshua apart the people and some media want
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i switched off at around 15 seconds when the dude said 2 knockdowns was 4 points so wilder only needed 2 more rounds to make it a draw. guy's another airhead. even if wilder won 2 more rounds apart from knockdown rounds (which he didn't) and fury won the other 8, it would still be 114-112 fury.
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I still want to see Joshua/Wilder but I want to see Fury/Joshua just as bad. Fury''s unorthodox style thro's off everyone and he'said 3 inches taller with longer reach and weighs more. I think it would be the same story. Joshua would have to knock him out. It could happen because that last knockdown with his eyes rolling in the back of his head could have been ko. It's awesome he got up. He's a legend THE GYPSY KING.
I still think Joshua loses to Wilder. That walking down shit won't work and Wolder won be afraid to thow hand's. Joshua needs to quit hiding behind his manager and running and being afraid and fight both of these men. I think all three men are close in skill level but in different ways. Wilder didn't get to 40-0-1, and a champion falling into it. To me there's something missing that set Joshua apart the people and some media want
if you analyse the klitscho/aj fight and fury/klitschko fight you may change your opinion. a pretty much general consensus is that klitscho was in better shape against AJ. klitschko underestimated fury and didn't take him seriously. that acted as a wake up call and he trained his off for the AJ fight, knowing it could be his last.
fury did a bit of a hit and run job on klitscho, he fought a clever fight and nicked the fight by a few rounds, in a fight where very few punches were landed by either.
AJ fought a better prepared wlad and dominated the first 4 rounds behind his jab. The fight went crazy from the 5th onward mainly due to AJs inexperience. but even so AJ was still ahead on the scorecards when he knocked wlad out in the 10th
AJ is technically very comfortable against the bigger guys, it's the little fellas that give him more problems. fury/aj, there will be shared rounds as they're both very good technically in different ways but AJs power will likely be the deciding factor.
aj/wilder, AJ will win pretty much every round, will likely knock wilder out as wilder has to take more and more risks as he falls further behind on the scorecards. and it will be in the UK so proper judges and no gifts like last night.
p.s wilder's 40-0-1 record doesn't mean much. he's fought all bums apart from ortiz who he was pretty lucky to get past, and then fury where he lost and got a gift....
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Jesus Christ how the fuck did fury get back up after 11 rounds of boxing the way he went down was brutal his head smashing against the canvas he looked unconscious @ the count of 2... :o :o :o
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I had 8/4, but could've been swayed to go 9/3. Fury got jerked. He's got one of those fun, awkward styles to watch.
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A fucking draw? Thanks for reminding me why I don't watch boxing anymore.
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a draw??? lol - boxing is still bent as fuck
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Fellas, I hear what you're saying but youreally not winning a heavyweight championship fight on points after your opponent knocked you down twice. Not gonna happen. Knockdowns especially that 12th round one holds more weight than points.
On a different note, I like both fighters personally. I've been a Fury fan for a while and think he's a great entertainer, excellent boxer and while flawed a stand up man. He's a guy I'd love to have a beer with and talk about life.
This is a good post ^^^. You can't expect to win the heavyweight belt from the champion getting knocked down twice. Dancing and weaving is enough in the lower weights but the crowds and judges expect the big guys to win by knockout. Fury jabbed all night but Wilder was never hurt. All props to Fury, he's a beast and great for the sport but he was put DOWN in the 12th and staggered his feet barely beating out a 8 count. Clearly, he's the better boxer but he didn't do enough to win.
And to all the butt hurt Brits...when the judges see you like this in the 12th...you're lucky not to lose.
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Mike tyson wouldve destroyed both
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Fellas, I hear what you're saying but youreally not winning a heavyweight championship fight on points after your opponent knocked you down twice. Not gonna happen. Knockdowns especially that 12th round one holds more weight than points.
On a different note, I like both fighters personally. I've been a Fury fan for a while and think he's a great entertainer, excellent boxer and while flawed a stand up man. He's a guy I'd love to have a beer with and talk about life.
peter vs klitchko???
you don't win a fight by losing every round and then getting pushed back and nearly dropped after knocking an opponent down twice.
fury won nearly every round and pushed wilder back each time he got dropped.
if they fight in 6 months fury will be sharper and without ring rust. he's clearly at around 70-80% of what he was vs klitchko. but hopefully he doesn't go off the rails again due to getting robbed after making a comeback to boxing that was greater than ali's
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tetas of peace
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ROBBERY
Wilder is getting Canelo type cards. Ortiz beats the breaks off of Wilder going into the 9th and was behind on all 3 cards, 85-84. Now, this joke which is similar to Angulo Lara. There are 2 knockdowns but Lara was outboxing him and ahead on all the cards going into the stoppage, Wilder is a one-handed bum.
calma la, your people will rise again
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tetas of peace
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Fellas, I hear what you're saying but youreally not winning a heavyweight championship fight on points after your opponent knocked you down twice. Not gonna happen. Knockdowns especially that 12th round one holds more weight than points.
On a different note, I like both fighters personally. I've been a Fury fan for a while and think he's a great entertainer, excellent boxer and while flawed a stand up man. He's a guy I'd love to have a beer with and talk about life.
Fair point about the Knock Downs they are hard to ignore
Personally I think fury should of edged it.
Though realistically What sort of a Quality Champion is Wilder
When he can’t Beat a Man who’s been inactive for 2.5yrs
With alsorts of Drug / Mental / weight problems has had 2 meaningless
Warm up Fights - And Takes A Supposedly World Champ The Distance
And out Boxed Him.
Wilder should be ashamed & retire
If they have a rematch it doesn’t bode well for Him.
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I'll say this which may contrast my opinion about the results. That judge that had fury losing the first 6 rounds should be fired. That's 100% bullshit.
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Fair point about the Knock Downs they are hard to ignore
Personally I think fury should of edged it.
Though realistically What sort of a Quality Champion is Wilder
When he can’t Beat a Man who’s been inactive for 2.5yrs
With alsorts of Drug / Mental / weight problems has had 2 meaningless
Warm up Fights - And Takes A Supposedly World Champ The Distance
And out Boxed Him.
Wilder should be ashamed & retire
If they have a rematch it doesn’t bode well for Him.
Fury exposes everyone.
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is there any point in a rematch?
AJ needs to fight Wilder and get KO'd by Wilder.
then WIlder can give Fury another shot
AJ is not as good defensively as FUry and his chin is weak
AJ is ducking wilder- waiting for him to get beat up/old
Fury, give the man credit, has a cast iron chin, quite amazing
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Fair point about the Knock Downs they are hard to ignore
Personally I think fury should of edged it.
Though realistically What sort of a Quality Champion is Wilder
When he can’t Beat a Man who’s been inactive for 2.5yrs
With alsorts of Drug / Mental / weight problems has had 2 meaningless
Warm up Fights - And Takes A Supposedly World Champ The Distance
And out Boxed Him.
Wilder should be ashamed & retire
If they have a rematch it doesn’t bode well for Him.
Fury is a quality boxer, Wilder shouldn't feel ashamed
WIlder is not a greattechnical boxer, for sure he has flaws, which along with his KO power, make him an exciting fighter to watch
I's rather see Wilder fight in exciting fights than watch a boring defensive minded fighter like FMW
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is there any point in a rematch?
AJ needs to fight Wilder and get KO'd by Wilder.
then WIlder can give Fury another shot
AJ is not as good defensively as FUry and his chin is weak
AJ is ducking wilder- waiting for him to get beat up/old
Fury, give the man credit, has a cast iron chin, quite amazing
you people talk utter shyte. you only need to look at AJ and wilder's respective records to see which one isn't afraid to take on all comers
AJ in half the fights of wilder already has 3 of the belts, has fought a legend in klitschko, another current belt holder in parker...povetkin, whyte. it took wilder till his 40th fight to even fight a live opponent in ortiz (a 40 yr old).
wilder is terrible, he has a puncher's chance against anybody and good heart but he's just an awful boxer. the likes of whyte, chisora, povetkin, takam, possibly parker would probably all out box him. and they're all a good couple rungs below aj.
aj will systematically take wilder apart. he will get exposed as badly technically as he did against fury but aj unlike fury will have the power to put him to sleep.
i truly hope wilder fights aj on 13th april next year. fk the rematch with fury. it's well overdue for this ridiculously overrated wilder to get knocked the fk out.
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p.s wilder's 40-0-1 record doesn't mean much. he's fought all bums apart from ortiz who he was pretty lucky to get past, and then fury where he lost and got a gift....
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
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Only in this era of multiple meaningless “World Titles” could Wilder be A Champion
If you believe differently You don’t Know Much.
He was very fortunate to beat a 50yr old Ortiz ( if he’s not older)
And was outboxed by Fury who hasn’t had a decent fight in 3yrs.
Wilders an embarrassment to “ Championship Boxing” I wish Fury
Would’ve Sparked Him Out & Put an End to this Fiasco.
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Only in this era of multiple meaningless “World Titles” could Wilder be A Champion
If you believe differently You don’t Know Much.
He was very fortunate to beat a 50yr old Ortiz ( if he’s not older)
And was outboxed by Fury who hasn’t had a decent fight in 3yrs.
Wilders an embarrassment to “ Championship Boxing” I wish Fury
Would’ve Sparked Him Out & Put an End to this Fiasco.
id agree with that wilder can punch....that’s it...very poor defensively, off balance, and looked more awkward than usual against a taller guy in fury that showed him angles, feints and swift foot work.
Take a look @ wilders expression every time he came back too his corner...he looked totally lost confused and flat out demoralised all that “anger” fire and destructive mind set was....gone.
the general consensus is IMO is IF a rematch could actually be made within the next 6-7 months and Fury doesn’t fall off the rails again id assume he should drop another 10-15lbs witch should bye the laws of average give fury more hand and foot speed, more mobility though a more streamlined mid section etc etc,
IF...he could accomplish that it’s very possible he’d comfortably out box wilder too a very lop sided decision as it was...he totally out boxed and out classed wilder ANYWAY for more or less 85% of the fight.
In regards too wilder...What more can wilder actually improve on for a potential rematch @ this point? he will always carry that power and turn the lights @ anytime that’s something he definitely has going for him but the fact he must of thrown a couple hundred right hands...
and basically hit nothing but fresh air has too have played on his mind though out the fight and let’s not forget Fury STILL isn’t properly in shape yet.
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i truly hope wilder fights aj on 13th april next year. fk the rematch with fury. it's well overdue for this ridiculously overrated wilder to get knocked the fk out.
Kudos! The last thing boxing needs is for Wilder to get lucky in the AJ fight. Wilder could possibly be the worst undisputed champion in the history of boxing.
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Kudos! The last thing boxing needs is for Wilder to get lucky in the AJ fight. Wilder could possibly be the worst undisputed champion in the history of boxing.
well it is possible, as poor as wilder is he has a puncher's chance against anyone. but if it were to happen then not only would he be the worst undisputed champion in history, you'd have to say this is the worst era in HW boxing too.
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Thought Fury won but two knock-downs in the champ's backyard is always likely to be costly.
AJ would beat Wilder as long as he fights sensibly and avoids getting drawn into a brawl. AJ-Fury would be a more difficult fight to predict since Fury is deceptively slick.
Would still rate AJ as the best HW right now. Tony Yoka should be a threat within a few years.
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This was not a great fight. Not a candidate for fight of the year. It was a good and compelling fight. Overall, I'd say it delivered. The scoring was pretty bad. The judge who had it 8-4 for Fury is pretty accurate. The judge who had it 7-5 really had to stretch to make it a draw. The judge who only had Fury winning 5 rounds, should never judge again. Period. I had it 9-3 Fury but could have possible given Wilder one more round or won less. 10-2 Fury would have been reasonable. Fury really can box. Good movement and very fast hands. Great recuperative power and pretty good chin. Wilder takes a pretty good shot, has stamina and lots of heart. Considering he didn't start boxing til he was an adult and gives up 30-40 pounds in just about every fight, I'd say is pretty remarkable. The fact that 210 pound heavyweight is stalking guys so much bigger than him is worth noting. That right hand is something. Left hook is no slouch either. He just gets to exited in the ring. He has the perfect teacher in Mark Breland. If Wilder learns to calm down in the ring and pump the jab consistently, his power shots will fall into place. These are big ifs given he's already 33. Time will tell. It's nice to have 3 undefeated heavyweights who all seem willing to make fights.