All things "Birther" Thread

[Dos Equis]

If this one is fake and a forgery - maybe he was right?   

lol.  Hey remember when you said if he released his BC this all goes away, and I said no, people would just claim it's a forgery?   

[OzmO]

lol.  Hey remember when you said if he released his BC this all goes away, and I said no, people would just claim it's a forgery?   

quoted for prophesy 

[Dos Equis]

quoted for prophesy 

Hey we only have one prophet on this board:  El Profeta.   

[Soul Crusher]

Jerome Corsi: Sources Say Hawaii Forged Obama's Certificate of Live Birth Placed It In DOH Book
Birther Report ^ | May 18, 2011 | Birther Report



Video: Dr. Jerome Corsi: Obama's birth certificate is 100% forged; Inside sources say Hawaii made Obama's forged Certificate of Live Birth and placed it in the Hawaii DOH book. The interview was on the Peter Boyles show and aired on 5/18/11.


(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords. blogspot.com ...

[225for70]

Message from the Obama team i recived via to discredit Corsi

GetbigAZ--

 Let me introduce you to Jerome Corsi.

 This week he released a new book that the publisher says will be a bestseller "of historic proportions."

 The title is "Where's the Birth Certificate?" -- yes, really.

 Corsi's work is a greatest-hits reel of delusions, ranging from 9/11 conspiracies to claiming that there is an infinite supply of oil in the Earth's core. In 2008, he published a book about Barack Obama claiming, among other things, that he (a) is a secret Muslim; (b) is secretly anti-military; (c) secretly dealt drugs; and (d) secretly supported terrorist actions when he was eight years old. So many secrets!

 FactCheck.org called Corsi's work "a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods."

 There's really no way to make this stuff completely go away. The only thing we can do is laugh at it -- and make sure as many other people as possible are in on the joke.

 So let's just do this -- get your Obama birth certificate mug here:



https://donate.barackobama.com/USA-Made-Mug

 Last year, the President said, "I can't spend all of my time with my birth certificate plastered on my forehead."

 This is about as close as we can get.

 If the facts can't make these ridiculous smears go away, we can at least have a little fun with it.

 And then we'll get back to the important work of supporting the President as he tackles real problems like high gas prices, the deficit, and unemployment.

 Thanks,

 Julianna

 Julianna Smoot
 Deputy Campaign Manager
 Obama for America

[Soul Crusher]

I got that crap today too and just started laughing my ass off.   

They must be worried about something in his book coming out.   

[225for70]

I got that crap today too and just started laughing my ass off.   

They must be worried about something in his book coming out.   

Why address the book if they have nothing to hide? 

Do you get the emails from the obama team just for laughs?

[Soul Crusher]

Why address the book if they have nothing to hide? 

Do you get the emails from the obama team just for laughs?

Pretty much.  Most of my laughs stem from the fact that I know Straw, Benny, KC, Blacken, and Chad get the same emails and fall for that crap.   

 

[Soul Crusher]

Corsi Book An Important One
american thinker ^ | 5/18/11 | Jack Cashill

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Jerome Corsi's much-anticipated book, Where's the Birth Certificate?, is important in ways that go beyond the eligibility of Barack Obama to be president of the United States. That question the book addresses but cannot quite resolve.

Perhaps more importantly, the book illuminates the David and Goliath dust-up between old school journalists like Corsi and the anti-journalists who now dominates the media. Although the outcome remains in doubt, the terms of battle do not. And unless those terms are changed, the Goliath media will continue its inexorable drift towards Pravda-style journalism.

Corsi's book could help level the battlefield. He is the Joe Friday of reporters, "Just the facts, ma'm." Even the skeptical reader will have to appreciate how conscientiously he makes his case that Barack Obama's eligibility is by no means a given. And for all its attention to detail, the book is well paced and always engaging.

In the way of disclosure, Corsi and I are both affiliated with the journal at the center of the controversy, WorldNetDaily (WND), Corsi more formally than I. WND Books, in fact, published Where's the Birth Certificate? I chose Simon & Schuster for my recent book, Deconstructing Obama, thinking that its reputation would help me penetrate the anti-journalism force field that protects the president. I was kidding myself.

As I have come to learn firsthand, the anti-journalist does not seek to report the news. The anti-journalist attacks the people who do report the news or, just as likely, ignores them completely. When in attack mode, the anti-journalist disregards the facts and dismisses the fact finder as partisan, whacko, reckless, and inevitably, in regard to Obama, racist. No reporter in America knows this form of abuse better than Harvard Ph.D. Jerome Corsi.

Corsi does not deserve it. In his book, he carefully walks the reader through what would seem to be an important issue, a candidate's constitutional eligibility to be president of the United States. As Corsi documents, that issue certainly seemed important when John McCain emerged as the likely Republican nominee for president in 2008.

"McCain's Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out," screamed a New York Times headline in late February 2008, one of many such articles questioning McCain's eligibility. The United States Senate took the question seriously enough to hold hearings on the matter, and even after the Senate decided in McCain's favor, the Washington Post questioned whether "Senate Resolution 511 was sufficient to prove that McCain was a natural-born citizen."

Corsi provides a useful history into the thinking that informed Article 2, Section 1 of the United States Constitution, the natural-born citizenship clause. In brief, the founders did not want a president with divided loyalties. Regardless of where Obama was born, the fact that his presumed father was a British citizen at the time of Obama's birth, and had every intention of remaining one, made Obama's case at least as worthy of adjudication as McCain's.

But that was not to be. From the beginning, one questioned Obama's eligibility, indeed any of his credentials, at his own risk. The introductory section of Corsi's book shows those who may have forgotten with what incredible impunity the Obama campaign was allowed to proceed.

In March 2008, contract employees for the State Department were caught breaching the passport files of the three still viable presidential candidates, Obama, McCain, and Hillary Clinton. While the media allowed Obama to pontificate about the sanctity of confidential records, they spared the public the knowledge that Obama's file was uniquely visited on three occasions and that that visitor just happened to work for Obama adviser John Brennan, now Deputy National Security Adviser. Two weeks later, Obama first disclosed that he had visited Pakistan in 1981, a fact curiously missing from both of his books. The media predictably averted their gaze.

Unlike every other candidate in modern presidential history, Obama did not choose to share any of his essential documents, and the media happily obliged him. As Corsi details, Obama has shielded those records involved with his adoption, his kindergarten, Punahou School, Occidental College, his passport and travel, Columbia University (including his senior thesis), Harvard Law School, his medical history, his Chicago law practice, his State Senate career, as well as his SAT and LSAT scores, and, until recently, his very birth certificate.

Then, too, there is the question of Obama's Connecticut-based Social Security number, a question that Corsi tackles, but the media inevitably dodge.

In a telling incident from late October 2007, the New York Times offered the then underdog Obama a chance to reconcile the account of his New York years in Dreams from My Father with the accounts of those who knew him. "Yet he declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years."

A campaign spokesman, Ben LaBolt, offered a conspicuously lame explanation for Obama's reticence: "He doesn't remember the names of a lot of people in his life." Lame or not, it worked. Obama's indifference to the facts on the ground may have shocked the Times, but it did not exactly shock the Times or any other media outlet into action.

Ironically, of course, Obama won his U.S. Senate seat in Illinois only after the Chicago Tribune, likely at the prodding of Team Obama, forced both his primary and then his general election opponent to unseal their unseemly, and ultimately lethal, divorce records.

Of all the records, however, none is important as the birth certificate, the ultimate symbol of Obama's cryptic origins. Until the release of the birth certificate on April 27, I had assumed that Obama was born in, if not Hawaii, at least in the United States, the State of Washington, where he was first sighted as a three-week-old by his mother's friends.

A series of events has made me question my assumptions. One is the release a week after the birth certificate of A Singular Woman, the book about Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham. I had expected the book's author, New York Times reporter Janny Scott, to clarify any remaining questions about Obama's birth given her two-plus years of research. In fact, however, she does the opposite.

Scott describes the Maui wedding of Obama's presumed parents with the word "reportedly." She tells us not one word about Dunham's whereabouts from the February 1961 wedding to the August 1961 birth. She offers no baby pictures, no tales of trips to the hospital or anxious grandparents, no account of how Dunham got from Hawaii to Seattle. Indeed, Scott purposely fudges the timeline of Dunham's Seattle exodus. Scott almost forces the informed reader to wonder what she is hiding.

The recent posting of Barack Obama Sr.'s INS records has likewise increased my skepticism. In September 2010, Heather Smathers of the Arizona Independent requested these records through the Freedom of Information Act. She received them in CD form on April 18, 2011, and posted them on April 26. The next day Obama produced his birth certificate.

In the 55-page release, only one page is fully handwritten by an INS official. That memo conveniently insists that "Barack Obama II" -- the same odd locution as on the birth certificate -- was born in Honolulu on "8/4/1961."

Most problematic is the content of the dramatically released birth certificate. Corsi does an excellent job documenting the many efforts made to keep that certificate from public view, efforts that put huge demands on Hawaii officialdom, engaged federal courts in needless ways, and, most inexcusably, sent Lt. Col. Terry Lakin to prison. If the birth certificate is, in fact, as innocuous as it appears, a real reporter has to ask why all the efforts to conceal it.

A real reporter also has to at least examine a document this controversial and long concealed. These past few weeks, Corsi and WND have been doing just that with interesting results. Meanwhile, the anti-journalists sit back and snipe at them. And the least sensible of these snipers, alas, are the anti-journalists of the right.

[225for70]

My copy of the book is on the way...However, I'm extremely busy and won't be able to read the book any time soon..

[225for70]

A QUESTION OF ELIGIBILITY
White House panic: Corsi book targeted
'Fight the Smears' 2.0 launched, mocks No. 1 best-seller as delusional 'joke'
Posted: May 18, 2011
4:41 pm Eastern

© 2011 WND

 
Why is the White House in full defense mode against a book by a small publisher contending Barack Obama is not legally eligible to be president?

Today, the Obama re-election campaign launched an all-out attack on a brand new book critical of Obama, "Where's the Birth Certificate," by bestselling author Jerome Corsi, Ph.D., calling it delusional, laughable and a "joke"... even as it climbed to No. 17 overall, No. 3 in non-fiction and No. 10 in the Kindle version at Amazon.com.

If this sounds like major déjà vu, it's because the Obama election campaign did exactly the same thing in 2008 when it mobilized a major assault on Corsi's previous book about Obama, the No. 1 New York Times bestseller "The Obama Nation." And that was a response to the impact of his previous No. 1 New York Times bestseller, "Unfit for Command."

Jerome Corsi's new book,  "Where's the Birth Certificate?", is now available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore

Today's attack by the Obama machine on Corsi's latest and most controversial book was introduced as an offering to sell Obama supporters a T-shirt or coffee mug with an image of the Obama "Certificate of Live Birth" released several weeks ago as well as a portrait of Obama, stamped "Made in America."

In an e-mail dispatched from BarackObama.com this morning, Julianna Smoot proclaims, "You'll like this one."

"Let me introduce you to Jerome Corsi," she says. "This week he released a new book that the publisher says will be a bestseller 'of historic proportions.' The title is 'Where's the Birth Certificate?' – yes, really.

"Corsi's work is a greatest-hits reel of delusions, ranging from 9/11 conspiracies to claiming that there is an infinite supply of oil in the Earth's core. In 2008, he published a book about Barack Obama claiming, among other things, that he (a) is a secret Muslim; (b) is secretly anti-military; (c) secretly dealt drugs; and (d) secretly supported terrorist actions when he was eight years old. So many secrets."

The email tells recipients, "The only thing we can do is laugh at it – and make sure as many other people as possible are in on the joke."

(Story continues below)


 
    

 

Then it asks supporters to donate $30 or more to Obama in exchange for a "limited edition" shirt.

The Obama email, and purchase offer:


The Obama email


This is not the first White House reaction to Corsi's latest book. The president himself confirmed that he ordered the release of the "certificate" right after the bestselling "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is Not Eligible to be President" was profiled on the Drudge Report and reached No. 1 on Amazon.

So, why the Obama organization's attack against this particular book, when there are so many other hot-selling books that are also very critical of Obama?

"If what Barack Obama released is really a valid birth certificate that answers all the questions about this controversy, why is the Obama campaign in attack mode on Jerome Corsi's bestselling book?" asks Joseph Farah, CEO of WND.com and WND Books, publisher of "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

"Because he fears it is his undoing. Do you really think the $1 billion Obama campaign cares about selling a few coffee mugs? Give me a break. This is an effort to derail media attention from a successful book and media tour that is focusing renewed attention on his ineligibility for office."

Just an hour earlier, Esquire, the Hearst Corporation-owned 79-year-old national magazine, published a fabricated report attacking the Corsi book.

Esquire, which endorsed Obama for president in 2008, claimed falsely in the story that "Where's the Birth Certificate?" was being "pulled from [bookstore] shelves," was being disavowed by the publisher who was offering refunds to customers, and that all copies were being destroyed.

The magazine later claimed it had "committed satire" but not until after a number of major news organizations apparently accepted the report as genuine and contacted WND Books for reaction.

At the Political Punch blog on the ABC News website, Jake Tapper reported that Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt characterized the new effort as a "mobile version" of Obama's 2008 online "fight the smears" effort, which attempted to mute criticisms about his candidacy.

'Fight the Smears' 2.0

About that déjà vu: In June 2008, Obama launched a website called "Fight the Smears" to stop "ideologues" from "spreading a 'pack of lies' about Barack." As WND reported, the site disappeared in July 2009.

"Whenever challenged with these lies we will aggressively push back with the truth and help our supporters debunk the false rumors floating around the Internet," Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor told the New York Times.

Some of the "smears" they intended to smack down included assertions that "Obama's campaign was funded by foreigners," "Obama sought endorsement from the (socialist) New Party," "Obama has connections to Bill Ayers" and "Obama is a Muslim."

The website reserved a special section for its counter-attack on Corsi's 2008 New York Times No. 1 bestseller, "The Obama Nation," featuring a 40-page rebuttal.

However, many of the so-called "smears" of 2008 have turned out to be widely recognized as factual. Moreover, many charges made against Corsi by the Obama campaign were themselves fabricated. For instance, not only did Corsi not state in "The Obama Nation" that the president is a secret Muslim, he said the opposite. In advice to John McCain's campaign, Corsi offered that it would be unwise to make that claim, because one can't "read another person's soul."

Obama's father was a convert to Islam and his stepfather was a Muslim. During the 2008 presidential campaign, the Associated Press published an image of a document that showed Obama's religion as "Islam" and his citizenship "Indonesian" when he lived in the Muslim-majority nation with his mother and stepfather, Lolo Soetoro.


Indonesian school registration for "Barry Soetoro" (AP photo)
Corsi also endured a fierce backlash to his previous No. 1 New York Times bestseller, co-authored with John O'Neill, "Unfit for Command," which charged that Democratic Sen. John Kerry fabricated his image as a Vietnam war hero. The book also recounted his radical anti-war effort that followed his deployment. Many political analysts believe "Unfit for Command" and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign that accompanied it was a decisive factor in Kerry's loss to President George W. Bush in 2004.

Media, including the Associated Press, typically call the book's claims "unsubstantiated" or "debunked," usually without evidence. Those who offered evidence contended the military's records supported Kerry's version of events, without mentioning the group's assertion that it was Kerry himself who wrote the "official record" in many instances, in after-action reports.

When the Kerry campaign did respond to specific claims in "Unfit for Command," it was to backtrack, such as in the case of Kerry's long-held assertion – which he later was forced to recant – that he was in Cambodia illegally Christmas Eve 1968.

Instead of addressing the Swift Boat Veterans' specific claims, the Kerry campaign threatened lawsuits against the television stations that aired the group's ads, demanded publisher Regnery pull "Unfit for Command," accused the group of being run by the Republican Party and attacked the character of co-authors O'Neill and Corsi.

But the lesson the Kerry campaign's ineffectual response to the devastating Swift Boat campaign was this: When Corsi writes a book, counter-attack swiftly and with all barrels. That was the strategy followed by the Obama campaign in 2008 with "The Obama Nation," and again now with "Where's the Birth Certificate?"

Of course, sometimes publicity – even bad publicity – is a good thing.

"Obama's campaign skyrocketed Corsi to immediate and certain fame," wrote commentator Judi McLeod at Canada Free Press.

"Marxists liking to mock their enemies is no guarantee folks will buy Obama's silly coffee mugs," she wrote. "There are too many out there worried they won't be able to come up with the scratch for the coffee to pour into them."

"Meanwhile, the big question 'Where's the Birth Certificate?" just got replaced with 'Why would the president of the USA publicly mock the man who asked?' on a coffee mug?"

At the Chicago Sun-Times, Lynn Sweet wrote, "If the 'birthers' will never believe Obama was born in the U.S., the Obama re-election campaign figures it may as well make some money off of them."

Half of Americans still doubt Obama's birth story

On April 27, with great fanfare, Obama finally released his "birth certificate" after years of stonewalling, spending a fortune on attorneys to block its release and defend against dozens of lawsuits brought by citizens wanting to see it, claiming he had already released it and ridiculing everybody who said he had not released it.

Yet a stunning Gallup Poll taken more than a week later (May 5-8) shows more than half of all Americans remain unconvinced Obama was born in the U.S.

Perhaps that's because, while the establishment press continues to ridicule "birthers" as conspiracy nuts, the White House's April 27 document release has generated vexing new questions and outright contradictions regarding the president's "birth certificate."

For instance, two weeks before Obama finally released his "long-form birth certificate," Hawaii's former Health Department chief Chiyome Fukino – the one official who claimed to have examined Obama's original birth document under lock and key in Hawaii – was interviewed by NBC News' national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who reported that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certificate and that it was "half typed and half handwritten."

However, the document released by the White House was entirely typed. Only the signatures and two dates at the very bottom were "handwritten." What Fukino described is apparently a different document from what Obama released to the public.

Since the document's late-April release, a flood of expert analyses, some by Obama voters, has cast serious doubt on the legitimacy of the president's belatedly produced "birth certificate."

Moreover, despite the book's controversial title, discussion of the "birth certificate" is actually only a small component of the book's argument regarding Obama's eligibility for the presidency.

Among topics dealt with in "Where's the Birth Certificate?":

• The mainstream media feverishly investigated the presidential eligibility story – that is, when it focused on Obama's Republican opponent, John McCain.

• Obama was born a dual citizen of the United Kingdom and the United States, a circumstance the Constitution’s framers considered an iron-clad roadblock to the presidency. The book documents the clear, original intent of the Constitution's founders, which was that no one with dual loyalties would ever be president and commander in chief.

• As a boy, Obama was officially registered in school as a Muslim and Indonesian citizen, another barrier to U.S. natural-born citizenship.

• The press and blogosphere widely reported Obama was born at Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu – before deciding he was born across town at Kapi’olani Women’s and Children’s Hospital. To this day, Kapi'olani is bizarrely secretive about Obama's alleged birth there.

• The Congressional Research Service, a public policy arm of Congress, officially admits no one in the government ever vetted Obama’s constitutional eligibility.

• In preparation for the 2012 election, more than a dozen states are considering legislation to force all presidential candidates to prove they are constitutionally qualified before they can be placed on that state’s ballot

• Going far beyond the issue of birth certificates, Corsi not only documents inconsistencies, blackouts and outright fabrications in Obama's life narrative that have generated widespread doubts, but lays out a compelling body of evidence that Obama is not a natural-born citizen as is required of all presidents by Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution.

One of the biggest disputes that remains unaddressed is why Barack Obama, who lived in Hawaii as a teen, has a Social Security number that indicates he had a Connecticut address.

The controversy over Obama's Social Security number traces back to a WND story May 11, 2010, when it was reported that two private investigators working independently were asking why Obama was using a number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.

The records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, when Obama was between 16 and 18 years old and living in Hawaii.

The Social Security website confirms that the first three digits in Obama's Social Security number are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.

Since 1973, Social Security numbers have been issued by one central office, and the first three digits of a person's Social Security number have been determined by the Zip code of the mailing address on the application.

If you would like to sound off on this issue, participate in today's WND Poll.



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[FarRightLooney]

I wanted to believe the story. I thought Obama was probably born in HI - more so a couple of years ago than now, he has raised too much doubt by not releasing the info when it first became an issue. My issue with his ineligibility is his being born a dual citizen. The only reason to see the true birth details was to insure Obama Sr. was indeed listed as babydaddy.

I was eager to see the long form when I heard it was released. From what I was hearing it confirmed Obama Sr, thus his ineligibility. I rushed to my computer to pull it up and could not believe what I found - just another obviously photoshopped image. I was angry that this a$$hole would do this. Why not just a clean long form with all the proper signatures and seals?

Then came the accusations. The layers. Tried it myself from the file put up by the WH. Yep, those layers are there. I still don't understand what is leaving the white ghosts on the background layer of the green security paper, but image on the WH site is not a scan of a real live document in my very amateur opinion.

So, so far I have seen two flawed documents presented by Obama as his proof of birth. I have also seen one Kenyan birth certificate that I have not seen proven to be fake, although it could be. Right now the ONLY thing I am certain of is that Obama was born... somewhere, to someone.

Some people may be more naive and willing to accept anything that liar wants to present and will go to great lengths to protect and defend him. I am not one of them.

[Soul Crusher]

Some people may be more naive and willing to accept anything that liar wants to present and will go to great lengths to protect and defend him. I am not one of them.


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1.  Energy
2.  Economy
3.  Jobs
4.  Foregin Policy
5.  Labor
6.  Taxes
7.  Transparency


etc etc etc. 


Idiots, dupes, shills, ands brain dead lemmings who suck cock for obama like kc, mal, straw, benny, blacken, andre, et al  will defend anything from this admn. 

[FarRightLooney]

Obama's Social Security Number Tied To An Alias Harrison J Bounel - 5/18/11

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Uploaded by BirtherReportDotCom on May 19, 2011
LINKS: The Plot Thickens: Debt Collector; Obama's Social Security number reserved for Connecticut applicants also tied to an alias Harrison J Bounel. The debt collector also claims Obama has used two other Social Security numbers in Illinois. This interview covers several issues ranging from O's SS# to his property tax filings in Chicago to 50+ different addresses tied to Obama and Michelle across the country. The interview aired on TruNews Radio 5/18/2011. - http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/plot-thickens-debt-collec... -

http://www.ObamaReleaseYourRecords.com -

http://www.BirtherReport.com

[kcballer]

Okay now mods can we agree this is a done deal?  Trump is no longer running he got smoked by this issue, the BC was released and no credible person says otherwise. 

It's a CT in every sense and not politically important anymore.  The 'leader' is done in politics. 

Please move to CT board.   

[Soul Crusher]

Considering obama is selling BC T Shirts and Mugs now for campaign cash - this is not a ct at all and a political issue.   

[kcballer]

Considering obama is selling BC T Shirts and Mugs now for campaign cash - this is not a ct at all and a political issue.   

Uh no it's not.  It's a CT.  It was released and hawaii confirms it's legit.  The issue is done.  Mods move.

[FarRightLooney]

Other than a letter supposedly from HI posted by the oh-so-honest administration on the WH website, when have you heard ANYTHING from a Hawaiian official that they issued any document concerning The One's birth? Onaka's office will NOT communicate with any news outlet to confirm he directed his signature stamp to be placed, or placed it himself, on any Obama document. No one from HI is talking.

[240 is Back]

Considering obama is selling BC T Shirts and Mugs now for campaign cash - this is not a ct at all and a political issue.   

so if any politician is profiting from 911 CTs - we can move those threads up here? 

[Dos Equis]

Other than a letter supposedly from HI posted by the oh-so-honest administration on the WH website, when have you heard ANYTHING from a Hawaiian official that they issued any document concerning The One's birth? Onaka's office will NOT communicate with any news outlet to confirm he directed his signature stamp to be placed, or placed it himself, on any Obama document. No one from HI is talking.

The former (Republican) director of the State Department of Health said she personally reviewed the birth records and said they are legitimate. 

[FarRightLooney]

The former (Republican) director of the State Department of Health said she personally reviewed the birth records and said they are legitimate. 

Yes, she reviewed the birth records - before the long form was released. We do not know, nor has she made any statement since the release of the long form stating that it correctly reflects the information she viewed in the records on file.

[OzmO]

Yes, she reviewed the birth records - before the long form was released. We do not know, nor has she made any statement since the release of the long form stating that it correctly reflects the information she viewed in the records on file.

Just a question.  If she does, would the issue be dead then in your mind?

[FarRightLooney]

Just a question.  If she does, would the issue be dead then in your mind?

After posting that piece of sh!t on the WH website? As long as it took it should have been perfect. He obviously had assistance in preparing/obtaining that piece of sh!t and since we don't know where that assistance came from... EVERYONE in HI is suspect.

When independent forensic investigators from both sides of the aisle are simultaneously allowed access to both state and hospital original files... we'll see if I'm willing to accept anything. IF it can be documented that he was in deed born in HI to an American mother and a British father...

Then we can proceed to removing the usurper from office since he would be ineligible as a dual citizen at birth.

[OzmO]

So it doesn't really matter what she says then and you are of the opinion many state officials in Hawaii are part of this conspiracy to hide the birth place of Obama?

[Dos Equis]

After posting that piece of sh!t on the WH website? As long as it took it should have been perfect. He obviously had assistance in preparing/obtaining that piece of sh!t and since we don't know where that assistance came from... EVERYONE in HI is suspect.

When independent forensic investigators from both sides of the aisle are simultaneously allowed access to both state and hospital original files... we'll see if I'm willing to accept anything. IF it can be documented that he was in deed born in HI to an American mother and a British father...

Then we can proceed to removing the usurper from office since he would be ineligible as a dual citizen at birth.

We'll never see independent forensic investigators examine the original birth records.  I don't think people really care, especially since birthers had all sorts of nutty theories (like the Kenyan birth, false affidavits, etc.).  If they would have focused on the dual citizen issue from the beginning, it would have a much stronger "movement."