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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1400 on: April 19, 2021, 07:06:45 PM »

It's not arranged that way. Low level medical people in general are doing what they know. Some are excited to be in the spotlight. Medical admins are happy that funding is just falling from the sky to treat this while people who need preventive medical care sit at home. There are some like Fauci that absolutely understand the politics of it all.

There was a point where it was decided to run with this mask and lockdown nonsense regardless of the science around mid-March 2020. That's when Fauci and the politicians changed their stories. The resulting money printing started almost immediately and went to the big banks FIRST. The question is why?

Science is not a top-down tyrannical scheme where some guy give some orders and everyone has to follow through.

New information is debated and revised all the time. Science is not static nor absolute. It changes as new information flows in.

Your claim assumes most if not all health professionals in the entire world are mindless sheep. Nope. Doesn't work like that.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1401 on: April 19, 2021, 07:15:25 PM »
That’s exactly what happened in New York City. The mayor and the health commissioner had been downplaying it and then suddenly it became the end of the world.

Uno is too far gone. Anybody who still believes a Joe Biden and  Fauci at this point is a true believer.

I refuted SOMEPARTS post (see above).

Both you and him are assuming medical knowledge is some kind of top-down tyrannical scheme. That's not how things work, and there's something very, very wrong with that type of deductive reasoning.

Medical science is peer-reviewed and constantly revised.

Unless you can explain (pro tip: you can't) how the conspiracy came to be in every single country and medical institution in the whole world, then your "theory" is just mere speculation.

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« Reply #1402 on: April 19, 2021, 07:25:19 PM »
Anyway. Enough for today.

As suspected, conspiracy theories on Getbig collapse at the most superficial of the analysis.

They can only work when assuming extraordinary situations and behavior, on a global scale. Which of course, takes some extreme imagination.

For the record, my position of course is that the virus is real. It's been more damaging in some countries, although the reasons are not well known. Most young people are safe, but a minority can be very susceptible so it's up to you guys to take precautions. Me, I have a lot of relatives in their old age so I prefer to not contract the virus.

Have a great week Getbiggers .

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« Reply #1403 on: April 19, 2021, 07:42:13 PM »
Make 3 posts in a row and run off like you won something eh?  ;D

All can be summed up with this ... although some have gotten big egos "medical professionals" do not run the world and the(bought and paid for) politician's mantra is "never let a good crisis go to waste". Safe to say all this is not entirely about public health.

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« Reply #1404 on: April 20, 2021, 02:08:16 AM »
Make 3 posts in a row and run off like you won something eh?  ;D

All can be summed up with this ... although some have gotten big egos "medical professionals" do not run the world and the(bought and paid for) politician's mantra is "never let a good crisis go to waste". Safe to say all this is not entirely about public health.

A year ago he was saying Covid was ten times more deadly than the flu. Another a big mouth know it all who is wrong about everything. Probably a government or university worker.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1405 on: April 21, 2021, 07:39:06 AM »
A year ago he was saying Covid was ten times more deadly than the flu. Another a big mouth know it all who is wrong about everything. Probably a government or university worker.



The kind of person who would get the shot after already having Covid just to fit in.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1406 on: April 21, 2021, 08:48:00 AM »
The COVID-19 Disaster That Did Not Happen in Texas
Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2021 | Jacob Sullum



When Texas Gov. Greg Abbott lifted his statewide face mask mandate and his limits on business occupancy in early March, Democrats warned that he was inviting a public health disaster. Yet, a month and a half later, newly identified coronavirus cases in Texas have fallen by more than 50 percent, and daily deaths have dropped even more.

Meanwhile, states with stricter COVID-19 regulations have seen spikes in daily new cases. This is not the pattern you would expect to see if government-imposed restrictions played a crucial role in curtailing the pandemic, as advocates of those policies assume.

Abbott's critics did not mince words. President Joe Biden said the governor's decision reflected "Neanderthal thinking." Gilberto Hinojosa, chairman of the Texas Democratic Party, said it was "extraordinarily dangerous" and "will kill Texans."

One reason those dark prophecies have not come true: The practical impact of Abbott's changes was much less significant than his detractors implied.

Most businesses in Texas had been allowed to operate at 75% of capacity since mid-October when Abbott also allowed bars to reopen. It was implausible that removing the cap would have much of an impact on virus transmission, even in businesses that were frequently hitting the 75% limit.

While Abbott said Texans would no longer be legally required to cover their faces in public, he urged them to keep doing so, and many businesses continued to require masks. At the stores I visit in Dallas, there has been no noticeable change in policy or in customer compliance.

Conversely, face mask mandates and occupancy limits did not prevent COVID-19 surges in states such as Michigan, where the seven-day average of newly confirmed infections has risen more than fivefold since March 1; Maine, which has seen a nearly threefold increase; and Minnesota, where that number has more than doubled. Cases also rose during that period, although less dramatically, in other states with relatively strict COVID-19 rules, including Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Washington.

Florida, a state often criticized as lax, also has seen a significant increase in daily new cases: 34% since mid-March. But Florida, despite its relatively old population, still has a per capita COVID-19 death rate only a bit higher than California's, even though the latter state's restrictions have been much more sweeping and prolonged.

In any event, COVID-19 surges are happening mainly in states with more legal restrictions than Florida or Texas is imposing. The Washington Post nevertheless says experts agree that rising infection numbers are largely due to "a broad loosening of public health measures, such as mask mandates and limits on indoor dining" -- a claim that is tenable only if you ignore all the countervailing examples.

States differ from each other in various ways that may affect the spread of COVID-19, of course, so you can learn only so much from comparisons like these. But several systematic studies have cast doubt on the effectiveness of broad legal restrictions.

While some researchers have concluded that lockdowns had an important impact, others say there is little or no evidence that they affected mortality rates or trends in cases. According to a Nature Human Behaviour study of 226 countries published in November, "a suitable combination of NPIs (nonpharmaceutical interventions) is necessary to curb the spread of the virus," but "less disruptive and costly NPIs can be as effective as more intrusive, drastic ones (for example, a national lockdown)."

In a 2020 National Bureau of Economic Research paper, UCLA economist Andrew Atkeson and two other researchers looked at COVID-19 trends in 23 countries and 25 U.S. states that had seen more than 1,000 deaths from the disease by late July. After finding little evidence that variations in public policy explained the course of the epidemic in different places, they concluded that the role of legal restrictions "is likely overstated."

That much seems safe to say in light of more recent experience in the United States.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1407 on: April 21, 2021, 09:25:53 AM »
Florida has been proving this lockdown stuff wrong from the start. You can believe if there was a crisis to be made of anything in California they would be using it.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1408 on: April 21, 2021, 11:11:05 AM »
It's all shit. It was always only ever shit. 

Just a lie told by cowards to other cowards.

Fuck, if I had an army of 1,000 real killers I could take over this entire gutless country. Who would stop me? 

Cowards.
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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1411 on: April 22, 2021, 05:17:54 AM »
Via New York Times


April 22, 2021


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Good morning. We’re looking at two Covid questions people may have heading into summer.


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Should you still be wearing a mask outdoors? And how should you reorient your family’s life once the adults have been vaccinated but the children have not yet been?

Those are two Covid-19 questions on many people’s minds, and The Times has just published two stories that address them, based on interviews with experts. A common theme is that it’s OK to start making some changes to your behavior and loosening up in careful ways — or at least to begin thinking about it.

A mask outdoors?

On the issue of outdoor mask wearing, it helps to review a basic fact: There are few if any documented cases of brief outdoor interactions leading to Covid transmission. If you’re passing other people on a sidewalk or sitting near them on a park bench, the exposure of exhaled particles appears to be too small to lead to infection.

“Viral particles quickly disperse in outdoor air, and the risk of inhaling aerosolized virus from a jogger or passers-by are negligible,” my colleague Tara Parker-Pope writes, citing an interview she did with Linsey Marr of Virginia Tech. As Dr. Muge Cevik, an infectious-disease expert at the University of St. Andrews, says, outdoors is “not where the infection and transmission occurs.”

Still, why not try to eliminate even a minuscule potential risk and tell people to wear a mask at all times? Because that’s not an effective way to reduce overall risk. “I think the guidelines should be based on science and practicality,” Marr said. “People only have so much bandwidth to think about precautions.”

There are still important precautions to take, ones that are much more based in science than universal mask wearing. Unvaccinated people should wear masks when in close conversation with people outside their family — even outdoors — and should almost always wear a mask when indoors and not at home. Vaccinated people should continue to wear a mask in many indoor situations, to help contribute to a culture of mask wearing. It’s the decent thing to do when more than half of Americans still are not vaccinated.

Tara’s story includes a delightful graphic that summarizes the advice.

Vaccinated adults, unvaccinated kids

The second question — about what activities unvaccinated children can resume — may be even thornier.

By early this summer, nearly every U.S. adult who wants to be vaccinated will have had the opportunity, but most children will not have gotten a shot. (For now, no children under 16 are eligible.) This combination will create complex decisions for many families — about whether to send children to day care, get together with friends and relatives, eat in restaurants or travel on airplanes, as I describe in an article for the Sunday Review section.

Some families will choose to remain extremely cautious. Others will decide to start resuming many activities. My central argument is that both decisions are grounded in science.

On the one hand, Covid is a new disease, with uncertain long-term effects, which argues for caution. On the other hand, the risks to children appear to be extremely low, which argues for a move toward normalcy. For most children, Covid presents no more risk than a normal flu season, the data suggests.

These charts compare the share of estimated Covid cases that have been fatal, by age group, with the estimated share of fatal flu cases. As you can see, Covid has exacted a brutal toll on adults, far worse than any flu season — but the picture for children is very different:


By The New York Times | Sources: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Stephen Kissler, Youyang Gu, and other researchers
As with outdoor masks, extreme caution has its own downsides. Months of additional isolation would not be good for families, multiple studies have suggested. Isolation makes it harder for parents to return to work and harder for children to learn, develop social skills and be happy.

In the article, I quote two Covid experts who say that they will not keep their own children cooped up until they are vaccinated. “It’s really important to look at a child’s overall health rather than a Covid-only perspective,” Dr. Amesh Adalja, another expert, at Johns Hopkins University, said. If you let your children go to school during flu season, let them travel in a car or let them go swimming, you’re probably exposing them to more risk than Covid presents to them.

I understand why many people will continue to exercise more caution than the data suggests is necessary (and, to be clear, caution with children is vital until more adults have had the chance to get a vaccine). Covid has been horrible, arguably worse than any other infectious disease in living memory, and it is not over. “We’ve been so traumatized by all of this,” Gregg Gonsalves, a Yale epidemiologist, told Tara Parker-Pope. “I think we need to have a little bit of compassion for the people having trouble letting go.”

Compassion is a good concept. At this stage in the pandemic, different people are going to start making different decisions, and many of those decisions will be defensible. Before lashing out at behavior that is different from your own, maybe it’s worth pausing to ask whether compassion is the better response.

The full article has more details and charts about the trade-offs for children.


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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1413 on: April 22, 2021, 10:27:09 AM »
https://blogs.jwatch.org/hiv-id-observations/index.php/is-it-time-to-eliminate-outdoor-mask-mandates/2021/04/19/?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210422&instance_id=29540&nl=the-morning&regi_id=64767382&segment_id=56081&te=1&user_id=f1d5c2515b8c8be945d6b170398f8228


YET - here we are.   Idiots still wearing face diapers outside.,

Brother come to California. 9 out of every 10 cowards wears a mask outside, by themselves, riding a bicycle, every place they go. They are scared shitless.
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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1414 on: April 22, 2021, 10:53:18 AM »
Brother come to California. 9 out of every 10 cowards wears a mask outside, by themselves, riding a bicycle, every place they go. They are scared shitless.

Same here in NYC - its pathetic and unbelievable

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1415 on: April 22, 2021, 01:10:25 PM »
This is going to be the next thing w these criminal liberal pos delaying opening up.  They will claim we can't open up until everyone gets a shot which will be never. At this point, w the vax available to everyone, we should just let the chips fall where they may.   You want it?  Great.   You don't wan't it?   Great.  Enough is enough.

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Gov. Wolf says Pa. faces ‘new reality’ — a lack of people who want COVID-19 vaccine
Pennlive ^ | 22 April A.D. 2021 | David Wenner
Posted on 4/22/2021, 3:43:06


Gov. Tom Wolf on Thursday described a sudden drop in demand for COVID-19 vaccines, with places around the state that had waiting lists a few weeks ago now able to offer plenty of next-day appointments.

“Now we’re in a new phase. The line is a lot shorter than it was. The supply is a lot better than it was. We need to recognize that new reality,” he said.

Wolf said state officials noticed the drop off last week. It prompted the decision to open vaccine eligibility to everyone 16 and older as of last Tuesday, nearly a week earlier than planned.

Yet even after greatly expanding the eligibility pool, demand is still down, said Dr. Gerald Maloney, the chief medical officer for Montour County-based Geisinger Health System.

He said next-day appointments are available; not long ago Geisinger was booked several weeks out.

“We seem to be at the point where most of the people who want to be vaccinated, in the eligible group, have come forward and been vaccinated,” Maloney said.

He said “vaccine hesitancy is a major problem right now.”

Maloney expressed grave concern over the situation, saying Pennsylvania needs to get to the level of least 70% of residents being vaccinated and, ideally, around 90%.

That would make it highly unlikely people will pass COVID-19 to others. Moreover, people who aren’t vaccinated can enable COVID-19 to mutate into more contagious and dangerous strains, and possibly strains that aren’t blocked by existing vaccines.

“It’s the unvaccinated people who become infected who give rise to the variants,” he said.

Wolf said about 45% of eligible Pennsylvanians have received at least a first dose, above the national average of 40%, and about 27% are fully vaccinated, also above the national average.

However, Wolf and other state officials said Thursday the state is about to launch an effort to persuade people such as those who are convinced the vaccine is unsafe or unnecessary. Many of them are located in rural counties. Wolf said the state must also continue reaching racial minorities and those in impoverished communities who face barriers to getting vaccinated or are reluctant.

Wolf and several other state officials were trying to further that effort Thursday during a visit to See Right Pharmacy in uptown Harrisburg.

They described plans to work with a range of people and organizations, from local elected officials to clergy to local doctors and pharmacists who are trusted and in position to convince people COVID-19 vaccine is well-tested, safe and beneficial.

“I’m not resigned to anybody not getting a shot,” Wolf said.

He cited the fact that well over 80% of Pennsylvania seniors are vaccinated as cause for optimism.

“We should not resign ourselves to less than the numbers we need to get to herd immunity,” Wolf said, adding that “more and more people recognize this is not just about them.”

“You’re doing this as an act of compassion. You’re actually doing something that’s going to help people around you and that’s really important, because the sooner we can get to that point the sooner we can get back to normal,” Wolf said.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1416 on: April 22, 2021, 01:21:12 PM »
Yes, at this point the scared shitless/brainwashed half of the country have taken it. The only way to get the other half of non-believers in the flu cult to abide is by removing access and rights or by force.




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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1417 on: April 22, 2021, 03:28:03 PM »
This is going to be the next thing w these criminal liberal pos delaying opening up.  They will claim we can't open up until everyone gets a shot which will be never. At this point, w the vax available to everyone, we should just let the chips fall where they may.   You want it?  Great.   You don't wan't it?   Great.  Enough is enough.

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Gov. Wolf says Pa. faces ‘new reality’ — a lack of people who want COVID-19 vaccine
Pennlive ^ | 22 April A.D. 2021 | David Wenner
Posted on 4/22/2021, 3:43:06


Gov. Tom Wolf on Thursday described a sudden drop in demand for COVID-19 vaccines, with places around the state that had waiting lists a few weeks ago now able to offer plenty of next-day appointments.

“Now we’re in a new phase. The line is a lot shorter than it was. The supply is a lot better than it was. We need to recognize that new reality,” he said.

Wolf said state officials noticed the drop off last week. It prompted the decision to open vaccine eligibility to everyone 16 and older as of last Tuesday, nearly a week earlier than planned.

Yet even after greatly expanding the eligibility pool, demand is still down, said Dr. Gerald Maloney, the chief medical officer for Montour County-based Geisinger Health System.

He said next-day appointments are available; not long ago Geisinger was booked several weeks out.

“We seem to be at the point where most of the people who want to be vaccinated, in the eligible group, have come forward and been vaccinated,” Maloney said.

He said “vaccine hesitancy is a major problem right now.”

Maloney expressed grave concern over the situation, saying Pennsylvania needs to get to the level of least 70% of residents being vaccinated and, ideally, around 90%.

That would make it highly unlikely people will pass COVID-19 to others. Moreover, people who aren’t vaccinated can enable COVID-19 to mutate into more contagious and dangerous strains, and possibly strains that aren’t blocked by existing vaccines.

“It’s the unvaccinated people who become infected who give rise to the variants,” he said.

Wolf said about 45% of eligible Pennsylvanians have received at least a first dose, above the national average of 40%, and about 27% are fully vaccinated, also above the national average.

However, Wolf and other state officials said Thursday the state is about to launch an effort to persuade people such as those who are convinced the vaccine is unsafe or unnecessary. Many of them are located in rural counties. Wolf said the state must also continue reaching racial minorities and those in impoverished communities who face barriers to getting vaccinated or are reluctant.

Wolf and several other state officials were trying to further that effort Thursday during a visit to See Right Pharmacy in uptown Harrisburg.

They described plans to work with a range of people and organizations, from local elected officials to clergy to local doctors and pharmacists who are trusted and in position to convince people COVID-19 vaccine is well-tested, safe and beneficial.

“I’m not resigned to anybody not getting a shot,” Wolf said.

He cited the fact that well over 80% of Pennsylvania seniors are vaccinated as cause for optimism.

“We should not resign ourselves to less than the numbers we need to get to herd immunity,” Wolf said, adding that “more and more people recognize this is not just about them.”

“You’re doing this as an act of compassion. You’re actually doing something that’s going to help people around you and that’s really important, because the sooner we can get to that point the sooner we can get back to normal,” Wolf said.


Well... considering the fact that the VID vaxx is still considered a "clinical trial".... and clinical trials need control groups...


I'm volunteering to be in the control group that does NOT get the vaxx....


Clinical Trials aren't "valid" unless there's something to compare to...LOL


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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1418 on: April 22, 2021, 03:40:15 PM »
They can take their “doses” and jam them up their asses.

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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1419 on: April 22, 2021, 08:16:33 PM »

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« Reply #1420 on: April 23, 2021, 07:23:43 AM »
https://slate.com/technology/2021/04/masks-outside-covid-risk-low.html


Now you know this is over.   Even Slate is saying masks are not needed outside, 

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« Reply #1421 on: April 23, 2021, 07:51:46 AM »
This is going to be the next thing w these criminal liberal pos delaying opening up.  They will claim we can't open up until everyone gets a shot which will be never. At this point, w the vax available to everyone, we should just let the chips fall where they may.   You want it?  Great.   You don't wan't it?   Great.  Enough is enough.

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Gov. Wolf says Pa. faces ‘new reality’ — a lack of people who want COVID-19 vaccine
Pennlive ^ | 22 April A.D. 2021 | David Wenner
Posted on 4/22/2021, 3:43:06


Gov. Tom Wolf on Thursday described a sudden drop in demand for COVID-19 vaccines, with places around the state that had waiting lists a few weeks ago now able to offer plenty of next-day appointments.

“Now we’re in a new phase. The line is a lot shorter than it was. The supply is a lot better than it was. We need to recognize that new reality,” he said.

Wolf said state officials noticed the drop off last week. It prompted the decision to open vaccine eligibility to everyone 16 and older as of last Tuesday, nearly a week earlier than planned.

Yet even after greatly expanding the eligibility pool, demand is still down, said Dr. Gerald Maloney, the chief medical officer for Montour County-based Geisinger Health System.

He said next-day appointments are available; not long ago Geisinger was booked several weeks out.

“We seem to be at the point where most of the people who want to be vaccinated, in the eligible group, have come forward and been vaccinated,” Maloney said.

He said “vaccine hesitancy is a major problem right now.”

Maloney expressed grave concern over the situation, saying Pennsylvania needs to get to the level of least 70% of residents being vaccinated and, ideally, around 90%.

That would make it highly unlikely people will pass COVID-19 to others. Moreover, people who aren’t vaccinated can enable COVID-19 to mutate into more contagious and dangerous strains, and possibly strains that aren’t blocked by existing vaccines.

“It’s the unvaccinated people who become infected who give rise to the variants,” he said.

Wolf said about 45% of eligible Pennsylvanians have received at least a first dose, above the national average of 40%, and about 27% are fully vaccinated, also above the national average.

However, Wolf and other state officials said Thursday the state is about to launch an effort to persuade people such as those who are convinced the vaccine is unsafe or unnecessary. Many of them are located in rural counties. Wolf said the state must also continue reaching racial minorities and those in impoverished communities who face barriers to getting vaccinated or are reluctant.

Wolf and several other state officials were trying to further that effort Thursday during a visit to See Right Pharmacy in uptown Harrisburg.

They described plans to work with a range of people and organizations, from local elected officials to clergy to local doctors and pharmacists who are trusted and in position to convince people COVID-19 vaccine is well-tested, safe and beneficial.

“I’m not resigned to anybody not getting a shot,” Wolf said.

He cited the fact that well over 80% of Pennsylvania seniors are vaccinated as cause for optimism.

“We should not resign ourselves to less than the numbers we need to get to herd immunity,” Wolf said, adding that “more and more people recognize this is not just about them.”

“You’re doing this as an act of compassion. You’re actually doing something that’s going to help people around you and that’s really important, because the sooner we can get to that point the sooner we can get back to normal,” Wolf said.


Is the Governor correct in saying that unvaccinated people give rise to covid variants?

Is this based in medical fact or is it just his medical opinion?


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Re: Coronavirus - Two Words - "Mystery" and "Virus" from China
« Reply #1422 on: April 23, 2021, 08:24:39 AM »

Is the Governor correct in saying that unvaccinated people give rise to covid variants?


Yes and no.

Currently the variants are coming from unvaccinated individuals, but if eventually everyone were vaccinated then variants would come from the 10% of the vaccinated individuals who are still susceptible to covid.

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« Reply #1423 on: April 23, 2021, 10:25:45 AM »

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« Reply #1424 on: April 23, 2021, 10:47:31 AM »
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