Drugs vs Genetics

[FREAKgeek]

I got a question for the board.

Do you think the only thing holding you back from becoming pro status is drugs and commitment?

ie, genetics secondary?

[SF1900]

Neither are secondary. They are both equally integral when creating an IFBB Pro athlete!

[FREAKgeek]

The reason I say, is, some people in here think they can just inject and lift to their way to any size they want.

[falco]

The reason I say, is, some people in here think they can just inject and lift to their way to any size they want.

Those people usually sell the stuff.

[ESFitness]

Neither are secondary. They are both equally integral when creating an IFBB Pro athlete!

Nothing you say regarding drugs or bodybuilding is relevant you fucking obese wannabe. LoL @ your "bulking"

[SuperTed]

I have shit BB genetics but even if I had the best, I still wouldn't be willing to take the amount of drugs required to turn pro.

[heenok]

Put me on all the drugs in world i would probably not win a regional show. Decent build sure, actual competitive physique hell no.
Genetics is 80% of the equation at the very least. Most guy doing cycles in gyms dont even look like they juice let alone train.

[SF1900]

Nothing you say regarding drugs or bodybuilding is relevant you fucking obese wannabe. LoL @ your "bulking"

tl;dr

[illuminati]

Bone structure -joint size - muscle shape / origins & insertions - response to training - response to food - response to pharmaceuticals - tolerance to training & pharmaceuticals

Just some of the requirements.

As some one stated everyone can get bigger & stronger to some degree
As far as being Top Pro Different thing altogether   

[NotMrAverage]

Another type of "genetics" is actually response to drugs. Dorian Yates is a perfect example.

[Cableguy]

I've been training since I was 15. After a few years, I knew I didn't have the genetics to be a competitive bodybuilder. I built a decent physique compared to the average populace walking around, but definitely not on the level to be a successful competitor. One of the main reasons I never did gear.

I'm small boned and not built for strength. My legs are the only body part that grew easily. Pushing too hard over the years is probably the main reason my rotators are fucked up. So yes, I'm convinced genetics are the main factor.

[rangerwil]

If it was just drugs and drive, there would be THOUSANDS of mass monsters walking around.

[Griffith]

Another type of "genetics" is actually response to drugs. Dorian Yates is a perfect example.

That's probably the main type of 'genetics' in bodybuilding.

It's all drugs.

[illuminati]

That's probably the main type of 'genetics' in bodybuilding.

It's all drugs.

Not For reeves & grimek & the like
All natural.

[ratherbebig]

if you looked like this when you were lee priest age, by all means, go for a pro card.

if not, keep on posting on getbig.

[NotMrAverage]

I've been training since I was 15. After a few years, I knew I didn't have the genetics to be a competitive bodybuilder. I built a decent physique compared to the average populace walking around, but definitely not on the level to be a successful competitor. One of the main reasons I never did gear.

I'm small boned and not built for strength. My legs are the only body part that grew easily. Pushing too hard over the years is probably the main reason my rotators are fucked up. So yes, I'm convinced genetics are the main factor.

Cool you built a great body without gear. But genetics is not all about muscle insertions. How you respond to gear is very induvidual and definitly very important. Never heard anyone except van bilderass discuss this fact really.

[Pet shop boys]

I have shit BB genetics but even if I had the best, I still wouldn't be willing to take the amount of drugs required to turn pro.

This is exactly my point ...

Levrone and Wheeler are the best example in terms of Great genetics, they both landed the second spot at their Mr.O debut ....

yet the amount of steroids/diuretics they had to run constantly to get there was a deal breaker when I wanted to take the whole thing seriously .



WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[NotMrAverage]

That's probably the main type of 'genetics' in bodybuilding.

It's all drugs.

Sometimes I wonder why even analyize this thing...

But lets be positive now 

[illuminati]

This is exactly my point ...

Levrone and Wheeler are the best example in terms of Great genetics, they both landed the second spot at their Mr.O debut ....

yet the amount of steroids/diuretics they had to run constantly to get there was a deal breaker when I wanted to take the whole thing seriously .

There are many different sports that are dangerous for one reason or another
yet many participate in them -- Its down to individual choice
Some think the Risks are worth taking some don't.
Some end up badly injured or dead others are fine.

Most things in life are a gamble one way or another.
No guarantees other than at some point we are all going to Die.

[Parker]

if you looked like this when you were lee priest age, by all means, go for a pro card.

if not, keep on posting on getbig.

Lee looks better there than he did when turned pro.

[Bevo]

Bone structure -joint size - muscle shape / origins & insertions - response to training - response to food - response to pharmaceuticals - tolerance to training & pharmaceuticals

Just some of the requirements.

As some one stated everyone can get bigger & stronger to some degree
As far as being Top Pro Different thing altogether   

Even if you have all that like a flex wheeler he still couldn’t beat Dorian

And then you got dan hill....

[Bevo]

if you looked like this when you were lee priest age, by all means, go for a pro card.

if not, keep on posting on getbig.

Narrow as fuck

[TheShape.]

I believe I have the genetics for it, even the tolerance for toxicity of the drugs..but I'll never choose the path of the thong.

[dj181]

the anabolic matrix ie. gear, gh, slin, igf (according to 15) and epo (according to coach trev) are required to become a true mass monster

[BEEFYHEAVYWEIGHT]

the anabolic matrix ie. gear, gh, slin, igf (according to 15) and epo (according to coach trev) are required to become a true mass monster

Tell that to Sergio Oliva. Too bad he is dead.