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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2021, 08:56:00 AM »
tearing his bicep and triceps probably saved his life

And this was the "lifesaver" for JP Fux then I guess...? ::)


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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2021, 09:20:12 AM »
rip schmoe fighting oilsack

LOL

I interviewed this guy in the late 90s. Seemed like an OK fella.

But I have heard about his “perversions”.

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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2021, 09:30:02 AM »
I'm curious if anyone here even knows anyone who has died of COVID, given the average age of death is 85.

Nobody. Not one person.  And I know everyfuckingbody.

20+ people I know have tested positive.  One of them was hospitalized. One. He walked out two days later.

It's all bullshit.

Death by influenza, heart disease, systemic organ failure, emphysema, and cardiovascular disease have miraculously dropped by 97 percent.  It's a miracle! 
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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2021, 09:31:38 AM »
Schmidt died of cancer. What did that have to do with steroids?
  steroids might be an accelerator for cancer cells just like they speed up muscle cells , just a theory ,I could be wrong.
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2021, 09:37:24 AM »
  steroids might be an accelerator for cancer cells just like they speed up muscle cells , just a theory ,I could be wrong.
   
     first guy that they attributed steroids to his early death.   Tom Sansone

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Born October 20, 1935

Died October 16, 1974

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Mr National Collegiate - AAU, Winner

1955

Mr National Capital - AAU, 3rd
Mr New York Metropolitan - AAU, Winner
Mr New York State - AAU, Winner

1956

Mr America - AAU, 20th
Mr New York City - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York City - AAU, Tall, 1st

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Mr America - AAU, 4th
Mr Eastern America - AAU, Tall, 2nd

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Mr America - AAU, Winner
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Junior Mr America - AAU, East , 1st

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Mr Universe - NABBA, Overall Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Tall, 1st

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1958 September   Vol 18, Num 2   IronMan
1958 November       Strength and Health
1958 December   Vol 1, Num 9   Mr America
1959 January   Vol 2, Num 2   Muscle Sculpture
1959 February   Vol 1, Num 6   Muscle Builder
1959 March   Vol 1, Num 7   Muscle Builder
1959 May       Strength and Health
1959 December   Vol 3, Num 1   Muscle Sculpture
1960 May       Strength and Health
1963 February   Vol 22, Num 3   IronMan
1963 June       Strength and Health
1963 October   Vol 92, Num 21   Health and Strength
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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2021, 09:38:27 AM »
Muscular Development, Vol 12, No 1, Page 24, January 1975

The Demise Of Tom Sansone
THE TRAGIC NEWS shocked us!

Tom Sansone, Mr. America of 1958 died . . . and still only in his thirties. It just couldn't be we thought; Tom, we heard, was always in fairly good shape, rugged and strong.

It was late July when we first heard that Tom was in hard training and making the kind of gains that every weight trainee strives to achieve. But something wasn't right. Tom used to complain about internal pain and it bothered him considerably for months, all the while growing more intense. He then got a medical checkup which proved that one kidney was badly infected and there were other complications. But the doctors couldn't even guess the seriousness of his condition because even at this stage Tom was indeed a massive, muscular specimen and terminal cancer was the farthest thing from their minds. An exploratory operation was suggested to determine the seriousness of the condition and to mend the kidney if possible.

What they found was not very encouraging. One kidney was removed, part of his lungs had to be cut away and there some complications about Tom's heart.

Yet for a time, Tom seemed to rally. He came out of the operation in fine shape and those who visited him after his surgery said he looked great and looked like he would make it. He had none of the "dragged out, drawn feeling" that most people who undergo surgery show, especially those who undergo major surgery. Everyone who saw Tom felt that after another few days rest, he would be on the road to complete recovery. Even the doctors were optimistic although they did inform Tom that he had cancer, then adding that they felt sure they removed all the infected areas and that his chances for complete recovery were excellent.

A short time later we received a call from a concerned friend who said that Tom's case was terminal and that it was only a matter of weeks. This was hard news to accept and we felt sure that it was only a rumor, an error, so we promptly forgot it. Instead we expected to hear news of how Tom was back in training again and making good progress in his training. So it was with some shock that the tragic news of Tom's death on October 16th hit us. We were really disturbed and the news was most difficult to accept but facts are facts and there was no way we could alter them.

The sad details of Tom's death could not be pieced together immediately, and even now the facts are not clear except that Tom was just another cancer victim in spite of his massiveness and muscularity.

As many readers may recall, Tom began training as a teenager and during the early 50s he made an impact in physique contests around New York City. By mid-summer of 1956 he developed sufficiently enough to win the Mr. New York City title, which was always of great importance. Two years later he entered and won the Mr. America contest, which proved to be another great achievement for him. Then London was the scene for two more great victories. In 1963 he won the amateur Mr. Universe crown there and sometime later he went back to garner the professional title.

That, to our knowledge, was the last time that Tom participated in a physique contest, although we had heard that he always stayed in great shape, since working in a health studio afforded him a better opportunity than any other vocation. However, we had heard rumors that Tom smoked a lot and was addicted to using tissue building drugs - steroids. When he was hospitalized we heard more of such rumors. If Tom was a steroid user, and there was evidence to prove that he did take anabolics, there can be no doubt that this contributed to his untimely death at 38 years of age. The sad facts remain that while steroids can and do stimulate tissue growth, these steroids are unable to differentiate between benign and malignant cells and the reaction is the same on both...stimulating and encouraging growth! [THIS IS FALSE]

It's very possible that Tom's internal system harbored cancer cells that laid dormant and just waiting for a catalyst of some sort to send them off on a tangent, and such a catalyst is the anabolic drug - steroids.

It's really sad and kind of frightening to think what some bodybuilders will do just to gain a couple extra pounds or put on an extra quarter-inch of muscle here and there. Dedication is fine, but to try and build your body at the risk of losing your life is downright idiotic!

It's really unfortunate that anyone should be so rock-headed as to assume that he can beat the odds, although he may . . . for a time. Eventually, however, it will get to him and then what would be the purpose of all that training, sweating and sacrificing when, in the end, he winds up dead and all he leaves behind are some unpaid bills!

Tom's is not an isolated case. It's happened before and continues to happen but little is heard about them. One of our men (some years ago) started taking these drugs without supervision and for no apparent reason except, "I feel better when taking them" he said. This "better" feeling didn't last too long, however, because the cancer cells which were lying dormant in his lower duodenum started to grow, stimulated by the anabolics he took and hastened his demise!

Actually in his case his muscles or strength never responded very much to the drug, and when he finally underwent surgery, he never recovered, leaving this mortal coil with nothing but a big hospital and doctor bill. Moreover, had he survived long enough to see himself, and to see exactly how much size he lost aver undergoing surgery, I am sure that this would have made him turn over and die for he could never stand to lose even one-eighth of an inch anywhere. In his case he lost everything, everywhere and all his previous efforts for years went for naught! Whatta utter waste of time and effort!

Don't let it happen to you. Leave all drugs alone and train sensibly. It may take a little longer but you won't be running any great risks.

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- Some exercise pictures selected from the Tom Sansone file, all of which were taken during the time he wrote and posed for his Mr. America series in S&H magazine.

- An impressive pose of the late Tom Sansone.

- Tom as he worked in one of the health studios instructing one of the students.

Muscular Development, Vol 12, No 3, Page 7, May 1975

Mail From Muscledom
To the Staff of MD:

I have just read your article on "The Demise of Tom Sansone" and I must take exception to the entire premise of your story. If you wanted to pay tribute to Tom's memory, you should have gotten in touch with someone who knows the true story at first hand and not someone with hearsay information.

Tom was first stricken with a pain in the left kidney area in June 1974 and not months before. He immediately went through a series of tests which showed a tumor had grown around the kidney - an infection it wasn't. Subsequent tests showed it had already spread to the Vena Cava and into the chamber of the heart as well as both lungs. A lung biopsy showed that the cancerous tissue was a type of childhood tumor called Wilm's Tumor, somewhat common in children and less common in adults. The mother cell are based in the kidney and had spread from there.

The doctors knew from the onset what it was so whoever told you they "couldn't even guess" was all wrong. There was no exploratory operation. The doctors, some of the best in the United States, decided to remove the kidney, clean out the Vena Cava (a major vein from the kidney area) and perform open heart surgery. They couldn't do any radical lung surgery at all. They treated the lung tumor with chemicals.

For you to try to convince people not to use questionable medicine and drugs is commendable but to have readers infer that Tom died because you think or heard he used steroids borders on libel. To print rumors or innuendo that Tom was "addicted" to steroids in unforgivable and the lowest form of journalism not to mention defamation of character.

I can tell you right now that the only "addiction" he had was to desiccated liver tablets, vitamins and wholesome foods. He also consumed huge quantities of milk.

Following your questionable "logic", these wholesome foods may have acted as the "catalyst for stimulating and encouraging growth". Taken one step further we can also assume that the hundreds of children who die yearly from Wilm's Tumor also used steroids and that we may expect thousands of men and women to die from the same tumor because there doctors prescribed steroids for their various ills. Your premise is totally absurd and downright idiotic.

It is really unfortunate that you could be so rock-headed to print unfounded rumors and uneducated guesses to defame a man who is loved and respected by all who knew him.

What makes you think you know the cause of cancer when the brightest minds in medical science do not know?

I was with Tom throughout most of his life and with him daily during his ordeal and we tried to figure out what the trigger was for this disease. We couldn't come up with any evidence either.

I hope you have the courage and good sense to print this letter in its entirety even though you may be pictured as a misinformed and unprofessional in your journalistic approach to researching an article.

Looking forward to reading your magazine, I remain, Tom's brother.

Joseph Sansone
E. Northport, N.Y.

The facts concerning the death of Tom Sansone, Mr. America 1958, as given by his brother Joseph, certainly must be correct. We sincerely regret that our information came from three reporters, none of whom were sufficiently experienced in properly verifying there information.

Joseph's letter should clear up and doubts and give readers the actual facts which differ from MD's unintentional and seemingly unfair account. - Editor

Thirty years later, there is no evidence that anabolic steroids cause or contribute to cancer.
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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2021, 11:13:13 AM »
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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2021, 11:25:08 AM »
I know three people who died of Covid. One was a buddy of mine in his late 40s, he was otherwise perfectly healthy; one of my faculty died about 6 months ago; and the Dean of Admissions at my university died in December.  The latter two were in their 60s.  By the time you’re in your 60s other health issues are probably at play, but to the people who knew them they were apparently healthy and fully functional until Covid cut them down.

Not sure how old Brad was, or what he looked like in recent years, but very sorry to hear of his passing.  I believe he was married for many years and apparently his wife knew of his side hustle (pun intended) and was ok with it.  R.I.P. Big guy.  :'(

Just to be clear - and to address your post, and the other Covid-19 posts here - I'm not saying Covid-19 isn't real. I'm just trying to point out that it is an extremely low lethality virus, and the fact that after one full year, you and others can point to only a few people that died is proof of that.

Here in Canada, we are spending one BILLION dollars a day in deficit spending to deal with COVID. Ok...why not build ONE NEW HOSPITAL - hell, ONE NEW ICU BED for our public health system, if COVID is such a great threat???

Why did Ontario only JUST NOW close the non-essential section of Wal-Mart? If a bookstore can't be open during this pandemic, why should Wal-Mart be able to sell books?

Why is the government forcing people to wear face coverings, yet not giving out proper N95 masks by 3M during this time? Those are the best facemasks available.

Beyond that, our government continually opens things up, just to close them, and people WILL lose their small businesses if this continues for another 6-12 months [what I originally predicted as the maximum most people can sustain not being able to work].

Nothing stopped your friends from locking themselves in their homes forever - and all the measures that were in place didn't prevent their deaths.

In 2019, Canada and Sweden were in a race to the bottom on Woke stuff and all that - now, in a strange turn of events, Sweden is the most sane country in the West. Kwon must be laughing at Canadians right now.  ;D [if he wasn't already - which he should have been].

But I do think COVID is real. It's just that with a 99.73% survival rate in most demographics, this is not a pandemic worth the economic loss it caused.

Soon, individual states will open up, get exactly the same results as those with the strictest measures being enforced, and all those clown states [and full clown countries, like Canada] will be forced to open up.

We can't live in a fake stimulus economy forever. Canada sure is trying to though.  ::)

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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2021, 11:49:23 AM »
So sorry to hear of Brad's passing. He was a hardcore bodybuilder and I always wanted to have those peaked biceps he bad.

As for the COVID-19, I have known two women that contracted the virus. One was in her late 30s and the other in her early 50s. One of them believes she caught it from her children and the other believes she caught it on a gas pump handle. The older woman saw on TV last year where Trump had a roundtable with COVID survivors and a retired NFL player said he was exposed to the virus through the gas pump handle.
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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2021, 11:53:56 AM »
so we don't know why he died yet??

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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2021, 12:24:16 PM »
so we don't know why he died yet??

For us.  He died for us.

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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2021, 12:38:29 PM »
And his hairline.
And his libido.

Hollibaugh was a good athlete back in the day.  I believe he won the state wrestling title in Idaho before going all in on bodybuilding.  He had a cool website back years ago but I couldn't understand why men would hire him to come to their house and "train" them.  I was very naive. :-[

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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2021, 01:04:46 PM »
Schmidt died of cancer. What did that have to do with steroids?

Specifically, he died of lung cancer. And - maybe an Oceana Getbigger can fill me in - but I think he was an enforcer for a cocaine mogul.

I believe I heard that Sonny also smoked crack.

Again, anyone can feel free to correct me here.

Sonny was in jail when he had cancer, but Shawn Ray said he was released from prison to spend his final days with his family, in the Ironage Getbig thread on Sonny's death - since gone from the boards, but possibly attainable on www.archive.org.

Do I think steroids degraded his system, and took some time off his life? Yeah, probably. Would he have lived to 80 had he never competed, but had still smoked crack, if that story is true? I would think not.

But ultimately all I meant was this:

Sonny Schmidt was the first "chemical era" bodybuilder to die. And many, many more followed.

Sonny, as you pointed out, may not be the greatest example of steroidal excess being the major cause of death.

So you are correct to say Sonny's death is a loose correlation. But, as far as I know, Sonny was indeed the first "Dorian era" [chemical era] bodybuilder to have died.

Am I missing anyone?

2004 seems to be when bodybuilders started dying at a rate making it very hard for me to state that steroids and other PEDs in high numbers did NOT play a role.

Incidentally, that is the same year that John Romano asked "Where are the bodies?" on that HBO documentary.

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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2021, 01:41:41 PM »
Matt, there are some statements elsewhere (no details) that Hollibaugh had a prior kidney transplant or liver transplant. Do you have any insights on that?

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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2021, 01:46:36 PM »
  steroids might be an accelerator for cancer cells just like they speed up muscle cells , just a theory ,I could be wrong.

Growth Hormone too

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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2021, 02:01:15 PM »
What's the story on the woman? Did the 27 year old have health issues?

Not that anyone knew about - she wasn't overweight or taking insulin shots, so nothing visible - but there may have been things that she kept to herself.  Or I suppose at that age she could easily have had undiagnosed things like BP or heart issues

If there are sides to pick in this thing, I'm on the side of 'this doesn't affect people without underlying health issues' - so (based on absolutely nothing of course) I would choose to assume one of the above must have applied
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« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2021, 02:02:11 PM »
And this was the "lifesaver" for JP Fux then I guess...? ::)

Why the eye roll? Yes, that probably did save JP, given he only competed once again in 2004 at the Night of Champions, if I recall correctly.

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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2021, 02:06:03 PM »

I can tell you right now that the only "addiction" he had was to desiccated liver tablets, vitamins and wholesome foods. He also consumed huge quantities of milk.


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« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2021, 02:25:14 PM »
Matt, there are some statements elsewhere (no details) that Hollibaugh had a prior kidney transplant or liver transplant. Do you have any insights on that?

He talked to DA years ago about his kidney trouble -

https://www.blogtalkradio.com/dashow/2013/01/18/dashow-118-guest-brad-hollibaugh .

DASHOW 118 BACK FROM THE DEAD TALKING ABOUT ALL DIFFERENT TOPICS HEALTH RELATED,SUPPLEMENTS,THE INDUSTRY,RUMORS GOSSIP AND ANYTHING ELSE THATS ON MY MIND ONE THING YOULL ALWAYS GET IS THE TRUTH...

GUEST BRAD HOLLIBAUGH WILL BE OPENING UP TELLING ALL THE STUFF HE IS GOING THROUGH. ANOTHER CRAZY STORY FROM A 300 POUND PLUS BODYBUILDER. GREAT GUY AND A CLASS ACT.TALKING ABOUT HIS BATTLE WITH DIALYSIS AND STILL STAYING 300 PLUS POUNDS WORKING HARD AND DETERMINED TO GET A KIDNEY. AND AMAZING STORY A MUST LISTEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPONSORING THE SHOW WILL BE LIVELONGSUPPLEMENTS THERE SITE CHECK IT OUT CONTACT THEM SAY YOUR A DASHOW LISTENER GET A 30% DISCOUNT..........

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« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2021, 02:43:50 PM »
He talked to DA years ago about his kidney trouble -

https://www.blogtalkradio.com/dashow/2013/01/18/dashow-118-guest-brad-hollibaugh .

DASHOW 118 BACK FROM THE DEAD TALKING ABOUT ALL DIFFERENT TOPICS HEALTH RELATED,SUPPLEMENTS,THE INDUSTRY,RUMORS GOSSIP AND ANYTHING ELSE THATS ON MY MIND ONE THING YOULL ALWAYS GET IS THE TRUTH...

GUEST BRAD HOLLIBAUGH WILL BE OPENING UP TELLING ALL THE STUFF HE IS GOING THROUGH. ANOTHER CRAZY STORY FROM A 300 POUND PLUS BODYBUILDER. GREAT GUY AND A CLASS ACT.TALKING ABOUT HIS BATTLE WITH DIALYSIS AND STILL STAYING 300 PLUS POUNDS WORKING HARD AND DETERMINED TO GET A KIDNEY. AND AMAZING STORY A MUST LISTEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPONSORING THE SHOW WILL BE LIVELONGSUPPLEMENTS THERE SITE CHECK IT OUT CONTACT THEM SAY YOUR A DASHOW LISTENER GET A 30% DISCOUNT..........


You know, years ago I wondered if I had the body dysmorphia thing - always critical of myself, always trying to improve

But statements like the above mean I now realise that I did not - the mental illness level required to maintain damaging habits to the extent that you put yourself in the ground is very real and of a different level...
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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2021, 03:19:16 PM »
Matt, there are some statements elsewhere (no details) that Hollibaugh had a prior kidney transplant or liver transplant. Do you have any insights on that?

He had end stage renal disease and received dialysis.

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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2021, 04:18:59 PM »
I'm curious if anyone here even knows anyone who has died of COVID, given the average age of death is 85.

I know 4 people

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« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2021, 04:19:06 PM »
He had end stage renal disease and received dialysis.


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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2021, 09:49:19 PM »
Seriously who gives a fuck. An Orange hair blush wearing fuckhead catering to fags long before Onlyfans won’t be missed.

And such a thought leader!! His contributions to Schmoeism will be sorely missed. The work he did benefiting others will soon be forgotten.
Another one dead at the hands of those dangerous doctors!  ???

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Re: Brad Hollibaugh - RIP.
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2021, 09:58:30 PM »
At this rate steroids will kill more people than covid  :'(

Palumbo will claim that steroids don’t cause deaths in bodybuilders. He also claimed Dallas’ death was mostly a result of bad genetics, not 10g of gear. He’s a fake fkn reporter